No, you're right. Put him in prision that's my solution too. How could I have been so naive to not consider that after a few years in prision a fine young productive young man will emerge and partake in the general betterment of society.
Great idea. In a year there will be one more 19 year old kid with more debt that he can handle and a chip on his shoulder. Now he's got nothing to lose. Great idea.
Thanks for posting my comment out of context. I suppose you think the right punishment is to put him in prison and let child molestors gang bang him in the shower as he reaches for the soap? He's a young kid, he has a lot to learn, and he's not going to learn it in prision.
Yes he should be punished. How? I have no idea. I was asking for ideas and all I get is this pedantic sarcasm.
If I packaged shugar in a gasoline can and you put it in your tank, is the car maker at fault?
I wouldn't expect the car to withstand the vandalism that you are talking about, however if you brushed up against it, I would expect that it would be durable enough to keep working.
If I reccomend that you check the tires once a week and you ignore that suggestion, am I at fault for your blowout?
If you refse to clean your windows and you get into a collision because of reduced visibility, can the glass be considered insecure or not robust enough for heavy driving?
I said nothing about lack of normal preventative maintenance leading to a problem with the car.
I suppose the use of anology is the wrong approach for describing something to you. Perhaps you pass sixth grade english and then re-read my previous comment. You won't get a passing grade on the ACT with reading comprehension skills like that.
So what do we do with this stupid kid? In an age when dorking around on your computer can cause millions of dollars in lost revenue (albiet, you probably know if you're about to release a worm), these things are going to happen more and more often.
1) Does this kid need to learn his lession in jail? No, This kid is young. He's stupid. I'm sure he didn't do this realizing that he'd be headed to jail in a few months (if proven guilty). But what do you do with someone who's broken the law like this? Send him to Microsoft to learn how to fix bugs and become a programmer? Take him to the programmer who was responsible for the bug and tell them that this 18 year old kid made him look like a dumbass? Who knows?
2) Does Microsoft need to fix their insecurities? This is as much MS's fault as it is anyone elses. I mean, if I bought a car (I hate to bring the whole car analogy thing up again) and someone came along and leaned up on it wrong and it stopped working. I'd be pissed at the manufacturer, not so much the leaner (who is laying on the ground with a bloody nose by now).
Good job, I'm glad you are making money. Your initiative is admirable.
I hope you are planning on going to college, you can continue to run your business while you are in school and the fact that you ran a successful service while going through college will look great to potantial employers, or be excellent experience when you start your business after school. I can't stress the importiance of college enough. And I admire your non-lazyness over the summer when your classmates are watching reality TV!
I would mod this as "insightful" if I could. I've neglected the content part of the equation. Thanks!
So a yahoo blog with good content is surly better than a self built blog with no/bad content.
The only problem with the yahoo stuff is that you won't (probably) find a person's blog by looking for it on google (or any other search engine besides yahoo). that's okay for the most part, but in an age when everyone uses google, you blog about something and google users will see it.
There's something about a blog that is entirely created and maintained by the blogger. I mean, would any of us really read wil wheaton's site if he just kept it at yahoo?
Nothing against yahoo or anything. It's great for people who don't have the resources or knowledge to maintain such a thing, but I doubt I'll be perusing the blogs on yahoo any time soon. Would you?
Yea, I'm sure you're right. One company I worked for paid a marketing company like 50K to come up with the term:
"iLink"
Which if course is what Sony calls firewire. It's even trademarked I believe. Well, our execs went nuts, they loved it and are still living in blissful ignorance.
How difficult can it be to write one of these things? You don't even have to be a hacker at all. all you do is.
1) Wait for a MS critical update to come out. 2) Write code to take advantage of the documented flaw. (take a month or two to write it, what the heck) 3) release.
Then all the yay-hoos that didn't upgrade their systems (when their computers probably told them to) get borked. if people would only apply security patches... ahh well...
So let me submit one of my own. To generate a truly random number (in only 7 simple steps)...
1) Reach your finger (pick which finger at random) all up in your nose and pull out a booger.
2) Document the degree of slimyness on a scale of 1 to 10.
3) Measure the depth and circumferance.
4) Document the color of the booger.
5) Plug that into an equation that I will be providing via an application I have written in Powerbuilder (so nobody but you will be likely to be using it)
6) Use your truly random number.
7) Remember to wipe booger on your pants so no one else will steal your key!
I think it's all about what you are used too. I use KDE almost exclusivly on my development box. I found it very very difficult to do the things i wanted to in Win XP when I tried it a few weeks ago in a pinch. I use the heck out of the multiple desktop features, and I use Konsole with tabs all the time. I can find no decent alternatives in Windows.
That's not to say Windows is a bad development environment. People use it all the time for that, but it's not what I am used to and prefer.
So what I'm trying to say is that it is all about what desktop works for you. Some people use Windows, some use KDE, some use Gnome, and I know a lot that still use fvwm and windowmaker. I don't see having multiple desktop alternatives as a bad thing at all, but I rather prefer the ability to choose.
I totally agree. Using the tech prototyped in the Segway for something that can actually provide a meaningful use rather than a symbol of vanity and dorkyness (IMHO).
My faith has been partially restored. now let's see if we can get that price down so people can buy it...
The article's headline (both on/. and ZDnet so no blame to/.) says "Windows Crashes", which implies that the OS actually crashes. However the quote in the article says "Crashes in Windows" which implies that some application running under Windows crashes, not necessarily the OS itself.
Which is it? I am confused. The latter isn't the fault of MS. But no application failing should be able to crash Windows, it's the OS's job to make sure it can handle failing programs.
Sure, the automatic notification is great, but that automatic install feature starts to look really really bad two hours after all x-hundred of your corporate machines have been turned into porn spammers by a malicious individual/group, and M$ shuts down the auto-update server
That's why I turned the auto-install "feature" off. I like to be informed when something is going to happen.
But, then, we all know how secure M$ is--we don't have to worry about thier machines being cracked/infected!
This already did happen once if I recall correctly!
That playing a came of keeping a car on a road might cause you're car to go off the road.
No, you're right. Put him in prision that's my solution too. How could I have been so naive to not consider that after a few years in prision a fine young productive young man will emerge and partake in the general betterment of society.
Fantastic work. You are an inspiration!
TRoy
Is it? It has something to do with the kid as well. I suppose you think MS should not be compelled to write safer software? *yawn*
Great idea. In a year there will be one more 19 year old kid with more debt that he can handle and a chip on his shoulder. Now he's got nothing to lose. Great idea.
Thanks for posting my comment out of context. I suppose you think the right punishment is to put him in prison and let child molestors gang bang him in the shower as he reaches for the soap? He's a young kid, he has a lot to learn, and he's not going to learn it in prision.
Yes he should be punished. How? I have no idea. I was asking for ideas and all I get is this pedantic sarcasm.
If I packaged shugar in a gasoline can and you put it in your tank, is the car maker at fault?
I wouldn't expect the car to withstand the vandalism that you are talking about, however if you brushed up against it, I would expect that it would be durable enough to keep working.
If I reccomend that you check the tires once a week and you ignore that suggestion, am I at fault for your blowout?
If you refse to clean your windows and you get into a collision because of reduced visibility, can the glass be considered insecure or not robust enough for heavy driving?
I said nothing about lack of normal preventative maintenance leading to a problem with the car.
I suppose the use of anology is the wrong approach for describing something to you. Perhaps you pass sixth grade english and then re-read my previous comment. You won't get a passing grade on the ACT with reading comprehension skills like that.
Evidently you do advocate some punishment for the 'leaner/virus writer'.
:-)
ahh, not really. I advocate some masculine humor in postings though
So what do we do with this stupid kid? In an age when dorking around on your computer can cause millions of dollars in lost revenue (albiet, you probably know if you're about to release a worm), these things are going to happen more and more often.
1) Does this kid need to learn his lession in jail?
No, This kid is young. He's stupid. I'm sure he didn't do this realizing that he'd be headed to jail in a few months (if proven guilty). But what do you do with someone who's broken the law like this? Send him to Microsoft to learn how to fix bugs and become a programmer? Take him to the programmer who was responsible for the bug and tell them that this 18 year old kid made him look like a dumbass? Who knows?
2) Does Microsoft need to fix their insecurities?
This is as much MS's fault as it is anyone elses. I mean, if I bought a car (I hate to bring the whole car analogy thing up again) and someone came along and leaned up on it wrong and it stopped working. I'd be pissed at the manufacturer, not so much the leaner (who is laying on the ground with a bloody nose by now).
Just some thoughts.
T.
Hey!
Good job, I'm glad you are making money. Your initiative is admirable.
I hope you are planning on going to college, you can continue to run your business while you are in school and the fact that you ran a successful service while going through college will look great to potantial employers, or be excellent experience when you start your business after school. I can't stress the importiance of college enough. And I admire your non-lazyness over the summer when your classmates are watching reality TV!
Install redhat. You pretty much get that bluecurve thing by default. To get KDE installed instead, you have to do some extra work durring the install.
Isn't this what the guy is asking for?
Troy.
I would mod this as "insightful" if I could. I've neglected the content part of the equation. Thanks!
So a yahoo blog with good content is surly better than a self built blog with no/bad content.
The only problem with the yahoo stuff is that you won't (probably) find a person's blog by looking for it on google (or any other search engine besides yahoo). that's okay for the most part, but in an age when everyone uses google, you blog about something and google users will see it.
I would be willing to bet that more people outside of /. would read it then.
Perhaps that's true. We'll find out soon enough I guess. It should be interesting.
T.
There's something about a blog that is entirely created and maintained by the blogger. I mean, would any of us really read wil wheaton's site if he just kept it at yahoo?
Nothing against yahoo or anything. It's great for people who don't have the resources or knowledge to maintain such a thing, but I doubt I'll be perusing the blogs on yahoo any time soon. Would you?
t.
I don't see the problem. If a movie sucks, people will tell other people. If a movie is good, people will tell other people.
That's why I didn't see the hulk and charlies angels and why I did go see Pirates and Bend it like Beckham.
Oh, and I have never been saved from seeing a bad movie by a friend who texted me as I was heading to the theater...
has anyone?
Nope. Apparently the iLink fiasco we went through is not uncommon :)
do you think that the music/movie industry will ever be able to stop the digital piracy of their content?
If so, how? If not then how will they survive as online trading becomes more prolific.
Troy.
Yea, I'm sure you're right. One company I worked for paid a marketing company like 50K to come up with the term:
"iLink"
Which if course is what Sony calls firewire. It's even trademarked I believe. Well, our execs went nuts, they loved it and are still living in blissful ignorance.
T.
they probably actually paid a marketing company a million bucks to come up with that lame-ass name!
Hell, I would have thought one up for 50 bucks. here's a freebie:
"Shaznasta"
T.
How difficult can it be to write one of these things? You don't even have to be a hacker at all. all you do is.
1) Wait for a MS critical update to come out.
2) Write code to take advantage of the documented flaw. (take a month or two to write it, what the heck)
3) release.
Then all the yay-hoos that didn't upgrade their systems (when their computers probably told them to) get borked. if people would only apply security patches... ahh well...
T.
So let me submit one of my own. To generate a truly random number (in only 7 simple steps)...
1) Reach your finger (pick which finger at random) all up in your nose and pull out a booger.
2) Document the degree of slimyness on a scale of 1 to 10.
3) Measure the depth and circumferance.
4) Document the color of the booger.
5) Plug that into an equation that I will be providing via an application I have written in Powerbuilder (so nobody but you will be likely to be using it)
6) Use your truly random number.
7) Remember to wipe booger on your pants so no one else will steal your key!
T.
I think it's all about what you are used too. I use KDE almost exclusivly on my development box. I found it very very difficult to do the things i wanted to in Win XP when I tried it a few weeks ago in a pinch. I use the heck out of the multiple desktop features, and I use Konsole with tabs all the time. I can find no decent alternatives in Windows.
That's not to say Windows is a bad development environment. People use it all the time for that, but it's not what I am used to and prefer.
So what I'm trying to say is that it is all about what desktop works for you. Some people use Windows, some use KDE, some use Gnome, and I know a lot that still use fvwm and windowmaker. I don't see having multiple desktop alternatives as a bad thing at all, but I rather prefer the ability to choose.
I totally agree. Using the tech prototyped in the Segway for something that can actually provide a meaningful use rather than a symbol of vanity and dorkyness (IMHO).
My faith has been partially restored. now let's see if we can get that price down so people can buy it...
The article's headline (both on /. and ZDnet so no blame to /.) says "Windows Crashes", which implies that the OS actually crashes. However the quote in the article says "Crashes in Windows" which implies that some application running under Windows crashes, not necessarily the OS itself.
Which is it? I am confused. The latter isn't the fault of MS. But no application failing should be able to crash Windows, it's the OS's job to make sure it can handle failing programs.
TROY
Sure, the automatic notification is great, but that automatic install feature starts to look really really bad two hours after all x-hundred of your corporate machines have been turned into porn spammers by a malicious individual/group, and M$ shuts down the auto-update server
That's why I turned the auto-install "feature" off. I like to be informed when something is going to happen.
But, then, we all know how secure M$ is--we don't have to worry about thier machines being cracked/infected!
This already did happen once if I recall correctly!
Thanks!
Troy