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Palm Reveals New Name
dmehus writes "Milpitas, Calif. based Palm Inc. announced Sunday afternoon the new name and moniker for its handheld hardware business. After almost two years in the planning and focus group stages, the company's Board of Directors and executives decided on PalmOne. PalmOne's ticker symbol will change from the current PALM to PLMO. Sister company PalmSource, which will be the operating system business, takes ticker symbol PSRC. According this report by CNET News.com's Ina Fried, the two companies will be publicly traded, but they will also be controlled by a new holding company. In addition, the Spring 2004 line of handhelds will adopt the PalmOne moniker. Devices that run the Palm OS can continue to say "Palm powered." The new ticker symbols and corporate name changes will take affect some time in late September or early October, once the Palm buyout of rival HandSpring is complete."
They didn't even make it fully buzzword compliant. There's no '.' in there or 'e' anywhere... What about 'flex' or 'i'?
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Geez, two years to decide to change your name from Palm to PalmOne. I am soooo in the wrong business.
Is BeOS still under the wings of Palm? Why don't they use the thing, or simply open the source?
With the buyout, will I still be able to get a Visor?
You can't legislate goodness. Let each to his own destiny, by will of his freely made choices.
Stage One of Going Down the Toilet: Split yourself into groups of N, and give each sub-company a new name. That way no one knows who the hell they are dealing with.
Frequently employed when a company's market share or mind share begins to slip, in an irrational attempt to reverse said slipping.
"Sig free in '03!"
Or is the name "PalmOne" almost an invitation to steal the thing?
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In the graphical form of the name (which you can view on their web site) they :-)
have chosen to use leetspeak in the form pa1mOne which seems to me to be a horrible mistake (it's also
worth knowing that palmOne did not buy the sites pa1mOne.com and pa1m0ne.com: pa1mone.com seems to have be
purchased by an employee of Palm just yesterday and does not take you to palmone.com
The real mistake though is that should we be referring to the company is palmOne or pa1mOne? It's just
confusing for no reason. I mean you don't see Microsoft changing its name to M1cro$0ft just to look cool.
John.
they probably actually paid a marketing company a million bucks to come up with that lame-ass name!
Hell, I would have thought one up for 50 bucks. here's a freebie:
"Shaznasta"
T.
I am more and more convinced that marketers live in a different dimension from the rest of us. One day it is all about "brand name" and talk about it worth in millions, the next day, it is just any old hat. /annoyed
Can I now use Palm myself? It is obviously not worth anything to Palm themself...
PHB types throwing away the natural sexy name "Palm" and instead using "PalmOne"...
GOD and it took them two freakin years ?????
Insert mandatory Dilbert joke below my sig.
but I preferred it when they were called Palm Pilots.
They spent two years "in the planning and focus group stages" and all they could come up with was to change from "Palm" to "PalmOne"?
I'm not saying I can come up with anything better right now but give me two years and I'll bet I can.
Some of what I say is fact, some is conjecture, the rest I'm just blowing out my ass...you guess.
Perhaps they should have changed the name a bit more - ever since Brian Blessed bellowed "Palm Pilot ... sounds like a wanking device" on a TV out-takes show, I've felt Palm wasn't such a good name for a company.
there IS an "e" at the end of "one". You know, they have an e-backend in their nu.Name.
Free as in mason.
I had a palm, and when I got rid of it I tried to get off all the palm mailing lists. I still got spam after spam no matter how many times I logged in to change my profile "if I no longer wanted the e-mails."
:)
I guess that too many people have blocked *.palm.com so they need something new to spam from.
No...I'm not bitter
...it worked so well for Real. I mean, realOne is just such brilliant, usefull software. Hopefully they don't add the bloat, that what makes them nicer the windows mobile devices (for business purposes). Because I swear to god if my palm starts beeping and buzzing, and I pull the thing out of my pocket so it can tell me "whats cool for August" I'll smash the thing to little pieces.
PalmOne?
Does this mean they're going to take Handspring's OS, change a few strings, add some placeboware, call it a revolutionary new product, and go headfirst into IPO?
Or maybe i'm confusing them with someone else...
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I don't understand why companies INSIST on doing this? Is this some sort of corporate fear that their brand name is watered-down by ubiquity?
It seems that companies who are so successful that their name BECOMES the product would be happy.
I watched this happen to Digiboard. They were THE standard product in their line but then went & changed their name to Digi International. D'oh.
-Styopa
pa1mOne?! Are you kidding me?
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After the famous musician who was formerly known as Prince, and who was retagged "his formerliness" by a well-known music magazine...
The Company Formerly Known as Palm has also decided upon an unpronouncable glyph as their name. But it makes much sense, since in any case they will soon become a division of Sony and their name will be recast in Hirigana.
ParmOS, I saruta you!
Ceci n'est pas une signature
PHB::According to Johnson's report I see we have market share and brand name recognition. What's our plan?
JOHNSON::Do nothing sir.
PHB::Do nothing? You idiot Johnson YOU'RE FIRED! Cravenstone what do you have?
CRAVENSTONE::Let's change our name sir.
PHB::Excel-lent....
This
Why do Microsoft competitors keep using the word ONE?
Netscape ONE
Sun ONE
PalmOne
Is this synergy, coincidence, or lame marketing?
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Does anyone else think this sounds somewhat... well... pr0n-like?
Chris
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Would it not have been wiser to keep the name "Palm"? They don't want any of the two spin-off's to benefit of the name. But doesn't the PalmSource company benefit from the sales that are generated by "PalmOne"? (Note that this assumtions hold true to a certain level the other way around, but not that strong.)
Therefor, i find it a bit silly. The split was made by the board that will control both company's (they did not sell one division as far as I know) and the new controlling company. The controlling company name is irrelevant, as no-one outside the Palm-offices and the financial world will know, or needs to know it.
It would be better to keep the name for the hardware division. They had a strong name, and I guess that they did a bad move. And two years to come up with "PalmOne"? For crying out loud...
As a sidenote, as a belgian, I guess that I'm not worried, as long as the name change does not influence the taste of a glass Palm beer.
Is this the final, last gasp of the Beos team that went to palm? By spinning the Palmsoft into their own company, they must fend for themselves as an independent profit center. It also means that others can develop their own OS for plams, and market them to palm-clones, and potentially to Pa1mOne themselves.
Interestingly, the remnants of Be have more than doubled in the past quarter; see the chart here
OK...
I can do this. I am, after all,
a superhero!
Are you kidding me? Way, way over a million bucks I'm sure. 2 years of searching? Hell my university spent 1.5 million for a month of searching to change their color from red to...dark red. Many many millions were spent on making this name longer, and I hope they realize people will still refer to them as Palm. PalmOne reminds me of a bank.
Well, there's goes my bet on what the new Handspring, Palm merged company would be called:
"PalmSprings" of course!
Sure, you laugh now, but their new office digs woulda been SWEET.
Two years to come up with that!?
What's the difference? Do they think people are going to buy more of their crappy, outdated and unimaginative products because they stuck a "One" at the end of their moniker? I doubt their daydreams are going to come true:
Husband: "Edna, look here at this here Palm pee-da thingy. I should get one of those."
Wife: "I don't know Clarence, it looks like those Sony and Microsoft ones over there have more features."
Husband: "Maybe you're right. I don't want a second-rate product."
Salesman: "Actually, they just changed their name to PalmOne."
Husband: "Well shit! That settles it. Give me twenty!"
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more information from including the logo....my favorite quote
"The new name is characterized in two colors - deep red for the word 'palm' and vibrant orange for 'One,' reflecting the subbrand colors for the company's Tungsten line of solutions for mobile professionals and business and its Zire line of solutions for consumers and multimedia enthusiasts, respectively."
Come on, from Pro/Personal, III, V, Zire, Tungston, m, these guys have changed branding more often than their underwear. This is what they want to bank on?
No explanation given for the lame l->1 conversion.
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> After almost two years in the planning and
> focus group stages, the company's Board of
> Directors and executives decided on PalmOne.
I can only chime in with previous posters and express my utter, utter bafflement at this. I can't believe how some people earn their money! (I use the word 'earn' very loosely.)
When is this marketroid-driven insanity going to stop?
Sentimentality is merely the Bank Holiday of cynicism.
- Oscar Wilde
Am I the only one tempted to pronounce palmone like:
pal-MOH-nee
it's probably me, but why in heavens name change name ? What's the benefit, except for companies for MS who have som uch cash they have to find obnoxious ways to hose some (hey, there's an idea for a new poll !)
Reminds me of the company Smiths, not named 'Lays'. Thay had a brand recognition at coca-cola level and yet some execs decided to wipe it all.
I really should have paid attention during marketing classes i guess.
When will I end this grieving ? When will my future begin ?
Handspring is a hardware company, and it uses the Palm OS.
Everyone's reading PalmOne like it was pronounced Palm-WON, but it's really pronounced Pahl-MOH-nay, which clearly is designed to appeal to the modern, hip Euro-style elite. Ooh, la la.
So, now we can refer to them collectively as Palm* ?
On 2nd thought, we could already, but it makes more sense now.
All I want is a kind word, a warm bed and unlimited power.
Sun One, RealOne, PalmOne. Just you wait, there'll be FooOnes all over the NASDAQ in 6 months time.
Apple will be next with the AppleOne $SERVICE.
"Hey guys, our handhelds are doing poorly compared to the Handsprings, what should we do???" Just buy em - then you can acquire the cool hardware, repackage it and then slap a cool new name on it. new name - same crap. anyone know how I can run linux on my visor?
Hard loop..... huh?
Dynamic Designs
PalmOne's ticker symbol will change from the current PALM to PLMO.
Dibbs on the PALM stock symbol so I can unload millions of shares of my fly-by-night IPO on the uneducated masses!
I Am My Own Worst Enemy
.... and the world goes back to what they were doing. I'm glad they spent two years to change some capitalization and add 3 letters on to the end of the name.
In the infamous words of Adam Sandler: "Who were the marketing wizards that came up with that one?"
"Politicians find new names for institutions which under old names have become odious to the people."
"Costs are too low due to increasing productivity. New logos, new letterheads, new business cards for all employees More friction on the wheel of progress, yeah."
I don't understand why companies INSIST on doing this? Is this some sort of corporate fear that their brand name is watered-down by ubiquity?
Really! My favorite example...
Borland - A couple of years, ago, they changed their name to "Inprise" to sound more business-y elite, or something. This resulted in a lot of flak, so they decided to compromise by keeping the Borland name on certain products. So you had "Inprise Borland C++Builder 4 Standard". Yeah, that rolls off the tongue nicely. It was definitely worth throwing away years of respectable brand name recognition. Of course, you notice they are now Borland again.
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-- Ryan Stiles
Just when you think maybe true business suits have successfully infiltrated the technology market, something like this happens. Note to techies running coporations: There is a reason that Nike hasn't become NikeOne and Wal-Mart isn't Wal-MartOne...
PalmOne and PalmSource?
Why not just HyperGlobalMegaMart?
Did they take out a super bowl ad too?
Pardon me while I go PalmOne.
PalmNeo might have been "the one"
Some drink at the fountain of knowledge. Others just gargle.
I have the same problem. Gypsies always give me strange looks when I take a tropical plant into the caravan to have my fortune told, and I've been waiting for my hand to produce coconuts for 34 years now.
When I am king, you will be first against the wall.
I think their "inspiration" came from RealPlayer changing its name to RealOne. Hell, look at the front page of their site and you see the RealOne player on the screen of the Palm.
But honestly... WTF was wrong with the name "Palm"?
If it ain't broke, DON'T FIX IT.
It doesn't make sense.... I hate the business world.
Does it make you happy you're so strange?
I'll admit I prefer the Sony Clie line, but the Palm OS has one thing going for it that the /. crowd can appreciate: it doesn't run any version of Windows.
Oh, and it syncs with my Macs with no problem.
Oh, and it does just about anything a WinCE (or whatever it's called today) device can do. It only takes software. You need that on a non-Palm device, too.
Honestly, if I could put a color screen on my still-working Newton and shrink it to a reasonable size, I'd probably use it instead. Unfortunately it's now just a curious toy that I don't use for anything.
--Jim (me)
"Palm" was easy, simple, and only 4 freaking letters! Plus their ticker was PALM! Hello?! Going to PalmOne is longer, dumber, and not as intuitive, plus their ticker changed...
Bad idea.
OUR BRAND PROMIES IS SO WAL UNDERS2D BY DA MARK3TPLAEC TAHT DA CONCEPT OF ONE IN OUR NU NME WAS IMEDIAETLY COMPELNG11!!11!! WTF LOL ONE IS A POW3RFUL ADITION 2 TEH INSTANT BRAND R3COGNITION AND IEDNTITY OF DA PALM TEH1!!!1 WTF RED/ORANGE COMBINATION IS A BOLD D3PARTURE FROM TEH BLU3 TAHT PALM HAS USAD FOR MANY YEARS AND BUILDS ON OUR NU SUBRANDS AN3RGY ANTHUSIASM POWER AND INOVATION COM3 ACROS MUCH STRONGAR IN OUR NU COMBINATION
OUR!1!1!1!! NU NME ALSO SIGNALS A NU BGINNG AT PALM1!!1!!!! OMG WTF BUILDNG ON OUR MOMENTUM IN TEH HANDH3LD COMPUTNG SPAEC WORLDWIED AND COMPLEMANTNG IT WIT TEH AXPACTAD INT3GRATION OF DA AWARD-WINNG TR3O LIEN OF SMARTPHONES FROM HANDSPRNG WIL GIEV PALMONE TEH BROAEDST PORTFOLIO OF HANDHELD COMPUTARS AND SMARTPHON3 PRODUCTS LAD BY DA MOST AXPAREINC3D TEM IN DA INDUSTRY 11!!1 WTF LOL
(I didn't write this - I got it from a Palm message board. Still funny, though.)
When the dust settles, there will be fewer engineers, and more marketeers and obscenely overpaid CEO's at the cloven companies. Because, as we all know, it doesn't matter how good your product is, as long as you have decent market segmentation, and an CEO with a zillion share options.
If you were blocking sigs, you wouldn't have to read this.
Of course the real reason for the change of name to PalmSource is that they've discovered 80 lines or so of C code in PalmOS that matches code in the heart of the Linux kernel, no, the edges, no, the utilities, and they've decided to take a leaf out of SCO's book and sue IBM, no, Linus, no, everyone who even mentions Linux to try to prop up a dwindling market share.
Quick everyone, buy Palm shares cos they're about to shoot through the roof!
Evidently coming in close second was the name HairyPalm. Yuk Yuk Yuk
But, alas the economy is in a malaise, the war for Hearts and Minds (Registered trademark of the Bush strategy) in Iraq is turning rapildy into the kind of mess Mogadishu became (for pretty damn much the exact same reasons his papa went in there.) and peoples expectations just aren't up to the pre-2000 HYPE. We're all a bit over-dazzled and need to return to more mundane, oatmeal and beans kind of approach. Nothing too fancy, we don't trust it anyway, after WorldCon, GlobalDoubleCrossing and ENSCAM, Wall Street appreciates a company with an unimaginative name. That they took years and focus groups and probably spent millions of dollars, simply shows the right approach. At least that money isn't being thrown away in stock options to the worker-bees.
Now all they execs have left to do is pat themselves on the back for such an intelligent, careful move and give themselves big fat raises.
A feeling of having made the same mistake before: Deja Foobar
...I have decieded to rename myself GeoffreyOne.
I am very small, utmostly microscopic.
They hope to Palm One off on every one that can find.
Is this sig nificant?
mmmm,
PalmOne (Neo)
PalmSource (The Source)
Who knew The Matrix runs on under 16MB?
Darn, I thought maybe they'd go with RedPalm.
Or, because of the buyback/out/up of Handspring, call it PalmSprings. That'd be cool.
Ed R.Zahurak
You know, oblivion keeps looking better every day.
He had valid reasons for it - his label was in control of the name "Prince" and was being bitchy about it. That's why on that triple-CD set he has "slave" written on his cheek. So he changed his name so he could release music during the dispute, and after it was settled, changed it back. I don't know why he didn't just tell people that, but I figure there were legal reasons.
Palm, on the other hand, are simply dumbasses.
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How so?
The idea that calling palm two names both starting with palm will lead to people not knowing "who the hell they are dealing with" is stupid.
Who would know that PalmOne is the same as Palm? I assume it would require advanced skills like 'reading'
enhancing shareholder value by paying consultants to piss on you.
"But actually trying to use m4 as a general-purpose langage would be deeply perverse" --ESR
I'm pretty sure that for digi, it was a trademark dispute. Some other company already owned the mark, but digi didn't know that. So, they changed the name to prevent nasty things from happening.
I am so disappointed.
So all this planning has resulted in:
Way to go Palm*.
The box for my PDA has a logo of a Q with a T inside it - and I prefer it that way !!
Not content with staying with the current trend, Apple, who a few years back simplified their name Apple Computers to just Apple, has innovated once again by rebranding as appleTwo.
"I tend to think of OS X as Linux with QA and Taste", James Gosling, creator of Java
I wonder if this change in name will delay the launch of the next tungsten model [set to debut late september]?
I really hope not as I have been holding out for one....
Oh well, good luck to them!
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You would definitely be struck down by National Beverage Corp. on that one since "Shaznasta" is clearly just a feshizzle nizzling of their Shasta brand name.
PalmOne - a unisex fragrance for geeks from ClavinKlein
Why is this Flaimbate?
Why would people still use Palm when devices such as the Tandy TRS-80 Model 102 still exist and are 4 times as reliable? Palm's are made by US Robotics, a modem company.
Glad to see that the marketing group who came up with "New Coke" finally got another client.
shouldn't that be
G3offreyOne ???
$ strings FTP.EXE | grep Copyright
@(#) Copyright (c) 1983 The Regents of the University of California.
...it took them TWO YEARS to come up with "PalmOne". I mean, really....
I remember reading at the time of the aquisition that the Handspring brand will still be used to label the Palm-based Smartphone Treos - a market Palm(One) tried to enter but failed, but which Handspring has a good foothold, in both recognition and product...
...of the *One disease, I predict that the Harry Potter series will soon be renamed "hermiOne".
You see, they haven't just tacked on a "One". What they've done is cleverly considered the results of their focus groups. Palm owners commented that their friend's Palm was so good that they wanted one too.
And so the company changed it's name not to "p-ah-m wonn", but to "Pal moan", with the emphasis on the "Oh".
It's worth every penny of the pointless millions they spent on it, I guarantee you! I don't think I consider myself worthy of purchasing such a device whose creators have a such high order of intelligence. No, sir.
Make your own joke.
"Enough of this wretched, whining monkey life." -- Marcus Aurelius, _Meditations_, Book 9, 37
You're soaking in it!
I'm SO FUCKING TIRED of all this rebranding crap. Just proves that management spend more time fucking about with logos these days than innovating. If I was a Palm shareholder, I'd be fucking LIVID.
That was classic intercourse!
Hmm, it's certainly possible but I rather doubt it. Digiboard had been operating for years under that name, only changed the name after the founder JS left the company and it moved to big fancy new building in EP. Methinks it WASN'T a trademark dispute, OR it was a case of Digi incompetence and someone stole their brand name out from under them.
-Styopa
Is it just me or did Palm decide to hire Prince as their new marketing director? Next stop on the crazy train that is the company formerly known as PalmOne... "@#$*^%". I kind of like it personally.
I couldn't help but think:
Thats right kids!
It's new PDA Log, from PLMO!
What rolls down stairs
Alone or in pairs
Rolls over your neighbor's dog.
What's great for a snack
And fits on your back
It's log, log, log!
It's lo-og, lo-og,
It's big, it's heavy, it's wood.
It's lo-og, lo-og,
It's better than bad, it's good.
Everyone wants a log,
You're gonna love it, log
Come on and get your log,
Everyone needs a log...
BY PLMO!
On a marketing basis, this doesn't seem like a wise decision.
First, you already have excellent name recognition.
Second, you have to change all of your existing advertisement methods.
Third, you lose the product standard. What if Xerox became Xenix or something? We don't "Or-Something" or documents! We Xerox them.
Of course, most people have probably already said this.
I hope they kept their old trademarks. They'll probably regret this down the line.
They're taking example from Sun who is so good at branding that it virtually guarantees people understand what you're talking about.
Except instead of naming an umbrella of 100 unrelated products under the One brand, they're renaming the entire company!
Sheer genius. Let's see if Geoffrey Moore can write a book on this phenomenon.
The latter. Don't forget AmigaOne either...
You'll shake your head when you visit their site and see the logo. It's not just palmOne, but pa1mOne with the numeral 1.
How very 1337 of them.
Regards,
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All your Pa1m is belong to us!
I still call the doohickeys that the company produces "PalmPilots", even though they dropped that name years ago...
Good thing they didn't skimp and only take one year to come up with it; it might have sucked.
(w/ apologies to Scott Adams)
Seen here.
I figured PalmOne should be pronounced like the Italian name Corleone: Pal-Mo-Ne
The power of Christ compiles you!
it palmheld. but hey, if you want to mess with sony go ahead ;P
I know you are psychotic, but please make an effort.
We have a rule here in the New Orleans music scene. Numbers in your name = Bad. They all wind up sounding like an OTC drug name.
The / in
According to their new graphic, it is the l33t3r pa1mOne, which suddenly looks like palimony to me.
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A good way to justify your existense is to do stuff like change company name or split divisions. It generates a lot of work within the company in every department, your name becomes better recognized within the company (you get to make "the announcement" on a company-wide conf call), and in the meantime during all this commotion you continue to get a paycheck. Of course the reality is that company is going down the toilet.
I once worked in a company that changed its logo color from green to blue, and then spent a few months contemplating changing back to green, but decided not to.
Palm was a nice innovative company a few years back, but has now obviously succumbed to the executive incompetence plague that so many other companies in US, so unfortunately, are infected with...
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The new name is characterized in two colors - deep red for the word "palm" and vibrant orange for "One," reflecting the subbrand colors for the company's Tungsten line of solutions for mobile professionals and business and its Zire line of solutions for consumers and multimedia enthusiasts, respectively. The lower-case treatment of the company name gives the word "palm" visual emphasis.
If you visit Palm's (whoops, palmOne's) product page you'll notice that they this is actually true, Zire is orange and Tungsten is red. It's too bad they look sorta garish when juxtaposed next to each other.
Zire 21, Tungsten E, and Tungsten T3 (that might be a spring release) are all lined up for release soon! At least palmone seems to be back on track.
Palm hardware is fairly nice: compact, light, long battery life, and the applications are pretty decent as well.
But PalmOS is becoming a drag on the company--PalmOS was OK for underpowerd 68k-based handhelds, but the 175-400MHz RISC handhelds of today would be much better off running a more modern OS; none of the restrictions, flakiness, and limitations of PalmOS are justified by the hardware it runs on anymore. Neither PalmOS 5 nor PalmOS 6 look like they are going to fix the grave deficiencies in PalmOS.
One can only hope that, with this split, the Palm hardware group can look to other options in terms of software: Symbian, Linux, etc. They can even keep running the existing Palm applications, which people are used to. But the OS has to go.
You can use the phrase "they're trying to PalmOne off on us" now.
...when someone ascends to a high enough position that they CAN change a name, they DO change the name. It's a way of assuring themselves that they're actually in charge.
It's simple: if you only issue orders that have a rational reason, you can never tell whether your subordinates are obeying them because you actually hold power, or simply because the orders make sense.
On the other hand, if you issue orders that are irrational, you can tell whether or not you actually have power, but if people obey them it will hurt the company which, in the long run, could affect your career.
The only safe way to demonstrate your authority is by issuing an order that is _arbitrary_ and has no significant effect for better or for worse.
Of course, there's always a cover story about how the new name, color scheme, typography, etc. "projects a more contemporary corporate image." (In the case of a magazine, whenever a new editor takes over they always revamp the typeface and the amount of whitespace around things, and the stated reason is always "to help you find information faster.")
See Antoine de Saint Exupery's "The Little Prince"--the part where the Little Prince visits the tiny planet with the king who can command the sun to set, but only after checking an almanac to make sure that he issues the command at the right time.
"How to Do Nothing," kids activities, back in print!
I still refer to any device that runs PalmOS as a Palm Pilot. So there.
I agree 100%, to move from a ticker name like "PALM" is just idiotic, never mind the name change.
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Although in this case it was a product (the Lucent WaveLAN 802.11b card). They changed that descriptive, even cool name to "Orinoco." Sigh...
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PalmOne's ticker symbol will change from the current PALM to PLMO. Sister company PalmSource, which will be the operating system business, takes ticker symbol PSRC. According this report by CNET News.com's Ina Fried, the two companies will be publicly traded, but they will also be controlled by a new holding company.
This just sounds too damn familiar. Let's see, separate OS co., PalmSource; Holding co. controls operations, etc.
Reminds me of SCO Group, SCOSource, Canopy Group, etc.
Will they follow SCO's litigious business plan format? Let's hope not.
Warning!
A new virus is on the loose that apparently causes people to think up stupid names. You are likely infected if you have changed the name of your business recently to present a "hip new image" or if you have started a fork of a major open source product and changed its name.
If you are contemplating either of these actions at this time and wish to make sure you do not accidentally select a stupid name, please seek treatment from a state-licensed therapist to insure you are not infected with this virus.
From my own support experience, all PDA devices, from Visors to Pilots to Blackberrys to Zauruses, are all called "my Palm" or "my Palm Pilot" by the average user. While this may not be the reason for the name-shift, I am sure they are aware of the threat.
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There's something amusing about Palm forming a holding company. -- garyZ
"I can't find PALM! Have they been delisted??? OMG, WHAT HAPPENED?!?!?!"
"Here's one. Oh, wait, it says Palm One, is this some el-cheapo ripoff? Excuse me -- where are the real Palms?"
Beats me why these people go on and on about brand recognition and then throw their brand down the toilet every couple of years so they can start all over again with a new one.
Here's another one I don't understand: "Mailboxes Etc" became "UPS Store". WTF?!?
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hell LIVID is a better name. While your use of verbage might get you mod'd down, the core of your post is RIGHT ON THE MONEY. Someone got MiLlIoNs for this 'effort'. They will spend millions more re-branding signs for what benefit ?? Confusing an already fragmented market ?? This is a HUGE waste of capital and if the management of the company wasn't brain-dead corporate drones they'd be firing someone. Instead they are lining up like bobble-heads to approve it and waste company value. No wonder Palm's market share is slipping again....
errr....umm...*whooosh* *whoosh* Is this thing on ?
You are seeing pa1m0ne and thinking palm2...
Palm born again...
It took them two years to decide they wanted to add a "One" to their name? What exactly do they hope to accomplish by changing the name, anyway?
Everyone's still going to call them "Palm"
-R
Actually, historically when a company splits in two the combined value of the two companies is worth more than the single company was. Take Ma Bell as the best example of this -- even if Lucent ends up worth nothing, there's SBC, PacBell (now a wholly owned subsidiary of SBC), AT&T, Bell Labs...
And when two companies merge, typically the combined company is worth less than both companies were. Think AOL/Time Warner.
One of the brightest moves Coca-Cola ever made was to split their core syrup/merchandising operation (KO) from their bottling operation (CCE). CCE ends up bearing the brunt of the market's ups and downs, and KO is a gleaming star of profit and happiness. I think we'll see a similar thing with Palm; the hardware end of Palm will have to deal with current market ups and downs, and the OS division will probably be the steady performer.
The moral of the story is that this is a good move for investors. As we UNIX geeks know, there's something to be said for having some small special-purpose entities that you can combine in just the right ways than one monolithic entity.
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This is more proof that rich people spend lots of money, because they can.
Healthcare article at Kuro5hin
The "One" part makes all the difference in the world! I'll take two of everything.
It took two years to come up with this? If I screwed around with one line of code for two years, I'd probably be fired.
didn't anyone tell palm what it means to palm one?
jimmy, go palm one of those palms.....
Wasn't Palmone something that gave you perfect fingertips, and it washed your dishes, too?
Oh, wait, that was Palmolive.
Your tone hurts my feelings. It really does.
We're here to give you an OS, not a religion.
Funny stuff.
Upon closer inspection it appears from their logo that the new name will actually be pa1mONE. That's the number 1, not the letter l. Wonderful. If that isn't cause for a DDOS attack, I don't know what is.
Not to start a flame war over the incorrect use of irony, but isn't it ironic that their name, which is meant to show their solidarity and dominance, uses a term for "one" twice?
And if you disagree with my use of "irony" as a word, please replace "ironic" with "hilariously coincidental," pretend I said it the whole time, and don't flame me for it.
Isn't it odd that we get uptight about the use of "irony" but we allow people to write "lol" in posts and get away with it. "lol" isn't even a word. Without capitalization or periods, it's not even a proper acronym, but it's totally acceptable.
Well, there's another post that's gonna be modded down for being off-topic. Damn my train-of-thought writing style!
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I'd rather be flamed than ignored.
Another great name: Danger Hiptop. Say it,... it just rolls of the tounge. It sounds Dangerous, and Hip. shocking, that.
So what the heck is this T-Mobile Sidekick BS? Was having "Danger" and "Hip" in the same name too frightening for the elderly? Or did they change it just because it wasn't their name?
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I'd rather be flamed than ignored.
because the 1 instead of the l makes it even harder to say to people.
"Go to slash-dot-one-dot-org with a one in it."
"What?"
"slash-dot-one-dot-org... with a one at the beginning... why is this so hard?"
"So it's '1/.1.org'? I'm soooo confused!"
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I'd rather be flamed than ignored.
i think palmone is better than palm as a name. the name palm confused a lot of ppl so people frequently called it palm pilot instead. but palmone kinda sucks too (is it somehow a rip-off of the realone player name?).
One of my favorite comments was from a random article from Google News. It pointed out that "palmOne" does not rhyme with "bologna". I'm gonna get the chuckles from now on every time I see a product stamped with "palmOne".
correct me if im wrong... wasnt Handspring founded by the two guys who originally founded Palm and then left?
...and that's all there is to it.
-jm
So a company that is having money problems spends all that money to change there name from 'Palm' to 'PalmOne'.
You know the sad thing? It doesn't really surprise me.
It's inaccurate, slow and constantly gets confused. I used to be able to keep minutes on the thing, but no more, because the strokes just don't pick up fast enough. Forget about PocketPCs, boycott Xerox!
I don't deal with convicted monopoly abusers.
I want stability.
I choose carefuly my service providers amongst companies with some integrity.
IANAL but write like a drunk one.
What i think is kinda messed up is that they changed it to pa1mone with the number 1 ... like we all know ... but the url is palmone.com .... and if you TRY pa1mone.com it goes to like a temporary network solutions page. YOu THINK that would have been important to have the url.
-joe