Look into Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, and the congresscritters behind them. The banks were required to make very risky loans, and it caught up with them. I mean, with us, because it's our tax money that bailed them out. So yeah, he has a point. Why hunt down a guy who uploaded a movie and send him to jail, when (for example) the people directly responsible for the recession saw no fines, no jail terms, got reelected? I think it's because in the first case, it's the plaintiff making the rules, and in the second case, it's the defendant who is making the rules.
Oh, I understand how it works, but Samsung has to realize that some significant number of customers are going to respond by jumping ship. And that's how it goes.
> I don't think so, but the parents are that much dumber. Or less attentive (same thing, really.)
Agree, but I don't think parents are dumber. I suspect parents these days are just less engaged with their kids. There's a tendency to just let the state take care of them during the day and the TV take care of them the rest of the time. Both the state and, oh, just about every bit of marketing you see, tends to encourage this condition. A couple generations, parents will be pretty much superfluous.
More to it than that. He appears (from his words) to be the same anonymous coward that unnecessarily insulted the base poster in a different thread. 'Course, it's hard to tell; all anonymous cowards look alike.
Understood. My first smartphone was a 600 in '03 or thereabouts, which I kept until it departed this mortal coil. I replaced it with a 680. As I recall, there were at least two firmware updates for the 600, and one for the 680, but in general there wasn't a lot of feature churn at the time (or need for it) so it wasn't an issue.
On the other hand, my daughter's Galaxy was sold to us with the stipulation that it would have certain features "any day now", and it was actually almost a year. The mistakes were (a) setting our expectations, (b) incessant delays, and (c) silence from the vendor on the issue. It was a different thing.
We will eventually, I think, get back to about one update a year that we're not looking forward to all that much.
I think you mean *new* feature rich. Eventually there will be more features than we can shake a stick at, and hopefully the releases will be further apart and more stable. But not now.
As a consumer of smartphones, I'm not opposed to price sensitivity.:-)
While the battery is good? I don't understand. I swapped out the battery in my Droid X just this morning. I keep two, one on the charger and one in the phone.
Ok, good point. I think the issues are (a) smartphones are more of an investment than dumb phones, which have been relegated to beyond-free or burner status. Spending $300-$400 on a phone, you expect certain things to work, aaaand...
(b), we're still on the (tail end of the) steep end of the curve on the latest generation of smartphones. Remember all the hoopla over Froyo -- it was a must-have update, and some vendors damaged their reputations by stringing it out too far. As we get higher on the curve, I think we'll see a gradual return to handsets you can buy and use them for a reasonable useful time span without updates.
Most of us can't peek under the covers, so it's entirely possible that Samsung starts porting new versions of Android early and really are running into a significant number of kernel related issues. I will give them that.
I think where Samsung is falling down is in keeping the users informed. Months go by with either silence or a grudging "we're working on it" with no indication of whether your model is included in "it" or how long "working" is estimated to take, and the users start to become justified in getting a mite testy. Or, say, switching platforms at upgrade time. The salescreature said we'd have to upgrade to a Galaxy S II to get Gingerbread. Daughter bought a Bionic instead, from a different carrier.
> This has little to do with Google, the exception being for hand sets that Google made themselves. Would you blame MS if HP didn't release Win7 drivers for old printers for example?
That's a *great* question. I was in that situation -- upgraded recently to Win7 and found that my perfectly functional HP scanner wouldn't work at all, ever, on Win7. As a geek, I'm sure there are perfectly good reasons why XP drivers won't work on 7, but as a user it's beyond irritating.
But just on the off chance it's HP's fault, I gave away the scanner to someone who was going to buy an HP scanner (eliminating one sale) and bought an Epson scanner as a replacement (eliminating two sales). So there.
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Look into Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, and the congresscritters behind them. The banks were required to make very risky loans, and it caught up with them. I mean, with us, because it's our tax money that bailed them out. So yeah, he has a point. Why hunt down a guy who uploaded a movie and send him to jail, when (for example) the people directly responsible for the recession saw no fines, no jail terms, got reelected? I think it's because in the first case, it's the plaintiff making the rules, and in the second case, it's the defendant who is making the rules.
> and has much more impact on the revenue for the film.
Right, in this case, by warning people away.
Hey, that's an insult to Fieros!
I think I saw that movie.
> and no one would have gave a shit if they did hear.
Do we now?
Perhaps not patent trolls, just really REALLY optimistic.
Underarm deodorant.
Oh, I understand how it works, but Samsung has to realize that some significant number of customers are going to respond by jumping ship. And that's how it goes.
Two words.... oh never mind, this wouldn't end well.
> I don't think so, but the parents are that much dumber. Or less attentive (same thing, really.)
Agree, but I don't think parents are dumber. I suspect parents these days are just less engaged with their kids. There's a tendency to just let the state take care of them during the day and the TV take care of them the rest of the time. Both the state and, oh, just about every bit of marketing you see, tends to encourage this condition. A couple generations, parents will be pretty much superfluous.
> We all had lawn darts and played with fireworks and yet we all managed to survive just fine!
Well, most of us did.
A .22 cal gun with a supersonic projectile *is* a firearm.
Fortunately, it's more like 500-600 fps in an air rifle. (Where are you getting *your* air rifles, MI6?)
When I was a kid, we got shot in the head and *liked* it.
Seriously, I have a scar on my forehead from a direct shot to the head from a BB gun. Pretty sure it didn't diminish my IQ more than 10-20 points.
Our main concern at the time was avoiding our parents finding out. Yes, exactly like the Christmas story.
So, if Joel's parents are reading this, no it wasn't a freak ricochet.
"Take one 'a' those things to the head and you're going to get coloring books for Christmas for the rest of your life."
More to it than that. He appears (from his words) to be the same anonymous coward that unnecessarily insulted the base poster in a different thread. 'Course, it's hard to tell; all anonymous cowards look alike.
Understood. My first smartphone was a 600 in '03 or thereabouts, which I kept until it departed this mortal coil. I replaced it with a 680. As I recall, there were at least two firmware updates for the 600, and one for the 680, but in general there wasn't a lot of feature churn at the time (or need for it) so it wasn't an issue.
On the other hand, my daughter's Galaxy was sold to us with the stipulation that it would have certain features "any day now", and it was actually almost a year. The mistakes were (a) setting our expectations, (b) incessant delays, and (c) silence from the vendor on the issue. It was a different thing.
We will eventually, I think, get back to about one update a year that we're not looking forward to all that much.
I think you mean *new* feature rich. Eventually there will be more features than we can shake a stick at, and hopefully the releases will be further apart and more stable. But not now.
As a consumer of smartphones, I'm not opposed to price sensitivity. :-)
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While the battery is good? I don't understand. I swapped out the battery in my Droid X just this morning. I keep two, one on the charger and one in the phone.
Oh, wait...
Ok, good point. I think the issues are (a) smartphones are more of an investment than dumb phones, which have been relegated to beyond-free or burner status. Spending $300-$400 on a phone, you expect certain things to work, aaaand...
(b), we're still on the (tail end of the) steep end of the curve on the latest generation of smartphones. Remember all the hoopla over Froyo -- it was a must-have update, and some vendors damaged their reputations by stringing it out too far. As we get higher on the curve, I think we'll see a gradual return to handsets you can buy and use them for a reasonable useful time span without updates.
Most of us can't peek under the covers, so it's entirely possible that Samsung starts porting new versions of Android early and really are running into a significant number of kernel related issues. I will give them that.
I think where Samsung is falling down is in keeping the users informed. Months go by with either silence or a grudging "we're working on it" with no indication of whether your model is included in "it" or how long "working" is estimated to take, and the users start to become justified in getting a mite testy. Or, say, switching platforms at upgrade time. The salescreature said we'd have to upgrade to a Galaxy S II to get Gingerbread. Daughter bought a Bionic instead, from a different carrier.
> This has little to do with Google, the exception being for hand sets that Google made themselves. Would you blame MS if HP didn't release Win7 drivers for old printers for example?
That's a *great* question. I was in that situation -- upgraded recently to Win7 and found that my perfectly functional HP scanner wouldn't work at all, ever, on Win7. As a geek, I'm sure there are perfectly good reasons why XP drivers won't work on 7, but as a user it's beyond irritating.
But just on the off chance it's HP's fault, I gave away the scanner to someone who was going to buy an HP scanner (eliminating one sale) and bought an Epson scanner as a replacement (eliminating two sales). So there.
'S ok, she's the current custodian of the emp cannon.