About 12 times more than a Gamecube. Mind you you don't have the fun of spending half an hour of installation and configuring before actually getting it to work. Windows gamers are people who waste a fortune on a computer and then realise that playing sub-standard games is the only thing it will actually do!
Or alternatively you could just spend £100 on a PS2/Gamecube and play the newest games as they should be played (ie, no installs) and bypass the evil empire all together! (or I suppose you could buy an Xbox!)
Apologies for the mispellings. But when your constantly switching between Office, Quark, Photoshop, Illustrator, AcrobatPro and your browser it's easy to make mistakes. Yeah running a mac these days is sooo frustrating!!!
Have a nice day 'playing' with your Gimp.
Whooh, Linux man bites...
The point I was trying to make, but obviously didn't didn't spell out in simple enough terms is that while hobbyists (such as yourself) will always enjoy 'playing' with technology, this will never drive the industry or interest those of us who have to use our machines to perform 'real world' tasks on our desktops. As for 'My' Apple, nobody has critisised Mac's more than me over the last 15 years (If I'm a zealot, i'm a *nix one!) but I do recognise that they inovate (often to their cost, and the benefit of others). The 'closed' architecture of the mac world is the absolute key to their success as a robust and usable system. The most obvious example of this is the OSX installation procedure, which makes a mockery of Linux installers (though I'm glad to see that they are getting better since the release of OSX).
A glance through any current Linux magazine will show every other screenshot sporting a 'fake' OSX theme. My point is, Apple have shown the Linux community what is possible to build onto a *nix kernal, it is now time for them to deliver the same user experience to the beigebox. What you manage to dismiss as a 'glossy' interface is exactly what makes me realise that the people at Apple get computers, and you don't. I'ts like saying that how a car drives doesn't matter, so long as you can get it to rev at 20,000 rpm, and take it to pieces yourself. Your comment's on PDA's etc. running OSX are simply hilarious and show that you have no knowledge whatsoever of the kind of hardware needed to run an OS like the Mac.
You remind me of the so called 'IT' people I used to deal with in the eighties, who dismissed the mac because it had no Command line. Talk about not getting the point.
You say you'll have the 'latest technology' every 2 years. Are you referring to Dell's 15 year old sytem architecture, The joke operating system it ships with or the classy plastic case? I bought a revB imac in 1999 and have a Dell Precision (this years) and a P3 Lattitude laptop at work (I'm an IT manager at a large Publishing House) as well as a G4 PowerMac (for when I actually need to do some work quickly). When it comes to finding a file on the hard disk and launching the application to edit it, my old OS9 imac still DESTROYS anything running Windows. To compare a modern mac with anything running Windows is a total joke.
...yeah, practically every piece of mainstream software in exsistence. The truth is Apple made a far better OS than Linux in 2 releases, which has all of the Linux advantages (admittedly excluding cost) plus access to mainstream software, vastly superior GUI and a consistent UI across apps (if you don't include X apps of course). Linux users will continue to pretend that Macs are too expensive, and that it's better to build your own computer out of sand, but the truth is their days are numbered. The only reason I can see for running Linux on a whitebox is that it is the closest thing that the Intel world can get to OSX.
I know this has been explained time and time again, people still don't seem to get it. The truth is Apple are NOT a niche company. They are in fact one of the biggest, and certainly the most important PC company in the industry ever since they invented it. The misunderstanding is created (and heavily milked by toy companies such as Microsoft) because nobody stops to think about what a computer user actually is. The vast majority (in my experience) of Windows users are not computer users, or at least they are people who do not rely on a computer to do their work. If they did they would not be able to afford the constant patching, rebooting, viri or worse (MS patches and software). Most MS customers use computers for tasks that could be accomplished by an Amstrad Word processor 10 years ago (email/word proceccing). Of course I'm forgetting gaming. MS also appeal to people who spend over a grand on a games system thats almost as good as a $100 PS2, once you've spent an hour installing it. The hard truth is Electrical chains will continue to push joke technology such as Windows and office, as long as there are people dumb enough to buy it. That's because they can sell them a $300 computer for $1500, and know for a fact that they will need a new one in 6 months. My point is, these people are badly informed consumers, NOT computer users. Computer users are Publishing Companies, Design Agencies, Aircraft Designers, Recording Studios,... the list is endless, but you'll probably find all of these industries dismissed by the so called computer press (ie MS press) as 'niche' industries. How convenient.
I challenge anybody to name a single MS innovation since they ported somebody elses code to the Altair. Not much of a record for a so called 'Industry Leader' hah. The great news for all of us Mac/*nix users is that from a technology point of view, we will always be at least 5 years ahead of the 'wanabees'.
Though this has been explained time and time again, people still don't seem to get it. The truth is Apple are NOT a niche company. They are in fact one of the biggest, and certainly the most important PC company in the industry ever since they invented it. The misunderstanding is created (and heavily milked by toy companies such as Microsoft) because nobody stops to think about what a computer user actually is. The vast majority (in my experience) of Windows users are not computer users, or at least they are people who do not rely on a computer to do their work. If they did they would not be able to afford the constant patching, rebooting, viri or worse (MS patches and software). Most MS customers use computers for tasks that could be accomplished by an Amstrad Word processor 10 years ago (email/word proceccing). Of course I'm forgetting gaming. MS also appeal to people who spend over a grand on a games system thats almost as good as a $100 PS2, once you've spent an hour installing it. The hard truth is Electrical chains will continue to push joke technology such as Windows and office, as long as there are people dumb enough to buy it. That's because they can sell them a $300 computer for $1500, and know for a fact that they will need a new one in 6 months. My point is, these people are badly informed consumers, NOT computer users. Computer users are Publishing Companies, Design Agencies, Aircraft Designers, Recording Studios,... the list is endless, but you'll probably find all of these industries dismissed by the so called computer press (ie MS press) as 'niche' industries. How convenient.
I challenge anybody to name a single MS innovation since they ported somebody elses code to the Altair. Not much of a record for a so called 'Industry Leader' hah.
Though this has been explained time and time again, people still don't seem to get it. The truth is Apple are NOT a niche company. They are in fact one of the biggest, and certainly the most important PC company in the industry ever since they invented it. The misunderstanding is created (and heavily milked by toy companies such as Microsoft) because nobody stops to think about what a computer user actually is. The vast majority (in my experience) of Windows users are not computer users, or at least they are people who do not rely on a computer to do their work. If they did they would not be able to afford the constant patching, rebooting, viri or worse (MS patches and software). Most MS customers use computers for tasks that could be accomplished by an Amstrad Word processor 10 years ago (email/word proceccing). Of course I'm forgetting gaming. MS also appeal to people who spend over a grand on a games system thats almost as good as a $100 PS2, once you've spent an hour installing it. The hard truth is Electrical chains will continue to push joke technology such as Windows and office, as long as there are people dumb enough to buy it. That's because they can sell them a $300 computer for $1500, and know for a fact that they will need a new one in 6 months. My point is, these people are badly informed consumers, NOT computer users. Computer users are Publishing Companies, Design Agencies, Aircraft Designers, Recording Studios,... the list is endless, but you'll probably find all of these industries dismissed by the so called computer press (ie MS press) as 'niche' industries. How convenient. I challenge anybody to name a single MS innovation since they ported somebody elses code to the Altair. Not much of a record for a so called 'Industry Leader' hah.
I'ts not a new computer you need, it's an education... I suggest you speak to someone who understands what microprocessors actually and how they work are before making sad (although amusing!) comments.
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About 12 times more than a Gamecube. Mind you you don't have the fun of spending half an hour of installation and configuring before actually getting it to work. Windows gamers are people who waste a fortune on a computer and then realise that playing sub-standard games is the only thing it will actually do!
Or alternatively you could just spend £100 on a PS2/Gamecube and play the newest games as they should be played (ie, no installs) and bypass the evil empire all together! (or I suppose you could buy an Xbox!)
Apologies for the mispellings. But when your constantly switching between Office, Quark, Photoshop, Illustrator, AcrobatPro and your browser it's easy to make mistakes. Yeah running a mac these days is sooo frustrating!!! Have a nice day 'playing' with your Gimp.
Whooh, Linux man bites... The point I was trying to make, but obviously didn't didn't spell out in simple enough terms is that while hobbyists (such as yourself) will always enjoy 'playing' with technology, this will never drive the industry or interest those of us who have to use our machines to perform 'real world' tasks on our desktops. As for 'My' Apple, nobody has critisised Mac's more than me over the last 15 years (If I'm a zealot, i'm a *nix one!) but I do recognise that they inovate (often to their cost, and the benefit of others). The 'closed' architecture of the mac world is the absolute key to their success as a robust and usable system. The most obvious example of this is the OSX installation procedure, which makes a mockery of Linux installers (though I'm glad to see that they are getting better since the release of OSX). A glance through any current Linux magazine will show every other screenshot sporting a 'fake' OSX theme. My point is, Apple have shown the Linux community what is possible to build onto a *nix kernal, it is now time for them to deliver the same user experience to the beigebox. What you manage to dismiss as a 'glossy' interface is exactly what makes me realise that the people at Apple get computers, and you don't. I'ts like saying that how a car drives doesn't matter, so long as you can get it to rev at 20,000 rpm, and take it to pieces yourself. Your comment's on PDA's etc. running OSX are simply hilarious and show that you have no knowledge whatsoever of the kind of hardware needed to run an OS like the Mac. You remind me of the so called 'IT' people I used to deal with in the eighties, who dismissed the mac because it had no Command line. Talk about not getting the point.
Jeez what a tool!
You say you'll have the 'latest technology' every 2 years. Are you referring to Dell's 15 year old sytem architecture, The joke operating system it ships with or the classy plastic case? I bought a revB imac in 1999 and have a Dell Precision (this years) and a P3 Lattitude laptop at work (I'm an IT manager at a large Publishing House) as well as a G4 PowerMac (for when I actually need to do some work quickly). When it comes to finding a file on the hard disk and launching the application to edit it, my old OS9 imac still DESTROYS anything running Windows. To compare a modern mac with anything running Windows is a total joke.
...yeah, practically every piece of mainstream software in exsistence. The truth is Apple made a far better OS than Linux in 2 releases, which has all of the Linux advantages (admittedly excluding cost) plus access to mainstream software, vastly superior GUI and a consistent UI across apps (if you don't include X apps of course). Linux users will continue to pretend that Macs are too expensive, and that it's better to build your own computer out of sand, but the truth is their days are numbered. The only reason I can see for running Linux on a whitebox is that it is the closest thing that the Intel world can get to OSX.
I know this has been explained time and time again, people still don't seem to get it. The truth is Apple are NOT a niche company. They are in fact one of the biggest, and certainly the most important PC company in the industry ever since they invented it. The misunderstanding is created (and heavily milked by toy companies such as Microsoft) because nobody stops to think about what a computer user actually is. The vast majority (in my experience) of Windows users are not computer users, or at least they are people who do not rely on a computer to do their work. If they did they would not be able to afford the constant patching, rebooting, viri or worse (MS patches and software). Most MS customers use computers for tasks that could be accomplished by an Amstrad Word processor 10 years ago (email/word proceccing). Of course I'm forgetting gaming. MS also appeal to people who spend over a grand on a games system thats almost as good as a $100 PS2, once you've spent an hour installing it. The hard truth is Electrical chains will continue to push joke technology such as Windows and office, as long as there are people dumb enough to buy it. That's because they can sell them a $300 computer for $1500, and know for a fact that they will need a new one in 6 months. My point is, these people are badly informed consumers, NOT computer users. Computer users are Publishing Companies, Design Agencies, Aircraft Designers, Recording Studios, ... the list is endless, but you'll probably find all of these industries dismissed by the so called computer press (ie MS press) as 'niche' industries. How convenient.
I challenge anybody to name a single MS innovation since they ported somebody elses code to the Altair. Not much of a record for a so called 'Industry Leader' hah. The great news for all of us Mac/*nix users is that from a technology point of view, we will always be at least 5 years ahead of the 'wanabees'.
Though this has been explained time and time again, people still don't seem to get it. The truth is Apple are NOT a niche company. They are in fact one of the biggest, and certainly the most important PC company in the industry ever since they invented it. The misunderstanding is created (and heavily milked by toy companies such as Microsoft) because nobody stops to think about what a computer user actually is. The vast majority (in my experience) of Windows users are not computer users, or at least they are people who do not rely on a computer to do their work. If they did they would not be able to afford the constant patching, rebooting, viri or worse (MS patches and software). Most MS customers use computers for tasks that could be accomplished by an Amstrad Word processor 10 years ago (email/word proceccing). Of course I'm forgetting gaming. MS also appeal to people who spend over a grand on a games system thats almost as good as a $100 PS2, once you've spent an hour installing it. The hard truth is Electrical chains will continue to push joke technology such as Windows and office, as long as there are people dumb enough to buy it. That's because they can sell them a $300 computer for $1500, and know for a fact that they will need a new one in 6 months. My point is, these people are badly informed consumers, NOT computer users. Computer users are Publishing Companies, Design Agencies, Aircraft Designers, Recording Studios, ... the list is endless, but you'll probably find all of these industries dismissed by the so called computer press (ie MS press) as 'niche' industries. How convenient.
I challenge anybody to name a single MS innovation since they ported somebody elses code to the Altair. Not much of a record for a so called 'Industry Leader' hah.
Though this has been explained time and time again, people still don't seem to get it. The truth is Apple are NOT a niche company. They are in fact one of the biggest, and certainly the most important PC company in the industry ever since they invented it. The misunderstanding is created (and heavily milked by toy companies such as Microsoft) because nobody stops to think about what a computer user actually is. The vast majority (in my experience) of Windows users are not computer users, or at least they are people who do not rely on a computer to do their work. If they did they would not be able to afford the constant patching, rebooting, viri or worse (MS patches and software). Most MS customers use computers for tasks that could be accomplished by an Amstrad Word processor 10 years ago (email/word proceccing). Of course I'm forgetting gaming. MS also appeal to people who spend over a grand on a games system thats almost as good as a $100 PS2, once you've spent an hour installing it. The hard truth is Electrical chains will continue to push joke technology such as Windows and office, as long as there are people dumb enough to buy it. That's because they can sell them a $300 computer for $1500, and know for a fact that they will need a new one in 6 months. My point is, these people are badly informed consumers, NOT computer users. Computer users are Publishing Companies, Design Agencies, Aircraft Designers, Recording Studios, ... the list is endless, but you'll probably find all of these industries dismissed by the so called computer press (ie MS press) as 'niche' industries. How convenient.
I challenge anybody to name a single MS innovation since they ported somebody elses code to the Altair. Not much of a record for a so called 'Industry Leader' hah.
I'ts not a new computer you need, it's an education... I suggest you speak to someone who understands what microprocessors actually and how they work are before making sad (although amusing!) comments.