"But if you are going to do anything, you should use Twitter," he said he told them. "They asked what that was. And I told them that if you write something on it, then you can reach many Japanese journalists. So they said, 'try it'."
"I don't think they realize they were tricked," he said.
I think he either thought Twitter had the highest chance of success based on his circumstances or he just saw his window of opportunity closing and said the first thing that popped into his head.
Unfortunately the inability to play games you have paid for from backups is a casualty of the war against video game theft(I refuse to call it piracy, because it is outright theft in this case). Of course, being able to make backups of your own games has been a capability that has never existed on consoles.
I normally don't care whether people call it theft or piracy but since you're making the distinction I feel the need to as well. When you "buy" a game you're buying permission to use a copy of it. You're not stealing a game by having an unauthorized copy, you're using it without permission. Theft is depriving someone of physical property against their will; the only way you can steal a game is to take it off the shelf or take it from someone's house without permission.
Does piracy cost developer money? Yes, but no one knows how much. Does piracy cause some people to buy content they wouldn't otherwise? Yes, but no one knows how much. Do I, as a legitimate consumer, care about that pissing match? No.
If someone is able to come up with a way that would somehow allow legitimate customers to play backups of legally purchased games but not allow people to download games without paying for them, great. I'm all for that, as long as it isn't too intrusive. Until then, backups are a casualty of the war to prevent video game theft.
I have no interest in being a casualty of the war on (insert item here). If I have to resort to unauthorized methods to make perfectly legal backups I will continue to do so.
I think you're missing the point. The OP doesn't care about this subject in particular, he cares about slashdot not sucking more than necessary.
I believe that is the whole reason Idle exists, for all the stuff that really isn't news per se but is still tangentially related. Twitter gets covered a lot on Slashdot but this article isn't exactly huge news so it got dumped here.
Which brings me back to my original point, the OP clearly cares enough about this article to make his or her opinion on it known. If the AC had specifically mentioned displeasure with Slashdot rather than an article in Idle of all places I'd be inclined to agree with you, but it seems the issue is with this article specifically.
As in "homebrew" pirated games, yes? Do you honestly think more than 10% of the people who "jailbreak" a ps3 are doing it so they can run Linux or play homebrew games on it? Of course not, they are doing it so they can download games and not pay for them. Given the fact that one of the first things that seemed to be released with the new "jailbreak" were ways to play "backups", I think it is pretty obvious what people really want it for. Stop pretending otherwise. Sony is well within their rights to stop people from stealing games. If you are mad at Sony for taking away your ability to play Linux or whatever on it, maybe you should get mad at the "pirates" who feel they are entitled to play games they haven't paid for, because they are the reason Sony has to take away the capabilities.
I would be interested in your thoughts on playing games I have paid for from backups. I keep the originals in the cases and out of reach of children and careless adults. I bought the console, I bought the game, I just made a copy for personal use. Does that make me a pirate?
Personally, I'd be happy if people just stopped saying Sony won or lost because reality is nowhere near that simple. Yesterday's news was a setback for Sony, not a loss. Todays news is not a loss for console hackers, it's a setback. Now that the genie's out of the bottle a lot of people are going to do whatever it takes to block updates to their PS3s. Linux is once again possible but piracy is also possible now. I imagine some people at Sony are still pretty shaken by the fact that their unhackable console was hacked.
Overrated? Someone who disagrees with you must have mod points.;)
I had a similar discussion about music. It came down to the theory that the majority of a generation always seems to hate the games/music/media of the generation after for the reasons you described. There are always going to be abuses of advances in technology, sometimes to the point of obscenity, but it will eventually level off. In the worst case, we still have damn addicting flash games.
You seem convinced I have a grudge against Wikipedia or that I believe it won't work just because I pointed out one example that contradicts your belief. But it's exactly what you say it is, "an insignificant problem in some obscure article", so why does it have you worked up? You automatically assumed that because I pointed out an error in one article I not only didn't have an account, but that I've also never attempted to improve the quality of the content.
Of course Wikipedia has flaws or mistakes, any system does, but it seems you're unwilling to accept even one of them being pointed out to you.
If you find a citation to a source that is unreliable, remove it. I'm sure Wikipedia has typos, too. It's the encyclopedia anyone can edit. Fix it, don't just complain about it.
I've reread my comment and don't see where I complained about Wikipedia, I just made an observation that contradicted your statement. If that offended you, you might want to take a break.
As for editing Wikipedia, I have an account and have corrected several obvious typos (e.g. "teh" instead of "the") in several articles, but it seems some of the editors are more interested in scoring points by reverting changes others make than actually verifying whether those changes are correct. I still try fixing the odd article but only changes to the really obscure ones seem to stick. I am trying to fix it but it seems complaining a little is necessary as well.
I don't have any kind of vendetta against Wikipedia, I think it's a great source of information, but it's become "the free encyclopedia that anyone can edit as long as they don't mind their changes being reverted within 24 hours".
In general, what Wikipedia considers to be a reliable source is a publication that has some sort of editorial control, such as a traditional newspaper or periodical, book published by a traditional publishing company, or a company's official website.
Like the Geocities page in the references for the UVB-76 article?
I think that quote actually have happened. Some online porn company had charged various people for services they had failed to deliver, got a court order to pay their customers back, but sent checks in the company name easily readable.
I bet if I had a porn company sending me checks the bank manager would want me to autograph his penis.
It's true, if you get headaches from 3d, you will never be forced to get a 3d TV, since consumers are never forced into upgrading their equipment ever.
Now if you excuse me, I have to go buy "Inception" on VHS...
VHS died because DVD was obviously better. The quality wasn't as good as DVD, there weren't as many features as DVDs and you had to rewind your movies (hey, it was annoying).
I don't see 2D television going away any time soon as 3D isn't exactly an obvious improvement. It will probably become a niche, like vinyl in the audio world.
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"But if you are going to do anything, you should use Twitter," he said he told them. "They asked what that was. And I told them that if you write something on it, then you can reach many Japanese journalists. So they said, 'try it'."
"I don't think they realize they were tricked," he said.
I think he either thought Twitter had the highest chance of success based on his circumstances or he just saw his window of opportunity closing and said the first thing that popped into his head.
Your comment reminds me of a demotivational poster: "none of us is as dumb as all of us".
Unfortunately the inability to play games you have paid for from backups is a casualty of the war against video game theft(I refuse to call it piracy, because it is outright theft in this case). Of course, being able to make backups of your own games has been a capability that has never existed on consoles.
I normally don't care whether people call it theft or piracy but since you're making the distinction I feel the need to as well. When you "buy" a game you're buying permission to use a copy of it. You're not stealing a game by having an unauthorized copy, you're using it without permission. Theft is depriving someone of physical property against their will; the only way you can steal a game is to take it off the shelf or take it from someone's house without permission.
Does piracy cost developer money? Yes, but no one knows how much. Does piracy cause some people to buy content they wouldn't otherwise? Yes, but no one knows how much. Do I, as a legitimate consumer, care about that pissing match? No.
If someone is able to come up with a way that would somehow allow legitimate customers to play backups of legally purchased games but not allow people to download games without paying for them, great. I'm all for that, as long as it isn't too intrusive. Until then, backups are a casualty of the war to prevent video game theft.
I have no interest in being a casualty of the war on (insert item here). If I have to resort to unauthorized methods to make perfectly legal backups I will continue to do so.
He'd be better off printing then photographing the emails and turning them into a coffee table book.
Wow, that is pretty hardcore.
He was living in Hiroshima at the time.
I think you're missing the point. The OP doesn't care about this subject in particular, he cares about slashdot not sucking more than necessary.
I believe that is the whole reason Idle exists, for all the stuff that really isn't news per se but is still tangentially related. Twitter gets covered a lot on Slashdot but this article isn't exactly huge news so it got dumped here.
Which brings me back to my original point, the OP clearly cares enough about this article to make his or her opinion on it known. If the AC had specifically mentioned displeasure with Slashdot rather than an article in Idle of all places I'd be inclined to agree with you, but it seems the issue is with this article specifically.
As in "homebrew" pirated games, yes? Do you honestly think more than 10% of the people who "jailbreak" a ps3 are doing it so they can run Linux or play homebrew games on it? Of course not, they are doing it so they can download games and not pay for them. Given the fact that one of the first things that seemed to be released with the new "jailbreak" were ways to play "backups", I think it is pretty obvious what people really want it for. Stop pretending otherwise. Sony is well within their rights to stop people from stealing games. If you are mad at Sony for taking away your ability to play Linux or whatever on it, maybe you should get mad at the "pirates" who feel they are entitled to play games they haven't paid for, because they are the reason Sony has to take away the capabilities.
I would be interested in your thoughts on playing games I have paid for from backups. I keep the originals in the cases and out of reach of children and careless adults. I bought the console, I bought the game, I just made a copy for personal use. Does that make me a pirate?
You raise some interesting points. I hope you're right.
Ironically, I'd say you care. I can't understand why you'd take the time to post a comment otherwise.
Why would a woman want a snake robot as a sex toy? I'm pretty sure it's already possible to buy a dildo that throbs for much cheaper.
Yeah, because the last hack came out so quickly.
Personally, I'd be happy if people just stopped saying Sony won or lost because reality is nowhere near that simple. Yesterday's news was a setback for Sony, not a loss. Todays news is not a loss for console hackers, it's a setback. Now that the genie's out of the bottle a lot of people are going to do whatever it takes to block updates to their PS3s. Linux is once again possible but piracy is also possible now. I imagine some people at Sony are still pretty shaken by the fact that their unhackable console was hacked.
This is just as bad as a newspaper article!
Hurray! Slashdot has improved the quality of its summaries!
Why don't you *******s shut the ******* up!
Jeez, you really are a mad linguist.
PC Pro obviously needs to be blocked to prevent people from finding out the firewall doesn't work!
Looks more like spooky action at a distance to me.
Overrated? Someone who disagrees with you must have mod points. ;)
I had a similar discussion about music. It came down to the theory that the majority of a generation always seems to hate the games/music/media of the generation after for the reasons you described. There are always going to be abuses of advances in technology, sometimes to the point of obscenity, but it will eventually level off. In the worst case, we still have damn addicting flash games.
If you happen to use Firefox and Greasemonkey here is a script that automatically appends Coral Cache links for Slashdot as well.
And now, every time someone rightly says that 4chan is nothing but a batch of juvenile asshats, they'll trot out this one story as a counterexample.
Well, this one and the ones where they tracked down animal abusers from Youtube videos. Further reading if you're interested.
Speaking of confirmation bias...
You seem convinced I have a grudge against Wikipedia or that I believe it won't work just because I pointed out one example that contradicts your belief. But it's exactly what you say it is, "an insignificant problem in some obscure article", so why does it have you worked up? You automatically assumed that because I pointed out an error in one article I not only didn't have an account, but that I've also never attempted to improve the quality of the content.
Of course Wikipedia has flaws or mistakes, any system does, but it seems you're unwilling to accept even one of them being pointed out to you.
If you find a citation to a source that is unreliable, remove it. I'm sure Wikipedia has typos, too. It's the encyclopedia anyone can edit. Fix it, don't just complain about it.
I've reread my comment and don't see where I complained about Wikipedia, I just made an observation that contradicted your statement. If that offended you, you might want to take a break.
As for editing Wikipedia, I have an account and have corrected several obvious typos (e.g. "teh" instead of "the") in several articles, but it seems some of the editors are more interested in scoring points by reverting changes others make than actually verifying whether those changes are correct. I still try fixing the odd article but only changes to the really obscure ones seem to stick. I am trying to fix it but it seems complaining a little is necessary as well.
I don't have any kind of vendetta against Wikipedia, I think it's a great source of information, but it's become "the free encyclopedia that anyone can edit as long as they don't mind their changes being reverted within 24 hours".
In general, what Wikipedia considers to be a reliable source is a publication that has some sort of editorial control, such as a traditional newspaper or periodical, book published by a traditional publishing company, or a company's official website.
Like the Geocities page in the references for the UVB-76 article?
I think that quote actually have happened. Some online porn company had charged various people for services they had failed to deliver, got a court order to pay their customers back, but sent checks in the company name easily readable.
I bet if I had a porn company sending me checks the bank manager would want me to autograph his penis.
No-one is forcing you to buy it anyways
It's true, if you get headaches from 3d, you will never be forced to get a 3d TV, since consumers are never forced into upgrading their equipment ever.
Now if you excuse me, I have to go buy "Inception" on VHS...
VHS died because DVD was obviously better. The quality wasn't as good as DVD, there weren't as many features as DVDs and you had to rewind your movies (hey, it was annoying).
I don't see 2D television going away any time soon as 3D isn't exactly an obvious improvement. It will probably become a niche, like vinyl in the audio world.
You know, if they could make the actual release date on April 1st it would be rather funny. NOBODY would believe the press releases :-)
At this point, they could pick literally any other day of the year and nobody would believe the press release.
Haven't seen any Duke Nukem jokes on /. in a while.
We're still working on them. Expect some in 2011.