People are starving, a major conflict is going on in the middle east, global warming might very well be leading to the end of the American way of life (mass consumption without pragmatic bounds), and 2.6 billion dollars is being sunk into an, "International Chess City?" I guess you have to do something with all that oil money. Doesn't the UAE have the highest per-capita GDP in the world?
OH my god. I love that movie. C'mon...they have a punk-rock priest! It's one of those beautiful movies that are made to be horrible, and shine so bright in the night sky of movies you've seen that sometimes a can of altoids and Guinness at the same time can be a delicious thanksgiving dinner!
Here's my little theory on MST3K: It takes the true creative genius of hollywood - the fabled B movie - and massages it in a way that allows movie snobs, who would generally turn their nose up at the idea of possesed bulldosers attacking the general public, to enjoy them in their intended glory. What glory is that, you ask? These movies were MADE to be made fun of. They weren't made to be "good" in the classic hollywood sense. For example - go rent a movie called Sorrority Babes in the Slimeball Blow-a-rama. When you see that movie, you will understand what cinnematic zen really is.
check this out. FreeBSD, up over 1700 days. Kinda makes your 854 days look puny =\. But seriously, no system should be up that long without reboots. Security flaws come and go, and kernels need to be patched and recompiled. Any real sysadmin knows that effective uptime (that is, is the system up when it needs to be up?) is far more important than actual uptime. Long stretches of uptime just means you have an old, vulnerable box sitting there, waiting to be cracked, wormed, or expoited. Plus...if your linux box has been up for over 800 days you're missing out on a LOT of neat new technology. Er...unless you're a debian user.
Psh, it's called patching, man. But seriously, i'm glad everyone saw right past the point of my post - that you can easily skew data, and that guy's uptimes are no more valid than the ones i posted.
The only people with common sense (like us) go online to get info for free.
If only a small percentage of the total internet userbase "go online to get info for free", then how precisely is that common sense? It's certainly isn't very common. It's sensical, I'm not doubting that, rather what I'm saying is, common sense is standardized by the massses - it's what most people do. It's common. On the internet, common sense just happens to be ruled stupidity/laziness. Smart internet use, unfortunately, isn't common sense. It's the exception to the millions of ignorant users out there.
Now the work machine... /home/escott 3:11PM
soilsa120a: uname -a
FreeBSD soilsa120a 4.10-STABLE FreeBSD 4.10-STABLE #9: Fri Aug 6 14:50:23 PDT 2004 escott@soilsa120a:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386
What I'm saying is the issues are known, and it's a young OS. It's really just a preview of what's going on in development for those who aren't tracking it currently. And it does work.
Sure you can. My OpenBSD box has been up for 12 years. Solid. Seriously. And it gets 5,000,000,070,000.342 hits a day, while still being my gateway router (i provide internet services to an alien planet via high-throughput molecular two-way microradiowaves behind the router - approximately 17 billion users with ~3 mechagigabits upstream and ~4 gajillobits downstream per user). All on a 90 mhz pentium machine. Can't beat that with your mediocre linux junk.
AIM is not the "default configure on windows". It is, however, a non-standard configuration on some OS (like Windows - is OS X effected, too?). Now, we ARE talking a bug in the base code of AIM versus a third-party plugin for GAIM. That's apples and oranges...or really, a banana. You know:
But seriously, I wonder if he looked through the DragonFlyBSD website at any great length, or read through any of the mailing lists before he tried to install. I used dragonfly as my main desktop OS (but wait, it's not able to be used as a desktop os, right?) for a few months prior to the 1.0 release. X compiled fine from ports, so did gnome and a multitude of other programs. I rebuild world and the kernel atleast every other day (major changes are always going on, bugs are always being fixed, etc), and never had, at any moment, an unusable system. There is a guidebook/handbook in development. As for the SMP issues, I can't really say anything, since I don't have a SMP box, but I know that area's a little shakey.
I have a feeling the author of this article was expecting to jump into a 1.0 release OS the same way he would jump into FreeBSD 4.x stable. That's just not the way it works. You have to do research before you dive into a hyper-actively developed OS in the state that DragonFly is currently in. It's like running FreeBSD-current, only with the steel insides ripped out and replaced with titanium, gear by gear.
because all of those developers should be developing for linux, helping the domination of the One True OS! Developers spread throughout many projects is inefficient! LONG LIVE THE PENGUIN! DEATH TO CHOICE AND FREEDOM!
But seriously, he just seems like an ass. And kudos to the syllable team for trudging on. They have a nice little system coming along.
The opteron 1xx series is designed as a desktop/workstation chip. It's still tested the same as the 2xx and 8xx series chips, just with fewer memory hooks and a few less other things. It does, however, have 1 Gig l2 cache. Personally I think they should have compared chips with the same l2 cache size, because that can make a pretty big difference in these bastards.
Just because mainly highly liberal-minded people use them, doesn't mean Apple is a Communist organization! They are not Apple's computers that you are using for the good of the apple community, they're YOU computer, you bought it. Period. Dot. Punctuation. Gah i hate mass-marketing.
It seems that mentioning that you'll bet modded down, troll or otherwise, guarantees you'll be modded up. I personally mod down posts that try to predict their moderation.
That's debatable. I would say FreeBSD's ports is the father of portage. No real way to be sure, except that Gentoo's description of portage mentions *BSD's ports, and not apt:
"At first glance the idea behind Portage may seem similar to the traditional BSD ports system. They both compile packages from source and allow users to safely install and uninstall software from a system and both automatically handle dependencies. Many ideas for Portage are borrowed from the BSD ports system but Portage is definitely not just another "ports ripoff"."
The trick to gentoo is to keep it up to date, so emerge sync and emerge -u world EVERYDAY. At the most you'll compile about 5 - 10 things, but usually you won't be compiling anything. Updating usually takes a tiny fraction of your computing time everyday, and with an x86-64 chip you won't even notice it. Also, for the games, i run the following very nicely in gentoo:
Wolfenstien Enemy Territory
America's Army (in all it's bullshit propagandizing glory)
If you've got an nvidia card, you should have no problem. The docs on the gentoo site will get that going for you. nvidia did release amd64 binary linux drivers, and they are in portage. Just be sure you load the 32-bit libGL.so.x (in/usr/lib32), otherwise the games will complain and die angrily. Hopefully that helps.
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People are starving, a major conflict is going on in the middle east, global warming might very well be leading to the end of the American way of life (mass consumption without pragmatic bounds), and 2.6 billion dollars is being sunk into an, "International Chess City?" I guess you have to do something with all that oil money. Doesn't the UAE have the highest per-capita GDP in the world?
OH my god. I love that movie. C'mon...they have a punk-rock priest! It's one of those beautiful movies that are made to be horrible, and shine so bright in the night sky of movies you've seen that sometimes a can of altoids and Guinness at the same time can be a delicious thanksgiving dinner!
Here's my little theory on MST3K: It takes the true creative genius of hollywood - the fabled B movie - and massages it in a way that allows movie snobs, who would generally turn their nose up at the idea of possesed bulldosers attacking the general public, to enjoy them in their intended glory. What glory is that, you ask? These movies were MADE to be made fun of. They weren't made to be "good" in the classic hollywood sense. For example - go rent a movie called Sorrority Babes in the Slimeball Blow-a-rama. When you see that movie, you will understand what cinnematic zen really is.
Which is why I voted for Camejo! Davis was an ass, and Mr. Arnold hasn't pissed me off that much. And I consider myself a liberal.
It's a joke. It's funny. I giggled.
Awww you got mad. That's so cute!
check this out. FreeBSD, up over 1700 days. Kinda makes your 854 days look puny =\. But seriously, no system should be up that long without reboots. Security flaws come and go, and kernels need to be patched and recompiled. Any real sysadmin knows that effective uptime (that is, is the system up when it needs to be up?) is far more important than actual uptime. Long stretches of uptime just means you have an old, vulnerable box sitting there, waiting to be cracked, wormed, or expoited. Plus...if your linux box has been up for over 800 days you're missing out on a LOT of neat new technology. Er...unless you're a debian user.
I didn't change the release number, c'mon it's got to be somewhat believable.
Psh, it's called patching, man. But seriously, i'm glad everyone saw right past the point of my post - that you can easily skew data, and that guy's uptimes are no more valid than the ones i posted.
The only people with common sense (like us) go online to get info for free.
If only a small percentage of the total internet userbase "go online to get info for free", then how precisely is that common sense? It's certainly isn't very common. It's sensical, I'm not doubting that, rather what I'm saying is, common sense is standardized by the massses - it's what most people do. It's common. On the internet, common sense just happens to be ruled stupidity/laziness. Smart internet use, unfortunately, isn't common sense. It's the exception to the millions of ignorant users out there.
router:sp0rk {77} uname -a
/home/sp0rk 3:09PM
/home/sp0rk 3:09PM
/home/escott 3:11PM
/home/escott 3:11PM
OpenBSD router.charterpipeline.net 3.5 GENERIC#34 i386
router:sp0rk {78} uptime
8:17AM up 4380 days, 19:11, 4562 users, load averages: 0.14, 0.12, 0.12
brainguts: uname -a
FreeBSD brainguts 5.2.1-RELEASE-p7 FreeBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE-p7 #3: Tue May 25 22:49:47 PDT 2004 sp0rk@brainguts:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/BRAINEL i386
brainguts: uptime
3:09PM up 935 days, 23:22, 5 users, load averages: 1.00, 1.00, 1.0
And for good measure...
sp0rk@opterskank ~ $ uname -a
Linux opterskank 2.6.7-gentoo-r11 #3 Tue Jul 27 21:44:24 PDT 2004 x86_64 5 GNU/Linux
sp0rk@opterskank ~ $ uptime
15:10:57 up 1 day, 3:38, 4 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
Now the work machine...
soilsa120a: uname -a
FreeBSD soilsa120a 4.10-STABLE FreeBSD 4.10-STABLE #9: Fri Aug 6 14:50:23 PDT 2004 escott@soilsa120a:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386
soilsa120a: uptime
3:12PM up 395 days, 8 mins, 4 users, load averages: 0.12, 0.08, 0.03
So, there you have it.
What I'm saying is the issues are known, and it's a young OS. It's really just a preview of what's going on in development for those who aren't tracking it currently. And it does work.
Sure you can. My OpenBSD box has been up for 12 years. Solid. Seriously. And it gets 5,000,000,070,000.342 hits a day, while still being my gateway router (i provide internet services to an alien planet via high-throughput molecular two-way microradiowaves behind the router - approximately 17 billion users with ~3 mechagigabits upstream and ~4 gajillobits downstream per user). All on a 90 mhz pentium machine. Can't beat that with your mediocre linux junk.
Just do it. A rare, well-written and well-balanced post.
Ada does it with minimal overhead.
AIM is not the "default configure on windows". It is, however, a non-standard configuration on some OS (like Windows - is OS X effected, too?). Now, we ARE talking a bug in the base code of AIM versus a third-party plugin for GAIM. That's apples and oranges...or really, a banana. You know:
Go Apple!
Go Orange!
GO BANANA!
But seriously, I wonder if he looked through the DragonFlyBSD website at any great length, or read through any of the mailing lists before he tried to install. I used dragonfly as my main desktop OS (but wait, it's not able to be used as a desktop os, right?) for a few months prior to the 1.0 release. X compiled fine from ports, so did gnome and a multitude of other programs. I rebuild world and the kernel atleast every other day (major changes are always going on, bugs are always being fixed, etc), and never had, at any moment, an unusable system. There is a guidebook/handbook in development. As for the SMP issues, I can't really say anything, since I don't have a SMP box, but I know that area's a little shakey.
I have a feeling the author of this article was expecting to jump into a 1.0 release OS the same way he would jump into FreeBSD 4.x stable. That's just not the way it works. You have to do research before you dive into a hyper-actively developed OS in the state that DragonFly is currently in. It's like running FreeBSD-current, only with the steel insides ripped out and replaced with titanium, gear by gear.
because all of those developers should be developing for linux, helping the domination of the One True OS! Developers spread throughout many projects is inefficient! LONG LIVE THE PENGUIN! DEATH TO CHOICE AND FREEDOM!
But seriously, he just seems like an ass. And kudos to the syllable team for trudging on. They have a nice little system coming along.
The opteron 1xx series is designed as a desktop/workstation chip. It's still tested the same as the 2xx and 8xx series chips, just with fewer memory hooks and a few less other things. It does, however, have 1 Gig l2 cache. Personally I think they should have compared chips with the same l2 cache size, because that can make a pretty big difference in these bastards.
The Athlon-64 chips are just fo
APPLE IS STILL A PERSONAL FUCKING COMPUTER!
Just because mainly highly liberal-minded people use them, doesn't mean Apple is a Communist organization! They are not Apple's computers that you are using for the good of the apple community, they're YOU computer, you bought it. Period. Dot. Punctuation. Gah i hate mass-marketing.
hey! Ouch! Is that bleeding? No...no i guess not. Ouch, though!
It seems that mentioning that you'll bet modded down, troll or otherwise, guarantees you'll be modded up. I personally mod down posts that try to predict their moderation.
not debian... apt-get is the father of portage
That's debatable. I would say FreeBSD's ports is the father of portage. No real way to be sure, except that Gentoo's description of portage mentions *BSD's ports, and not apt:
"At first glance the idea behind Portage may seem similar to the traditional BSD ports system. They both compile packages from source and allow users to safely install and uninstall software from a system and both automatically handle dependencies. Many ideas for Portage are borrowed from the BSD ports system but Portage is definitely not just another "ports ripoff"."
The trick to gentoo is to keep it up to date, so emerge sync and emerge -u world EVERYDAY. At the most you'll compile about 5 - 10 things, but usually you won't be compiling anything. Updating usually takes a tiny fraction of your computing time everyday, and with an x86-64 chip you won't even notice it. Also, for the games, i run the following very nicely in gentoo:
/usr/lib32), otherwise the games will complain and die angrily. Hopefully that helps.
Wolfenstien Enemy Territory
America's Army (in all it's bullshit propagandizing glory)
If you've got an nvidia card, you should have no problem. The docs on the gentoo site will get that going for you. nvidia did release amd64 binary linux drivers, and they are in portage. Just be sure you load the 32-bit libGL.so.x (in
communist.