My main problem with the JS there is that it breaks a pretty universal UI feature: scrolling the page with arrow keys. When the search field is visible, it takes focus no matter what, so you cannot scroll with arrows -- or even with PgUp/PgDn! You can try this neatly by scrolling to the very bottom; from there you can scroll up with the keyboard, but only until you see the search field. I came across a similar problem very recently on another site, and promptly complained.
Sorry but i have to disagree with you there? I tried exactly what you did and it work fine. I even clicked in the search field to force the focus there and all I had to do was tab out of it and hey presto can scroll with the arrows keys again. This is how every other page behaves for me.
Hmm if you actually read my post you would see I was not attacking him but rather i was pointing out why the general feeling on slashdot towards MS and IE is negative. For example I never told him to fix it himself, I merely pointed out that if he wanted to he could where as with IE you don't even have that choice! Is reading the post and understanding it to much to ask?
Personally I think the comments you are referring to come from a number of different factors
Microsoft is often not the one to admit the security flaw. Where as Mozilla/firefox community is.
Often Microsoft will denie the flaw pointed out in point number 1
There have been numerous occurrences where an IE bug has allowed a whole PC to be taken over from bug that either MS denies exists or is very slow to patch. Holes like that in firefox generally get patched well before it is public knowledge.
for the longest time IE was the ONLY browser that would work properly on a windows environment and MS thought that was a "fair and just" way to do business.
Firefox is OSS, so you can go in there and fix/find the bug yourself where as with IE you have to rely on MS fixing it for you.
As for you issues with it crashing I think that is a bit personal/related to your system? Come on! you swapped to a completed different browser after little over a week of use? I personal run firefox 2 on OS X, windows XP/2000 and Linux (FC4,RHEL4u3) and have had not problems on any platform, but maybe that is just me.
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I don't mean to dash your hopes but the following line from the forum you linked to seems more like what is going on
Google Local makes links that relate to addresses, there was probably one that linked to voter registration data, which is public information.
I mean come on, if google were to do something like this why would they use a public accessible app? Someone is bound to crack it one day, and google would know this. It is more likely that if they were going to provide a app like this to the CIA it would be on a private VPN/even hosted in CIA/NSA data center just for the CIA. Putting it out in public where any doffus with a firefox extension can find the information is just plan stupid.
At the moment for large complex db applications yes. I won't go through the complete list of features as oracle are more than willing to telling you in great detail.
I run postgresql, mysql and oracle in production and there are heaps of things that postgres and mysql can't do that oracle can and I use on a daily basis.
As to whether they are worth the big $$ well that really depends on features, reliability and speed to production your db/applications needs. A simple web app, like slashdot, can get away with just mysql and do really well for years (although they did have to get special modifications made in the early years from what I understand). Where as more complex, time poor development wise applications will need a db that is rock solid(99% of the time once oracle is setup properly and is maintained it will run forever and yes I know people are going to disagree with me on this one) and packed with features right out of the box.
I am not saying that OSS db's are crap they are just not at oracle's level just yet, but I can tell you that oracle is starting to feel the pain from mysql and postgresql on the small db installs.
You are kidding right? They have the second most popular browser on the face of the planet and they are releasing it live to the Internet and your expecting the general public to behave? Slashdot or not they were going to get hammered
which has yet to be completed on the PC side (most PCs still come with COM and PARALLEL ports.. God help us all).
I am a UNIX admin and a Cisco network engineer. I configure my SUN, Linux and Cisco gear using the console. For that I need a COM port and guess what..... my fancy new macbook doesn't have a COM port so I had to go out and buy and USB COM port. So just because it is old doesn't mean it is useless. Personally it pissed me off when apple dropped everything bar USB as decent printers and world of other peripherals where hard to find for USB what didn't cost the earth.
NB in a large data center is far easier to bring a laptop with a COM port than a whole screen, keyboard and monitor. And yes KVMs fuck up all the time.
When my wan interface or network interface dies at 2am I don't think anyone from the OSS community is going to have a parts depot within 4 hours to fix the problem. I also don't see 24x7 tech support phone numbers manned by volunteers anytime soon.
You do have a point there. But as this runs on x86 hardware whats to stop you from having a stack of spare gig network cards lying around? Hell you could have a whole redundant box for the cost of the cisco gear. We have cisco here but honestly it is _MUCH_ faster to fix things yourself than wait for those guys to get back to you (4 hours is a long time in the ISP/teleco business).
When you have a database that a) is faster than Oracle and b) supports all the features of Oracle and c) can be clustered easier than Oracle and best of all d) it does not cost $200,000 per copy
I think out of all of those reasons it is d) is the one making more than 90% of the impact on oracle's business.
Most companies are starting to realize that they don't need the 5 million features that oracle offers (and charges for). So they are looking around for something cheaper/easier to manage etc... Hell look at the number of "cut down" versions/licenses of oracle you can get now (person, standard, standard one, named user etc...). Oracle like SUN before it is starting to lose the market from the bottom up.
I run with archive logs on, as this is necessary for any sort of production database. This it allows oracle to recover from block corruptions, it also allows for "restore to point in time" type recover.
What is happening to you is that in archive logging mode on you are filling up you archive log dest and thus oracle can't create another archive log file. In archive log mode it is 100% necessary for oracle to be able to create archive logs. What it is doing is copying off the redo logs as they cycle out, if it can't create an archive log it doesn't allow that redo log file to be reused and this no DML or DDL can occur. In oracle DML happens just by login in which is why it doesn't allow anyone in other that sys (this is the only user that has the privilege to login without creating records of the login).
What you should be doing is backing up the archive logs and then delete them on regular basis. It is highly dangerous to be running a production oracle DB without archive logging mode on. One block corruption in 1 tables space and you will be heading for the tapes to get back all the data files that make up that table space.
I am Oracle DBA (RAC and single instance) and I don't know what kind of screwy setup you have going on there but there is no it should crash if the file system fills up. The worse I have seen is not be able to log into (as anyone other than sys) a database that is in archive logging mode because it can't write anymore archive log files, this is expect behaviour not crashing.
Whem my datafiles out grow their disk I just get a warning similar to "Can't extend tablespace by 8k etc...." it _doesn't_ crash.
Or if it is not hardware locked down (BIOS etc...) why not just boot knoppix and coping that way. At least this saves from you a those horrible early mornings.
Yeah, using the GPS puts us all at the will of the Pentagon for our navigation needs, but creating an alternative is expensive and in my opinion more expensive than the freedom from the Pentagon's management is worth.
Arrh no! For 2 reasons
The company I work for has a fleet of mobile vans that we need to know the exact (within 10 meters) location off at all times. If the system is turned off to the civilian devices because of some attack on the other side of the world we can no longer do business efficiently(it will actually cost us money to keep running). I would much prefer a civilian system that we pay for and thus get guarantied service.
I personally do a number of a out door activities which rely heavily on GPS to navigate accurately and speedily. I really DO NOT want to be 500kms from the nearest human when the US decides it is time to turn off GPS!
I think for those reasons it is well worth the effort and the expense to build another alternative.
If you have every lived or been to tokyo you would know that space is at a premium(more so than new york) so the building would have had the security system refitted without even thinking about it as the land if _FAR_ more expensive than any security system would be. There is no way in hell they would let that size of building stand empty.
You definitely have a point there. Might be something taco should look into? But just remember your point always has more impact when you sign your post with your name and not just AC.
If you believe in it stand up for it don't just hide in the back ground.
The USA managed to name bin Laden as the "mastermind" beind the 9/11 attacks in the US pretty darned quick. Certainly not enough time to gather up security tapes from airports, identify the potential hijackers, and to draw the lines back to bin Laden. If they did, I sure wasn't told of it.
Wasn't he just a suspect for a very long time? Wasn't it just the media (looking at fox) that named him the master mind before any really evidence came to light? Also remember that being suspect can really mean many different things, if I live next door to a murder and I am questioned in regards to that murder (even if it is just to ask when was the last time I saw the dead person) I am consider a suspect. Also didn't he claim to be behind the attacks really early on?
Don't you also find it very odd that this CCTV system is being proposed so closely to the London bombings? I'd imagine it'd take a while for Lockheed to put together such a bid, or to suite their technology to this particular situation. They had to have been planning this implementation for some time. Government agencies, and their contractors, are not known to be fast acting bodies. This was in the works for a while, and with the London bombings the public will finally accept/fund the program.
Ya they probably have been planning on selling stuff to the govenment for ages, who wouldn't? But also if you have ever got a IT tender you would know that what the sales person says and what the actually system can do are two different things. It would only take 1-2 days to knock up a tender from a sales point of view
Terrorism is an international matter, and should be handled by the military and intelligence agencies. If they can't do the job, I'll take my risks rather than subject myself to total survelience.
How do you think they are going to track these terrorist? They can't really go up to them and ask "hey can you give me a quick run down of what you have done in the last few days?" Things like CCTV, phone taps etc... which I agree encroach on our freedom are really the only way do this. A totally free country is always going to be an easy target. So we have the choice either accept the increased surveillance or accept the inevitable deaths
Good point. Suicide bombers don't leave ANY evidence behind that might clue people into their identity. Except their body.
I don't know if you have had any experience with bodies that have been blown up but if you had you would know there is pretty much nothing left but residue.
No, it only told them what they looked like. They still had to figure out who they were, where they lived, who they had contact with, where they have travelled, etc.
Having the ability to visibly to identified the bombers and then track their last couple hours/minutes of movement would go along way to finding out who they were, where they lived, who they had contact with, where they have travelled, etc. IE you might get a partial/full number plate of the car that drop them off, they may have made one last phone call and you can then track that number etc.... It is a lot like having log files from a server that died, most of the time it won't tell you what crashed the thing but it will be invaluable in helping to find out the source of the problem.
I don't know how much of this is just dell hype but when i spoke to my dell account rep last about the possibility of a AMD x86_64 chip he stated two reasons why it wouldn't happen
AMD couldn't provide the necessary volume. Dell unlike apple take great pride in providing any order(from san to switches) within 4 weeks
Intel now have their own x86_64 cpu in the form of EM64 so why bother changing.
one of the things I am noticing is that people are having a general whing about how crappy the deskstar is. They are even having a go at IBM who hasn't made the drive for a couple of years now.
I am going to presume that most of you don't have access to production servers or are not SA because if you were you would know that drives from all manufactures fail regularly! When ever you buy a SAN they will give you a mean time between failures for your drives. Same thing for servers etc... Remember that is only a "mean" time which means that out of the all the disks of that model the manufacture sells over 50% will last that long, the rest could last longer or shorter.
Personally I have owned IBM (deskstar), seagate, maxtor and western digital drivers are all of them have failed at one point in time or another (the deskstar has been the most reliable).
My point is that if you rely on a HD (especially non raid), no matter what manufacture, as the only place for your important data then you deserve to lose it. At home I backup to external HD + other server. At work I have a DR(co-lo) site + tape + raid(I raid everything).
I used to work for a university in the MBA school. In order to get the best possible professors for our students we had to allow them to do consulting for large companies on the Uni's time as we couldn't afford to pay them what the going market rate was. This practice was regulated in that they could only spend 30% of their time consulting and they couldn't use any of the schools recourses (IE letter heads, websites, secretaries etc..). Now on the face of it this worked well for both parties as we got the best from industry plus the profs got the salary they had come accustom to. However, as human nature would have it, the profs got greedy and started abusing their position and students started to take notice that the very expensive course they had just paid for was suffering. So as IT we were charged with implementing all sorts of monitoring to gather evidence of these facts to weed out bad apples, otherwise the school would go bust and 100's of people would lose their job. The loss of privacy I can live with, the loss of a single mum's job because of a greed fat man I can't. If faced with that decision again, I would make the same choice in a heart beat.
There is also another good reason for this which is not entirely related to sensitive information leaving the company via company email and that is the sexual harasment/bulling. It is necessary to monitor email to limit this kind of activity before it blows up in your face. We recently did a audit of email boxes and found that 60% stored what would be considered (by law in Australia) as a offensive amount of porn that the company could be and would be held laibale for. What was worst was massive internal/external mail groups that were being sent to. I have no problem with porn (of the legal kind) just view it and send it on your own time. No one likes to see you spanking it at your desk!
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congrats, you the first logical and sane person I have heard comment on this for a long time.
Sorry but i have to disagree with you there? I tried exactly what you did and it work fine. I even clicked in the search field to force the focus there and all I had to do was tab out of it and hey presto can scroll with the arrows keys again. This is how every other page behaves for me.
Wouldn't the kids use the of internet have changed in that period of time?
Hmm if you actually read my post you would see I was not attacking him but rather i was pointing out why the general feeling on slashdot towards MS and IE is negative. For example I never told him to fix it himself, I merely pointed out that if he wanted to he could where as with IE you don't even have that choice! Is reading the post and understanding it to much to ask?
Personally I think the comments you are referring to come from a number of different factors
As for you issues with it crashing I think that is a bit personal/related to your system? Come on! you swapped to a completed different browser after little over a week of use? I personal run firefox 2 on OS X, windows XP/2000 and Linux (FC4,RHEL4u3) and have had not problems on any platform, but maybe that is just me.
I don't mean to dash your hopes but the following line from the forum you linked to seems more like what is going on
I mean come on, if google were to do something like this why would they use a public accessible app? Someone is bound to crack it one day, and google would know this. It is more likely that if they were going to provide a app like this to the CIA it would be on a private VPN/even hosted in CIA/NSA data center just for the CIA. Putting it out in public where any doffus with a firefox extension can find the information is just plan stupid.
At the moment for large complex db applications yes. I won't go through the complete list of features as oracle are more than willing to telling you in great detail.
I run postgresql, mysql and oracle in production and there are heaps of things that postgres and mysql can't do that oracle can and I use on a daily basis.
As to whether they are worth the big $$ well that really depends on features, reliability and speed to production your db/applications needs. A simple web app, like slashdot, can get away with just mysql and do really well for years (although they did have to get special modifications made in the early years from what I understand). Where as more complex, time poor development wise applications will need a db that is rock solid(99% of the time once oracle is setup properly and is maintained it will run forever and yes I know people are going to disagree with me on this one) and packed with features right out of the box.
I am not saying that OSS db's are crap they are just not at oracle's level just yet, but I can tell you that oracle is starting to feel the pain from mysql and postgresql on the small db installs.
You are kidding right? They have the second most popular browser on the face of the planet and they are releasing it live to the Internet and your expecting the general public to behave? Slashdot or not they were going to get hammered
Oh I totally agree with you, I just wish SUN, Cisco, EMC Dell etal would provide easier ways to connect/configure their machines/gear
and not conect a full size screen and monitor to a machine U39 is not a easier way
I would have a terminal server but it is not my call so we don't get the budget for one ;).
As for the usb to serial connector, I read this and it pretty much works for me. I say pretty much as some solaris install get layed out incorrectly
which has yet to be completed on the PC side (most PCs still come with COM and PARALLEL ports.. God help us all).
I am a UNIX admin and a Cisco network engineer. I configure my SUN, Linux and Cisco gear using the console. For that I need a COM port and guess what..... my fancy new macbook doesn't have a COM port so I had to go out and buy and USB COM port. So just because it is old doesn't mean it is useless. Personally it pissed me off when apple dropped everything bar USB as decent printers and world of other peripherals where hard to find for USB what didn't cost the earth.
NB in a large data center is far easier to bring a laptop with a COM port than a whole screen, keyboard and monitor. And yes KVMs fuck up all the time.
You do have a point there. But as this runs on x86 hardware whats to stop you from having a stack of spare gig network cards lying around? Hell you could have a whole redundant box for the cost of the cisco gear. We have cisco here but honestly it is _MUCH_ faster to fix things yourself than wait for those guys to get back to you (4 hours is a long time in the ISP/teleco business).
When you have a database that a) is faster than Oracle and b) supports all the features of Oracle and c) can be clustered easier than Oracle and best of all d) it does not cost $200,000 per copy
I think out of all of those reasons it is d) is the one making more than 90% of the impact on oracle's business.
Most companies are starting to realize that they don't need the 5 million features that oracle offers (and charges for). So they are looking around for something cheaper/easier to manage etc... Hell look at the number of "cut down" versions/licenses of oracle you can get now (person, standard, standard one, named user etc...). Oracle like SUN before it is starting to lose the market from the bottom up.
I run with archive logs on, as this is necessary for any sort of production database. This it allows oracle to recover from block corruptions, it also allows for "restore to point in time" type recover.
What is happening to you is that in archive logging mode on you are filling up you archive log dest and thus oracle can't create another archive log file. In archive log mode it is 100% necessary for oracle to be able to create archive logs. What it is doing is copying off the redo logs as they cycle out, if it can't create an archive log it doesn't allow that redo log file to be reused and this no DML or DDL can occur. In oracle DML happens just by login in which is why it doesn't allow anyone in other that sys (this is the only user that has the privilege to login without creating records of the login).
What you should be doing is backing up the archive logs and then delete them on regular basis. It is highly dangerous to be running a production oracle DB without archive logging mode on. One block corruption in 1 tables space and you will be heading for the tapes to get back all the data files that make up that table space.
hmm sounds like a bug to me, I would check it out on metalink etc... if necessary get oracle to release a bug fix for you.
I am Oracle DBA (RAC and single instance) and I don't know what kind of screwy setup you have going on there but there is no it should crash if the file system fills up. The worse I have seen is not be able to log into (as anyone other than sys) a database that is in archive logging mode because it can't write anymore archive log files, this is expect behaviour not crashing.
Whem my datafiles out grow their disk I just get a warning similar to "Can't extend tablespace by 8k etc...." it _doesn't_ crash.
Or if it is not hardware locked down (BIOS etc...) why not just boot knoppix and coping that way. At least this saves from you a those horrible early mornings.
Arrh no! For 2 reasons
I think for those reasons it is well worth the effort and the expense to build another alternative.
No offense but I call "bull shit" on this.
If you have every lived or been to tokyo you would know that space is at a premium(more so than new york) so the building would have had the security system refitted without even thinking about it as the land if _FAR_ more expensive than any security system would be. There is no way in hell they would let that size of building stand empty.
You definitely have a point there. Might be something taco should look into? But just remember your point always has more impact when you sign your post with your name and not just AC.
If you believe in it stand up for it don't just hide in the back ground.
Wasn't he just a suspect for a very long time? Wasn't it just the media (looking at fox) that named him the master mind before any really evidence came to light? Also remember that being suspect can really mean many different things, if I live next door to a murder and I am questioned in regards to that murder (even if it is just to ask when was the last time I saw the dead person) I am consider a suspect. Also didn't he claim to be behind the attacks really early on?
Don't you also find it very odd that this CCTV system is being proposed so closely to the London bombings? I'd imagine it'd take a while for Lockheed to put together such a bid, or to suite their technology to this particular situation. They had to have been planning this implementation for some time. Government agencies, and their contractors, are not known to be fast acting bodies. This was in the works for a while, and with the London bombings the public will finally accept/fund the program.Ya they probably have been planning on selling stuff to the govenment for ages, who wouldn't? But also if you have ever got a IT tender you would know that what the sales person says and what the actually system can do are two different things. It would only take 1-2 days to knock up a tender from a sales point of view
Terrorism is an international matter, and should be handled by the military and intelligence agencies. If they can't do the job, I'll take my risks rather than subject myself to total survelience.How do you think they are going to track these terrorist? They can't really go up to them and ask "hey can you give me a quick run down of what you have done in the last few days?" Things like CCTV, phone taps etc... which I agree encroach on our freedom are really the only way do this. A totally free country is always going to be an easy target. So we have the choice either accept the increased surveillance or accept the inevitable deaths
I don't know if you have had any experience with bodies that have been blown up but if you had you would know there is pretty much nothing left but residue.
No, it only told them what they looked like. They still had to figure out who they were, where they lived, who they had contact with, where they have travelled, etc.Having the ability to visibly to identified the bombers and then track their last couple hours/minutes of movement would go along way to finding out who they were, where they lived, who they had contact with, where they have travelled, etc. IE you might get a partial/full number plate of the car that drop them off, they may have made one last phone call and you can then track that number etc.... It is a lot like having log files from a server that died, most of the time it won't tell you what crashed the thing but it will be invaluable in helping to find out the source of the problem.
You're being lied to. Wake upone for one
You are being ignorant. Wake up.
I don't know how much of this is just dell hype but when i spoke to my dell account rep last about the possibility of a AMD x86_64 chip he stated two reasons why it wouldn't happen
one of the things I am noticing is that people are having a general whing about how crappy the deskstar is. They are even having a go at IBM who hasn't made the drive for a couple of years now.
I am going to presume that most of you don't have access to production servers or are not SA because if you were you would know that drives from all manufactures fail regularly! When ever you buy a SAN they will give you a mean time between failures for your drives. Same thing for servers etc... Remember that is only a "mean" time which means that out of the all the disks of that model the manufacture sells over 50% will last that long, the rest could last longer or shorter.
Personally I have owned IBM (deskstar), seagate, maxtor and western digital drivers are all of them have failed at one point in time or another (the deskstar has been the most reliable).
My point is that if you rely on a HD (especially non raid), no matter what manufacture, as the only place for your important data then you deserve to lose it. At home I backup to external HD + other server. At work I have a DR(co-lo) site + tape + raid(I raid everything).
I used to work for a university in the MBA school. In order to get the best possible professors for our students we had to allow them to do consulting for large companies on the Uni's time as we couldn't afford to pay them what the going market rate was. This practice was regulated in that they could only spend 30% of their time consulting and they couldn't use any of the schools recourses (IE letter heads, websites, secretaries etc..). Now on the face of it this worked well for both parties as we got the best from industry plus the profs got the salary they had come accustom to. However, as human nature would have it, the profs got greedy and started abusing their position and students started to take notice that the very expensive course they had just paid for was suffering. So as IT we were charged with implementing all sorts of monitoring to gather evidence of these facts to weed out bad apples, otherwise the school would go bust and 100's of people would lose their job. The loss of privacy I can live with, the loss of a single mum's job because of a greed fat man I can't. If faced with that decision again, I would make the same choice in a heart beat.
There is also another good reason for this which is not entirely related to sensitive information leaving the company via company email and that is the sexual harasment/bulling. It is necessary to monitor email to limit this kind of activity before it blows up in your face. We recently did a audit of email boxes and found that 60% stored what would be considered (by law in Australia) as a offensive amount of porn that the company could be and would be held laibale for. What was worst was massive internal/external mail groups that were being sent to. I have no problem with porn (of the legal kind) just view it and send it on your own time. No one likes to see you spanking it at your desk!