I total agree with you on this one.... but the last 3 companies I have worked for have blocked the major webmail servers IE yahoo, hotmail and it only took the last one 2 weeks to block gmail when it went public, so often there is no choice.
The only good reason for trackerless torrents is to prevent the **AA from shutting down infringing file sharing.
Hmm you are not think laterally here. Yes illegal downloads are obviously one of good uses for this but it is by far not the only reason.
Think of it like this, say I am small OSS project (maybe a roll your own distro etc...) that can't afford to run our own dedicated server, the only thing we can really use is free ISP website space that will only allow the host of static files(ie no tracker allowed) + I only have limited bandwidth per month. How do I get my OSS project to the masses without it costing me heaps? Simple trackerless bittorent!!
This is the problem 1000's of OSS projects face everyday (it often kills them too). It can also be applied to home made TV show distributed over the net too etc....
Now just because you can't think beyond piracy doesn't mean there are not legitimate uses for this technology.
By that logic, If I stole and striped thousands of Ford's and then pointed it out to Ford how easy it was, technically Ford should be paying me for proving how in-addequate there security is?
It is all to easy after the fact to say "hey I was just testing you security system!" Why not just come out up front and tell the IT department that "I don't trust you security and in the next few months I am going to try to break in is that OK with you." If they improve their security before you get around to trying it then you achieved what you wanted if not then you will have the green light to hack away (assuming they said yes) and you still proved your point.
Mod be down if I am wrong. But OS X is BSD based and they are getting rid of the BSD stuff (and some of their own inventions to) in favour of launchd. They are not getting rid of the SYSV stuff as they never had it to being with.
....TigerDirect, which owns trademarks on the names Tiger, TigerDirect and TigerSoftware, has requested an injunction that could prevent Friday's launch of the Tiger OS.
just don't get why you need to replace a system that can do the job that Linux can.
Well there are a number of reasons for this
End of lease, these machines could be at the end of their lease.
Cost. Traditionally dell machines with linux cost far less than there equivalents from sun + support is no where near the price sun/idm/hp charge for there "big" *nix boxes/work stations
You see these are just some of the reasons, other than technical, you might consider swapping. Before linux came about you did the same thing but with different vendors. IE if your lease with HP was up(or the machine just needed replacing full stop) you got quotes from SUN, IBM and HP. You would be stupid not too. Now with linux Dell is somebody to consider too.
*assuming NZ's patent rules are anything like the US's
Unfortunately once the free trade agreement goes into place they will be exactly the same. One of the things the US strongly enforces when approach the subject of a free trade agreement is that you accept some of their laws and the IP laws are one of them. This is basically put in place to persecute pirates according to US law but it has the side effect of allowing stupid things like this stand outside of the US.
Very few countries have the power/will to say no to a free trade agreement with the states, mainly due to the huge market the US presents, so some of the stupidness we see in the US IP law will be replicated around the world.
I am sure he still does have some good points about kernels but man has he made some whooping mistakes. This always happens we you make very broad comments with little to no information to back them up (often happens in academia). My favourite is this one
MINIX was designed to be reasonably portable, and has been ported from the Intel line to the 680x0 (Atari, Amiga, Macintosh), SPARC, and NS32016. LINUX is tied fairly closely to the 80x86. Not the way to go.
or
These things are not going to suddenly vanish. What is going to happen is that they will gradually take over from the 80x86 line. They will run old MS-DOS programs by interpreting the 80386 in software. (I even wrote my own IBM PC simulator in C, which you can get by FTP from ftp.cs.vu.nl = 192.31.231.42 in dir minix/simulator.) I think it is a gross error to design an OS for any specific architecture, since that is not going to be around all that long. Said in reference to risk chips.
I am sorry but I used to work with similar preachy academic types and I find it hard, both then and now, to take anything that say seriously.
As the saying goes "those that can do, those that can't teach" I think that works well here.
I would like to know who rated you as Interesting? You didn't even rtfa did you? Then again I am not surprised as 80% of the posts here don't seem to have done that. If you had of rtfa you would have noticed this (in this case about 10 posters have pointed this out already so you didn't even read the comments)
Under the new laws, an ISP or ICH will face penalties of $11,000 for the individual and $55,000 for body corporates if they are made aware that their service can(is) be used to access material that they have reasonable grounds to believe is child pornography or child abuse material and they do not refer details of that material to the AFP within a reasonable time.
what that means is that they don't have to monitor every customer to see if they are accessing CP, but if they are made aware that their network is being used to transport/display/store child porn they have to report it. Given that you don't have a point + you shouldn't have be rated +3 Interesting
I just installed in on my dual 1.8 power pc and the first thing I noticed when I rebooted was that I could hear the fans for the first time. For about 30 seconds they run at full speed and then settled down to their normal unaudiable selves.
organization can't afford to be without a single machine for a 2-3 hour block once a month, WTF is your plan to handle a hardware failure? Prayer?
hmm I if you need that app 24/7/365 how are you going to get time to reboot the machine? Of course if you cluster it you could but not all machines need rebooting just to function. Also DR sites are great if you have total hardware failure/power failure. I have worked many places where a shutdown is just not considered/necessary (banks, road side assistance, trading houses) and they buy their hardware to suit.
I currently work for an road side assistants company (you know the guys that come out and help if your car brakes down) and we just install GPS in all of our vans to;
Help the drivers find the sight quicker (fast turn around is paramount for us).
Track the contractors that make up 80% of our fleet at certain busy times of the year
Yes I know that point 2 seems a bit big brotherish but really we had no choice. We are not for profit organization where all the profit we generate goes back into making the service a better service and it was found that the contractors we hired during the busy seasons where making up to 60% of our costs I was also found that 70% of the contractors would find a nice shady spot to park for majority of the day and take maybe one or two jobs that day which that would later claim took up the majority of their time.
I know there are other ways to make sure they are working IE commission basis. But that turned out to be fundamentally unfair as it is was really pot luck if your sector was busy that day or not. So the only really way to make sure we where getting value for money was to track them and make sure they where doing what they claimed to be doing.
Unforuntately, Dell is in bed too long with Intel for them to add AMD to their productline.
A company the size of dell has the capacity to chop and change suppliers quite easily, just look at the harddrives the servers come with. Not one of the arrays we have ordered from dell have the same manufacturer for all the drives.
Not to mention, the corporations still count server performance by numbers marketing numbers like GHZ and AMD's processor power ratings maybe too low to be advertised correctly.
Hmm... ok where is your study into this? I order all my "corporations" data base servers from dell and not once did the "marketing" numbers come into it. Plus dell never tried to push them on us either. Most admins i know never go on the marketing numbers because the know that if the server doesn't perform as expected when it arrives it is there ass on the line.
Somebody probably has already mentioned this to you but you do know that apache does have a version 2? They are currently maintaining both the version v1 and v2 trees. Just thought I would let you know.
I am sorry and don't intend to flame you either but really where do you get some of this stuff from?
IE Solaris is a very mature product with a long history please define long history? As far as I know solaris (not sun OS) came out in the early 90's because of the issues is BSD licencing. That is not what a call a long history, IE linux was released in 1991 so i would say that are on par
alot of tech support on the web obviously you have never looked up linux.google.com or gone to sites like rhn.redhat.com?
It looks better on your resume if you say you know solaris, then it does if you say Linux....at least where I work it does. yes maybe if you work for a bank or a teleco it might (although the last bank I worked for run's linux partitions on IBM mainframes) but that is far from the general rule.
Stability. Linux is stable yes, but stable like a wine glass, not stable like a plate. What!! there is a e450 here running oracle on solaris 9 that constantly eats its self, where the dell 4600 with redhat AS 2.1 again running oracle has not died in 1.5 years and both are under the same load. My point with this that stability is not just the operating system but how you set it up and what hardware you are running IE linux normally runs on cheaper less redundant more error prone hardware so unless you are comparing the two on the same hardware you can't make that statement.
I total agree with you there. While I don't live in europe or the far east (I live in Australia) everyone I know from 12 year old to 85 (grand parents) have a modile phone, they give the dam things away! So for me the more you can get these things to do the better as it is one less thing you have to carry around/buy. Yes sure an IPOD is better at mp3 playback/selection and yes PDA offers far more functionality but what if I only have time to listen to one album on my way to work and only use the calender function for reminding me about parties/get milk etc.. so i don't need those extra features of the decated MP3 player/pda why then do I need two extra (highly expensive) devices when I can just have the one?
In that case, any student that did not want to participate in that program would not sign up, and those who did want to participate would sign up.
True but what happens to the school when the whole place gets sued because the students that opted out start P2P sharing on a large scale and are using the school's hardware to do it?
The school is doing this to protect it's self, not to offer the students anything new which you seem to think. It is kind like paying your insurance so if a building burns down you can afford to rebuild it.
I think they are happy they found it and announced it unlike some back hat hacker who would find and not announce it + use it to their own ends. I can see why they are happy can't you?
Correct me if I am wrong, but hasn't it always been this way.
What i mean is this, it is normally the one how gets to market first that milks a product for all it is worth (think DVD players 5-6 years ago). The Guys that come late and copy/purchase this idea normally only make profit buy making it cheaply and selling large numbers of the item.
or trying to defend that macos as toy comment. (which we used to call macs "beige toasters" on usenet.. that was a popular flame war that went on for years.)
What happens if I use both(Mac/Linux) on a daily basis? Does this mean I can flame myself?
Also if you are going to make general comments like that about other OS's you could really say, "Linux is only free for people who's time costs nothing"
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I total agree with you on this one.... but the last 3 companies I have worked for have blocked the major webmail servers IE yahoo, hotmail and it only took the last one 2 weeks to block gmail when it went public, so often there is no choice.
The only good reason for trackerless torrents is to prevent the **AA from shutting down infringing file sharing.
Hmm you are not think laterally here. Yes illegal downloads are obviously one of good uses for this but it is by far not the only reason.
Think of it like this, say I am small OSS project (maybe a roll your own distro etc...) that can't afford to run our own dedicated server, the only thing we can really use is free ISP website space that will only allow the host of static files(ie no tracker allowed) + I only have limited bandwidth per month. How do I get my OSS project to the masses without it costing me heaps? Simple trackerless bittorent!!
This is the problem 1000's of OSS projects face everyday (it often kills them too). It can also be applied to home made TV show distributed over the net too etc....
Now just because you can't think beyond piracy doesn't mean there are not legitimate uses for this technology.
They should be paying them not punishing them.
By that logic, If I stole and striped thousands of Ford's and then pointed it out to Ford how easy it was, technically Ford should be paying me for proving how in-addequate there security is?
It is all to easy after the fact to say "hey I was just testing you security system!" Why not just come out up front and tell the IT department that "I don't trust you security and in the next few months I am going to try to break in is that OK with you." If they improve their security before you get around to trying it then you achieved what you wanted if not then you will have the green light to hack away (assuming they said yes) and you still proved your point.
Mod be down if I am wrong. But OS X is BSD based and they are getting rid of the BSD stuff (and some of their own inventions to) in favour of launchd. They are not getting rid of the SYSV stuff as they never had it to being with.
To late I already have my copy
this is not the IA64 bit version release but the X86-64 release. A totally different beast.
This is designed to run (in 64 bit mode) with intels new (64 bit) xeon processors and AMDs x86-64 (opteron, athlon 64 etc..)
just don't get why you need to replace a system that can do the job that Linux can.
Well there are a number of reasons for this
You see these are just some of the reasons, other than technical, you might consider swapping. Before linux came about you did the same thing but with different vendors. IE if your lease with HP was up(or the machine just needed replacing full stop) you got quotes from SUN, IBM and HP. You would be stupid not too. Now with linux Dell is somebody to consider too.
*assuming NZ's patent rules are anything like the US's
Unfortunately once the free trade agreement goes into place they will be exactly the same. One of the things the US strongly enforces when approach the subject of a free trade agreement is that you accept some of their laws and the IP laws are one of them. This is basically put in place to persecute pirates according to US law but it has the side effect of allowing stupid things like this stand outside of the US.
Very few countries have the power/will to say no to a free trade agreement with the states, mainly due to the huge market the US presents, so some of the stupidness we see in the US IP law will be replicated around the world.
I am sure he still does have some good points about kernels but man has he made some whooping mistakes. This always happens we you make very broad comments with little to no information to back them up (often happens in academia). My favourite is this one
MINIX was designed to be reasonably portable, and has been ported from the Intel line to the 680x0 (Atari, Amiga, Macintosh), SPARC, and NS32016. LINUX is tied fairly closely to the 80x86. Not the way to go.
or
These things are not going to suddenly vanish. What is going to happen is that they will gradually take over from the 80x86 line. They will run old MS-DOS programs by interpreting the 80386 in software. (I even wrote my own IBM PC simulator in C, which you can get by FTP from ftp.cs.vu.nl = 192.31.231.42 in dir minix/simulator.) I think it is a gross error to design an OS for any specific architecture, since that is not going to be around all that long. Said in reference to risk chips.
I am sorry but I used to work with similar preachy academic types and I find it hard, both then and now, to take anything that say seriously.
As the saying goes "those that can do, those that can't teach" I think that works well here.
I would like to know who rated you as Interesting? You didn't even rtfa did you? Then again I am not surprised as 80% of the posts here don't seem to have done that. If you had of rtfa you would have noticed this (in this case about 10 posters have pointed this out already so you didn't even read the comments)
Under the new laws, an ISP or ICH will face penalties of $11,000 for the individual and $55,000 for body corporates if they are made aware that their service can(is) be used to access material that they have reasonable grounds to believe is child pornography or child abuse material and they do not refer details of that material to the AFP within a reasonable time.
what that means is that they don't have to monitor every customer to see if they are accessing CP, but if they are made aware that their network is being used to transport/display/store child porn they have to report it. Given that you don't have a point + you shouldn't have be rated +3 Interesting
Yep I got too, firefox puts up the bar to say that it has blocked the window but it does appear, although it takes a while for it to appear.
Ignore me I found this on apple's website which would explain it.
Resolves an issue on certain Power Mac G5 computers where a fan cycles erratically at unexpected times, such as when Seti@home software is running.
I just installed in on my dual 1.8 power pc and the first thing I noticed when I rebooted was that I could hear the fans for the first time. For about 30 seconds they run at full speed and then settled down to their normal unaudiable selves.
Anyone else notice this ?
organization can't afford to be without a single machine for a 2-3 hour block once a month, WTF is your plan to handle a hardware failure? Prayer?
hmm I if you need that app 24/7/365 how are you going to get time to reboot the machine? Of course if you cluster it you could but not all machines need rebooting just to function. Also DR sites are great if you have total hardware failure/power failure. I have worked many places where a shutdown is just not considered/necessary (banks, road side assistance, trading houses) and they buy their hardware to suit.
I would have thought that answer was simple as obvious, in that
do I really need to go on or do you get the picture now?
I currently work for an road side assistants company (you know the guys that come out and help if your car brakes down) and we just install GPS in all of our vans to;
Yes I know that point 2 seems a bit big brotherish but really we had no choice. We are not for profit organization where all the profit we generate goes back into making the service a better service and it was found that the contractors we hired during the busy seasons where making up to 60% of our costs I was also found that 70% of the contractors would find a nice shady spot to park for majority of the day and take maybe one or two jobs that day which that would later claim took up the majority of their time.
I know there are other ways to make sure they are working IE commission basis. But that turned out to be fundamentally unfair as it is was really pot luck if your sector was busy that day or not. So the only really way to make sure we where getting value for money was to track them and make sure they where doing what they claimed to be doing.
A company the size of dell has the capacity to chop and change suppliers quite easily, just look at the harddrives the servers come with. Not one of the arrays we have ordered from dell have the same manufacturer for all the drives.
Not to mention, the corporations still count server performance by numbers marketing numbers like GHZ and AMD's processor power ratings maybe too low to be advertised correctly.Hmm... ok where is your study into this? I order all my "corporations" data base servers from dell and not once did the "marketing" numbers come into it. Plus dell never tried to push them on us either. Most admins i know never go on the marketing numbers because the know that if the server doesn't perform as expected when it arrives it is there ass on the line.
Somebody probably has already mentioned this to you but you do know that apache does have a version 2? They are currently maintaining both the version v1 and v2 trees. Just thought I would let you know.
That is why you have a support contract ! Sunsupport will solve a problem like that.
Bigger deeper sigh......
......Um no they won't, they have been out 3 times and done nothing, so much for that support contract
I am sorry and don't intend to flame you either but really where do you get some of this stuff from?
IE Solaris is a very mature product with a long history please define long history? As far as I know solaris (not sun OS) came out in the early 90's because of the issues is BSD licencing. That is not what a call a long history, IE linux was released in 1991 so i would say that are on par
alot of tech support on the web obviously you have never looked up linux.google.com or gone to sites like rhn.redhat.com?
It looks better on your resume if you say you know solaris, then it does if you say Linux....at least where I work it does. yes maybe if you work for a bank or a teleco it might (although the last bank I worked for run's linux partitions on IBM mainframes) but that is far from the general rule.
Stability. Linux is stable yes, but stable like a wine glass, not stable like a plate. What!! there is a e450 here running oracle on solaris 9 that constantly eats its self, where the dell 4600 with redhat AS 2.1 again running oracle has not died in 1.5 years and both are under the same load. My point with this that stability is not just the operating system but how you set it up and what hardware you are running IE linux normally runs on cheaper less redundant more error prone hardware so unless you are comparing the two on the same hardware you can't make that statement.
I total agree with you there. While I don't live in europe or the far east (I live in Australia) everyone I know from 12 year old to 85 (grand parents) have a modile phone, they give the dam things away! So for me the more you can get these things to do the better as it is one less thing you have to carry around/buy. Yes sure an IPOD is better at mp3 playback/selection and yes PDA offers far more functionality but what if I only have time to listen to one album on my way to work and only use the calender function for reminding me about parties/get milk etc.. so i don't need those extra features of the decated MP3 player/pda why then do I need two extra (highly expensive) devices when I can just have the one?
In that case, any student that did not want to participate in that program would not sign up, and those who did want to participate would sign up.
True but what happens to the school when the whole place gets sued because the students that opted out start P2P sharing on a large scale and are using the school's hardware to do it?
The school is doing this to protect it's self, not to offer the students anything new which you seem to think. It is kind like paying your insurance so if a building burns down you can afford to rebuild it.
I think they are happy they found it and announced it unlike some back hat hacker who would find and not announce it + use it to their own ends. I can see why they are happy can't you?
Correct me if I am wrong, but hasn't it always been this way.
What i mean is this, it is normally the one how gets to market first that milks a product for all it is worth (think DVD players 5-6 years ago). The Guys that come late and copy/purchase this idea normally only make profit buy making it cheaply and selling large numbers of the item.
or trying to defend that macos as toy comment. (which we used to call macs "beige toasters" on usenet.. that was a popular flame war that went on for years.)
What happens if I use both(Mac/Linux) on a daily basis? Does this mean I can flame myself?
Also if you are going to make general comments like that about other OS's you could really say, "Linux is only free for people who's time costs nothing"