You'd probably get awarded your SRB's or something... No wings on a spacecraft. Well, apart from a Shuttle. And technically that's a wing, not wings... Oh come on, I must have typed past the 20 seconds limit by now...
You know what, what you've written not only makes sense, but has also convinced me a little... Everything apart from the "living x000 miles away, why should I care" statement, but careful pummelling will challenge that;)
Actually, I'm speaking from experience - a school did get several hundred free copies of MSVS.net Web Edition or something - no they didn't get Windows or Office for free, they had to pay ~£50 per machine for that, but basically MS made them sign an agreement that said they could have this software on the condition that they ran no Operating System but Windows and no Office Suite but MSOfficeXP for a period of 3 years. I found out about this because one of the Deputy Headmasters asked me about saving money replacing a server that was stolen, and I had to advise him to look elsewhere.
Ok, sorry about the photography thing - I didn't see the word colour, never mind;)
To other things though, I don't think America is a bad place, a lot of Americans are great people, but your Political system and the way that corporations have so much power over the people is just plain wrong. I'm not saying we have it right, but at least all of our major political parties agree on the need for a National Free Health Service, regardless of how shitty it is.
Neither do I think that the British invented everything - we invented quite a bit, sure, but it's mainly other countries that invented the useful things in life, and generally didn't suceed in publicising them - we Europeans seem to be very bad at that...
I think the thing that annoys me most is the US Governments stance on nuclear weapons - your country is the only country to have ever used a nuclear weapon on people, yet it seems to control the worlds nuclear policies, regardless of the IAEA... Hopefully now after the cold war, we might see your people see patriotism for the thing it is - sack o'crap. Scary thing is, patriotism is on the up in the UK:S
Oh, and supersonic flight - Chuck Yeager's team stole the British's design - we had a working design long before the US, but you guys stole it... Sorry! No idea about digital audio - but that's a REALLY bad idea anyway, from my point of view - have we not got a polluted enough spectrum as it is?
I think the most important detractor of OSS such as OpenOffice is that although it does the same job, it has great difficulty saving other file formats, such as Excel. People mark it down because of that.
Noone looks at the reverse angle though - MS can't open ANY OO.o documents... let alone save them!
That's not my interpretation of Open Source. What you are describing is Free Software. Open Source means that anyone can ask for the source code and get it. Free Software means that once you have the software, you are free to modify it and distribute derivatives of that software, negating the sales of the previous product.
Open Source does not mean free (as in beer) - it means free (as in speech). I would have thought someone would have drilled that into you by now...
Integrated circuits - Geoffrey Dummer of the British MoD, 1952! Nuclear power - Yeah, whatever - Hahn, Meitner and Strassner? Germans, 1938. Radar that actually works (heh heh) - The British. Not only did it work, but it won us WW1. Nuclear magnetic resonance imaging and chemical analysis - Sir Peter Mansfield - British... Color photography - French, 1826. Liquid crystal displays - DERA (UK) 60's. Assless leather chaps - Roman Empire? Lightbulbs - Thought you might fall for that one. Davy (Brit) invented the first, Heinrich Göbel invented the first modern design, Edison was after both of these... Long distance telegraphy, telephone and THE INTERNET (thank you, Al!) - Telephone was by an Italian, long range networks first developed... in the UK. Television (sorry!) - Logie Baird if you must (Scottish) or Paul Gottlieb Nipkow if you want to be specific. AC power distribution grid - What??? Nikola Tesla! Graphical user interfaces - forgetting the UK Radar light pen vector graphics system? Vacuum cleaner - British, turn of the century. Adhesive tape - 1937, London, UK. Airbags - Originally used in a British Airplane in the 40s Air conditioning - Faraday in the UK, or possibly Persia, 3000 years ago. The artificial heart - Thought this was South Africa, although that might be the first transplant... Information theory and data compression - Genuinely don't know this one. You may be right on that. The first working airplane - Nope, Italian by 50 years. You had the first "controlled powered flight of more than 50 feet". That's a world record, not an invention;)
Sorry, the US generally brings things to commercial success, prior art... Well, lets leave it at that;)
I am not renting Microsoft's system. They are providing a service contract to maintain my software - from my (and lots of others) point of view, that software is mine to do with as I please, so long as I do not distribute it, therefore depriving Microsoft of revenue.
I have a moral right to alter their product if I want, otherwise why would I be able to write device drivers for their system? That fundamentally alters the functionality of their OS, let I can't look at the kernel that it latches onto.
I never return the software to MS (can't if I wanted to) and so I basically own that software or I have the sue of that software with the understanding that they could demand its return at any time - which is correct?
The OS is open with all these fancy tools such as an API and a HAL and what not, but that's not good enough. What if I find out that there is a bug in the kernel that means that if my machine is called Orpheus, the system crashes after an hour? Not likely, but what if it did? Microsoft are not going to fix it just for me, so I could fix it myself.
As others have said, the likelihood of someone fixing it is miniscule, but look at Linux, the likelihood of someone fixing that is less than 1%, and yet so many people do. If it's available, someone will look. Maybe not you, maybe not me, but someone will, and they might make it better for all of us.
I didn't realise that... In the UK you have a legal right to the blueprints, and in fact even if you don't own the house, you can request the plans at your local planning office or at the local council.
Mark Thomas famously got the plans to Margaret Thatcher's house and pointed out where the "vault" was =)
Yes you do have a moral right! I should have the right to see where I can find the spark plugs, the oil top up cap, the radiator top up cap etc - ok, they're fairly easy to find, but I should have that information freely. Ok, I may not have a moral right to know how they were researched, built and so on, but I should have a right to tinker with it as I so please. In the computer world, you generally don't have the right to do that without having access to the source code, so I judge them as going hand in hand.
No, you've missed the point of my message - they ARE forcing it upon them. What they say is "here, have our software for free!" which is good, what they then say is "under the condition that you never use a non-ms environment or OSS on your campus!" That means they can't use alternatives like Linux, even for servers, or they can't use GIMP, or any number of things that would benefit them. That may be normal business practice, but it's morally wrong.
I think you've gone a bit too far there, the reason why I and a lot of the Open Source community dislike Microsoft (although not to the point of hatred, admittedly I use Windows when there isn't a viable Linux alternative) is the simple fact that I completely disagree with their business practices.
Bill Gates, regardless of the wonderful things he's done for AIDS research and the like (regardless of his motives, he could have chosen any crappy project, but this was a smart move) he and his company are complete arseholes when it comes to code. If a programme is buggy, there are two choices - you can fix it yourself, or you can get someone else to fix it. Noone else is going to fix it unless it benefits them, and the vast majority of the time, it never benefits Microsoft. Without access to the source code, I can't fix those bugs, I can't make the product better for me, and I don't have access to something I have not just a moral right to, but what should be a legal right to as well. It's akin to buying a house and not being able to change the light bulbs or put an extension on without asking the original architect for his permission.
Microsoft aren't also bastards from a software source code point of view, but also in dodgy business practices, mainly involving bribing schools (ok, harsh word, but that's how I see it) with free software to use their products, and not teach the kids about software alternatives.
What about the purchase of companies who are potential competitors in a field (such as the legendary Amiga programme, Bars and Pipes) and then to shut them down, just so that the competition has no way of surviving - regardless of its superior technology (it took more than 5 years for MS to catch up with Amiga)
Microsoft also seem to be bastards when it comes to software patents, but that's for another discussion;)
Believe it or not, Microsoft will fail. The only way MS will fail is if someone brings out a better product, and if MS buy those products before they reach commercial success, then they win. But if those products can't be bought, or are restricted development due to the GPL - they lose. The GPL is fairly shitty, but I prefer it tenfold to what we have atm.
Ok, let's re-analyse my post - I said that Americans are responsible for the commercialisation of products invented elsewhere in the world... Things you mention:
Computers - invented by Charles Babbage, or the electronic version was invented during World War II at Bletchley Park... By a team of Brits.
CP/M? That's not even an invention, there were OS's of almost comparable quality before then, true, it was a massive advancement, but I hardly call it a radical invention, more a variation/improvement on an already established idea.
Nikola Tesla is recognised as having invented Radio communication, although I believe you're right in saying that Edwin Armstrong invented the regenerative circuit - I will have to concede that point. Radar was a British invention, just to point out.
Steam Engine? STEAM ENGINE??? It's 2000 years old, invented by a Greek, I think it was Heron of Alexandria, I can't remember exactly. The US probably brought it to commercial success though =)
Transistor - I thought William Shotley was English, turns out he was only born in London, then moved later in life. Technically a US invention, I suppose...
Vacuum tubes - Nikola Tesla. 5 years before he set foot in America, says Wikipedia.
Plastic? Alexander Parkes. Birmingham, England. (just a co-incidence so many from UK here, not indicitive of real world statistics) And big funny hats? What? I genuinely have no idea what you are talking about - Queen's Guard perhaps? No plastic there...
Nylon - I thought that was a joint US-UK venture, done in a Chemistry lab by accident. Wikipedia tells me otherwise. I'll have to give you that one... Although it was a complete fluke of a discovery =) (troh-holl!)
Peanut Butter? Australian. I can't find any evidence to counter this, but I haven't checked far - but I know that the Ozzies lay claim to that one.
The list doesn't go on. Really, the US have not invented much - things are just brought into commercial success. It's not saying you don't spend enough on R&D, it's basically saying - stop claiming you invented everything you daft bastards! =)
Oh, and condensed milk - turns out that although an American invented it, it was done in England;)
Actually, when you look at it, the only discernable things that an American actually invented was Condensed Milk, everything else was just commercialised by them. Light bulb, radio, telephone, killing stuff with guns - all foreign inventions that were brought to commercial success in the US...
Sorry, forgot - Military satellites need "servicing" maybe they wouldn't need scrapping;) I think 30% of the Shuttle's flights were for Military services like changing film in the camera looking at Herr Schroeder's Lunchbox...
Errr... Ok, whatever you say. It's a great idea, but completely unfeasible. Satellites have three main features that mean a movable space garage is useless (or at least incredibly expensive to run, fuel-wise):
Satellites can be at different locations. If my satellite in stationary orbit needs fixing, positioned at 30 degW, and your garage has just been used to fix something at 30 degE, how are you going to get it 60 degrees around? If you speed it up, it will only go higher as well as faster.
Satellites can be in different orbits - to transfer from LEO where the ISS is to stationary orbit uses a HELL of a lot of fuel, one is at 200 miles up, one is at 20000 miles up...
Satellites generally can't be repaired cheaply. The only exceptions have been things like the Hubble, which just required a mirror correcting lens being installed, most satellites would probably be scrapped when they break.
In counterpoint, KC-135's need to retired. They're great at re-fuelling jobs, but they're dangerous when it comes to flying cargo somewhere fast - any pilot of one will tell you about the coffin zone, where your stall limit is 5-10 knots below you, and your limiting mach number is.01 above you. Slightly faster and you are past Vne and you break it. Slightly slower and you stall, nose goes down, you go faster, you break it.
If only they'd buy a few Baluga's or something - but then that wouldn't be US home-made equipment - something that IMO is a crap idea to have in an international community...
Also, we may use a 30 year old communication protocol, but there is a replacement for TCP in development that not only increases speed, but also reduces latency for mobile systems, something that needs to addressed... Telephones are over a century old, correct, but aren't we starting to swap over to VOIP as opposed to VOPSTN?
And finally, the car... Sure, the basic design of a car hasn't changed a great deal, but we have fuel injectors now instead or carburretors, streamlined vehicles instead of boxes on wheels, run-on-flat tires (albeit only on the new expensive models), vehicle diagnostic systems, you don't have to double declutch (ok, not a problem for most Americans, but us Europeans, that's a bonus), and best of all, motorised retractable aerials;)
The basic designs may not change, but the gubbins inside are always changing...
I use Pegasus on my Windows system, and a mix of KMail and mutt on my Linux system. Pegasus is by far the best mailer for me, as I get a lot of junk that needs sifting through quickly (AFTER junk filtration) and in fact I prefer it to any other PIM - the telephone message function is quite handy too.
The only disbenefit is the IMAP functionality - whilst it is getting the IMAP login/folders etc, the systen freezes, annoying when you have 40 folders and it takes ~5 seconds.
Ummm... Linus Torvalds invented the name Linux. It was originally called Freax, correct, but Linus used the name Linux at home, and never used it because he thought it was too egotistical - I believe it was the FTP maintainer who thought Freax was a crap name and asked him if he had any others...
I fully agree - Assembly does a lot of good work for the Demo community, and some of the 64K intros, and the about to begin demo competition is excellent - very high standard.
Although I would say that - I'm the fat ginger Brit that presents a lot of ASMTV... =)
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You'd probably get awarded your SRB's or something... No wings on a spacecraft. Well, apart from a Shuttle. And technically that's a wing, not wings... Oh come on, I must have typed past the 20 seconds limit by now...
You know what, what you've written not only makes sense, but has also convinced me a little... Everything apart from the "living x000 miles away, why should I care" statement, but careful pummelling will challenge that ;)
Actually, I'm speaking from experience - a school did get several hundred free copies of MSVS .net Web Edition or something - no they didn't get Windows or Office for free, they had to pay ~£50 per machine for that, but basically MS made them sign an agreement that said they could have this software on the condition that they ran no Operating System but Windows and no Office Suite but MSOfficeXP for a period of 3 years. I found out about this because one of the Deputy Headmasters asked me about saving money replacing a server that was stolen, and I had to advise him to look elsewhere.
Ok, sorry about the photography thing - I didn't see the word colour, never mind ;)
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To other things though, I don't think America is a bad place, a lot of Americans are great people, but your Political system and the way that corporations have so much power over the people is just plain wrong. I'm not saying we have it right, but at least all of our major political parties agree on the need for a National Free Health Service, regardless of how shitty it is.
Neither do I think that the British invented everything - we invented quite a bit, sure, but it's mainly other countries that invented the useful things in life, and generally didn't suceed in publicising them - we Europeans seem to be very bad at that...
I think the thing that annoys me most is the US Governments stance on nuclear weapons - your country is the only country to have ever used a nuclear weapon on people, yet it seems to control the worlds nuclear policies, regardless of the IAEA... Hopefully now after the cold war, we might see your people see patriotism for the thing it is - sack o'crap. Scary thing is, patriotism is on the up in the UK
Oh, and supersonic flight - Chuck Yeager's team stole the British's design - we had a working design long before the US, but you guys stole it... Sorry! No idea about digital audio - but that's a REALLY bad idea anyway, from my point of view - have we not got a polluted enough spectrum as it is?
I think the most important detractor of OSS such as OpenOffice is that although it does the same job, it has great difficulty saving other file formats, such as Excel. People mark it down because of that.
Noone looks at the reverse angle though - MS can't open ANY OO.o documents... let alone save them!
That's not my interpretation of Open Source. What you are describing is Free Software. Open Source means that anyone can ask for the source code and get it. Free Software means that once you have the software, you are free to modify it and distribute derivatives of that software, negating the sales of the previous product.
Open Source does not mean free (as in beer) - it means free (as in speech). I would have thought someone would have drilled that into you by now...
Integrated circuits - Geoffrey Dummer of the British MoD, 1952! ;)
;)
Nuclear power - Yeah, whatever - Hahn, Meitner and Strassner? Germans, 1938.
Radar that actually works (heh heh) - The British. Not only did it work, but it won us WW1.
Nuclear magnetic resonance imaging and chemical analysis - Sir Peter Mansfield - British...
Color photography - French, 1826.
Liquid crystal displays - DERA (UK) 60's.
Assless leather chaps - Roman Empire?
Lightbulbs - Thought you might fall for that one. Davy (Brit) invented the first, Heinrich Göbel invented the first modern design, Edison was after both of these...
Long distance telegraphy, telephone and THE INTERNET (thank you, Al!) - Telephone was by an Italian, long range networks first developed... in the UK.
Television (sorry!) - Logie Baird if you must (Scottish) or Paul Gottlieb Nipkow if you want to be specific.
AC power distribution grid - What??? Nikola Tesla!
Graphical user interfaces - forgetting the UK Radar light pen vector graphics system?
Vacuum cleaner - British, turn of the century.
Adhesive tape - 1937, London, UK.
Airbags - Originally used in a British Airplane in the 40s
Air conditioning - Faraday in the UK, or possibly Persia, 3000 years ago.
The artificial heart - Thought this was South Africa, although that might be the first transplant...
Information theory and data compression - Genuinely don't know this one. You may be right on that.
The first working airplane - Nope, Italian by 50 years. You had the first "controlled powered flight of more than 50 feet". That's a world record, not an invention
Sorry, the US generally brings things to commercial success, prior art... Well, lets leave it at that
I am not renting Microsoft's system. They are providing a service contract to maintain my software - from my (and lots of others) point of view, that software is mine to do with as I please, so long as I do not distribute it, therefore depriving Microsoft of revenue.
I have a moral right to alter their product if I want, otherwise why would I be able to write device drivers for their system? That fundamentally alters the functionality of their OS, let I can't look at the kernel that it latches onto.
I never return the software to MS (can't if I wanted to) and so I basically own that software or I have the sue of that software with the understanding that they could demand its return at any time - which is correct?
How charming ;)
The OS is open with all these fancy tools such as an API and a HAL and what not, but that's not good enough. What if I find out that there is a bug in the kernel that means that if my machine is called Orpheus, the system crashes after an hour? Not likely, but what if it did? Microsoft are not going to fix it just for me, so I could fix it myself.
As others have said, the likelihood of someone fixing it is miniscule, but look at Linux, the likelihood of someone fixing that is less than 1%, and yet so many people do. If it's available, someone will look. Maybe not you, maybe not me, but someone will, and they might make it better for all of us.
I didn't realise that... In the UK you have a legal right to the blueprints, and in fact even if you don't own the house, you can request the plans at your local planning office or at the local council.
Mark Thomas famously got the plans to Margaret Thatcher's house and pointed out where the "vault" was =)
Yes you do have a moral right! I should have the right to see where I can find the spark plugs, the oil top up cap, the radiator top up cap etc - ok, they're fairly easy to find, but I should have that information freely. Ok, I may not have a moral right to know how they were researched, built and so on, but I should have a right to tinker with it as I so please. In the computer world, you generally don't have the right to do that without having access to the source code, so I judge them as going hand in hand.
No, you've missed the point of my message - they ARE forcing it upon them. What they say is "here, have our software for free!" which is good, what they then say is "under the condition that you never use a non-ms environment or OSS on your campus!" That means they can't use alternatives like Linux, even for servers, or they can't use GIMP, or any number of things that would benefit them. That may be normal business practice, but it's morally wrong.
I think you've gone a bit too far there, the reason why I and a lot of the Open Source community dislike Microsoft (although not to the point of hatred, admittedly I use Windows when there isn't a viable Linux alternative) is the simple fact that I completely disagree with their business practices.
;)
Bill Gates, regardless of the wonderful things he's done for AIDS research and the like (regardless of his motives, he could have chosen any crappy project, but this was a smart move) he and his company are complete arseholes when it comes to code. If a programme is buggy, there are two choices - you can fix it yourself, or you can get someone else to fix it. Noone else is going to fix it unless it benefits them, and the vast majority of the time, it never benefits Microsoft. Without access to the source code, I can't fix those bugs, I can't make the product better for me, and I don't have access to something I have not just a moral right to, but what should be a legal right to as well. It's akin to buying a house and not being able to change the light bulbs or put an extension on without asking the original architect for his permission.
Microsoft aren't also bastards from a software source code point of view, but also in dodgy business practices, mainly involving bribing schools (ok, harsh word, but that's how I see it) with free software to use their products, and not teach the kids about software alternatives.
What about the purchase of companies who are potential competitors in a field (such as the legendary Amiga programme, Bars and Pipes) and then to shut them down, just so that the competition has no way of surviving - regardless of its superior technology (it took more than 5 years for MS to catch up with Amiga)
Microsoft also seem to be bastards when it comes to software patents, but that's for another discussion
Believe it or not, Microsoft will fail. The only way MS will fail is if someone brings out a better product, and if MS buy those products before they reach commercial success, then they win. But if those products can't be bought, or are restricted development due to the GPL - they lose. The GPL is fairly shitty, but I prefer it tenfold to what we have atm.
My lack of historical motor vehicle knowledge (or at last prior to the 50's) shows its weakness ;)
Ooooh... My attempt at trolling worked ;)
;)
Ok, let's re-analyse my post - I said that Americans are responsible for the commercialisation of products invented elsewhere in the world... Things you mention:
Computers - invented by Charles Babbage, or the electronic version was invented during World War II at Bletchley Park... By a team of Brits.
CP/M? That's not even an invention, there were OS's of almost comparable quality before then, true, it was a massive advancement, but I hardly call it a radical invention, more a variation/improvement on an already established idea.
Nikola Tesla is recognised as having invented Radio communication, although I believe you're right in saying that Edwin Armstrong invented the regenerative circuit - I will have to concede that point. Radar was a British invention, just to point out.
Steam Engine? STEAM ENGINE??? It's 2000 years old, invented by a Greek, I think it was Heron of Alexandria, I can't remember exactly. The US probably brought it to commercial success though =)
Transistor - I thought William Shotley was English, turns out he was only born in London, then moved later in life. Technically a US invention, I suppose...
Vacuum tubes - Nikola Tesla. 5 years before he set foot in America, says Wikipedia.
Plastic? Alexander Parkes. Birmingham, England. (just a co-incidence so many from UK here, not indicitive of real world statistics) And big funny hats? What? I genuinely have no idea what you are talking about - Queen's Guard perhaps? No plastic there...
Nylon - I thought that was a joint US-UK venture, done in a Chemistry lab by accident. Wikipedia tells me otherwise. I'll have to give you that one... Although it was a complete fluke of a discovery =) (troh-holl!)
Peanut Butter? Australian. I can't find any evidence to counter this, but I haven't checked far - but I know that the Ozzies lay claim to that one.
The list doesn't go on. Really, the US have not invented much - things are just brought into commercial success. It's not saying you don't spend enough on R&D, it's basically saying - stop claiming you invented everything you daft bastards! =)
Oh, and condensed milk - turns out that although an American invented it, it was done in England
You realise that really is going to be my tagline from now on... =)
Ok, not in the mainstream though... Until about 1960, almost all cars were aerodynamically inefficient, save the elite. I see your point though.
Actually, when you look at it, the only discernable things that an American actually invented was Condensed Milk, everything else was just commercialised by them. Light bulb, radio, telephone, killing stuff with guns - all foreign inventions that were brought to commercial success in the US...
Sorry, forgot - Military satellites need "servicing" maybe they wouldn't need scrapping ;) I think 30% of the Shuttle's flights were for Military services like changing film in the camera looking at Herr Schroeder's Lunchbox...
Errr... Ok, whatever you say. It's a great idea, but completely unfeasible. Satellites have three main features that mean a movable space garage is useless (or at least incredibly expensive to run, fuel-wise):
Satellites can be at different locations. If my satellite in stationary orbit needs fixing, positioned at 30 degW, and your garage has just been used to fix something at 30 degE, how are you going to get it 60 degrees around? If you speed it up, it will only go higher as well as faster.
Satellites can be in different orbits - to transfer from LEO where the ISS is to stationary orbit uses a HELL of a lot of fuel, one is at 200 miles up, one is at 20000 miles up...
Satellites generally can't be repaired cheaply. The only exceptions have been things like the Hubble, which just required a mirror correcting lens being installed, most satellites would probably be scrapped when they break.
Nice idea, but just not practical. =(
In counterpoint, KC-135's need to retired. They're great at re-fuelling jobs, but they're dangerous when it comes to flying cargo somewhere fast - any pilot of one will tell you about the coffin zone, where your stall limit is 5-10 knots below you, and your limiting mach number is .01 above you. Slightly faster and you are past Vne and you break it. Slightly slower and you stall, nose goes down, you go faster, you break it.
;)
If only they'd buy a few Baluga's or something - but then that wouldn't be US home-made equipment - something that IMO is a crap idea to have in an international community...
Also, we may use a 30 year old communication protocol, but there is a replacement for TCP in development that not only increases speed, but also reduces latency for mobile systems, something that needs to addressed... Telephones are over a century old, correct, but aren't we starting to swap over to VOIP as opposed to VOPSTN?
And finally, the car... Sure, the basic design of a car hasn't changed a great deal, but we have fuel injectors now instead or carburretors, streamlined vehicles instead of boxes on wheels, run-on-flat tires (albeit only on the new expensive models), vehicle diagnostic systems, you don't have to double declutch (ok, not a problem for most Americans, but us Europeans, that's a bonus), and best of all, motorised retractable aerials
The basic designs may not change, but the gubbins inside are always changing...
I use Pegasus on my Windows system, and a mix of KMail and mutt on my Linux system. Pegasus is by far the best mailer for me, as I get a lot of junk that needs sifting through quickly (AFTER junk filtration) and in fact I prefer it to any other PIM - the telephone message function is quite handy too.
The only disbenefit is the IMAP functionality - whilst it is getting the IMAP login/folders etc, the systen freezes, annoying when you have 40 folders and it takes ~5 seconds.
Ah. Crap. It's the Welsh speaking bugger. Well, either I'm right, or I need to go borrow Linus' book from the library again...
Ummm... Linus Torvalds invented the name Linux. It was originally called Freax, correct, but Linus used the name Linux at home, and never used it because he thought it was too egotistical - I believe it was the FTP maintainer who thought Freax was a crap name and asked him if he had any others...
I fully agree - Assembly does a lot of good work for the Demo community, and some of the 64K intros, and the about to begin demo competition is excellent - very high standard.
Although I would say that - I'm the fat ginger Brit that presents a lot of ASMTV... =)