Saddam isn't taking over anything except
what he already has. If you want a war of
liberation then proclaim it loud and clear
and don't use it as a means to bolster
a sagging economy, and/or pretend that the other
nations in the world are sluggish naysayers.
The truth of the matter is the story we get from
washington on why we are at war changes from day
to day in terms of motivity and this admin has
serious credibility problems in the first place.
Your hitlerian comparison is not remotely on target here.
The UN decides how UN mandates are pursued, not
member nations.
It's funny how bush's propaganda department is
so eager now to embrace the will of the UN SC
(as embodied in the various resolutions) as long as they are doing the interpretation and
can use the wording as a moral bulwark for their aggressive policy.
Great job..way to sock it to saddam. Unfortunately, you forgot about the fact that the US had plenty of time to deal with him the first time. Also there are quite a few people just doing their duty over there that will die now because bush has a wild hair up his ass.
A moderated 'five' for what is basically an
attack on tcl deserves no less.
I am sorry if you feel there was a personal
attack rather than a deep disgust with your
fairly vulgar sentiment.
I'm not going to discuss a development experience(ars-digita), or your experience
with older versions of tcl or aol's bastard
web/tcl mix
I will talk about upvar though.
If you find yourself losing reference to
variables that are being refernced indis
criminately by the rest of your team, it
is a development problem.
There should be guidelines.
Tcl has plenty of power to avoid this given
that it is treated seriously, and not like a
a shell script.
If you feel that there is a problem with upvar references: I will agree. I have had a few
problems with it.
There are some clever workarounds: including
a limited loop by level for the name
reference,wrapped with catch, that gets around
bad programming and planning.
There are also namespaces. I don't understand
why they weren't being used to iron out your
difficulties.
In any case congratulations on trashing tcl
publicly and with considerable success.
What exactly don't you like about tcl 8.4?
You don't like an event loop, a vfs, and easy
command oriented syntax?
Oh, you were talking 12 years ago and tcl 7.6
right?
Don't get me talking about Perl 12 years ago.
What a non-topic that would be huh?
Actually tcl has a very nice event loop,an incredibly introspective interpreter, easily understandable and readable syntax, a very nice
set of utility packages, and expect.
Personally, I don't think you know enough about
tcl to fill a thimble, but are another slashdrone
in a frenzy.
Prove me wrong. Let's see your miserable tcl
code.
You're trolling right?
Since when has anyones head been screwed on t
ight after 9/11 with the continual barrage of inflammatory nonsense being pounded into our
heads contrary to evidence?
I'd imagine there is a real danger of a proposition like this being passed and this is
a litmus test that may, or may not, have been "leaked".
I cannot fathom the minds that put this shit together.
Going to the moon is absolutely NOT a dead end.
The moon is a prerequisite for any sophisticated
exploration of the solar system.
1)A launch and construction facility based on the moon in it's weak gravity facilitates further exploration rather than trapping it behind
absurd $$ figures for each pound of cargo that
has to be lifted from earth's gravity well.
2) A semi-permanent site on the moon pushes
the space program towards a deeper commitment
to exploration and provides much needed know-
how on dealing with the hazards of deep spaceflight and living in vacuum.
3)The moon could provide residents with
a high percentage of the resources they need
to live given experimentation and new
methodology that only exposure to the
environment will bring about.
Trying to economically bring resources from the earth into space and planning for extraplanetary
adventures like Mars without any experience is
demonstrably painful and expensive.
He should have written that section with help
from the expect::pm, or better yet write the whole
thing in expect. I started to do this years ago
but realized the horrible insecurity after some tests and gave it up. He at least could have used ssh with expect...
The books vary wildly in quality, but basically are all worth reading if you find yourself liking any of them. That's not high praise I know...but KEW created a really unique anti-conan type and was, like REH, a better storyteller than author. I was sad to find out he died back in 9?. His collaboration with David Drake on Killer is decent too..
I can understand this. All admins have this experience when working in a shop full of programmers. One way to solve things is to make it very transparent for the programmers to perform routine transactions. cgi interfaces are something everybody likes and usually can be adapted easily.
Please. You are a very nasty seeming individual.
I will try to explain.
A sandbox is a machine you use to prepare and
test ideas to be used on production machines.
Perhaps the idea is new to you. But I would
suggest it if you would like to go to the next level.
I daresay I have worked in very diverse and
fairly large environments. I have nothing to
prove, except what is obvious: Either you know
about what I'm talking, or you may get angry
and defensive.
If you have anything reasonable to say and would like to continue without profanity and nastiness
I will respond, otherwise this is just a waste of
energy.
If you are a good/excellent admin you don't worry about messing up a production machine through
coding or application specific blunders.
In short you will have to be content worrying
about security updates, and making things easier
for your users and yourself,and possibly
contributing to the global bugfix community.
Your ignorance is showing when you talk about
scripting and scripting applications.
Do you even know what expect does/is?
One thing is certainly obvious:
People who know one thing think they know it
all. Just because you have root doesn't mean
you deserve it.
I disagree with your pronouncement on what
constitutes "code". In essence all interpreted
languages are reduced to your definition of
code finally, so the degree of separation you
and others find between scripting languages and compiled/low level languages is very fine.
According to your assessment java programming
is not coding, which is fine but I believe that
many programmers would disagree.
I'll restate more emphatically:
If you cannot script in the shell (and possibly
perl or expect/tcl), if you do not know how a compiler and make works, you are possibly a
competent network/hardware jockey, but you are
not a good *nix admin and will never be one.
Finally,if you read the want ads for *nix administrators there are vanishingly few
descriptions that want someone without
scripting knowledge, for excellent reason.
There is always application for this kind of knowledge.
If you don't know how to code then you are not a good linux or any *nix admin.
That's the sad and sorry truth. You may be competent, but you are definitely not good.
Certifications get you exactly squat in a flat
market.
It's all about who you know, how you know them,
and your experience(maybe).
If you are a CCIE you may be in a certification
niche where certs are noticed.
Otherwise you are a dime a dozen.
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Great job..way to sock it to saddam.
Unfortunately, you forgot about the fact that
the US had plenty of time to deal with him
the first time.
Also there are quite a few people just doing
their duty over there that will die now because
bush has a wild hair up his ass.
I'm moving to montana and raising dental floss.
Maybe they would be preaching anal love.. Truthfully, it sounds like your bag.
Code it like a recent college graduate. You get a linked list and every 'x' interations have it loop back on NULL. That's a fix.
WTF are you talking about: Using Xp as a server? Are you completely lunchless or have you a lunch?
That's what I thought.
Try here: http://www.tcl.tk/software/tcltk/8.4.html
What you think of as limitations allow an
unusual degree of flexibility.
When's the last time you coded anything in tcl/tk?
Just curious to see how far out in the shit sea
you are.
Actually tcl has a very nice event loop,an incredibly introspective interpreter, easily understandable and readable syntax, a very nice set of utility packages, and expect. Personally, I don't think you know enough about tcl to fill a thimble, but are another slashdrone in a frenzy. Prove me wrong. Let's see your miserable tcl code.
Dude, you are righteous!
I remember the flick, but forget the name.
The wizard-of-the-oz in the library meltdown
movie.
Anyway, the novel and the movie don't even
vaguely coinicde as one is cybered out and
the other future-reality imposed.
Now go out and get laid.
I know that some peoples "fuck" is anothers trite, but some fucks are better than others. Unfortunately, you are,IMO, right..this is raw sewage.
You're trolling right? Since when has anyones head been screwed on t ight after 9/11 with the continual barrage of inflammatory nonsense being pounded into our heads contrary to evidence? I'd imagine there is a real danger of a proposition like this being passed and this is a litmus test that may, or may not, have been "leaked". I cannot fathom the minds that put this shit together.
The books vary wildly in quality, but basically
are all worth reading if you find yourself liking
any of them.
That's not high praise I know...but KEW created
a really unique anti-conan type and was, like REH,
a better storyteller than author.
I was sad to find out he died back in 9?.
His collaboration with David Drake on Killer is
decent too..
I can understand this.
All admins have this experience when working in
a shop full of programmers.
One way to solve things is to make it very transparent for the programmers to perform
routine transactions.
cgi interfaces are something everybody likes and
usually can be adapted easily.
If you don't know how to code then you are not a good linux or any *nix admin. That's the sad and sorry truth. You may be competent, but you are definitely not good.
One Word: Talent. Another Word: Frank Zappa
Mod this up.
Everyone except perlphuques know tcl rocks.