Let's say you have a picture of your partner on your desk. You might be told that personal pictures are "inappropriate"... even though others have pictures of their wives or husbands on their desks. You might be passed over for promotion, get your hours cut, or fired for "poor performance" or "poor attitude."
Actually, you can [fire / pass over for promotion / cut the hours of] anyone that IS covered under existing law for "poor performance" or "poor attitude". You can fire anyone if you really want to, regardless of anti-discrimination law. Its just a question of how you do it.
Also, depending on how small your business is (25 employees?), these laws don't necessarily apply to you anyways.
I GUESS the idea is this: Imagine you're a small business. You can't discriminate based on sexual orientation / sex / race / religion / age, and the community around you basically puts you out of business. Now Microsoft could survive a small town boycott, but Bob's Automotive may not be able to.
Aye, and what's this... the "hole-hawg" example? Now I know I've seen this in some other authors book. Was it Neal Stephenson's "In the Beginning was the Command Line"? I think so!
I would never say that Opera is LESS than FF. I've never even used it. Sorry, I thought I pointed that out.
As for the rest, I was mostly looking for examples of why I should consider spending $40 on a browser. I think it ought to have something I can't live without, since nobody I know has ever paid for a browser before. Again, not to say that they SHOULDN'T, just that they haven't.
Someone else posted about a page resizing feature that sounds really slick. Also, I like the sound of faster cold start and render times. I just don't know if it justifies a $40 purchase.
Like? I just haven't had anything, base install or extension, b0rk out on me yet.
Multiline, expandable links toolbar that can also hold drop-down folders.
I have folders and subfolders in my links toolbar, and it wasn't provided by any of my extensions. Is that what you meant? AFAIK, it won't go multiline though... that would be nice on a machine with more display realestate.
As for the extensions I have, they're limited to the most common ones, which don't come from untrusted sources. All of them are tried and true. I also like that I choose which ones I want, instead of just having a bunch chosen for me. That's just a plus for me, not a minus. I would like to see the more advanced adblocking built in by default though.
The other feature in Opera I'm interested in is the resizing. As I said in another post though, I'm not sure I can justify $40 for that.
I've never had a problem with any of my plugins, and they get updated in two clicks.
I've never had a problem with getting the content I wanted with adblockers on. The one inconvenience I do have is that my flashblock requires me to manually start any flash on a page, but that's kinda the point.
And if it did block my the rare site's content, I'd consider it net gain considering all the crap I DID want to block.
I'm not trashing Opera, I've never been compelled to try it, I'm just curious about what I might be missing.
Hm, I don't tend to frequent sites that go that far out of whack... but the small-screen rendering sounds like it could be handy on the laptop (800x600). I'm not sure if that justifies buying a browser (something I've never done) for $40.
Tiny download size, yet filled up with useful features that are actually smoothly integrated and work together in a coherent manner, rather than being tacked onto the browser.
So none of these features are optional? That would be a turn-off for me, I think.
I've never had a problem with upgrading firefox, but quite possibly I can thank package maintainers for that.
As for the dependancy hell, I have to say, I've never hunted down a dependancy for anything in firefox. Perhaps that has to do with which extensions I have.
I think I'd consider trying Opera out if it was free (as in beer) and I wasn't hearing how bad the ad-blocking is.
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Having tried Firefox, and having used Opera for a long time, I can honestly say that yes, it is worth it to pay for a nice bundled browser package, even if you could jerry-rig a free browser to have most of the same functionality. I'm willing to bet that a few years from now, Opera will still be around. I have my doubts about Firefox.
Last I checked, Opera had about 1/23rd of FF's users. I dunno, maybe that's off... but I think Firefox has passed the flash-in-the-pan stage.
As for the rest, I'm not trying to start a flamewar, but what does Opera have that I would really want in my Firefox? I mean, from your experience, what does Firefox really lack that makes a browser worth paying cash for?
I think you're spot-on with the new, better format. On the other hand, apps like OOo HAVE to have good MS Office support for now. Yeah,.doc may blow, but we ARE playing their game, like it or not. And we're really not going to win people over by removing features, even if they do seem like goofy features.
The press release fails to point out that the demonstration was an abysmal failure and not even the wasteful spendthrifts from the pentagon were interested in putting in an order. Film at eleven.
Get out, TWO bogus/. articles in a row?! First OSS zealots are gunna sue my company for using Bob's GPL'd Fontpack in our quarterly reports, and now we have a bajillion dollar satellite system that doesn't work. Great readin' guys, keep it comin!
1. invent technology 2. apply for patent 3. show technology to microsoft (who then copies said technology) 4. sue microsoft for infringing on patent 5. wait for buyout settlement 6. PROFIT!
Six steps?! wtf?! My delusions of successful three-step business management have been quashed.
we're currently bogged down in crap down here. It's time for humans to just get more intelligent about things
The funny part of this is that people often think we'll escape what they don't like about society here, by just leaving.
If your opinions aren't properly represented on earth, what makes you think it will be any different just because you're in space? I think we ought to work on making earth a nice place, THEN worry about how well we can manage ourselves in space colonies.
Living in space won't make you happy and free. Learning to make a difference here will.
From what I understand, this is both true, and tradgic. A lady who used to cut my hair in the heart of Illinois was a highly educated civil engineer, and came here because there just wasn't any work.
Another guy I know of was a physicist, working part time at a shoe store doing inventory counts. The poor guy was reorganizing the warehouse and even reworking the inventory system to be more efficient, just because he was so terribly bored and wanted to do a good job.
Its a damned shame that such bright people can't exercise their skills and talents in an equitable way.
I don't know what's scarier: That he'd say something like that, or that there's probably a couple hundred million Americans who would nod their heads in "understanding".
I say this as someone who could sometimes be considered an apologist for typical post 9/11 paranoia:
This makes me want to puke.
I have a certain amount of tolerance for tightened security, sometimes even at the expense of some personal freedom (I know thats not a popular opinion here). But this... I want to punch this man in the face for grasping at a ready excuse for what was clearly a terrible screw-up.
Sounds very similar to a story I heard on April fools day. A guy modified just one guys hosts file at work to point requests for the company website to a server on his laptop. He then posted a terribly hacked version of the company page. The man came running to his cubicle, completely freaked out.
That's it! I'm going to the local junkyard. I'll put bright red "idiot lights" from the dash of an old minivan on the side of my mom's monitor. When the little red "VIRUS" light pops on (and stays on, until [dealer] reset), she'll know to take it to a [mechanic].
We just have to take the warnings off the screen... then they'll pay attention.
"They're only doing their job" is never an argument: unethical practice is not magically justified or even mitigated by being paid for it. If anything I'd say the opposite is in fact true.
If what you meant was, individual agents shouldn't break the law, then I agree with you entirely. If you mean they shouldn't do anything we might consider unethical, even if its the law, then I might disagree a bit.
I tend to think we should strive to change laws we believe are wrong, not complain about FBI agents who carry out the law.
I think its important that FBI agents aren't making their own laws in the course of duty. Its our job to make the law, using our elected officials.
we have panels for everyone from the beginner to the l33t h4x0r
Based on my experience, those considering themselves "l33t h4x0rs" are beginners.
That is, of course, true. However, I think it was meant to be a light hearted reference for people who remember when goofballs talked like that and meant it. I'm reasonably sure these guys know the difference between "h4xx0r" and hacker.:)
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Let's say you have a picture of your partner on your desk. You might be told that personal pictures are "inappropriate"... even though others have pictures of their wives or husbands on their desks. You might be passed over for promotion, get your hours cut, or fired for "poor performance" or "poor attitude."
Actually, you can [fire / pass over for promotion / cut the hours of] anyone that IS covered under existing law for "poor performance" or "poor attitude". You can fire anyone if you really want to, regardless of anti-discrimination law. Its just a question of how you do it.
Also, depending on how small your business is (25 employees?), these laws don't necessarily apply to you anyways.
I GUESS the idea is this:
Imagine you're a small business. You can't discriminate based on sexual orientation / sex / race / religion / age, and the community around you basically puts you out of business. Now Microsoft could survive a small town boycott, but Bob's Automotive may not be able to.
Aye, and what's this... the "hole-hawg" example? Now I know I've seen this in some other authors book. Was it Neal Stephenson's "In the Beginning was the Command Line"? I think so!
Yeah, you think that's scary? I just noticed this. I dunno how long this has been around, but I think someone has a sense of humor.
I would never say that Opera is LESS than FF. I've never even used it. Sorry, I thought I pointed that out.
As for the rest, I was mostly looking for examples of why I should consider spending $40 on a browser. I think it ought to have something I can't live without, since nobody I know has ever paid for a browser before. Again, not to say that they SHOULDN'T, just that they haven't.
Someone else posted about a page resizing feature that sounds really slick. Also, I like the sound of faster cold start and render times. I just don't know if it justifies a $40 purchase.
So uh, will my case rust if I DON'T pour beer in it?
Features that aren't buggy as hell, a la Firefox.
Like? I just haven't had anything, base install or extension, b0rk out on me yet.
Multiline, expandable links toolbar that can also hold drop-down folders.
I have folders and subfolders in my links toolbar, and it wasn't provided by any of my extensions. Is that what you meant? AFAIK, it won't go multiline though... that would be nice on a machine with more display realestate.
As for the extensions I have, they're limited to the most common ones, which don't come from untrusted sources. All of them are tried and true. I also like that I choose which ones I want, instead of just having a bunch chosen for me. That's just a plus for me, not a minus. I would like to see the more advanced adblocking built in by default though.
The other feature in Opera I'm interested in is the resizing. As I said in another post though, I'm not sure I can justify $40 for that.
I've never had a problem with any of my plugins, and they get updated in two clicks.
I've never had a problem with getting the content I wanted with adblockers on. The one inconvenience I do have is that my flashblock requires me to manually start any flash on a page, but that's kinda the point.
And if it did block my the rare site's content, I'd consider it net gain considering all the crap I DID want to block.
I'm not trashing Opera, I've never been compelled to try it, I'm just curious about what I might be missing.
Hm, I don't tend to frequent sites that go that far out of whack... but the small-screen rendering sounds like it could be handy on the laptop (800x600). I'm not sure if that justifies buying a browser (something I've never done) for $40.
Tiny download size, yet filled up with useful features that are actually smoothly integrated and work together in a coherent manner, rather than being tacked onto the browser.
So none of these features are optional? That would be a turn-off for me, I think.
I've never had a problem with upgrading firefox, but quite possibly I can thank package maintainers for that.
As for the dependancy hell, I have to say, I've never hunted down a dependancy for anything in firefox. Perhaps that has to do with which extensions I have.
I think I'd consider trying Opera out if it was free (as in beer) and I wasn't hearing how bad the ad-blocking is.
Having tried Firefox, and having used Opera for a long time, I can honestly say that yes, it is worth it to pay for a nice bundled browser package, even if you could jerry-rig a free browser to have most of the same functionality. I'm willing to bet that a few years from now, Opera will still be around. I have my doubts about Firefox.
Last I checked, Opera had about 1/23rd of FF's users. I dunno, maybe that's off... but I think Firefox has passed the flash-in-the-pan stage.
As for the rest, I'm not trying to start a flamewar, but what does Opera have that I would really want in my Firefox? I mean, from your experience, what does Firefox really lack that makes a browser worth paying cash for?
I think you're spot-on with the new, better format. On the other hand, apps like OOo HAVE to have good MS Office support for now. Yeah,
I am not so sure that Canada's collectives want to "kill the download
industry"
I think Canada's collectives want to assimilate us and fit us with various technological improvements, like unhinged heads. Resistance is futile.
My apologies to the Canadians, I couldn't help it. Much love!
The press release fails to point out that the demonstration was an abysmal failure and not even the wasteful spendthrifts from the pentagon were interested in putting in an order. Film at eleven.
/. articles in a row?! First OSS zealots are gunna sue my company for using Bob's GPL'd Fontpack in our quarterly reports, and now we have a bajillion dollar satellite system that doesn't work. Great readin' guys, keep it comin!
Get out, TWO bogus
1. invent technology
2. apply for patent
3. show technology to microsoft (who then copies said technology)
4. sue microsoft for infringing on patent
5. wait for buyout settlement
6. PROFIT!
Six steps?! wtf?!
My delusions of successful three-step business management have been quashed.
we're currently bogged down in crap down here. It's time for humans to just get more intelligent about things
The funny part of this is that people often think we'll escape what they don't like about society here, by just leaving.
If your opinions aren't properly represented on earth, what makes you think it will be any different just because you're in space? I think we ought to work on making earth a nice place, THEN worry about how well we can manage ourselves in space colonies.
Living in space won't make you happy and free. Learning to make a difference here will.
From what I understand, this is both true, and tradgic. A lady who used to cut my hair in the heart of Illinois was a highly educated civil engineer, and came here because there just wasn't any work.
Another guy I know of was a physicist, working part time at a shoe store doing inventory counts. The poor guy was reorganizing the warehouse and even reworking the inventory system to be more efficient, just because he was so terribly bored and wanted to do a good job.
Its a damned shame that such bright people can't exercise their skills and talents in an equitable way.
I don't know what's scarier: That he'd say something like that, or that there's probably a couple hundred million Americans who would nod their heads in "understanding".
I say this as someone who could sometimes be considered an apologist for typical post 9/11 paranoia:
This makes me want to puke.
I have a certain amount of tolerance for tightened security, sometimes even at the expense of some personal freedom (I know thats not a popular opinion here). But this... I want to punch this man in the face for grasping at a ready excuse for what was clearly a terrible screw-up.
I guess because its really expensive to start from scratch? I'm with you though... time for a clean start.
From the summary: Pictures were sent to the manufacturer who decided that it is too small to be worrisome.
I say, tell that to the astronauts who have to sit on top of the goddamn thing.
Sounds very similar to a story I heard on April fools day. A guy modified just one guys hosts file at work to point requests for the company website to a server on his laptop. He then posted a terribly hacked version of the company page. The man came running to his cubicle, completely freaked out.
Exactly what I was thinking. Why do all the math? The answer is 42.
It should be his job to bronze it and its tracks. Some day the tracks can be a pedestrian trail. Ok, well maybe flag it off until we start building.
As a lvl 2k Chaotic Druid, I take offense to your comment, and will be summoning demons to eat your soul.
Beware my 20 sided die, for my aim is sharp and my masturbation arm is strong!
I'm just kidding. I'm with yah. My masturbation arm IS strong though.
That's it! I'm going to the local junkyard. I'll put bright red "idiot lights" from the dash of an old minivan on the side of my mom's monitor. When the little red "VIRUS" light pops on (and stays on, until [dealer] reset), she'll know to take it to a [mechanic].
We just have to take the warnings off the screen... then they'll pay attention.
"They're only doing their job" is never an argument: unethical practice is not magically justified or even mitigated by being paid for it. If anything I'd say the opposite is in fact true.
If what you meant was, individual agents shouldn't break the law, then I agree with you entirely. If you mean they shouldn't do anything we might consider unethical, even if its the law, then I might disagree a bit.
I tend to think we should strive to change laws we believe are wrong, not complain about FBI agents who carry out the law.
I think its important that FBI agents aren't making their own laws in the course of duty. Its our job to make the law, using our elected officials.
we have panels for everyone from the beginner to the l33t h4x0r
:)
Based on my experience, those considering themselves "l33t h4x0rs" are beginners.
That is, of course, true. However, I think it was meant to be a light hearted reference for people who remember when goofballs talked like that and meant it. I'm reasonably sure these guys know the difference between "h4xx0r" and hacker.