London cabbies have a distinct advantage over their American counterparts. They finished laying out all the roads in London shortly after the Romans left. By default he doesn't have to learn anything new:p
Of course the system of laying them out and naming them is only known to the madman that created them. Finding your way around on the English roadways is definitely a skill based on good memory and a lot of experience (getting lost a dozen times).
"Street signs telling you what road you are on, straight roads, uniquely named roads that don't change names every 1/4 mile or so, bah! Now what would be the sense in all of that? Sounds like a bunch of rubbish an American would come up with.
:D
It's all in good fun. British drivers are some of the best I've ever seen. I do have a theory though. Where it looks like all the slow drivers here in the UK all hang out in the proper lane on the motorways not blocking faster traffic, it's only because all slow drivers like to hang out in the left lane reguardless of which country they live in. It just happens to work out for the best here since in the UK the slow lane is the left lane.
Yes it's alot easier to find particular places in American cities that are laid out in grids. I don't think I've seen a single straight road since I moved to England this past summer.:D You get used to it after a while.
Let me know when hard drives + bandwidth are as cheap as a little round piece of plastic with a metallic coating. HD's are already alot cheaper than a DVD's in space, money, and transfer time. The only advantage a DVD has is once it's scratched up it makes a nice coaster or frisbee.
Oh yeah HD are already available, are continuously being upgraded and are not made by any companies that end in -ONY, which will always make them cheaper overall.
The only way DVD's are currently cheaper than HD is in price, but there are many things more valuable than money, such as time and convience. Try crunching the numbers on how many DVD's would be needed to replace 1TB of harddrive space and what that would take up in physical space, not to mention the shear amount of time needed to burn them.
Sorry DVD's don't even come close and things such as Blue Ray aren't even available in any real quantities. When they are they are even more expensive than HD's for the media, much less cost of the player.
So exactly how are little pieces of plastic cheaper than HD again?
Stop imagining, it's already happening now. I've set up over 20 media computers this year for friends. Just did one today, and have three more that are waiting for me to come over and show them how it's done.
Even outside of the PC things are happening in the now. The next gen Tivo's are on the way, that are not only set up to record scheduled shows, but download and store on demand content as well.
The new format war was already being won while HD-DVD and Blue-ray were still in the crib. I can see media centers going mainstream once 1TB drives hit the $200 mark sometime next year.
:D Yep it is sad that ISP's still lag behind station wagons and the US Postal Service in terms of bandwidth. Sure the ping and the latency is hell, but boy do you get to drink from the fire hose once the packet (package) get's there.
It's amazing how many HD you can fit in a Priority Mail flat rate box. $9 to "upload" 5 terabytes of data in three days time. 1 thousand movies or 1 billion songs or just one Blue Ray rip of the Lord of the Rings Trilligy with all the special features.;)
HD/DVD Blue Ray players or compliant, monitors, video cards
I'd like either of them if they just simply came out with a ROM for the computer. Who wouldn't want that much space on a disk. Makes it even easier to mail then a HD.
As for HD content, as soon as someone comes up with a good none DRM player and ripper, I'll be all over that.
If not then the HD baby should be smothered in it's crib before it has a chance to grow up.
Yeah but the British team is going to go around to the left and end up getting in a head on with a HUMVEE
For those of you unintiated to the wonders of British driving, anyone that tells you to get a right hand drive car to "help" you get into things more quickly should be punched in the throat. Drving on the left hand side of the road, in a right hand, manual car, traffic circles, and all the signs being unfarmiliar makes you feel like you are dislexic and sixteen again.
The first week of driving in the UK was more than a little stress full. The 20 minute drive home would leave me completely worn out. The first time I came to a double traffic circle with 3 branch intersections attached to them (Imagine eight streets coming together in one spot.) my brain just about melted.
I'll admit I love traffic circles now because they mean two things, no stop lights and no stop signs and you only have to worry about traffic coming from your right. Also if your co-pilot sucks you just do a few donuts around it till you get back to the turn off you want. Down side is they clog up real easy when traffic picks up.
I give props to the British for being top notch drivers, well trained, polite, don't camp out in the fast lane going slow, and decisive. Of course that's because the road system will eat you alive if you are poor driver. Only the strong will survive!
Yes and no. Go look up the District in the Wikipedia. The District of Columbia is a type of territory and is not a state. The local people didn't even get to vote for president until 1961 and up until recently had no representatives in Congress, even so the ones that they do have now are non-voting so they no power.
The Morton Grove case appealed to the US Supreme court yes, but they refused to hear it and referred it back to the State Courts.
The US COnstituion is the supreme law of the land, but there are limits placed in it to keep the Federal Government out of local affairs. It also puts restraints on the states so they can't deny certain things to their citizen, such as deneying voting and freedom of speach. Things start to get squirly with things like guns and such because each state has it's own constitution which is similar too but different from the US Constitution. Unless it says otherwise in the US Constitution they have to yield to the State Constitution. So what it ammounts to in the case of firearms, the Federal Government cannot pass any laws banning firearms, only the States can, and in their case of the State Constitution may prevent this as well. For Illinois it specifically does let local governments pass laws.
A few years ago the Federal goverment had the assualt weapons ban, but all that really ment was that you could not import assualt weapons from outside the US, but there was nothing that said you couldn't actually own or or buy a new one if it was obtained locally. States like California did pass a ban, but again that was only in California.
It gets weirder in the District of Columbia, because Congress can pass local laws and has complete control over the District. The US Constitution differs to local government, but in this case the local government is the Federal government, see why this is so crazy? If the ban is struct down there are alot of other things that will have to be struct down too in the way Congress runs things in the District.
The Supreme Power in the US is the State and Local governments when it comes to everything not spelled out specifically in the US Constituion. If people get fed up enough with the Federal Government they can pull the rug out from under them. Right now though the arrangement between the States and the Federal governements with funding has allowed things to grow beyond what they Constitution allows for.
Don't be a dumb ass, that hand gun ban was not a handgun ban in all of Illinois, it was a single town in Illinois. All the fuss was not whether or not it was illegal to own fire arms but whether or not local governments could pass laws banning them. The state constitution of Illinois has provisions in it that let local municipalities do just that, that is why the US Supreme Court refused to get involved. Which is exactly what they are supposed to do while the State courts hash things out. Most every one these days are opperating under the false assumption that the federal government is all powerfull. In most cases they get trumped by State's rights and the original aggreements those states made before joining the union, again exactly why the Federal government decided to butt out of the argument.
They are absolutely correct when saying the 2nd Ammendment applies only to the members of the militia, of course the silly bastards keep forgetting exactly what the militia is. It's not the National Guard, never has been, never will be.
The militia is made up traditionally of all able bodied men, that are NOT in the ARMY.
Throw in some women's lib and then suddenly the militia suddenly includes just about every person in the country that can hold a weapon.
The word "regulated" in the case of soldiers and militia means well trained, so what the Constitution is saying if you are not out with your buddies training with your guns on the weekends, then you are a piss poor citizen.
They can spin it every which way they want, trying to change the definitions, but their is well over a hundred years of precidence of militia, so they'll just end up loosing every time.
Actually that's not exactly true. The District of Columbia is controlled by Congress. While the people do elect the local government, Congress can over ride the local government and any law they choose. The Tenth Amendment is amendment does not apply in the District of Columbia, which limits Congresses powers to only those spelled out in the Constitution. The people of the Disctrict of Columbia do not have any elected representatives in Congress, so in other words they have no real say what so every in the functions of the local government.
The second amendment
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
They are absolutley correct in saying that only memebers of the militia should have weapons. The only place their argument falls appart is the fact that the militia is more or less every able bodied person that is not in the army. So not only does the constitution protect the right to bear arms by Joe Blow Sixpack it says that it is a necessity that Joe Blow go train on the weekends with the militia.
civilians trained as soldiers but not part of the regular army
the entire body of physically fit civilians eligible by law for military service
The part that I think they find very scary is that by the Constitution the average citizen can not only arm themselves but form an army in defense of their community that is completely outside government control. As long as they don't go criminal there is not a damn thing anyone could do about it. It would definitely put a funny spin on things if gangs stopped being thugs and actually protected their communities.
I think people are actually getting sick of the blue led everything. It's almost like XTREME marketing.
People don't understand it, and if they did, they certainly are not going be willing to bring a wheel barrel full of money to the electronics store that you'll need for the equipment to play it, the movies themselves, and the HD 1080p tv's that for the most part are not even available in most stores. Those things that have the $2500+ price tag on them are not considered TV's by most of the sane world.
It'll be two or three years before the price will drop enough that people might be interested, that is a LONG time in the world of technology. On the other hand a little company by the name of Tivo is about to sneak in and eat their lunch, dinner, and breakfast. People understand Tivo's you hook it up and click on the menu and when your show comes on it records it. Play back is just as simple. Well harddrives are big and cheap NOW and the next generation of TV's are on their way. So instead of just recording your show when it comes on, instead you just select the show and when it's available to downloads straight to your box as soon as it's available. You know what it also happens to look quite good on the other, other HD format 768p which happens to be what you get 90% of the time when you walk into a store and request a HD TV. Again it's available now, and it's affordable now. The magic of it all Tivo could easily offer a 1080i or 1080p solution without any change in what the customers sees and the way it works as well as incorporate all those bigger and bigger harddrives that are available.
So pretty much the format war was already over before HD-DVD and Blue-ray even got started. If they had half a brain cell they'd hurry up and release the burners and media to computer users before they become ilrelevant. Oops too late. Already have an external harddrive that is 10x bigger than anything they offer and the 20x ones will be available in a few short months.
And then the fan boys crawl out from under a rock...
I will be gracious and conceed that a clean install on like hardware OSX probably loads faster than XP, though the difference is less than 60 seconds.
In practicality though it's no faster than XP. I have noticed that OSX crawls to the starting line under the load of widgets and other software that my girlfriend insists that she can't live without on startup.
Apple can work all they want on the OS, but it's still up to the user to actually put all that good work to use.
Haha, I thought I was the only one using my computer as a space heater. Might as well since heat is heat, and I too run protein-folding in the background. Unlike yours though, mine is very quiet. I switched to a Zalman Resorator (external water cooling) last year and you can barely hear the single remaining fan and the water pump.
It's not that single men under aren't adults, it's just that a great many don't want to act like adults.:D I know I didn't. Hell I'm 35 now and I still don't want to act like an adult.
Generally what I've noticed seperates the men from the boys, is not maturity, but the definition of cool and how much they really care about it.
Example: I have collected a wide variety of music borrowing CD's and ripping them. Sooner or later my collection comes under inspection from people from work and all the younger guys are dismayed at some of the (uncool) things in there while the older guys are jazzed that I have a lot of music that they like.
2nd Example: I am currently looking for a brand new car. I would love to get a new truck or SUV to replace my loyal Tacoma, I was thinking either a crew cab Tacoma, FJ cruiser, or the new Jeep Unlimited, but my reality is that I now live in England after moving from the deserts of California where such vehicles would have done fine. England has some of the smallest roads you've ever seen and parking can be quite the premium. I have to fold my mirrors and still barely have any clearance to get into my garage, so I've started looking at small cars, in particular the Mini. Again all the younger guys are dismayed at the "gayness" of my choice. Of course unlike them I can actually afford to buy the loaded version which with all the extras, which turns the Mini into a low level, terrain following cruise missile, lot's of fun and hardly gay. As with the music, the older guys in the shop think it's a kick-ass idea.
In the past I've noticed most, not all, younger guys wouldn't be caught dead buying a game cube, or any of the previous Nintendo offers, as they we're "kid's games". That was until they were over at a friend's house and got sucked into a few crazy rounds of drunk Mario cart and other Mario games. The orgins of these purchases usually either for their kids or for or by the wife/girlfriend. It was after the fact playing a few games with their loved ones that they suddenly realized hey these are some pretty kick-ass games, and in turn got their single friends to join in on the fun.
Well it seems that you had the the minimal common sense to produce your ID instead of provoking a fight.
As for the rest I've known plenty of police officers and none of them behaived the way you described, so many people are pro-cop for very good reasons too.
If the police were indeed criminals, then why have no charges been filed by the kid against the arresting officers then? The first thing his lawyer did was file a lawsuit, not criminal charges against the police.
That says alot about the whole incident and the kid in particular. If you can't see this whole bad situation for what it is, then oh well I don't think I'll anything else I can say will change your mind.
Watching the video again it never shows one way or the other on whether or not he was leaving, but I'll conceed that he was probably leaving as most people do when the threat of the police showing up becomes reality.
They were probably trying to arrest him for tresspass or at a bare minimum question him, but he immediately went into theatrics, which the video does clearly show, and also was trying to whip up the crowd, which he did manage to do. He wasn't being passive at all. He was putting up quite a bit of fight during the whole incident. Most people who resist arrest wear themselves out pretty quick and have to stop and rest before starting up again. That's what I saw in the video. He was not doing the classic body limp 60's student protest tactic. The kid had an axe to grind, he claimed he was being racially profiled and was fighting the whole situation. The poor dumb bastard actually did have his ID card on him but refused to show it.
I have noticed that 99% of people on here who think it unnecessary are either not US citizens and those that are, are college students. We'll just leave it at that.
Would I have tasered the man 3-5 times (the various articles all differ on the number of times he was.), but then that is the convience of being an arm chair spectator, diassociated with the incident viewing it after the fact. The police did not have that luxury, all they knew was that they had an unruly, hostile person in a building full of students. So maybe he got more than he deserved, but that doesn't suddenly make the man an innocent victim and the police criminals. The man brought the whole thing on himself.
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Of course the system of laying them out and naming them is only known to the madman that created them. Finding your way around on the English roadways is definitely a skill based on good memory and a lot of experience (getting lost a dozen times).
"Street signs telling you what road you are on, straight roads, uniquely named roads that don't change names every 1/4 mile or so, bah! Now what would be the sense in all of that? Sounds like a bunch of rubbish an American would come up with.
It's all in good fun. British drivers are some of the best I've ever seen. I do have a theory though. Where it looks like all the slow drivers here in the UK all hang out in the proper lane on the motorways not blocking faster traffic, it's only because all slow drivers like to hang out in the left lane reguardless of which country they live in. It just happens to work out for the best here since in the UK the slow lane is the left lane.
Yes it's alot easier to find particular places in American cities that are laid out in grids. I don't think I've seen a single straight road since I moved to England this past summer. :D You get used to it after a while.
Oh yeah HD are already available, are continuously being upgraded and are not made by any companies that end in -ONY, which will always make them cheaper overall.
The only way DVD's are currently cheaper than HD is in price, but there are many things more valuable than money, such as time and convience. Try crunching the numbers on how many DVD's would be needed to replace 1TB of harddrive space and what that would take up in physical space, not to mention the shear amount of time needed to burn them.
Sorry DVD's don't even come close and things such as Blue Ray aren't even available in any real quantities. When they are they are even more expensive than HD's for the media, much less cost of the player.
So exactly how are little pieces of plastic cheaper than HD again?
Even outside of the PC things are happening in the now. The next gen Tivo's are on the way, that are not only set up to record scheduled shows, but download and store on demand content as well.
The new format war was already being won while HD-DVD and Blue-ray were still in the crib. I can see media centers going mainstream once 1TB drives hit the $200 mark sometime next year.
It's amazing how many HD you can fit in a Priority Mail flat rate box. $9 to "upload" 5 terabytes of data in three days time. 1 thousand movies or 1 billion songs or just one Blue Ray rip of the Lord of the Rings Trilligy with all the special features. ;)
HD/DVD Blue Ray players or compliant, monitors, video cards
I'd like either of them if they just simply came out with a ROM for the computer. Who wouldn't want that much space on a disk. Makes it even easier to mail then a HD.
As for HD content, as soon as someone comes up with a good none DRM player and ripper, I'll be all over that.
If not then the HD baby should be smothered in it's crib before it has a chance to grow up.
It doesn't get much easier than that.
CD > rip yes
Itunes/online music services NO
DVD > rip yes
Online movie crippleware NO
HD/DVD Blueray NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO!
Vista for improved software and Dx10 gaming yes
Vista for DRM'ed media content delivery NO
Illegal downloading NO (I prefer mailing 500gb harddrives back and forth with friends)
For those of you unintiated to the wonders of British driving, anyone that tells you to get a right hand drive car to "help" you get into things more quickly should be punched in the throat. Drving on the left hand side of the road, in a right hand, manual car, traffic circles, and all the signs being unfarmiliar makes you feel like you are dislexic and sixteen again.
The first week of driving in the UK was more than a little stress full. The 20 minute drive home would leave me completely worn out. The first time I came to a double traffic circle with 3 branch intersections attached to them (Imagine eight streets coming together in one spot.) my brain just about melted.
I'll admit I love traffic circles now because they mean two things, no stop lights and no stop signs and you only have to worry about traffic coming from your right. Also if your co-pilot sucks you just do a few donuts around it till you get back to the turn off you want. Down side is they clog up real easy when traffic picks up.
I give props to the British for being top notch drivers, well trained, polite, don't camp out in the fast lane going slow, and decisive. Of course that's because the road system will eat you alive if you are poor driver. Only the strong will survive!
The Morton Grove case appealed to the US Supreme court yes, but they refused to hear it and referred it back to the State Courts.
The US COnstituion is the supreme law of the land, but there are limits placed in it to keep the Federal Government out of local affairs. It also puts restraints on the states so they can't deny certain things to their citizen, such as deneying voting and freedom of speach. Things start to get squirly with things like guns and such because each state has it's own constitution which is similar too but different from the US Constitution. Unless it says otherwise in the US Constitution they have to yield to the State Constitution. So what it ammounts to in the case of firearms, the Federal Government cannot pass any laws banning firearms, only the States can, and in their case of the State Constitution may prevent this as well. For Illinois it specifically does let local governments pass laws.
A few years ago the Federal goverment had the assualt weapons ban, but all that really ment was that you could not import assualt weapons from outside the US, but there was nothing that said you couldn't actually own or or buy a new one if it was obtained locally. States like California did pass a ban, but again that was only in California.
It gets weirder in the District of Columbia, because Congress can pass local laws and has complete control over the District. The US Constitution differs to local government, but in this case the local government is the Federal government, see why this is so crazy? If the ban is struct down there are alot of other things that will have to be struct down too in the way Congress runs things in the District.
The Supreme Power in the US is the State and Local governments when it comes to everything not spelled out specifically in the US Constituion. If people get fed up enough with the Federal Government they can pull the rug out from under them. Right now though the arrangement between the States and the Federal governements with funding has allowed things to grow beyond what they Constitution allows for.
Don't be a dumb ass, that hand gun ban was not a handgun ban in all of Illinois, it was a single town in Illinois. All the fuss was not whether or not it was illegal to own fire arms but whether or not local governments could pass laws banning them. The state constitution of Illinois has provisions in it that let local municipalities do just that, that is why the US Supreme Court refused to get involved. Which is exactly what they are supposed to do while the State courts hash things out. Most every one these days are opperating under the false assumption that the federal government is all powerfull. In most cases they get trumped by State's rights and the original aggreements those states made before joining the union, again exactly why the Federal government decided to butt out of the argument.
The militia is made up traditionally of all able bodied men, that are NOT in the ARMY.
Throw in some women's lib and then suddenly the militia suddenly includes just about every person in the country that can hold a weapon.
The word "regulated" in the case of soldiers and militia means well trained, so what the Constitution is saying if you are not out with your buddies training with your guns on the weekends, then you are a piss poor citizen.
They can spin it every which way they want, trying to change the definitions, but their is well over a hundred years of precidence of militia, so they'll just end up loosing every time.
Actually that's not exactly true. The District of Columbia is controlled by Congress. While the people do elect the local government, Congress can over ride the local government and any law they choose. The Tenth Amendment is amendment does not apply in the District of Columbia, which limits Congresses powers to only those spelled out in the Constitution. The people of the Disctrict of Columbia do not have any elected representatives in Congress, so in other words they have no real say what so every in the functions of the local government.
They are absolutley correct in saying that only memebers of the militia should have weapons. The only place their argument falls appart is the fact that the militia is more or less every able bodied person that is not in the army. So not only does the constitution protect the right to bear arms by Joe Blow Sixpack it says that it is a necessity that Joe Blow go train on the weekends with the militia.
civilians trained as soldiers but not part of the regular armythe entire body of physically fit civilians eligible by law for military service
The part that I think they find very scary is that by the Constitution the average citizen can not only arm themselves but form an army in defense of their community that is completely outside government control. As long as they don't go criminal there is not a damn thing anyone could do about it. It would definitely put a funny spin on things if gangs stopped being thugs and actually protected their communities.
I think people are actually getting sick of the blue led everything. It's almost like XTREME marketing.
People don't understand it, and if they did, they certainly are not going be willing to bring a wheel barrel full of money to the electronics store that you'll need for the equipment to play it, the movies themselves, and the HD 1080p tv's that for the most part are not even available in most stores. Those things that have the $2500+ price tag on them are not considered TV's by most of the sane world.
It'll be two or three years before the price will drop enough that people might be interested, that is a LONG time in the world of technology. On the other hand a little company by the name of Tivo is about to sneak in and eat their lunch, dinner, and breakfast. People understand Tivo's you hook it up and click on the menu and when your show comes on it records it. Play back is just as simple. Well harddrives are big and cheap NOW and the next generation of TV's are on their way. So instead of just recording your show when it comes on, instead you just select the show and when it's available to downloads straight to your box as soon as it's available. You know what it also happens to look quite good on the other, other HD format 768p which happens to be what you get 90% of the time when you walk into a store and request a HD TV. Again it's available now, and it's affordable now. The magic of it all Tivo could easily offer a 1080i or 1080p solution without any change in what the customers sees and the way it works as well as incorporate all those bigger and bigger harddrives that are available.
So pretty much the format war was already over before HD-DVD and Blue-ray even got started. If they had half a brain cell they'd hurry up and release the burners and media to computer users before they become ilrelevant. Oops too late. Already have an external harddrive that is 10x bigger than anything they offer and the 20x ones will be available in a few short months.
I will be gracious and conceed that a clean install on like hardware OSX probably loads faster than XP, though the difference is less than 60 seconds.
In practicality though it's no faster than XP. I have noticed that OSX crawls to the starting line under the load of widgets and other software that my girlfriend insists that she can't live without on startup.
Apple can work all they want on the OS, but it's still up to the user to actually put all that good work to use.
Haha, I thought I was the only one using my computer as a space heater. Might as well since heat is heat, and I too run protein-folding in the background. Unlike yours though, mine is very quiet. I switched to a Zalman Resorator (external water cooling) last year and you can barely hear the single remaining fan and the water pump.
Any game that is not even more fun while drunk, is a bad game.
Generally what I've noticed seperates the men from the boys, is not maturity, but the definition of cool and how much they really care about it.
Example: I have collected a wide variety of music borrowing CD's and ripping them. Sooner or later my collection comes under inspection from people from work and all the younger guys are dismayed at some of the (uncool) things in there while the older guys are jazzed that I have a lot of music that they like.
2nd Example: I am currently looking for a brand new car. I would love to get a new truck or SUV to replace my loyal Tacoma, I was thinking either a crew cab Tacoma, FJ cruiser, or the new Jeep Unlimited, but my reality is that I now live in England after moving from the deserts of California where such vehicles would have done fine. England has some of the smallest roads you've ever seen and parking can be quite the premium. I have to fold my mirrors and still barely have any clearance to get into my garage, so I've started looking at small cars, in particular the Mini. Again all the younger guys are dismayed at the "gayness" of my choice. Of course unlike them I can actually afford to buy the loaded version which with all the extras, which turns the Mini into a low level, terrain following cruise missile, lot's of fun and hardly gay. As with the music, the older guys in the shop think it's a kick-ass idea.
In the past I've noticed most, not all, younger guys wouldn't be caught dead buying a game cube, or any of the previous Nintendo offers, as they we're "kid's games". That was until they were over at a friend's house and got sucked into a few crazy rounds of drunk Mario cart and other Mario games. The orgins of these purchases usually either for their kids or for or by the wife/girlfriend. It was after the fact playing a few games with their loved ones that they suddenly realized hey these are some pretty kick-ass games, and in turn got their single friends to join in on the fun.
That is priceless. :D
Don't forget emotional, narrow minded, combative, radical, lazy, irresponsible, conformant, paranoid, reactionary, and disrespectful.
Or simply put...young
Pretty funny stuff. I like your remark.
As for the rest I've known plenty of police officers and none of them behaived the way you described, so many people are pro-cop for very good reasons too.
Watch what the kid does and listen to what he says and how he says it.
Go back and do the same thing with the police officers.
Do it one more time for the crowd.
No one was being a robot that day. Everyone was being emotional.
That says alot about the whole incident and the kid in particular. If you can't see this whole bad situation for what it is, then oh well I don't think I'll anything else I can say will change your mind.
They were probably trying to arrest him for tresspass or at a bare minimum question him, but he immediately went into theatrics, which the video does clearly show, and also was trying to whip up the crowd, which he did manage to do. He wasn't being passive at all. He was putting up quite a bit of fight during the whole incident. Most people who resist arrest wear themselves out pretty quick and have to stop and rest before starting up again. That's what I saw in the video. He was not doing the classic body limp 60's student protest tactic. The kid had an axe to grind, he claimed he was being racially profiled and was fighting the whole situation. The poor dumb bastard actually did have his ID card on him but refused to show it.
I have noticed that 99% of people on here who think it unnecessary are either not US citizens and those that are, are college students. We'll just leave it at that.
The video doesn't show it, but it doesn't matter anyway if he was leaving. If the police were called then things were already set in motion.
Would I have tasered the man 3-5 times (the various articles all differ on the number of times he was.), but then that is the convience of being an arm chair spectator, diassociated with the incident viewing it after the fact. The police did not have that luxury, all they knew was that they had an unruly, hostile person in a building full of students. So maybe he got more than he deserved, but that doesn't suddenly make the man an innocent victim and the police criminals. The man brought the whole thing on himself.