If they played it up, congress would accuse them of being Commies, and make them make it run Windows, and frankly, I think we'd all rather have a rogue lightsaber training droid in our shuttle, than one of these guys running Windows.
I myself have been driving for fourteen years, and have, in my collection of speeding tickets, a ticket for going 85(mph) in a 35 (Delaware bridge off the Jersey Turnpike, wtf is the speed there 35? Anyone? Anyone?)
In addition, I have, as of right now, zero wrecks.
It passes the point where you can just shrug and say, "Oh, thats just luck." I've seen more wrecks caused by some moron going 30 miles UNDER the speed limit than I have by people going 30 over.
The assumption that speed = danger is utterly false. The problem is, when you couple poor judgement, inattention, and sloppy reflexes with speed, then you have a problem, but those things are problematic at ANY speed. The solution, then, is to remove the bad drivers.
Had a formmail exploit hit a bunch of unsecured webpages on a server I was admining. God knows how many messages got off, but I got about 400,000 bounces, so you can probably guess.
The way the ISP dealt with it was threaten to cut service unless we secured it, then watched our outgoing mail volume to make sure we did.
I imagine they'd stick with that...It's really the best way to police this kind of stuff. How the hell could they tell anything about the patch status of your system without doing something illegal?
Oh, actually I did read the article. I just thought it was pretty lame. Fucking libertarians love to say how everything would be better with no regulation, and 99 times out of 100 they're wrong.
You can't treat the EM spectrum like its a piece of land. There is no good way to take infringement issues to a regular court because, as with tech, most regular courts aren't equipped to understand the issues. Then theres squatting, and hardware standards enforcement, and a hundred other issues which you obviously don't know a fucking thing about, but which the FCC deals with every fucking day.
It is the ONLY PIECE of GOVERNMENT EQUIPPED TO EVEN FIND PEOPLE DOING TRULY ILLEGAL SHIT. The first thing a policeman would know about it is when someone starts broadcasting on a bleedband, and filling up the police band with Brittiny Spears or some other crap.
So before you go on a flame rampage, you should take five seconds to think about it.
Having worked for a number of radio stations I am well aware of the inherently evil nature of the FCC. If you have to work with them on a regular basis, you cannot help but come to the conclusion that they suck.
However, the chaos that would result from everyone and their mother grabbing whatever bandwidth they felt they needed and filling it up with whatever the hell they felt like putting in it is less palatable still.
Last thing we need is to make it easier for people who can afford bigger equipment to force the little guys out. On top of that, there are actual safety issues involved, with radio telemetry for airplanes and all the emergency bands.
Okay, so yea, parent is a troll, but he's completely correct. Shutdowns of this sort will cut out the big providers in a matter of minutes after the outbreak of a decent-sized worm. It takes no imagination to picture the response of the consumer who finds out that he can't get mail, or access a website. He's not going to care that it "improves his security/quality of service." All he's going to see is that his provider sucks, because it's not doing what he wants it to.
It comes with a firewall, but it's like that thing with Outlook where you can tell it "Don't let me download anything that might harm my computer" a handy function that protects you from ever downloading anything, or opening any attachment.
When you turn the firewall on, it blocks a ton of ports, which may or may not include ports it should block (telnet). Needless to say there isn't any way to configure which ports. It's all or nothing.
I've got it on, but god knows if its doing any good, as its behind 2 better firewalls.
Hmmm. Lol. Okay, I just portscanned myself, and despite my setting it to dump ALL non established incoming tcp/ip, it doesn't block a bunch of ports (below), including IIS and 445, though it does block SSH and telnet (then again, those services might not be available for my version of windows, so who the hell knows?)
In conclusion, it sucks, and it won't protect you from this virus.
7/tcp open echo 9/tcp open discard 13/tcp open daytime 17/tcp open qotd 19/tcp open chargen 135/tcp open msrpc 139/tcp open netbios-ssn 445/tcp open microsoft-ds 1025/tcp open NFS-or-IIS 1026/tcp open LSA-or-nterm 1027/tcp open IIS 5000/tcp open UPnP
1 cup of lard is 1850 calories, so you'd only have to eat 3.89 cups (.9208 litres) of yummy yummy lard, less depending on how many cokes you wash it down with.
Getting hungry just thinking about it. Wonder if I can get McDonalds to offer a McLard combo, with a side of extra lard. That would definitely get me the "McLardass of the Year" trophy.
Oh come on, it's only 7200 calories. That's only equal to about a bag of fritos and a tub of lard to dip them in. Most of us eat that on our lunch break, especially with non-diet coke being about 220 calories a can, and twinkies so small and tasty. Mmmmmmm. Lard.
If you develop in java, you don't have to pay sun any money. Sun uses what they call a "protected source" license, which basically says, "Anyone can use this, but only we can make changes, or release new distributions."
Open sourcing java wouldn't really hurt them, and god knows java could use it.
Local paper caught a plagarist in their staff recently. You'd be surprised. If you take a paragraph, or complex sentence at random, and put it into Google, you'll probably get a match if its on the net.
The hard ones are services where people write papers for other people.
Writing a good term paper actually IS about taking constucted pieces and putting them together.
BUT YOU HAVE TO CITE YOUR SOURCES.
Any moron can take someone elses hard work and put their name on it, it involves no creativity, no intelligence, and no skill.
The only thing this guy has going for him is that he feels the world owes him a living for no work of his own. Frankly if you're too fucking lame to get an english degree, there is no place for you in college. (Before all the English Majors start whining, I should mention that I have an English BA, which I picked up accidentally while working on my CS BS, so I know what the hell I'm talking about.)
It's still stupid, for the very simple reason that when you do yourself harm, it is your fault.
If she had bought a camera, and the first time she tried to take a picture with it, it had dumped a gallon of boiling coffee in her lap, that would be the fault of the manufacturer.
If, on the other hand, you buy a substance which is well known to be hot, and considered to be MORE desirable when it is more hot, and then you dump it in your own lap, that is your fault.
This falls in the commonsense category that protects automakers from people who crash themselves into bridge supports at 110mph, oil companies from people who torch themselves during any one of a number of simple procedures related to petroleum, universities from serial plagarists, and McDonalds from fat people who apparantly didn't know that fattening food makes you fatter.
Being stupid shouldn't be rewarded with 800 dollars, or any other amount for that matter. It never ceases to amaze me what stupid crap people sue over.
Aside from the math issues vis a vis string/int comparing, I'm always leery of letting a program decide for itself the data type that it is recieving. Every time VB does that, its an open door to a buffer overflow.
Agree completely about reading other peoples perl code, though.
I thought the age of the over-priced supercomputer was over, and the age of the cluster had begun?
Sure, I'd love to have one of those things in my house, but as long as the government is spending my money, I think I'd rather see them go for a more cost effective solution, rather than another 1 ton monster that'll be obsolete in two years.
Country clubs are a bad example because a good many of them STILL discriminate based on race and sex.
A better example, however, would be: "How about this being like a diseased hobo golfer wearing a sandwich board depicting child pornography trying to enter your home and being denied?"
There is certainly nothing wrong with being able to limit undesirable access to your personal space, digital or analog.
I agree completely, thus the "Pointy-Haired Boss" reference.
My mother is just like this. I can tell her something over and over and over again, and it means nothing to her. But if she hears the same thing from a random, poorly-informed stranger, it's a proven fact.
It's sad that they know enough to hire skilled people, and then choose to listen to simplistic (though slick) advertising instead.
I'm sure it's pretty cool. Most of their stuff is.
But I bet users are still going to be doing stupid things. You can't beat stupidity, and by claiming that, in fact, they have, they lose my vote big time.
Cisco products may have a place in a comprehensive security solution, but they're trying to claim they ARE a comprehensive security solution, and they're not.
Phb: "Oh, SELF PROTECTING NETWORK! Oooo! We need one of those!"
Such crap. It's like those blatantly false microsoft ads where they show microsoft office as a wonderful beautiful thing. I've worked with office for years, and the only time I danced through my office with a newly printed office document involved a printer incompatibility, a long project, and way too much coffee.
Show me an ad that says, "Hey this works okay most of the time," or "this router can detect and contain unusual network activity, so viri spread slower" and that's a product that I can trust. Promising pie in the sky only works for idiots.
Do you think they'll patent the backdoor they're planning on putting in it? I'd hate to have to reverse engineer that.
I used to be very pro-cisco, but with the recent "Self protecting networks" ads that are misleading at best, and the backdoor snafu, I don't see how I could reccomend to anyone that they're worth the cost.
The sort of system you seem to be talking about wouldn't even be ABLE to gather much in the way of personal information.
Unless you're going to be issuing digital id badges and monitoring those, I don't see how the information: "2 people passed point X at time Y" is going to be threatening to anyone.
I think this is definitely one of those times where the benefits far outweight anyones attempts to claim that someone is violating their privacy. In regards to the parents post, if someone wanted to waylay solo hikers, they could scout it themselves, or set up their own monitoring.
Far better to be able to verify that someone is in the mountains during a snowstorm than to bow to hysterical privacy mongering.
We used to use this as an exchange replacement. It's got a lot of features, though its still missing a few important ones (Palm Pilot Hotsync springs to mind), and we had a few scaling issues, but otherwise, it was pretty sweet.
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If they played it up, congress would accuse them of being Commies, and make them make it run Windows, and frankly, I think we'd all rather have a rogue lightsaber training droid in our shuttle, than one of these guys running Windows.
I myself have been driving for fourteen years, and have, in my collection of speeding tickets, a ticket for going 85(mph) in a 35 (Delaware bridge off the Jersey Turnpike, wtf is the speed there 35? Anyone? Anyone?)
In addition, I have, as of right now, zero wrecks.
It passes the point where you can just shrug and say, "Oh, thats just luck." I've seen more wrecks caused by some moron going 30 miles UNDER the speed limit than I have by people going 30 over.
The assumption that speed = danger is utterly false. The problem is, when you couple poor judgement, inattention, and sloppy reflexes with speed, then you have a problem, but those things are problematic at ANY speed. The solution, then, is to remove the bad drivers.
Had a formmail exploit hit a bunch of unsecured webpages on a server I was admining. God knows how many messages got off, but I got about 400,000 bounces, so you can probably guess.
The way the ISP dealt with it was threaten to cut service unless we secured it, then watched our outgoing mail volume to make sure we did.
I imagine they'd stick with that...It's really the best way to police this kind of stuff. How the hell could they tell anything about the patch status of your system without doing something illegal?
Oh, actually I did read the article. I just thought it was pretty lame. Fucking libertarians love to say how everything would be better with no regulation, and 99 times out of 100 they're wrong.
You can't treat the EM spectrum like its a piece of land. There is no good way to take infringement issues to a regular court because, as with tech, most regular courts aren't equipped to understand the issues. Then theres squatting, and hardware standards enforcement, and a hundred other issues which you obviously don't know a fucking thing about, but which the FCC deals with every fucking day.
It is the ONLY PIECE of GOVERNMENT EQUIPPED TO EVEN FIND PEOPLE DOING TRULY ILLEGAL SHIT. The first thing a policeman would know about it is when someone starts broadcasting on a bleedband, and filling up the police band with Brittiny Spears or some other crap.
So before you go on a flame rampage, you should take five seconds to think about it.
Having worked for a number of radio stations I am well aware of the inherently evil nature of the FCC. If you have to work with them on a regular basis, you cannot help but come to the conclusion that they suck.
However, the chaos that would result from everyone and their mother grabbing whatever bandwidth they felt they needed and filling it up with whatever the hell they felt like putting in it is less palatable still.
Last thing we need is to make it easier for people who can afford bigger equipment to force the little guys out. On top of that, there are actual safety issues involved, with radio telemetry for airplanes and all the emergency bands.
Such a bad idea.
Okay, so yea, parent is a troll, but he's completely correct. Shutdowns of this sort will cut out the big providers in a matter of minutes after the outbreak of a decent-sized worm. It takes no imagination to picture the response of the consumer who finds out that he can't get mail, or access a website. He's not going to care that it "improves his security/quality of service." All he's going to see is that his provider sucks, because it's not doing what he wants it to.
It comes with a firewall, but it's like that thing with Outlook where you can tell it "Don't let me download anything that might harm my computer" a handy function that protects you from ever downloading anything, or opening any attachment.
When you turn the firewall on, it blocks a ton of ports, which may or may not include ports it should block (telnet). Needless to say there isn't any way to configure which ports. It's all or nothing.
I've got it on, but god knows if its doing any good, as its behind 2 better firewalls.
Hmmm. Lol. Okay, I just portscanned myself, and despite my setting it to dump ALL non established incoming tcp/ip, it doesn't block a bunch of ports (below), including IIS and 445, though it does block SSH and telnet (then again, those services might not be available for my version of windows, so who the hell knows?)
In conclusion, it sucks, and it won't protect you from this virus.
7/tcp open echo
9/tcp open discard
13/tcp open daytime
17/tcp open qotd
19/tcp open chargen
135/tcp open msrpc
139/tcp open netbios-ssn
445/tcp open microsoft-ds
1025/tcp open NFS-or-IIS
1026/tcp open LSA-or-nterm
1027/tcp open IIS
5000/tcp open UPnP
1 cup of lard is 1850 calories, so you'd only have to eat 3.89 cups (.9208 litres) of yummy yummy lard, less depending on how many cokes you wash it down with.
Getting hungry just thinking about it. Wonder if I can get McDonalds to offer a McLard combo, with a side of extra lard. That would definitely get me the "McLardass of the Year" trophy.
No, but the bigger ass comes free.
Oh come on, it's only 7200 calories. That's only equal to about a bag of fritos and a tub of lard to dip them in. Most of us eat that on our lunch break, especially with non-diet coke being about 220 calories a can, and twinkies so small and tasty. Mmmmmmm. Lard.
If you develop in java, you don't have to pay sun any money. Sun uses what they call a "protected source" license, which basically says, "Anyone can use this, but only we can make changes, or release new distributions."
Open sourcing java wouldn't really hurt them, and god knows java could use it.
Response 2 is actually why I got my BA...The six girls in my CS classes were all dating other people.
Local paper caught a plagarist in their staff recently. You'd be surprised. If you take a paragraph, or complex sentence at random, and put it into Google, you'll probably get a match if its on the net.
The hard ones are services where people write papers for other people.
Writing a good term paper actually IS about taking constucted pieces and putting them together.
BUT YOU HAVE TO CITE YOUR SOURCES.
Any moron can take someone elses hard work and put their name on it, it involves no creativity, no intelligence, and no skill.
The only thing this guy has going for him is that he feels the world owes him a living for no work of his own. Frankly if you're too fucking lame to get an english degree, there is no place for you in college. (Before all the English Majors start whining, I should mention that I have an English BA, which I picked up accidentally while working on my CS BS, so I know what the hell I'm talking about.)
It's still stupid, for the very simple reason that when you do yourself harm, it is your fault.
If she had bought a camera, and the first time she tried to take a picture with it, it had dumped a gallon of boiling coffee in her lap, that would be the fault of the manufacturer.
If, on the other hand, you buy a substance which is well known to be hot, and considered to be MORE desirable when it is more hot, and then you dump it in your own lap, that is your fault.
This falls in the commonsense category that protects automakers from people who crash themselves into bridge supports at 110mph, oil companies from people who torch themselves during any one of a number of simple procedures related to petroleum, universities from serial plagarists, and McDonalds from fat people who apparantly didn't know that fattening food makes you fatter.
Being stupid shouldn't be rewarded with 800 dollars, or any other amount for that matter. It never ceases to amaze me what stupid crap people sue over.
Aside from the math issues vis a vis string/int comparing, I'm always leery of letting a program decide for itself the data type that it is recieving. Every time VB does that, its an open door to a buffer overflow.
Agree completely about reading other peoples perl code, though.
I thought the age of the over-priced supercomputer was over, and the age of the cluster had begun?
Sure, I'd love to have one of those things in my house, but as long as the government is spending my money, I think I'd rather see them go for a more cost effective solution, rather than another 1 ton monster that'll be obsolete in two years.
Country clubs are a bad example because a good many of them STILL discriminate based on race and sex.
A better example, however, would be: "How about this being like a diseased hobo golfer wearing a sandwich board depicting child pornography trying to enter your home and being denied?"
There is certainly nothing wrong with being able to limit undesirable access to your personal space, digital or analog.
Yea, 9.8 megs of video data becomes your doom when it's linked off the second post on the first /. article after 9:00am EST.
/. effect, but this poor bastard could never have seen this coming.
Most times I don't care about the
I agree completely, thus the "Pointy-Haired Boss" reference.
My mother is just like this. I can tell her something over and over and over again, and it means nothing to her. But if she hears the same thing from a random, poorly-informed stranger, it's a proven fact.
It's sad that they know enough to hire skilled people, and then choose to listen to simplistic (though slick) advertising instead.
I'm sure it's pretty cool. Most of their stuff is.
But I bet users are still going to be doing stupid things. You can't beat stupidity, and by claiming that, in fact, they have, they lose my vote big time.
Cisco products may have a place in a comprehensive security solution, but they're trying to claim they ARE a comprehensive security solution, and they're not.
Phb: "Oh, SELF PROTECTING NETWORK! Oooo! We need one of those!"
Such crap. It's like those blatantly false microsoft ads where they show microsoft office as a wonderful beautiful thing. I've worked with office for years, and the only time I danced through my office with a newly printed office document involved a printer incompatibility, a long project, and way too much coffee.
Show me an ad that says, "Hey this works okay most of the time," or "this router can detect and contain unusual network activity, so viri spread slower" and that's a product that I can trust. Promising pie in the sky only works for idiots.
Do you think they'll patent the backdoor they're planning on putting in it? I'd hate to have to reverse engineer that.
I used to be very pro-cisco, but with the recent "Self protecting networks" ads that are misleading at best, and the backdoor snafu, I don't see how I could reccomend to anyone that they're worth the cost.
The sort of system you seem to be talking about wouldn't even be ABLE to gather much in the way of personal information.
Unless you're going to be issuing digital id badges and monitoring those, I don't see how the information: "2 people passed point X at time Y" is going to be threatening to anyone.
I think this is definitely one of those times where the benefits far outweight anyones attempts to claim that someone is violating their privacy. In regards to the parents post, if someone wanted to waylay solo hikers, they could scout it themselves, or set up their own monitoring.
Far better to be able to verify that someone is in the mountains during a snowstorm than to bow to hysterical privacy mongering.
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