Ext3 is still chugging along and doing what you want. A filesystem that sacrifices everything for stability.
Not everyone has the same wants and needs. Lots of competing filesystems is a good thing, it leads to a market of ideas. Your lets pick one and force everyone to suffer with our choice just leads to stagnation and even worse results.
The reason they can't ship together and be updated via normal RHEL/SUSE/Debian updates is licensing, but the technical problem keeping it from being seriously considered for production is that they can't be updated and shipped together.
Oracle does not want to do that. I am sure btrfs exists only because the DB boys want a new good filesystem and the Solaris org chart heads will not let ZFS slip from their grasp.
ZFS is mature and reliable today on Solaris and BSD, the Linux port is far newer.
It means you will not get updates via normal channels, or normal channel updates might break it. That simply is not something most datacenters want to deal with. ZFS is more mature on Solaris and BSD, on Linux today it might be ahead of btrfs, but neither is production ready in the sense that datacenters mean it.
ZFS is outside the kernel tree. That is not an ideological issue, but a practical one. It means updates will not come from the normal channels, it means kernel updates form normal channels could break it and it is not getting the attention from the kernel devs an fs should get.
ZFS on linux has probably less testing than Btrfs at this point. It has near no real world testing. Just because the Solaris ZFS is great, and the BSD one is coming along means nothing for the stability and correctness of the Linux port.
If you want to use a different OS than this entire discussion is worthless. You might as well suggest switching everything to OSX and using HFS+.
Correct sir. My point still stands though. Even though the limitation keeping it from being seriously considered for production is caused by a legal issue not a technical one.
Because ZFS can never be distributed with Linux. It has to be bolted on after the fact, because SUN made a short sighted decision to try to keep Solaris alive.
Lots of production servers user Ext filesystems. If btrfs is all it should be it will certainly replace these file systems one day soon as the safe choice.
Sure people use other filesystems on production Linux servers, but those are not the norm. The safe "Enterprise" (Not necessarily a good thing) choice is still Ext based filesystems.
A.22 rimfire pepperbox should be doable with ABS. To reload you take off the entire end and place a new one on it.
If you are willing to go to black powder you can make your own rounds easily. Since you are just packing powder and ball into the pepperbox barrels. Making percussion caps is harder, but matchlock should be easier. Besides percussion caps will not be that hard to make.
They sort of do advertise a low upfront price. The GS3 on their website says $149, or did last I looked, in the fine print it said + $20/month for X months.
Advertising the real price and mentioning it can be financed is not done because people will only see the large upfront price and be put off.
Personally if you cannot afford to drop $350-$700 on a phone, then you can't afford a smartphone contract either.
You are a bigger idiot. The Disney movie Alice in Wonderland is based off a book of the same name. Had modern copyright laws been in place Disney would have had to pay Lewis Carroll's decedents.
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Data integrity is fine, if you are not running XFS.
Why should everyone suffer a 30% performance hit, to make the couple oddballs running XFS happy?
They fix that write barrier issue yet?
Don't tell me it is a Linux bug, that is a cop out. Either it will lose my data or it will not, I don't care why.
Friends don't let friends use RAID5.
As far as I know there are no 4TB SAS drives available yet.
This is another reason why people want btrfs soon. Right now it is not yet an issue, for most use cases. Since you can have many 16TB volumes.
Are any of these Enterprise distros?
I don't know of any of those that distribute any of the kernel modules are speaking of.
Gentoo is linux for ricers.
That first command is your problem.
Not in the normal repos not getting installed.
No one installs the closed nVidia drivers on production machines.
No, I cannot.
I have a many servers that run commercial software only supported on RHEL.
I did not realize btrfs was also suitable for magnetic tape use.
Ext3 is still chugging along and doing what you want. A filesystem that sacrifices everything for stability.
Not everyone has the same wants and needs. Lots of competing filesystems is a good thing, it leads to a market of ideas. Your lets pick one and force everyone to suffer with our choice just leads to stagnation and even worse results.
This.
The reason they can't ship together and be updated via normal RHEL/SUSE/Debian updates is licensing, but the technical problem keeping it from being seriously considered for production is that they can't be updated and shipped together.
Oracle does not want to do that. I am sure btrfs exists only because the DB boys want a new good filesystem and the Solaris org chart heads will not let ZFS slip from their grasp.
ZFS is mature and reliable today on Solaris and BSD, the Linux port is far newer.
Yes, but the statement is still true.
It means you will not get updates via normal channels, or normal channel updates might break it. That simply is not something most datacenters want to deal with. ZFS is more mature on Solaris and BSD, on Linux today it might be ahead of btrfs, but neither is production ready in the sense that datacenters mean it.
ZFS is outside the kernel tree. That is not an ideological issue, but a practical one. It means updates will not come from the normal channels, it means kernel updates form normal channels could break it and it is not getting the attention from the kernel devs an fs should get.
ZFS on linux has probably less testing than Btrfs at this point. It has near no real world testing. Just because the Solaris ZFS is great, and the BSD one is coming along means nothing for the stability and correctness of the Linux port.
If you want to use a different OS than this entire discussion is worthless. You might as well suggest switching everything to OSX and using HFS+.
Correct sir.
My point still stands though. Even though the limitation keeping it from being seriously considered for production is caused by a legal issue not a technical one.
No, I am suggesting datacenter linux needs something like ZFS. Proper snapshotting, block level dedupe, and all that jazz.
Btrfs is not yet ready, but in the next decade it will take on this role.
Because ZFS can never be distributed with Linux. It has to be bolted on after the fact, because SUN made a short sighted decision to try to keep Solaris alive.
It will be ready for production when it can be distributed with the kernel.
Do you really want to depend on an out of tree FS?
Lots of production servers user Ext filesystems. If btrfs is all it should be it will certainly replace these file systems one day soon as the safe choice.
Sure people use other filesystems on production Linux servers, but those are not the norm. The safe "Enterprise" (Not necessarily a good thing) choice is still Ext based filesystems.
It also has none of the features that make Btrfs exciting and modern.
XFS is fine, so is Ext3/Ext4, but Linux need a modern file system.
That is what I was thinking.
A .22 rimfire pepperbox should be doable with ABS. To reload you take off the entire end and place a new one on it.
If you are willing to go to black powder you can make your own rounds easily. Since you are just packing powder and ball into the pepperbox barrels. Making percussion caps is harder, but matchlock should be easier. Besides percussion caps will not be that hard to make.
Most mortgages are below that.
The phone is less cost than the contract.
This would be like saying if you cannot drop 20% of the mortgage you can't afford the house, which is true.
They sort of do advertise a low upfront price. The GS3 on their website says $149, or did last I looked, in the fine print it said + $20/month for X months.
Advertising the real price and mentioning it can be financed is not done because people will only see the large upfront price and be put off.
Personally if you cannot afford to drop $350-$700 on a phone, then you can't afford a smartphone contract either.
This.
It is a loan, cancel service and the loan comes due.
What they should do is let you cancel service and still finance out the phone. That way there is no room for anyone to complain.
If you cannot separate eggs using the shells, stop cooking at just go to McDonalds.
No, you cannot.
Show me any data recovery company that says they can and I will show you a liar.
People have many times put up money to see this done and no one has ever demonstrated it.
You are a bigger idiot.
The Disney movie Alice in Wonderland is based off a book of the same name. Had modern copyright laws been in place Disney would have had to pay Lewis Carroll's decedents.