"Apparently the police like to spend their time trawling our private information on Facebook looking for criminals"...
I always thought that if it was on Facebook, it wasn't "private"...
Be careful what you post, people...
And really, why use WebKit? Sure, its a decent rendering engine but no better than Gecko or the other OSS rendering engines.
One reason for using WebKit over Gecko would be the licensing...I know that for lots of corporations, BSD-licensing is much favored over anything related to GPL...(Gecko is MPL)
And I love his suggestion to access this using ASP.net under IIS...as if I really want to be running *OFFICE* on my *WEB SERVER*...one more thing to exploit.
The thing that people constantly are forgetting is that Internet Behaviour is PUBLIC BEHAVIOUR - that is, the Internet is a public place - and your activities are watched. The thing that really gets me is where kids think that their MySpace account is private. That's RIDICULOUS! Where does it say that everyone EXECPT YOUR PARENTS is allowed to access your MySpace account? Where does it say that everyone in a chat room can see what you are saying except for those who care for you?
I agree - that there are some legitimate cases where privacy is an issue - when it comes to email addresses, bank accounts, etc. That's what SSL was invented for.
HOWEVER - if you are using a non-encrypted protocol (such as HTTP, or most chat applications), you have NO EXPECTATION OF PRIVACY. If you parents aren't monitoring you, who's to say your ISP isn't? Or the ISP of the person/site you are visiting/chatting with? Or the person/site themselves? Or ANYONE WHO MAY SNIFF YOUR DATA ALONG THE WAY???
And even with encrypted communications (chat, for example), you have no guarantee of privacy that the person on the other end *isn't* logging your conversation, and *won't* post it later.
The argument of "Don't monitor or filter your kids - educate them instead" is flawed. The *REAL* education that needs to happen is that *nothing* (with very few exceptions) is private on the Internet. We need to teach our children to be careful on the Internet. Monitoring and filtering alone do nothing. Education alone does nothing. You need both.
Yes - there are ways around it. Ways to get anonymized. Ways to "hide your tracks". But looking at it cynically, if you don't filter or monitor your kids, they will never learn how to do those things, or how to be careful - and someone else will be monitoring them instead.:) Isn't it better to be the one doing the filtering and monitoring, and thus have the opportunity to actually *DO* some educating - rather than let them educate themselves?
A filter or monitor without education is worthless. But at the same time, education without some sort of reinforcement is just as worthless.
As you mentioned, take a child who grows up with too many restrictions and you will see what happens when they "move out from under your thumb." Read Lord of the Flies for the flipside - and see what happens to a child who grows up with no restrictions.
And, as you put it so wonderfully, "Yes, it will be your fault."
BitTorrenting the BINARIES wouldn't be piracy - but it would be violating the trademark. So you can't do it.
You can bittorent the source all you want - it *is* after all, open source...
Check out the forums, the wiki, and everything else on the neooffice page. If you don't want to pay for the early access build, BUILD IT YOURSELF! And you don't have to pay a cent.
The SOURCE is there for you.
BTW - don't build it yourself and then bittorent that either - that would also violate the trademark. Feel free to change the source and rename it something different though - it is, after all, OPEN SOURCE!
For more on the Open Source/Trademark/Free/Pay/Early Access/etc issue, please read this thread. Then, after you are more educated, come back and share your views.
Seems to me that any company which signs a certificate (a la geotrust) who didn't follow the due process needed to verify what they were signing are setting themselves up for a lawsuit from anyone who was fooled by such a certificate.
Basically, signing a cert is putting a stamp of approval on it saying "I validate that this organization is who they say they are, and I put my signature alongside theirs."
If one party of a co-signed contract defaults on the contract, the other is responsible for losses. I don't see how this is any different.
So for those people who may have fallen for this, there still is hope! You should be able to get your money back - at least from the Geotrust people...
The stats above came from a presentation given at a conference last September by Marsali Hancock, president of the Internet Keep Safe Coalition. You might be able to get transcripts from that conference from The Utah Coalition Against Pornography (the sponsors of that conference) - though their site seems to be quite broken, and poorly laid out.
I agree - pornography is a HUGE problem in our society. Children are especially vulnerable...but the responsibility for filtering out such crap falls upon the parents - not upon legislation.
5 years ago, nearly half of all homes had an internet filter of some sort installed - now, only a quarter do. Is this because of the percieved inadequacies of filters? I agree that in the past they have had problems, but recently, there have been many advances which reduce false-positives (the "breast cancer" point is all but non-existant now).
I agree with many points that have been made in these postings, and I don't like the idea of being "secretly" traced. But being traced has its benefits as well.
I really like the article Take my privacy, please - and I feel that it has some very good points.
Seems to me that it's not really a bad idea that IE prompt the user before loading active-x controls anyway...loading them by default is a pretty big security risk...
According to this article, "Components of the atmosphere, like ozone and water, are changing in different levels of the atmosphere." According to Martinez-Frias, these changes are BAD
However, did you know that the change taking place is not what you thought??? The ozone hole is actually getting SMALLER!!!
So we hear for 10-20 years that we are ruining the environment, damaging the ozone layer, and that this damage is irreparable (OK, so it takes a long time...but I don't want to wait 50 years). However, come to find out that it is reparable. I'm going back to using AquaNet!
But that's not enough for those environmentalists out there...they need to have something to whine about. Since they can't complain that the ozone is getting bigger, they'll say that "changes" (they won't specify for the better or for the worse) are causing the "sky to fall!"
The only thing that this teaches me is to never trust an evironmentalist. Not only was the "irreparable" ozone hole, in fact, reparable, it is BAD to fix it...it causes ice to fall out of the sky.
Now, I don't know much about weather or the environment, and I don't doubt that changes in the environment are causing some weird things to happen, but I do know that some really freaky stuff has happened in the past, and will probably continue to happen in the future.
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"Apparently the police like to spend their time trawling our private information on Facebook looking for criminals"... I always thought that if it was on Facebook, it wasn't "private"... Be careful what you post, people...
And really, why use WebKit? Sure, its a decent rendering engine but no better than Gecko or the other OSS rendering engines.
One reason for using WebKit over Gecko would be the licensing...I know that for lots of corporations, BSD-licensing is much favored over anything related to GPL...(Gecko is MPL)
And I love his suggestion to access this using ASP.net under IIS...as if I really want to be running *OFFICE* on my *WEB SERVER*...one more thing to exploit.
The thing that people constantly are forgetting is that Internet Behaviour is PUBLIC BEHAVIOUR - that is, the Internet is a public place - and your activities are watched. The thing that really gets me is where kids think that their MySpace account is private. That's RIDICULOUS! Where does it say that everyone EXECPT YOUR PARENTS is allowed to access your MySpace account? Where does it say that everyone in a chat room can see what you are saying except for those who care for you?
:) Isn't it better to be the one doing the filtering and monitoring, and thus have the opportunity to actually *DO* some educating - rather than let them educate themselves?
I agree - that there are some legitimate cases where privacy is an issue - when it comes to email addresses, bank accounts, etc. That's what SSL was invented for.
HOWEVER - if you are using a non-encrypted protocol (such as HTTP, or most chat applications), you have NO EXPECTATION OF PRIVACY. If you parents aren't monitoring you, who's to say your ISP isn't? Or the ISP of the person/site you are visiting/chatting with? Or the person/site themselves? Or ANYONE WHO MAY SNIFF YOUR DATA ALONG THE WAY???
And even with encrypted communications (chat, for example), you have no guarantee of privacy that the person on the other end *isn't* logging your conversation, and *won't* post it later.
The argument of "Don't monitor or filter your kids - educate them instead" is flawed. The *REAL* education that needs to happen is that *nothing* (with very few exceptions) is private on the Internet. We need to teach our children to be careful on the Internet. Monitoring and filtering alone do nothing. Education alone does nothing. You need both.
Yes - there are ways around it. Ways to get anonymized. Ways to "hide your tracks". But looking at it cynically, if you don't filter or monitor your kids, they will never learn how to do those things, or how to be careful - and someone else will be monitoring them instead.
A filter or monitor without education is worthless. But at the same time, education without some sort of reinforcement is just as worthless.
As you mentioned, take a child who grows up with too many restrictions and you will see what happens when they "move out from under your thumb." Read Lord of the Flies for the flipside - and see what happens to a child who grows up with no restrictions.
And, as you put it so wonderfully, "Yes, it will be your fault."
BitTorrenting the BINARIES wouldn't be piracy - but it would be violating the trademark. So you can't do it.
You can bittorent the source all you want - it *is* after all, open source...
Check out the forums, the wiki, and everything else on the neooffice page. If you don't want to pay for the early access build, BUILD IT YOURSELF! And you don't have to pay a cent.
The SOURCE is there for you.
BTW - don't build it yourself and then bittorent that either - that would also violate the trademark. Feel free to change the source and rename it something different though - it is, after all, OPEN SOURCE!
For more on the Open Source/Trademark/Free/Pay/Early Access/etc issue, please read this thread. Then, after you are more educated, come back and share your views.
Seems to me that any company which signs a certificate (a la geotrust) who didn't follow the due process needed to verify what they were signing are setting themselves up for a lawsuit from anyone who was fooled by such a certificate.
Basically, signing a cert is putting a stamp of approval on it saying "I validate that this organization is who they say they are, and I put my signature alongside theirs."
If one party of a co-signed contract defaults on the contract, the other is responsible for losses. I don't see how this is any different.
So for those people who may have fallen for this, there still is hope! You should be able to get your money back - at least from the Geotrust people...
The stats above came from a presentation given at a conference last September by Marsali Hancock, president of the Internet Keep Safe Coalition. You might be able to get transcripts from that conference from The Utah Coalition Against Pornography (the sponsors of that conference) - though their site seems to be quite broken, and poorly laid out.
I agree - pornography is a HUGE problem in our society. Children are especially vulnerable...but the responsibility for filtering out such crap falls upon the parents - not upon legislation.
5 years ago, nearly half of all homes had an internet filter of some sort installed - now, only a quarter do. Is this because of the percieved inadequacies of filters? I agree that in the past they have had problems, but recently, there have been many advances which reduce false-positives (the "breast cancer" point is all but non-existant now).
You can get a filter for free at http://www.k9webprotection.com - they offer it as a community service. You can also find some for-profit filters reviewed at http://internet-filter-review.toptenreviews.com/.
I agree with many points that have been made in these postings, and I don't like the idea of being "secretly" traced. But being traced has its benefits as well. I really like the article Take my privacy, please - and I feel that it has some very good points.
Seems to me that it's not really a bad idea that IE prompt the user before loading active-x controls anyway...loading them by default is a pretty big security risk...
According to this article, "Components of the atmosphere, like ozone and water, are changing in different levels of the atmosphere." According to Martinez-Frias, these changes are BAD
However, did you know that the change taking place is not what you thought??? The ozone hole is actually getting SMALLER!!!
So we hear for 10-20 years that we are ruining the environment, damaging the ozone layer, and that this damage is irreparable (OK, so it takes a long time...but I don't want to wait 50 years). However, come to find out that it is reparable. I'm going back to using AquaNet!
But that's not enough for those environmentalists out there...they need to have something to whine about. Since they can't complain that the ozone is getting bigger, they'll say that "changes" (they won't specify for the better or for the worse) are causing the "sky to fall!"
The only thing that this teaches me is to never trust an evironmentalist. Not only was the "irreparable" ozone hole, in fact, reparable, it is BAD to fix it...it causes ice to fall out of the sky.
Now, I don't know much about weather or the environment, and I don't doubt that changes in the environment are causing some weird things to happen, but I do know that some really freaky stuff has happened in the past, and will probably continue to happen in the future.
Just stop complaining about it!!! :)