"By combining anti-virus scans, anti-spyware scans, and firewall protection into a single package"
Hey, lets not forget their biggest contribution, a terribly buggy OS that has holes in it you can drive a truck (much less a virus) through. Personnally I think that's what they should be most proud of! Now they can charge you even MORE to to protect you from their bugs and on a subscription basis too!! Very nice of them if you ask me.....
Hey buddy, you wouldn't want to get sick or nothing would ya? Well, for a price I can make sure you and the family stay real healthy. You wouldn't want anything to happen to your family would ya? I didn't think so.....
That's the difference between a Computer Scientist and programmer. One is a career the other a job.
I respect what you're saying about providing for your family and couldn't agree more. If I had to swab out toilets to take care of my wife and kids, that's what I'd do. On the other hand, I've educated myself to be a professional. To just be doing the job to pay the bills is sad. I can think of a lot easier things to do than be a programmer for the same money. My wife is a balloon artist (no ed. past HS) and she makes about $125 and hour and has a blast doing it. I hate working in a language thats going to change (or evaporate like the old VB) based on MS's business whims. That's why I stick with OSS when I can and I push it when and where ever I can. Do what you like, I say, but don't do it for the money, do it because you love it. Otherwise, you damage a profession for those of us that do it out of a love for what we do and are constantly going in after the folks that were just in it to make a buck.
Yeah, but what about the artist? I mean, don't they have the absolute right to deny anything freak'in thing they've ever written, uttered or excreted from public use until every last penny has been wrung from it? I mean, com'on. We're not about knowledge or sharing. We're about money. More is better. To hell with bettering ourselves or others. Let's just get rich and crap on the rest of the world. Yeah, that's the ticket.....
Listen punk, anytime you're man enough to call me boy face to face you stop by and go for it. Otherwise show respect or shut up.
>>We all are poor suckers, and the fact that we already burned 70% of all fossile >>energy grown in millions of years clearly displays our lack of power compared to >>God's Will.
You're obviously and idiot. They just found an oil field containing more oil than all that under the middle east (who have estimated that they can continue to provide oil, even allowing for current levels of increase, for the next 150 years) in Canada. Several oil fields larger than this exist jus off the southern coast of America. ANWR contains substantial reserves as well. These are just the ones I (a non-petroleum engineer) am aware of. I'm certain there are many more. Why don't you start walking to work. The rest of us will just go on raping the earth waiting for oil to run out, 'kay?
>>That's why we believe in God: It's always God's Will, no matter what you do, God's >>Will will act through you. That's why George W. Bush converted from drunkard to >>Christian: It's even easier to act without the use of a minimum of brains.
Well, I'm glad you believe in God, other than that I think you'd better get a little more into prayer for your mental state. You sound a little psychotic. I love the drunken Bush comment. Who'd you vote for? John, shot himself in the ass with a rocket launcher, Kerry. Yeah he's a real winner. Sorta like you......
Considering Kevin has never written a line of code in his life (his MO was always that of a script kiddy) I can just imagine how much he's learned studying the sources for systems he wants to break into. He's much more into tricking stupid users into telling him their password than any real "system" hacking. He's always depending on the analysis (and code) of others for any system cracking.
Nice that he can make a living out this stuff though. Just goes to show that working hard for a degree and doing an honest days work is still the most boring and least rewarding way to make a living in this country. Of course that 4+ years in prison thing doesn't sound like much fun either.....
Give me a break. Start worrying about things humans do control, not the things they wish they controlled. The more you beat your chest about global warming and how humans are causing it, the more silly you sound. Do the science. It's like pissing in the ocean and saying you killed the whales. As much as we wish we were that powerful, we are not and, hopefully, never will be.
Everyone here is talking about XM and Sirus without even considering the tidelwave that's coming this year. HD radio, that's terrestrial broadcast, with multicast capability has been growing now for three years and is now getting ready for prime time. This is the year that the HD consortium (mostly Clear Channel, Infinity and a few other radio biggies) really push this thing into the world.
Start buying digital recievers and do your recording now. There's no DRM yet (trust me, I know) and the way development (and sales) is going it will be some time before there is. The RIAA may own the legislature and lots of congressmen but this country is still made of a hell of lot more non-lawyers than lawyers. Let 'em sue 'till they're blue. Once the politians (you know, poly for many, and tics for blood sucking parasites) learn that they loose votes when they back DRM, they'll worm their way back to opposing it. The scum have always played both sides, why would they change now?
If you really want a solution, get in there and vote. Send the bastards home that don't do as their told by their bosses (you know, US!).
I wish someone would develop a $100 big screen HDTV for those of us living in the undeveloped wilds of suburban America. Think of the benefit that would be brought to humanity by allowing the less priviledged to enjoy Family Guy and Futurama on a 12 foot HD screen.
"Florida has standards set at 140 MPH because it is practical"
No, basic wind speed never exceeds 120 MPH (according to the IBC 2003? Also see http://www.rinker.com/florida/RCo_BuildingCode.htm for Florida specifically) anywhere in the US as far as I recall. I wrote several programs to calculate wind load for steel buildings and I can tell you for a fact that no one is going to build homes (I'm not talking commercial here but residential 1 to 3 story structures) that can withstand more than 120 MPH wind. Some may be able to withstand more than that but they're not designed for it. It costs too much and requires special structural designs that just are not typically done. 275 MPH loads for residential would get you some great laughs at a civil engineering convention....
So now music downloaders are in the same catagory as rapists and murderers?
Is "Justice Department" really the right name for this organization.....
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"What this article tries to convey is that a pandemic is definitely coming"
Horse pucky! Between global warming, the coming nuclear war, the FACT that we're going to be hit by a meteor (comet, asteroid, whatever) I wonder why we bother to get up in the morning. Oh, I know, so we can BUY OR PAY FOR OUR FAVORITE NEWS OUTLET TO TELL US WHAT'S GOING TO KILL US NEXT!!!!!
Live today like it's your last and you'll be happier and a get a lot more out of life.
Yes, and my weatherman predicted rain all week too. Fortunately for me weather predications are so reliable I'm out in my lawn chair reading Slashdot....
It's interesting how no one would bother to predict the temperture to the tenth of a degree on a day to day basis (78.6 degrees today and 78.9 degrees tomorrow) but they do it for time spans of years all the time.... And please, don't even go into the math. If the people making these predictions had half the imagination they needed to think of the hundreds (thousands) of things that account for temperature at any given time, they'd have heads 5 feet wide (and be very easy to spot in a crowd...).
THESE ARE NOT PREDICTIONS, THEY'RE GUESSES BASED ON FUNDING....
Here's a look at Kevin's record. Still think he was abused? There's no way he didn't get what he deserved.
Kevin Mitnick's criminal record:
1981
Where: California Charge: Computer fraud for stealing computer manuals from Pacific Bell Sentence: One year probation
1987
Where: California Charge: Computer fraud (no details available) Sentence: Pleaded guilty, but sentence unknown
==> According to Cyberpunk (Markoff and Hafner) Kevin claims he manipulated the FBI's
system to delete his outstanding warrent. Who know's, maybe he did maybe he didn't.
1989
Where: California Charges: Computer fraud and possession of unauthorized access devices for hacking into MCI and Digital Equipment computers Sentence: One year in low-security prison and three years of supervised release Time Served: One year, much of it at a halfway house for people with compulsive disorders
1992
Where: California Charges: Computer fraud and possession of unauthorized access devices for allegedly hacking into state Department of Motor Vehicles computers Sentence: Charges still pending
1995
Where: North Carolina Charge: Possession of unauthorized access devices Sentence: Eight months Time served: Eight months
Where: California Charge: Violation of supervised release Sentence: Fourteen months Time served: Fourteen months
1996
Where: California Charges: Computer fraud, wire fraud and possession of unauthorized access devices Sentence: Subject to terms of plea bargain
Here he eventually paid $4000 restitution and was released in January of 2000.
I've got nothing against Mitnick personaly. I've gotten great entertainment from the books written on his exploits. Hell, I even read his book on security (wasn't very good though). But there's been no injustice here. The claim that he spent so much time in jail without being charged is silly. He already had enough outstanding changes to keep him there a very long time. Eventually he made a deal, served the remaining time and was released. I wish him luck. Unlike many people here I think he's done great to exploit the masses that admire him to make a chunk of money and stay out of trouble. Good for him!
What are you, some little punk? I wish I could see you face to face buddy boy. No doubt you'd be afraid of the big abusive facist..
"1. Physical property loss and damage do not compare to a strict financial lost (security
audits, re-securing systems, re-engineering security procedures). So you can take your
analogy with the car and house and slide it up your rectum sideways."
See my previous comment. You're a moron! So genius, property doesn't equal finance eh? Tell your realtor that the next time you try to buy some property boy. Maybe they'll help educate your little pea brain.
"2.Punishment ought to fit the crime. What crime does the punishment of 3 years of
near solitary confinement without formal charges fit into?
Now, locking a person up for 3 years without charges or access to a lawyer, that's
FACIST."
You obviously haven't read anything not written in 2600 magazine. You know nothing of this case. Why do you pretend you do? Kevin David Mitnick made a deal bud. He admitted, and bragged about, most of his crimes in conversations with John Littman (The Fugitive Game). He did the crime and he did his time. The fact that he served his time in the way that best protected him from the general population at Lompoc is something only his guards could speak to. Maybe he needed the protection. Lot's of real friendly types in Lompoc. You'd probably love it.
"Do you see me arguing that Mitnick did zero harm? Fuck no. Do you see me arguing that
Mitnick is a worthy role-model? Fuck no. Kevin Mitnick is the poster child for the abuse
of police power. That's why people like me come out of the woodwork to put down the ignorant.
The man could have drowned puppies while robbing banks and I would still be here defending
him if he was locked up for 3 years without formal charges or legal counsel. If a person
has commited a crime, arrest them and give them their day in court. The rights of the
accused are important to all citizens."
People like you? Morons of the world unite! You have only your ignorance to lose! You're defending someone that admitted to committing dozens of criminal offenses who then paid $4000 in restitution and served a total of 5 years in Federal prison. If he didn't want to serve the time why did he commit the crime and why did he admit it? He had his day in court, he had a lawyer, and justice was served. What the hell do you want. "Well, he just caused financial loss so he should just have his hand slapped." Guess what, he had been busted for similar things twice before! Ever hear of three stikes and you're out? Maybe we should all just do whatever the hell we want to and let the chips fall where they may. I'm all for it buddy but I don't think geniuses like you would last long. You better pray the cops you accuse of so much abuse are around to keep your pansy ass out of trouble! Really man, get a life! Mitnick's not whining about it, why are you?
Great! I guess we should just rob your house and steal your car so that you can thank us for teaching you about security! Of course anyone that insists on punishment for wrong doing is a facist. You're a moron! Pick better role models and you won't be disappointed.
"..... you obviously do NOT have a clue about the kevin story...kevin didn't do much of anything wrong, he never harmed a soul,"
Who doesn't know much about the Kevin story? This jerk caused
a ton of problems for all kinds of people. Including ISP's,
baby bells, cell phone service providers and the FBI. I know
several people who had to clean up the mess he made. He got
1/10th punishment that he deserved. If this is someone you
admire you need to seriously rethink your life!!
I agree with your RAIC (have done that myself) but you can do even better with two (or three) monitors with various systems KVM'd (preferably KB switched KVM, to keep it neat) to each. I will typically have my fastest sytem running on the two 21's (still CRT's, poor me) to my right, while I have Windows or another Linux machine being displayed on the 21 to the far left. I've been able to pick up 21" CRT's for less than $150 for at least 2 years so now anyone can have an awesome setup. I've got a fourth 20" SGI Octane monitor further down to the left but no KVM for him. Helps to have a really strong table....
"Software in general, whether it was from Microsoft or somebody else, was not set up for an environment where all the computers were connected together."
Geez!! Sun's very motto (ten years ago) was the network IS the computer! How oblivious can he be...
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"By combining anti-virus scans, anti-spyware scans, and firewall protection into a single package"
Hey, lets not forget their biggest contribution, a terribly buggy OS that has holes in it you can drive a truck (much less a virus) through. Personnally I think that's what they should be most proud of! Now they can charge you even MORE to to protect you from their bugs and on a subscription basis too!! Very nice of them if you ask me.....
Hey buddy, you wouldn't want to get sick or nothing would ya? Well, for a price I can make sure you and the family stay real healthy. You wouldn't want anything to happen to your family would ya? I didn't think so.....
That's the difference between a Computer Scientist and programmer. One is a career the other a job.
I respect what you're saying about providing for your family and couldn't agree more. If I had to swab out toilets to take care of my wife and kids, that's what I'd do. On the other hand, I've educated myself to be a professional. To just be doing the job to pay the bills is sad. I can think of a lot easier things to do than be a programmer for the same money. My wife is a balloon artist (no ed. past HS) and she makes about $125 and hour and has a blast doing it. I hate working in a language thats going to change (or evaporate like the old VB) based on MS's business whims. That's why I stick with OSS when I can and I push it when and where ever I can. Do what you like, I say, but don't do it for the money, do it because you love it. Otherwise, you damage a profession for those of us that do it out of a love for what we do and are constantly going in after the folks that were just in it to make a buck.
Yeah, but what about the artist? I mean, don't they have the absolute right to deny anything freak'in thing they've ever written, uttered or excreted from public use until every last penny has been wrung from it? I mean, com'on. We're not about knowledge or sharing. We're about money. More is better. To hell with bettering ourselves or others. Let's just get rich and crap on the rest of the world. Yeah, that's the ticket.....
>> That's right, boy.
Listen punk, anytime you're man enough to call me boy face to face you stop by and go for it. Otherwise show respect or shut up.
>>We all are poor suckers, and the fact that we already burned 70% of all fossile >>energy grown in millions of years clearly displays our lack of power compared to >>God's Will.
You're obviously and idiot. They just found an oil field containing more oil than all that under the middle east (who have estimated that they can continue to provide oil, even allowing for current levels of increase, for the next 150 years) in Canada. Several oil fields larger than this exist jus off the southern coast of America. ANWR contains substantial reserves as well. These are just the ones I (a non-petroleum engineer) am aware of. I'm certain there are many more. Why don't you start walking to work. The rest of us will just go on raping the earth waiting for oil to run out, 'kay?
>>That's why we believe in God: It's always God's Will, no matter what you do, God's >>Will will act through you. That's why George W. Bush converted from drunkard to >>Christian: It's even easier to act without the use of a minimum of brains.
Well, I'm glad you believe in God, other than that I think you'd better get a little more into prayer for your mental state. You sound a little psychotic. I love the drunken Bush comment. Who'd you vote for? John, shot himself in the ass with a rocket launcher, Kerry. Yeah he's a real winner. Sorta like you......
In theory of course.
Considering Kevin has never written a line of code in his life (his MO was always that of a script kiddy) I can just imagine how much he's learned studying the sources for systems he wants to break into. He's much more into tricking stupid users into telling him their password than any real "system" hacking. He's always depending on the analysis (and code) of others for any system cracking.
Nice that he can make a living out this stuff though. Just goes to show that working hard for a degree and doing an honest days work is still the most boring and least rewarding way to make a living in this country. Of course that 4+ years in prison thing doesn't sound like much fun either.....
Just keep saying it, that'll make it true!! (I'm worth millions, I'm worth millions, I'm worth millions.....)
Give me a break. Start worrying about things humans do control, not the things they wish they controlled. The more you beat your chest about global warming and how humans are causing it, the more silly you sound. Do the science. It's like pissing in the ocean and saying you killed the whales. As much as we wish we were that powerful, we are not and, hopefully, never will be.
Everyone here is talking about XM and Sirus without even considering the tidelwave that's coming this year. HD radio, that's terrestrial broadcast, with multicast capability has been growing now for three years and is now getting ready for prime time. This is the year that the HD consortium (mostly Clear Channel, Infinity and a few other radio biggies) really push this thing into the world.
Start buying digital recievers and do your recording now. There's no DRM yet (trust me, I know) and the way development (and sales) is going it will be some time before there is. The RIAA may own the legislature and lots of congressmen but this country is still made of a hell of lot more non-lawyers than lawyers. Let 'em sue 'till they're blue. Once the politians (you know, poly for many, and tics for blood sucking parasites) learn that they loose votes when they back DRM, they'll worm their way back to opposing it. The scum have always played both sides, why would they change now?
If you really want a solution, get in there and vote. Send the bastards home that don't do as their told by their bosses (you know, US!).
I'm 41 and I still work as a full time programmer but I'm an underware model for big and tall men in my spare time.........
I wish someone would develop a $100 big screen HDTV for those of us living in the undeveloped wilds of suburban America. Think of the benefit that would be brought to humanity by allowing the less priviledged to enjoy Family Guy and Futurama on a 12 foot HD screen.
"Florida has standards set at 140 MPH because it is practical"
m for Florida specifically) anywhere in the US as far as I recall. I wrote several programs to calculate wind load for steel buildings and I can tell you for a fact that no one is going to build homes (I'm not talking commercial here but residential 1 to 3 story structures) that can withstand more than 120 MPH wind. Some may be able to withstand more than that but they're not designed for it. It costs too much and requires special structural designs that just are not typically done. 275 MPH loads for residential would get you some great laughs at a civil engineering convention....
No, basic wind speed never exceeds 120 MPH (according to the IBC 2003? Also see http://www.rinker.com/florida/RCo_BuildingCode.ht
So now music downloaders are in the same catagory as rapists and murderers?
Is "Justice Department" really the right name for this organization.....
"What this article tries to convey is that a pandemic is definitely coming"
Horse pucky! Between global warming, the coming nuclear war, the FACT that
we're going to be hit by a meteor (comet, asteroid, whatever) I wonder why
we bother to get up in the morning. Oh, I know, so we can BUY OR PAY FOR OUR
FAVORITE NEWS OUTLET TO TELL US WHAT'S GOING TO KILL US NEXT!!!!!
Live today like it's your last and you'll be happier and a get a lot more
out of life.
Somewhere in Hell....
Ring, Ring...
Hello...
Hello Satan?
Yeah...
This is God, I've got a little patent law thing I need you to look into for me...
Yes, and my weatherman predicted rain all week too. Fortunately for me weather predications are so reliable I'm out in my lawn chair reading Slashdot....
It's interesting how no one would bother to predict the temperture to the tenth
of a degree on a day to day basis (78.6 degrees today and 78.9 degrees tomorrow)
but they do it for time spans of years all the time.... And please, don't even
go into the math. If the people making these predictions had half the imagination
they needed to think of the hundreds (thousands) of things that account for
temperature at any given time, they'd have heads 5 feet wide (and be very easy to
spot in a crowd...).
THESE ARE NOT PREDICTIONS, THEY'RE GUESSES BASED ON FUNDING....
Just goes to show....
You build a better mouse trap.... and some stinking Harvard MBA dropout will steal it, make a bad copy and sell it for a lot less!!
Here's a look at Kevin's record. Still think he was abused?
There's no way he didn't get what he deserved.
Kevin Mitnick's criminal record:
1981
Where: California
Charge: Computer fraud for stealing computer manuals from Pacific Bell
Sentence: One year probation
1987
Where: California
Charge: Computer fraud (no details available)
Sentence: Pleaded guilty, but sentence unknown
==> According to Cyberpunk (Markoff and Hafner) Kevin claims he manipulated the FBI's
system to delete his outstanding warrent. Who know's, maybe he did maybe he didn't.
1989
Where: California
Charges: Computer fraud and possession of unauthorized access devices for hacking into MCI and Digital Equipment computers
Sentence: One year in low-security prison and three years of supervised release
Time Served: One year, much of it at a halfway house for people with compulsive disorders
1992
Where: California
Charges: Computer fraud and possession of unauthorized access devices for allegedly hacking into state Department of Motor Vehicles computers
Sentence: Charges still pending
1995
Where: North Carolina
Charge: Possession of unauthorized access devices
Sentence: Eight months
Time served: Eight months
Where: California
Charge: Violation of supervised release
Sentence: Fourteen months
Time served: Fourteen months
1996
Where: California
Charges: Computer fraud, wire fraud and possession of unauthorized access devices
Sentence: Subject to terms of plea bargain
Here he eventually paid $4000 restitution and was released in January of 2000.
I've got nothing against Mitnick personaly. I've gotten great entertainment from
the books written on his exploits. Hell, I even read his book on security (wasn't
very good though). But there's been no injustice here. The claim that he spent so
much time in jail without being charged is silly. He already had enough outstanding
changes to keep him there a very long time. Eventually he made a deal, served the
remaining time and was released. I wish him luck. Unlike many people here I think
he's done great to exploit the masses that admire him to make a chunk of money and
stay out of trouble. Good for him!
"Here's a few fucking hints you ignorant twat:"
What are you, some little punk? I wish I could see you face to face buddy boy.
No doubt you'd be afraid of the big abusive facist..
"1. Physical property loss and damage do not compare to a strict financial lost (security
audits, re-securing systems, re-engineering security procedures). So you can take your
analogy with the car and house and slide it up your rectum sideways."
See my previous comment. You're a moron! So genius, property doesn't equal finance eh?
Tell your realtor that the next time you try to buy some property boy. Maybe they'll
help educate your little pea brain.
"2.Punishment ought to fit the crime. What crime does the punishment of 3 years of
near solitary confinement without formal charges fit into?
Now, locking a person up for 3 years without charges or access to a lawyer, that's
FACIST."
You obviously haven't read anything not written in 2600 magazine. You know nothing of
this case. Why do you pretend you do? Kevin David Mitnick made a deal bud. He admitted,
and bragged about, most of his crimes in conversations with John Littman (The Fugitive
Game). He did the crime and he did his time. The fact that he served his time in the
way that best protected him from the general population at Lompoc is something only
his guards could speak to. Maybe he needed the protection. Lot's of real friendly types
in Lompoc. You'd probably love it.
"Do you see me arguing that Mitnick did zero harm? Fuck no. Do you see me arguing that
Mitnick is a worthy role-model? Fuck no. Kevin Mitnick is the poster child for the abuse
of police power. That's why people like me come out of the woodwork to put down the ignorant.
The man could have drowned puppies while robbing banks and I would still be here defending
him if he was locked up for 3 years without formal charges or legal counsel. If a person
has commited a crime, arrest them and give them their day in court. The rights of the
accused are important to all citizens."
People like you? Morons of the world unite! You have only your ignorance to lose! You're
defending someone that admitted to committing dozens of criminal offenses who then paid
$4000 in restitution and served a total of 5 years in Federal prison. If he didn't want
to serve the time why did he commit the crime and why did he admit it? He had his day in
court, he had a lawyer, and justice was served. What the hell do you want. "Well, he just
caused financial loss so he should just have his hand slapped." Guess what, he had been
busted for similar things twice before! Ever hear of three stikes and you're out? Maybe
we should all just do whatever the hell we want to and let the chips fall where they may.
I'm all for it buddy but I don't think geniuses like you would last long. You better pray
the cops you accuse of so much abuse are around to keep your pansy ass out of trouble!
Really man, get a life! Mitnick's not whining about it, why are you?
Great! I guess we should just rob your house and steal your car so that
you can thank us for teaching you about security! Of course anyone that
insists on punishment for wrong doing is a facist. You're a moron! Pick
better role models and you won't be disappointed.
"..... you obviously do NOT have a clue about the kevin story ...kevin didn't do much of anything wrong, he never harmed a soul,"
Who doesn't know much about the Kevin story? This jerk caused
a ton of problems for all kinds of people. Including ISP's,
baby bells, cell phone service providers and the FBI. I know
several people who had to clean up the mess he made. He got
1/10th punishment that he deserved. If this is someone you
admire you need to seriously rethink your life!!
"question: Is the closed source code of Windows preventing us from actively defending our systems?"
Of course not! Nothing MS and Co has done, so far, can stop you from running [LU]nix or Mac OSX!!
I'm just glad to see that Microsoft has learned it's lessons
about monopolistic practices......
I agree with your RAIC (have done that myself) but you can do even better with two (or three) monitors with various systems KVM'd (preferably KB switched KVM, to keep it neat) to each. I will typically have my fastest sytem running on the two 21's (still CRT's, poor me) to my right, while I have Windows or another Linux machine being displayed on the 21 to the far left. I've been able to pick up 21" CRT's for less than $150 for at least 2 years so now anyone can have an awesome setup. I've got a fourth 20" SGI Octane monitor further down to the left but no KVM for him. Helps to have a really strong table....
"Software in general, whether it was from Microsoft or somebody else, was not set up for an environment where all the computers were connected together."
Geez!! Sun's very motto (ten years ago) was the network IS the computer! How oblivious can he be...
>> "Have you RTFA?"
Read The Following Article? Hang on, I'll get back to you....