Actually, I think Miss Portman has much better taste and style than to be seen with a person of your obviously expensive psychiatric problems.
If you are a big supporter of Scientology and want to disrupt any competent discussion about this article, then you have a good start towards that goal. But I don't see anyone applauding your methods and I doubt that any serious Scientologists would appreciate your methods.
I seem to remember pictures of Bill G and Bill C playing golf together before the 1995 DOJ anti-trust slap on the wrist. You know, the decree that MS basically got to author themselves saying that they were sorry for smacking DR-Dos and some other software developers around. This time around, the Clinton administration didn't get the ball rolling even after some congressional hearings and a lot of proding from Republicans.
The DOJ didn't get involved until 20 states had already joined together to file suit. The DOJ was starting to look like they were more interested in protecting a Clinton friend and then had to take action to save face.
Nope. You are both wrong. Anyone who has worked around computers any length of time knows that the barley only goes into the cd-rom drive and the mashed potatoes go into the DAT drive. Otherwise, slowly pour the glucose drink into the power supply for an experience you will never forget.:)
p.s. I'm JOKING. Anyone who tries this will be banished to iMac land forever.
Gallium-Arsenide based chips are still quite expensive to make and are mosttly used for military or sensitive hardware that needs to be resistive to EMP pulses ( like nuclear blasts ). Silicon is the cheap route for the masses. Personnaly, I will probably have more to worry about if we have a nuclear war than running Unreal Tournament or writing applications. Then again, hopefully I could still read/. in a post-nuclear war age...:)
Can you compare it to a palm? Is it faster, does it run all your other palm apps? Did you get the blue one?:) In general, what are your impressions of the quality, workmanship, etc...?
Can you think of any more annoying questions I could ask?
I have also heard from informed sources that they have had *very* good results with the preliminary Athlon batches from the Dresden fab. One of the later reports claimed that AMD engineers had sucessfully run multiple CPUs in the 900Mhz range with nothing more than large heatsink and fan cooling units from "rough" pre-production wafers.
These comments are about a month and a half old and I've heard no more specifics. If this is an indication of production quantity yield, then I think AMD will finally get some of the rewards they have worked for so long and hard.
p.s. For the folks that whine that people don't really need a 1Ghz cpu, I still have a fully functional 486-33 with 4megs ram and a 200meg HD that was quite fast when it was new. I'll trade it to you for that P-III 500 that is way too fast for your applications. Then you can run your apps at a more relaxed pace. Watch the apps grow in size and complexity for a couple of cpu generations and you won't be confused about the need or desire for faster systems...;)
Yes, I did indeed read the article. I was hoping that someone would have more info on whether this will effect rambus and sdram i820 systems or just rambus configurations. But thanks for the advice and stock updates. Long live AMD and VIA..:)
I wondwr if this will hit the sdram based boards. They are just going to have a memory protocol adapting chip in between the i820 memory controller and the memory slots. If the problem is in being able to control three slots properly, wouldn't this effect *all* i820 boards with three memory slots (all that have been made so far)?
Parasoft demoed their Magnate POS application and it looked very good and complete. It is a web server that allows an instant e-commerce solution too. The old url is still available at http://www.parasoft.com/products/magnate/ , but the new site format dosen't mention the product as far as I could find. They have clients worldwide using magnate, so surely they still sell it.
It had support for cash drawers, and most common barcode scanners, etc... IIRC.
I was hopeful when I saw the server rpms on the D3 cd that something more may come. Thanks guys, this will be way better than the Civ:CTP for Linux that I bought.
Hmmmm.. I thought that Slashdot was the special linux site for kids.;) This is a linux-centric site that also has other news. I like it that way and it seems that I have millions of friends that like it too. Please do go and start your own Yahoo chat group for people that think NT dosen't deserve ridicule and say hello to all the MS employees while you are there.
I just had a lovely 4 hours sleep after dealing with NT4ws barfing repeatedly with a PFN_List_Corrupt bsod. According to MS, this is "Caused by corrupting I/O driver structures. If the kernel debugger is available, get a stack trace". The cause? A corrupted dos filesystem from a previous crash a few minutes before. NT couldn't fix the filesystem errors it caused and trashed because a filesystem was corrupt. The result? More corruption on another dos filesystem. When you claim that people "take shots at NT for no good reason", remember that many of them are made by people with years of experience with NT that are disgusted with the flaws. My problems are with a fresh installation of NT4ws with sp5. My Linux system is running nicely and dosen't do random things that cost me time and hair for no reason. I have been running NT since 3.51 which is longer than I've been using Linux. I know which I prefer and why I prefer it.
The first Nvidia release for Xfree86 is a pipe/stream based solution. This will change when the DRI solution is integrated into XFree86 4.0. What it means to be stream based is that I can run an opengl app on a remote system and display it on my local Linux box with hardware acceleration. But by sending everything through a named pipe to the X server, you don't get complete acceleration.
What I have seen of the DRI implementations seem very speed competitive with windows systems. I can't remember specific numbers but seems like it was within about 10% on some of the unstable stuff at Linux Expo '99 ( they didn't have a mouse on the system 'cause if you moved the window, X would crash). It got much better after that.
Nope. The whole point is to get root *access* which isn't the same thing as having the root password. Simple security disallows telnet as root. You telnet in as a regular user and then su to change user level ( or use secure shell).
No. The keys aren't being checked in sequence. IIRC, they have a pseudo-random block distribution scheme that distributes fairly evenly across the bit space. Then consider the clients that don't have internet access and only process random blocks.
Interesting indeed. No real problems for me on win95, 98, NT4ws, NT4server, W2KB3, RH 5.1, RH 6, Caldera 2.2, SuSE 6.1 or debian 2.0. Varying versions of netscape on all. Video cards range too. Voodoo3, TNT, riva128, i740, trident pci, s3 trio, s3 trio3d/2x, cyrix media/gx builtin video, crappy old isa tseng and trident vga cards.
"Among the many brilliant ideas that have sustained Microsoft is vaporware. That's when you stifle an opponent's new-product release by leaking news that you're about to release a similar product that's even better. Maybe you never release it, or do so only years later. What's important is that you've killed the buzz about your competitor's product."
Wow! Now the same tactics that got IBM into their big anti-trust lawsuit has become a stroke of genius for M$? Who needs to concern themselves with understanding computing history when they can get all the info they need in a M$ press release. Don't people have to have any brain cells at all to be a journalist and influence millions with their smartly worded drivel? Yup, maybe the DOJ needs to call this guy as a witless.. err.. witness.
I'm pretty sure they were refering to programmers working on all of Linux and all of W2K. If you want to talk about the number of Linux kernel developers, talk to MS and see if they will give you the number of people they have doing W2K kernel development. I doubt they want to give out those numbers. I also think the moderator mislabeled when they boosted the post.
I didn't say it was *just* the Linux community that is maturing. I was refering to the people that develop and lead the Linux community, not Linux itself. I think that is an important distinction. The *BSD community seems to have a reputation for a little more level headed leadership overall than some of the Linux segments do. I don't really see what you got riled up about.
An understanding of software as complex as an operating system and support applications isn't easy to come by. Many people don't trust the Linux and OpenSource communities because they see the bickering and wonder if it will last. They stick with what is the 'standard' because they are sure it has a future. The more that we can put aside our minor differences of opinion about methodology and approach and focus on the large issues that we agree on, the more progress and support will grow. That is much easier to implement on new projects, but is possible on existing work.
Just so you know, I have an official OpenBSD 2.5 CD pack sitting in front of me and parts on order to finish a third system to run it on. I bought it from the OpenBSD booth at Linux Expo '99. I bet they would be confused by your attitude and response too.
I think that more than just a (some) killer app(s), many people have been waiting for more mature attitudes and perspectives from most or all of the leaders in the Linux community. This is a great sign and, to me anyway, just about guarantees that Linux will be appreciated and used more and more as a primary desktop platform.
I really hope that AMD can sell these at a reasonable profit. If not, we probably won't see a K8 or beyond. Any idea of selling price for CPU, motherboards and complete systems?
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You have convinced me that you must be a Scientoligist trying to completely disrupt any discussion here.
You have also convinced me that Scientologists and M$ actually deserve each other.
Actually, I think Miss Portman has much better taste and style than to be seen with a person of your obviously expensive psychiatric problems.
If you are a big supporter of Scientology and want to disrupt any competent discussion about this article, then you have a good start towards that goal. But I don't see anyone applauding your methods and I doubt that any serious Scientologists would appreciate your methods.
Have a good day and may God bless you.
From the article:
"The bug has not been found in mobile Pentium III chips, according to Intel."
I seem to remember pictures of Bill G and Bill C playing golf together before the 1995 DOJ anti-trust slap on the wrist. You know, the decree that MS basically got to author themselves saying that they were sorry for smacking DR-Dos and some other software developers around. This time around, the Clinton administration didn't get the ball rolling even after some congressional hearings and a lot of proding from Republicans.
The DOJ didn't get involved until 20 states had already joined together to file suit. The DOJ was starting to look like they were more interested in protecting a Clinton friend and then had to take action to save face.
Nope. You are both wrong. Anyone who has worked around computers any length of time knows that the barley only goes into the cd-rom drive and the mashed potatoes go into the DAT drive. Otherwise, slowly pour the glucose drink into the power supply for an experience you will never forget. :)
p.s. I'm JOKING. Anyone who tries this will be banished to iMac land forever.
Gallium-Arsenide based chips are still quite expensive to make and are mosttly used for military or sensitive hardware that needs to be resistive to EMP pulses ( like nuclear blasts ). /. in a post-nuclear war age... :)
Silicon is the cheap route for the masses. Personnaly, I will probably have more to worry about if we have a nuclear war than running Unreal Tournament or writing applications. Then again, hopefully I could still read
Can you compare it to a palm? Is it faster, does it run all your other palm apps? Did you get the blue one? :) In general, what are your impressions of the quality, workmanship, etc...?
Can you think of any more annoying questions I could ask?
Thanks
I have also heard from informed sources that they have had *very* good results with the preliminary Athlon batches from the Dresden fab. One of the later reports claimed that AMD engineers had sucessfully run multiple CPUs in the 900Mhz range with nothing more than large heatsink and fan cooling units from "rough" pre-production wafers.
;)
These comments are about a month and a half old and I've heard no more specifics. If this is an indication of production quantity yield, then I think AMD will finally get some of the rewards they have worked for so long and hard.
p.s. For the folks that whine that people don't really need a 1Ghz cpu, I still have a fully functional 486-33 with 4megs ram and a 200meg HD that was quite fast when it was new. I'll trade it to you for that P-III 500 that is way too fast for your applications. Then you can run your apps at a more relaxed pace. Watch the apps grow in size and complexity for a couple of cpu generations and you won't be confused about the need or desire for faster systems...
Yes, I did indeed read the article. I was hoping that someone would have more info on whether this will effect rambus and sdram i820 systems or just rambus configurations. But thanks for the advice and stock updates. Long live AMD and VIA.. :)
...not half of 768megs.
I wondwr if this will hit the sdram based boards. They are just going to have a memory protocol adapting chip in between the i820 memory controller and the memory slots. If the problem is in being able to control three slots properly, wouldn't this effect *all* i820 boards with three memory slots (all that have been made so far)?
All intel i820 boards that use rambus memory and three memory slots have potential problems corrupting data. Isn't this going to be fun.. NOT!
Parasoft demoed their Magnate POS application and it looked very good and complete. It is a web server that allows an instant e-commerce solution too. The old url is still available at http://www.parasoft.com/products/magnate/ , but the new site format dosen't mention the product as far as I could find. They have clients worldwide using magnate, so surely they still sell it.
It had support for cash drawers, and most common barcode scanners, etc... IIRC.
I was hopeful when I saw the server rpms on the D3 cd that something more may come. Thanks guys, this will be way better than the Civ:CTP for Linux that I bought.
Hmmmm.. I thought that Slashdot was the special linux site for kids. ;) This is a linux-centric site that also has other news. I like it that way and it seems that I have millions of friends that like it too. Please do go and start your own Yahoo chat group for people that think NT dosen't deserve ridicule and say hello to all the MS employees while you are there.
I just had a lovely 4 hours sleep after dealing with NT4ws barfing repeatedly with a PFN_List_Corrupt bsod. According to MS, this is "Caused by corrupting I/O driver structures. If the kernel debugger is available, get a stack trace". The cause? A corrupted dos filesystem from a previous crash a few minutes before. NT couldn't fix the filesystem errors it caused and trashed because a filesystem was corrupt. The result? More corruption on another dos filesystem. When you claim that people "take shots at NT for no good reason", remember that many of them are made by people with years of experience with NT that are disgusted with the flaws. My problems are with a fresh installation of NT4ws with sp5. My Linux system is running nicely and dosen't do random things that cost me time and hair for no reason. I have been running NT since 3.51 which is longer than I've been using Linux. I know which I prefer and why I prefer it.
From AMD's website
Athlon/
K7 -- SPECfp95 - SPECint95
650 - 22.4 -------- 29.4
600 - 21.6 -------- 27.2
550 - 20.6 -------- 25.1
Very nice numbers. Sorry for the formatting, no tables.
The first Nvidia release for Xfree86 is a pipe/stream based solution. This will change when the DRI solution is integrated into XFree86 4.0. What it means to be stream based is that I can run an opengl app on a remote system and display it on my local Linux box with hardware acceleration. But by sending everything through a named pipe to the X server, you don't get complete acceleration.
What I have seen of the DRI implementations seem very speed competitive with windows systems. I can't remember specific numbers but seems like it was within about 10% on some of the unstable stuff at Linux Expo '99 ( they didn't have a mouse on the system 'cause if you moved the window, X would crash). It got much better after that.
Nope. The whole point is to get root *access* which isn't the same thing as having the root password. Simple security disallows telnet as root. You telnet in as a regular user and then su to change user level ( or use secure shell).
No. The keys aren't being checked in sequence. IIRC, they have a pseudo-random block distribution scheme that distributes fairly evenly across the bit space. Then consider the clients that don't have internet access and only process random blocks.
Interesting indeed. No real problems for me on win95, 98, NT4ws, NT4server, W2KB3, RH 5.1, RH 6, Caldera 2.2, SuSE 6.1 or debian 2.0. Varying versions of netscape on all. Video cards range too. Voodoo3, TNT, riva128, i740, trident pci, s3 trio, s3 trio3d/2x, cyrix media/gx builtin video, crappy old isa tseng and trident vga cards.
"Among the many brilliant ideas that have sustained Microsoft is vaporware. That's when you stifle an opponent's new-product release by leaking news that you're about to release a similar product that's even better. Maybe you never release it, or do so only years later. What's important is that you've killed the buzz
about your competitor's product."
Wow! Now the same tactics that got IBM into their big anti-trust lawsuit has become a stroke of genius for M$? Who needs to concern themselves with understanding computing history when they can get all the info they need in a M$ press release. Don't people have to have any brain cells at all to be a journalist and influence millions with their smartly worded drivel? Yup, maybe the DOJ needs to call this guy as a witless.. err.. witness.
I'm pretty sure they were refering to programmers working on all of Linux and all of W2K. If you want to talk about the number of Linux kernel developers, talk to MS and see if they will give you the number of people they have doing W2K kernel development. I doubt they want to give out those numbers. I also think the moderator mislabeled when they boosted the post.
I didn't say it was *just* the Linux community that is maturing. I was refering to the people that develop and lead the Linux community, not Linux itself. I think that is an important distinction. The *BSD community seems to have a reputation for a little more level headed leadership overall than some of the Linux segments do. I don't really see what you got riled up about.
An understanding of software as complex as an operating system and support applications isn't easy to come by. Many people don't trust the Linux and OpenSource communities because they see the bickering and wonder if it will last. They stick with what is the 'standard' because they are sure it has a future. The more that we can put aside our minor differences of opinion about methodology and approach and focus on the large issues that we agree on, the more progress and support will grow. That is much easier to implement on new projects, but is possible on existing work.
Just so you know, I have an official OpenBSD 2.5 CD pack sitting in front of me and parts on order to finish a third system to run it on. I bought it from the OpenBSD booth at Linux Expo '99. I bet they would be confused by your attitude and response too.
I think that more than just a (some) killer app(s), many people have been waiting for more mature attitudes and perspectives from most or all of the leaders in the Linux community. This is a great sign and, to me anyway, just about guarantees that Linux will be appreciated and used more and more as a primary desktop platform.
:)
Now, back to Civ:CTP
I really hope that AMD can sell these at a reasonable profit. If not, we probably won't see a K8 or beyond. Any idea of selling price for CPU, motherboards and complete systems?