Also, you shouldn't need to cry "my religious beliefs!" for something like this to be a valid claim.
I absolutely agree. I'm pretty tired of all the people who shout intolerance when they're the ones who're being intolerant. I understand this isn't exactly the case here but like another poster mentioned, the rules should apply to everyone or no one. It's unfortunate that this has to involve the courts, however, they will decide if this has any weight. It's not like I'm all for "chipping" people, far from it, I value my privacy and I also use a mobile phone. I understand there are a great many benefits to having on my person, and I also understand leaving it behind. With respect to the badges I don't see this as a giant privacy issue, its automating an existing process. Either way, if its a good system or a bad one time will tell.
Hey funny guy, the article mentions they object on religious beliefs.
So only criminals or animals make use of RFID? Walmart clothes must be criminals. I certainly hope you appreciate the irony if you use a mobile phone, since that actually broadcasts your location instead of simply responding.
No TOS, no code of conduct, no contract, no employer's regulations, NOTHING supersedes your rights as established by law.
Let's use an NDA, or a Security Clearance as an example. NDAs are contracts. These contracts restrict you from talking about something you otherwise would be able to. You could still do it, but you'll be facing penalties for doing so. These are not 'rolling over and playing dead' these are agreements entered into willingly. If you break the agreement it means your word is worthless, how about not agreeing to something you otherwise have no intention of doing.
What if a criminal wants to know your location so they can commit a crime against you?
If you're really arguing this, I hope you don't use a mobile phone, make exclusive use of VPNs, never post to a site like slashdot that doesn't use SSL, disable JavaScript, only connect through WIFI points, don't use email (since its sent unencrypted) and pay cash for everything. Also you don't leave the house (otherwise a criminal may follow you home to commit a crime, since they can identify you using your license plate, they're unique after all!) or talk to anyone since they might commit a crime against you, since statistically you're most likely to get raped by a friend or family member. Also you boycott stores which use RFID tags to track inventory since the technology is inherently evil.
How do you think services like AppHarbor and Azure work? You don't get one OS instance per website process, thats for sure.
I'm aware that Windows can host more than a single site. Azure runs on a VPS or a dedicated machine. Otherwise, how do users remotely login and manage their sites, remote desktop? I don't know of any setups where they operate that way.
It's fine for small projects and it can, with difficulty, be scaled up for large ones (there are real-world examples aplenty), but if you are designing a big project from the ground up, ASP.NET might be a reasonable choice.
While I know it wasn't all ASP.net are we talking London Stock Exchange big? There are some additional hidden costs when using a Microsoft tool chain such as SQL Server license(s) and Windows Server license(s). If you're designing a big project this is where Java shines (I'm not a Java guy either). At the end of the day they're tools to get the job done and infrastructure considerations are part of the project.
Not sure if windows can do that, but that would explain why patching might be terminated.
I think we'll have seen everything by that point. The only Windows servers I've seen are either VPS or dedicated machines.
I recall a few PHP upgrades that broke a lot of things on LAMP stacks.
Sounds like someone didn't do their unit tests. The same thing can happen with any software which hasn't been vetted. Most shared hosts support multiple versions of PHP.
Thanks for your reply. I'm a firm believer in charity, and giving willingly to good causes or causes I support which are managed properly.
After all, that's what money does, right? Makes people do things?
If I understand your argument correctly and I offered someone $1 they'd do something for it without question, because it makes them do it? I'd argue that money is a motivating factor, but so is hunger, ultimately it boils down to what that person wants.
Allowing your schools to make a rule that intrudes on religious freedom (whether or not you agree with the religion or it's interpretation of the rule is NOT in fact relevant) is NO different from allowing the president to ban the practise of Islam.
The burden of an immigrant to adapt to society is upon them, not the other way around. Why are all these people claiming intolerance when they refuse to do as the locals do? This isn't advancing any cause for tolerating them.
Because the military is a bastion of order, values, and leadership? Are you highly considering a move to a country with mandatory military service? Just curious, how many years have you served? There are distinct opinions held by soldiers who've served.
Good eye, the reason I prefixed that with the weasel word 'arguably' is because I think a better metric for seeing what people use would come from ISPs. Statcounter does indeed run on a variety of sites but it depends on what type of visitors these sites attract to collect info. For example, if you used the w3 site as an example, you'd see some browsers over represented due to developers testing things. Also IE8 is the most recent version of IE supported on Windows XP which still has a massive installed base. Just something to consider =)
Thanks for doubling down on the slight of hand, where you again compare mobile to desktop operating systems.
Did you even read what was linked? I linked to the Wiki for OS X, and last I checked OS X is not iOS. Here are the links yet again, Look at the release dates, look at the last update (not security fixes without addressing bugs).
You're honestly ignoring the fact that you were wrong on "only three years of updates", or honestly ignoring why XP has gotten updates for as long as it has?
I don't consider something that receives a security patch without addressing any bugs "updates", especially when its been a year since the last "update" to patch glaring flaws that they're dragging their feet to address. Apple likes to support the last two releases, beyond that you're own your own.
Two problems Apple has not had. Honestly.
Apple had other problems, like shifting architectures (How's running your Power PC stuff working out now, gotta rebuy all your software!), Apple isn't some paragon of security either, Pwn2Own they're the first to drop, and last to get 64bit kernel (2009, woot!).
Because if all the file type require patent licenses, no matter how trivial, then the final spec can NEVER BE FREE. That prevents Linux from taking a foothold.
If the standard allows even one truly free spec, then it forces the other players to a level field. In the case of Apple it's their media tools like iMovie that maintain their edge in looking more integrated. In Microsoft's case it's licenses for server tools to distribute these files.
Because if all the file type require patent licenses, no matter how trivial, then the final spec can NEVER BE FREE. That prevents Linux from taking a foothold.
It's no longer about simply being in a standard and Apple exclusively, as you claimed, making "its bank off" of patents? The spec isn't about making something free, it's about an agreed upon way to do things.
That prevents Linux from taking a foothold.
Linux is doing quite well, and there are plenty of proprietary solutions which involve Linux. RTS and Redhat was featured on/. just the other day. If it weren't doing quite well it wouldn't be on everything from appliances, phones to supercomputers. There is a very valid reason for proprietary technologies, they're good at what they do.
If the standard allows even one truly free spec, then it forces the other players to a level field.
The post I replied to wasn't about freeness or a level playingfield, its specifically about HTML5 being a draft that isn't complete because its a work in progress. It's a draft because there are a large number of people involved in implementing it in browsers which run on a variety of different platforms and devices. The spec is being split apart to speed things up with consideration to technologies like WebSockets and HTML Canvas etc. HTML has historically not required particular formats for anything.
In the case of Apple it's their media tools like iMovie that maintain their edge in looking more integrated. In Microsoft's case it's licenses for server tools to distribute these files.
The spec lets the developer select by mime type, if a developer uses something which isn't covered by MPEG LA such as Theora, neither Apple or Microsoft benefits. Purpose of the markup is to display content; not all content on the web is or should be free. If that's the case, you've got an issue with copyright, not patent licensing holding up a specification. Ultimately it comes down to content creators choosing how they want to release their content, one effective way to influence people is to provide a better solution. Although, there are many ways to define better...
Because being in a STANDARD determines winners... And big companies DON'T WANT FREE TO WIN. All the features were available at the time. The issue was not TECHNICAL it was POLITICAL Apple makes its bank off all the patents it pays to access.. Allowing "free" undermines their position because anybody can play in "their" garden.
So the reason for HTML5 not being done is because companies keep adding more proprietary crap, specifically Apple, because doing so promotes their bottom line and enables users to access their walled garden? The MPEG LA is comprised of these companies of which Apple is but one, so by that argument all of these companies benefit from access to Apple's walled garden. How's that work out for Microsoft? If only the standard allowed you to specify video by mimetype!
or keep using the extension even after that feature has been standardized.
The logic for leaving the non standard features which've been standardized is to offer support for the older browsers, you know the users who can't or won't upgrade who still represent market share on the site. It's one thing to say a new browser is released, it's another to have everyone upgrade to it. I'd like to point out the "Windows XP" effect. The goal of the site is to work in as many places as it can and this is one way to achieve that.
It's been a long time since anybody could legitimately blame Microsoft for standards compliance in IE.
I'm not sure how you're able to say that with a straight face. I'm pretty sure you don't do any form of web development otherwise you'd be aware of the coddling IE requires to achieve what many other browsers do "out of the box".
Another interesting thing about this kickstarter is that if it succeeds they plan on remaking all of the games. At present they're only licensed to do the first.
I understand your view point, the focus isn't so much about how a company raises money but the goal. The lead is the one who created a massive geeky franchise, one which included Mark Hamill. It's not like the story is promoting crowd funding for this project (note the deadline). You can also filter out the game stuff, since most of them are filed under that and you can be back to stuff like rights on line and year of the linux desktop variety stories.
Likewise, I feel if anyone is able to pull this off it'll be him. He has a track record. I can't wait for the alpha, and the fact that they'll be supporting flight sim hardware has a few of my friends excited as well.
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Also, you shouldn't need to cry "my religious beliefs!" for something like this to be a valid claim.
I absolutely agree. I'm pretty tired of all the people who shout intolerance when they're the ones who're being intolerant. I understand this isn't exactly the case here but like another poster mentioned, the rules should apply to everyone or no one. It's unfortunate that this has to involve the courts, however, they will decide if this has any weight. It's not like I'm all for "chipping" people, far from it, I value my privacy and I also use a mobile phone. I understand there are a great many benefits to having on my person, and I also understand leaving it behind. With respect to the badges I don't see this as a giant privacy issue, its automating an existing process. Either way, if its a good system or a bad one time will tell.
Hey funny guy, the article mentions they object on religious beliefs. So only criminals or animals make use of RFID? Walmart clothes must be criminals. I certainly hope you appreciate the irony if you use a mobile phone, since that actually broadcasts your location instead of simply responding.
No TOS, no code of conduct, no contract, no employer's regulations, NOTHING supersedes your rights as established by law.
Let's use an NDA, or a Security Clearance as an example. NDAs are contracts. These contracts restrict you from talking about something you otherwise would be able to. You could still do it, but you'll be facing penalties for doing so. These are not 'rolling over and playing dead' these are agreements entered into willingly. If you break the agreement it means your word is worthless, how about not agreeing to something you otherwise have no intention of doing.
What if a criminal wants to know your location so they can commit a crime against you?
If you're really arguing this, I hope you don't use a mobile phone, make exclusive use of VPNs, never post to a site like slashdot that doesn't use SSL, disable JavaScript, only connect through WIFI points, don't use email (since its sent unencrypted) and pay cash for everything. Also you don't leave the house (otherwise a criminal may follow you home to commit a crime, since they can identify you using your license plate, they're unique after all!) or talk to anyone since they might commit a crime against you, since statistically you're most likely to get raped by a friend or family member. Also you boycott stores which use RFID tags to track inventory since the technology is inherently evil.
But this RFID card is mandatory, which is the problem.
Attending this school is a choice, their religious beliefs are what are an issue here.
How do you think services like AppHarbor and Azure work? You don't get one OS instance per website process, thats for sure.
I'm aware that Windows can host more than a single site. Azure runs on a VPS or a dedicated machine. Otherwise, how do users remotely login and manage their sites, remote desktop? I don't know of any setups where they operate that way.
I quoted the parent who stated this, and I disagree which was the whole point of my reply. Happy Thanksgiving.
It's fine for small projects and it can, with difficulty, be scaled up for large ones (there are real-world examples aplenty), but if you are designing a big project from the ground up, ASP.NET might be a reasonable choice.
While I know it wasn't all ASP.net are we talking London Stock Exchange big? There are some additional hidden costs when using a Microsoft tool chain such as SQL Server license(s) and Windows Server license(s). If you're designing a big project this is where Java shines (I'm not a Java guy either). At the end of the day they're tools to get the job done and infrastructure considerations are part of the project.
Not sure if windows can do that, but that would explain why patching might be terminated.
I think we'll have seen everything by that point. The only Windows servers I've seen are either VPS or dedicated machines.
I recall a few PHP upgrades that broke a lot of things on LAMP stacks.
Sounds like someone didn't do their unit tests. The same thing can happen with any software which hasn't been vetted. Most shared hosts support multiple versions of PHP.
Time for a latte!
After all, that's what money does, right? Makes people do things?
If I understand your argument correctly and I offered someone $1 they'd do something for it without question, because it makes them do it? I'd argue that money is a motivating factor, but so is hunger, ultimately it boils down to what that person wants.
Allowing your schools to make a rule that intrudes on religious freedom (whether or not you agree with the religion or it's interpretation of the rule is NOT in fact relevant) is NO different from allowing the president to ban the practise of Islam.
The burden of an immigrant to adapt to society is upon them, not the other way around. Why are all these people claiming intolerance when they refuse to do as the locals do? This isn't advancing any cause for tolerating them.
Because the military is a bastion of order, values, and leadership? Are you highly considering a move to a country with mandatory military service? Just curious, how many years have you served? There are distinct opinions held by soldiers who've served.
Good eye, the reason I prefixed that with the weasel word 'arguably' is because I think a better metric for seeing what people use would come from ISPs. Statcounter does indeed run on a variety of sites but it depends on what type of visitors these sites attract to collect info. For example, if you used the w3 site as an example, you'd see some browsers over represented due to developers testing things. Also IE8 is the most recent version of IE supported on Windows XP which still has a massive installed base. Just something to consider =)
Thanks for doubling down on the slight of hand, where you again compare mobile to desktop operating systems.
Did you even read what was linked? I linked to the Wiki for OS X, and last I checked OS X is not iOS. Here are the links yet again, Look at the release dates, look at the last update (not security fixes without addressing bugs).
You're honestly ignoring the fact that you were wrong on "only three years of updates", or honestly ignoring why XP has gotten updates for as long as it has?
I don't consider something that receives a security patch without addressing any bugs "updates", especially when its been a year since the last "update" to patch glaring flaws that they're dragging their feet to address. Apple likes to support the last two releases, beyond that you're own your own.
Two problems Apple has not had. Honestly.
Apple had other problems, like shifting architectures (How's running your Power PC stuff working out now, gotta rebuy all your software!), Apple isn't some paragon of security either, Pwn2Own they're the first to drop, and last to get 64bit kernel (2009, woot!).
ARMA III might be the one game that makes me upgrade my 3 year old gaming boxen that can still handle any game I throw at it.
As in you have gaming 3 boxes? Is this your take on SLI? I don't always computer, but when I do, I always do!
Because if all the file type require patent licenses, no matter how trivial, then the final spec can NEVER BE FREE. That prevents Linux from taking a foothold.
If the standard allows even one truly free spec, then it forces the other players to a level field. In the case of Apple it's their media tools like iMovie that maintain their edge in looking more integrated. In Microsoft's case it's licenses for server tools to distribute these files.
Because if all the file type require patent licenses, no matter how trivial, then the final spec can NEVER BE FREE. That prevents Linux from taking a foothold.
It's no longer about simply being in a standard and Apple exclusively, as you claimed, making "its bank off" of patents? The spec isn't about making something free, it's about an agreed upon way to do things.
That prevents Linux from taking a foothold.
Linux is doing quite well, and there are plenty of proprietary solutions which involve Linux. RTS and Redhat was featured on /. just the other day. If it weren't doing quite well it wouldn't be on everything from appliances, phones to supercomputers. There is a very valid reason for proprietary technologies, they're good at what they do.
If the standard allows even one truly free spec, then it forces the other players to a level field.
The post I replied to wasn't about freeness or a level playingfield, its specifically about HTML5 being a draft that isn't complete because its a work in progress. It's a draft because there are a large number of people involved in implementing it in browsers which run on a variety of different platforms and devices. The spec is being split apart to speed things up with consideration to technologies like WebSockets and HTML Canvas etc. HTML has historically not required particular formats for anything.
In the case of Apple it's their media tools like iMovie that maintain their edge in looking more integrated. In Microsoft's case it's licenses for server tools to distribute these files.
The spec lets the developer select by mime type, if a developer uses something which isn't covered by MPEG LA such as Theora, neither Apple or Microsoft benefits. Purpose of the markup is to display content; not all content on the web is or should be free. If that's the case, you've got an issue with copyright, not patent licensing holding up a specification. Ultimately it comes down to content creators choosing how they want to release their content, one effective way to influence people is to provide a better solution. Although, there are many ways to define better...
Because being in a STANDARD determines winners... And big companies DON'T WANT FREE TO WIN. All the features were available at the time. The issue was not TECHNICAL it was POLITICAL Apple makes its bank off all the patents it pays to access.. Allowing "free" undermines their position because anybody can play in "their" garden.
So the reason for HTML5 not being done is because companies keep adding more proprietary crap, specifically Apple, because doing so promotes their bottom line and enables users to access their walled garden? The MPEG LA is comprised of these companies of which Apple is but one, so by that argument all of these companies benefit from access to Apple's walled garden. How's that work out for Microsoft? If only the standard allowed you to specify video by mimetype!
Really? Why does it still say draft with updates provided just this month? Why has slashdot featured bickering about HTML5 video support in something that is ready to be ratified for the last 3-4 years?
or keep using the extension even after that feature has been standardized.
The logic for leaving the non standard features which've been standardized is to offer support for the older browsers, you know the users who can't or won't upgrade who still represent market share on the site. It's one thing to say a new browser is released, it's another to have everyone upgrade to it. I'd like to point out the "Windows XP" effect. The goal of the site is to work in as many places as it can and this is one way to achieve that.
It's been a long time since anybody could legitimately blame Microsoft for standards compliance in IE.
I'm not sure how you're able to say that with a straight face. I'm pretty sure you don't do any form of web development otherwise you'd be aware of the coddling IE requires to achieve what many other browsers do "out of the box".
In no particular order here are some things that are encountered in the real world, and not "edge cases":
IE9 border radius + gradient hack.
Having to use a filter (directx!) to achieve effects like other browsers.
Up until IE10 limited or no support of CSS transitions and animations. Browser comparison
SVG animations.
Missing CSS3 selectors. If you really want to delve into things IE8, which is arguably the most popular IE version out there, is a worse offender than IE9.
They do not have things like mass, heat, flow, friction, stress, wear, corrosion, and a dozen other things that gears and hinges have.
True, but the control systems which drive those are typically software driven.
when a CS or software guru makes a mistake, things don't blow up and hurt people.
Mars Orbiter was due to improper units. Stuxnet software was impressive. Siberian oil pipeline explosion due to malicious software. Or medical eqipment software configured to deliver fatal x-rays, remote exploits with pace makers. Airbush crash due to software. How about software which drives Wall Street trades, surely that affects many more people? What about power outages due to improper software configurations? Here is a nice list of issues involving software.
Hard-science engineers are educated for a reason. Diligence is not optional.
Also why people who build things where lives are on the lines are licensed and bonded.
Another interesting thing about this kickstarter is that if it succeeds they plan on remaking all of the games. At present they're only licensed to do the first.
I understand your view point, the focus isn't so much about how a company raises money but the goal. The lead is the one who created a massive geeky franchise, one which included Mark Hamill. It's not like the story is promoting crowd funding for this project (note the deadline). You can also filter out the game stuff, since most of them are filed under that and you can be back to stuff like rights on line and year of the linux desktop variety stories.
Likewise, I feel if anyone is able to pull this off it'll be him. He has a track record. I can't wait for the alpha, and the fact that they'll be supporting flight sim hardware has a few of my friends excited as well.