Seriously? If you don't pics of yourself floating around, don't take them. Statistically, that's the best preventative measure. Taking them, and then UPLOADING them to a PUBLIC network is just asking for it. This concept should be common knowledge to anyone under the age of 45, regardless of their technical expertise. There's a reason people don't walk dark streets in shitty neighborhoods even though it is illegal to mug people. Use a little common sense and take a little preemptive (in)action.
The term 'Victim blaming' is just an emotional appeal designed to drive the narrative.. It's bullshit.
The problem with this brand of feminism is that it promotes the creation and expansion of 'female spaces', while telling men it's not ok for them to have theirs, or that they have to 'tolerate' the inclusion of women until they become a large percentage, which effectively kills it. There's a reason military service (until recently thanks to the same shitty politics) was strictly regimented: Coed group dynamics trigger different behavior in both sexes. It's apparently ok for women to do this everywhere:all female run companies, clubs, scholarships, hell, there's even a push to force fraternities to include women. This of course ruins the whole point of having both fraternities and sororities in the first place.
Life isn't fair. I'm sure there are plenty of CS sorts, here, who would be 'outliers' in other fields' social circles, and if they wanted in, they'd have to initially overcompensate by showing off elite skill in order to earn respect. Humans are naturally tribal. They organize themselves, by sex, by race, by culture, by trade, and by interest, and do so willingly. They prefer it. By all means, as an individual or as a group, mix it up if you want, but, as outliers, don't be surprised if you're met with hostility at times when trying to bring others in or imposing yourself on them. As far as the sexes go, with the one glaring exception of sexual pairing (which has its own separate dynamics), the two different spheres of mentality have their own spaces whose dynamics become less compatible as the stakes go up. Men and women work and think differently and that is due to radical differences in biology. They both need and deserve their spaces. For the same reason it is childish to think race ends with skin color because it ignores cultural differences, it is childish to think that men and women are the same except they have different genitals, and that any differences in performance are due to 'socially constructed' oppression. This 1970s era feminist mentality is not applicable in today's society, at least in western culture.
Yeah well, the far left 'multicultural' preach only goes one way. It's still ok and even encouraged to hold american and/or western culture (depending on context of the discussion) in contempt.
1. topology and infrastructure across sweden and 6 million swedes vs 350 million americans and many times the sq mileage. 2. The swedish government subsidizes a lot of it. I prefer to not pay for what I'm not using and keep the state out of my internet (too bad we're far from that goal). If you include the tax money paid into the subsidy it doesn't look so cheap anymore. Fuck high taxes.
The summary almost reads like a "see? your society should be more like swedens" shaming session. The swedes can keep their high income and vat taxes.
Actually oss in linux was doing it too before alsa came along. ALSA also had the feature, but it had to be configured and enabled in asound.conf. Now, alsa enables it by default for non hardware mixing devices.
1. your name and address are public information. If you want anonymity, don't use your real info online. You are suggesting thought-crime, which is, for the moment, thankfully unenforceable. Someone publicly soliciting donations for murdering someone in irc is obviously a troll, or a complete idiot, not to be taken seriously, especially over some niche thing like init systems for linux.
2. Many people complain about OSS dev culture but at the end of the day, the slightly acidic atmosphere keeps the whining at bay. To use Linus as an example, he keeps lkml on task by preventing people from creating rifts along irrelevant boundaries. Otherwise, if people like sarah sharp have their way, the spot light and focus will ossify from the intended goal and move towards her priorities. His message is clear: do it right and you'll rarely hear from me. Fuck up a little and I'll chide you and provide a suggestion if warranted. If you're big time in the community and you fuck up big time, you get a public earful. Makes sense.
The definition of asshole is subjective. People who whine about their feelings over bad code are the assholes because they're shitting up the channel with their bitching. The answer is to shut up and fix your code, or explain why your code is not fucked up, which starts an on topic debate. Leaving little room for feelings is the way to keep the community on task.
The trick of it is not to give a shit about ad hominems someone hurled at you on the internet or in real life. If someone says "you should've been retroactively aborted" or "you should die", are you really going to take that seriously? Has the culture fallen this far, where we need pervasive, multipage "anti harassment" codes of conduct because the slightest banter creates irrational, morbid fear in most people?
3. There aren't 'that' many instances given the amount of projects out there and the number of people involved. Think about the personality types who code on these projects for a moment. Do you really believe that many of them are psychopathic killers because they threw a few one liners out there in the heat of frustration? I just think people are being conditioned to be hypersensitive to ANY signs of newspeak 'bigotry', 'oppression', 'hate', or 'violence', such that that a few cases out of tens or hundreds of thousands are equated to an epidemic. This last bit is a primary argument used by SJW types and it's bullshit. Honestly, what good is a community that is so humorless and spineless that they worry more about ensuring proper 'trigger warning' etiquette than they do getting anything done?
4. Read his full post on google+.. it's linked in the article.. Here is the quote from it..
On one hand there are certain communities where it appears to be a lot more accepted to vent hate, communities that attract a certain kind of people (Hey, Gentoo!) more than others do.
5. Just because there isn't a group shouting down 'abuse' of a particular side does not mean that side is the oppressed. I am well aware that people feel first, but that doesn't absolve them from using their frontal lobes either. The bottom line is others are not, nor should they be, responsible for your feelings. You are. If we changed this rule, it would be social, and probably legal suicide to do anything remotely interesting. Freedom would die.
6. lol 'non positive'. After your attacks on people who criticized others' criticism, you'll excuse it when it generalizes white males? SJW logic begs the question: are you a racist/sexist/heterophobe? (Note, I think the question is just as ridiculous now as when SJWs ask it.) If he has the same 'privilege' (as sjws define it) as the ones who attack him, then privilege drops from the equation. All he was doing here was trying to make tenuous links to the greater 'social justice' picture to lend credibility to his victimhood. Seriously, if you have the means to contribute to a project, few are going to give a shit what you are as long as
Well, most of us have been.. How many of us have been on forums and NNTP? How many times have we all been flamed with stupid shit? Right. The difference is that most of us saw it for what it was and put it in perspective; let it roll off our backs with or without retorts of our own. As linus has shown, a well placed 'FUCK YOU' or comment about retroactive abortion gets the job done a lot more quickly, and with a lot less waste. The productive members of the project laugh about it and get back to work. The whiners do the same, or leave because they either have little to offer, or don't take criticism well, making what they do have to offer, irrelevant. This keeps the pool free of unwanted bacteria clouding the view and making the environment toxic to the goal.
I'm not blaming victims. People who whine like this online are not victims of anything but their own preachy arrogance (and, usually, badly framed arguments). They're perpetrators of bullshit pretending to be victims from any criticism thrown at them. Real victims are not interested in blabbing about their victimhood to feed their narcissism.
The 'social justice' crowd is quite consistent with their tactics regardless of the target organization, community, or government. A generalization is warranted here. The irony you pointed out is actually theirs. They have no problem using every oppressive dirty trick in the book (fake DMCA takedowns, shadow bans/special favors/lobbied for law etc) to silence criticism, labeling it all as 'hate speech' so they don't have to address flaws in their arguments. By and large this behavior is not seen by the opposing sides, but when it does happen, it is loudly generalized as 'proof' of systemic oppression.
These people pretend they don't understand hyperbole and troll posts to drum up controversy. Those 'death threats' aren't credible. Any 7 year old could tell you that.
While things can change over time, this does not justify change for changes sake, especially when the problems being solved haven't changed much, and solutions you've already provided work quite well already. This is a lot of what people are angry about. Focusing on their 'hate' speech and vitriol as 'the problem' just reframes the narrative away from the initial actions that triggered the response. I guess developers like poettering decided they don't need user respect and let their egos drive development. That's ok as it's their software, time, and energy, but they don't get to demand respect from others or silence their expression.
I don't think anyone has said that recompiling the kernel in gentoo (or any other distro) makes one an expert kernel dev.
You don't recall any of the pulseaudio controversies? It's still a POS btw, but it's not quite as bad as it used to be. I have no need for it as ALSA now handles software mixing for today's simple DACs and has done so for years.
Yes, and typically in companies like microsoft or apple, conflicts between groupthink hugboxes take precedent over what the customer wants because the few individuals who dare to stand up and say 'this is bad' get labeled as 'antisocial' by HR and fired. Windows 8 comes to mind right away.. The IOSification of OSX is another. An OSS equivalent is Gnome.
This guy's victim routine doesn't sound that much different than the anti-gamergate and atheism plus crowd. let's compare..(replying to his full google+ post)
1. Pretending to misunderstand hyperbole as legitimate threats. (the 'fandom' song he mentioned, and his statements about comments made by linus). 2. Labeling criticism of his effort as a systemwide cultural problem (implying all OSS devs are assholes, and he can't even bring himself to type out the word for fear of being 'offensive'). Then later he types out 'fuck'. Go figure.. 3. Many appeals to political correctness; the main argument being that the OSS culture survived in spite of the targeted behavior as opposed to because of it. 4. He targets the gentoo community specifically. Of course, it's one of the only distributions that still gives users a choice in whether to use his software stack, so he labels them all as 'haters.' Again, par for the course in 'social justice' circles. 5. Attack on the internet community as a whole. Lots of groups like to do this now. I think the main reason for this is part of an increased trend against anonymous speech, mainly by people with poor arguments who feel first and (maybe) think later, and by those with something to gain or hypocrisy to hide. It's just more generalization, which is ironic considering that generalization is usually one of the behaviors they accuse people of. 6. Finally, he attacks straight white males, which he acknowledges he is, but then makes implicit and explicit appeals of "I'm not like the others, I'm a victim of them, so help me fight the evil horde!." His whole piece is evidence to the contrary.
Again these closely parallel the behavior of the social 'justice' warriors targeting the atheism and gaming communities. Like them, I suspect that poettering is trying to hide from criticism by calling himself a victim. Don't let him. Linus is correct in booting these people out (or at least putting them in their places) before they gain momentum. They are parasites who sap resources away from the original goal and refocus them towards building hugboxes and/or political platforms. Communities that cultivate the dynamics poettering takes issue with is what keeps these groupthink hugboxes from metastasizing into forces that block the objective (technical) truth for the sake of feelings, whether this groupthink spawns naturally or is fostered by people with agendas hungry for resources and control of the zeitgeist.
So what? Everything must be PC, sterile, and conflict free? This attitude is the reason TV, movies, (and probably games soon) are so goddamn boring. They all play out like soaps now.
Deliberately pretending she doesn't understand hyperbole and equating one troll comments (she invited with her behavior of course) as 'threats' does not make her a victim of anything but her own stupidity and arrogance.
People who want to ban words and expression are hardly after a better world. Of course, the sophistry of modern 'social justice' isn't also simple minded, self serving, narcissistic arrogance, right?
There was a time when most gamers were also at least obliquely familiar with programming.. Many pc gamers still are, thus the site is/was relevant to them.
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Seriously? If you don't pics of yourself floating around, don't take them. Statistically, that's the best preventative measure. Taking them, and then UPLOADING them to a PUBLIC network is just asking for it. This concept should be common knowledge to anyone under the age of 45, regardless of their technical expertise. There's a reason people don't walk dark streets in shitty neighborhoods even though it is illegal to mug people. Use a little common sense and take a little preemptive (in)action.
The term 'Victim blaming' is just an emotional appeal designed to drive the narrative.. It's bullshit.
Intellect that judges comments by the person rather than by the arguments made is not worth consideration.
not just because Free Will, but for Great Social Justice.
To expect the average medical practitioner to have 4 patents over their careers is ludicrous.
What is it with foreigners coming to an american site and then bitching about americans? Go create slashdot.eu or something.
The problem with this brand of feminism is that it promotes the creation and expansion of 'female spaces', while telling men it's not ok for them to have theirs, or that they have to 'tolerate' the inclusion of women until they become a large percentage, which effectively kills it. There's a reason military service (until recently thanks to the same shitty politics) was strictly regimented: Coed group dynamics trigger different behavior in both sexes. It's apparently ok for women to do this everywhere:all female run companies, clubs, scholarships, hell, there's even a push to force fraternities to include women. This of course ruins the whole point of having both fraternities and sororities in the first place.
http://www.slate.com/blogs/the...
I'd link the hartford courant article but it's behind a paywall.
Life isn't fair. I'm sure there are plenty of CS sorts, here, who would be 'outliers' in other fields' social circles, and if they wanted in, they'd have to initially overcompensate by showing off elite skill in order to earn respect. Humans are naturally tribal. They organize themselves, by sex, by race, by culture, by trade, and by interest, and do so willingly. They prefer it. By all means, as an individual or as a group, mix it up if you want, but, as outliers, don't be surprised if you're met with hostility at times when trying to bring others in or imposing yourself on them. As far as the sexes go, with the one glaring exception of sexual pairing (which has its own separate dynamics), the two different spheres of mentality have their own spaces whose dynamics become less compatible as the stakes go up. Men and women work and think differently and that is due to radical differences in biology. They both need and deserve their spaces. For the same reason it is childish to think race ends with skin color because it ignores cultural differences, it is childish to think that men and women are the same except they have different genitals, and that any differences in performance are due to 'socially constructed' oppression. This 1970s era feminist mentality is not applicable in today's society, at least in western culture.
Yeah well, the far left 'multicultural' preach only goes one way. It's still ok and even encouraged to hold american and/or western culture (depending on context of the discussion) in contempt.
No it's not. It's an american site that has some international visitors.
You laugh, but these hippies will try for it...
1. topology and infrastructure across sweden and 6 million swedes vs 350 million americans and many times the sq mileage.
2. The swedish government subsidizes a lot of it. I prefer to not pay for what I'm not using and keep the state out of my internet (too bad we're far from that goal). If you include the tax money paid into the subsidy it doesn't look so cheap anymore. Fuck high taxes.
The summary almost reads like a "see? your society should be more like swedens" shaming session. The swedes can keep their high income and vat taxes.
Actually oss in linux was doing it too before alsa came along. ALSA also had the feature, but it had to be configured and enabled in asound.conf. Now, alsa enables it by default for non hardware mixing devices.
1. your name and address are public information. If you want anonymity, don't use your real info online. You are suggesting thought-crime, which is, for the moment, thankfully unenforceable. Someone publicly soliciting donations for murdering someone in irc is obviously a troll, or a complete idiot, not to be taken seriously, especially over some niche thing like init systems for linux.
2. Many people complain about OSS dev culture but at the end of the day, the slightly acidic atmosphere keeps the whining at bay. To use Linus as an example, he keeps lkml on task by preventing people from creating rifts along irrelevant boundaries. Otherwise, if people like sarah sharp have their way, the spot light and focus will ossify from the intended goal and move towards her priorities. His message is clear: do it right and you'll rarely hear from me. Fuck up a little and I'll chide you and provide a suggestion if warranted. If you're big time in the community and you fuck up big time, you get a public earful. Makes sense.
The definition of asshole is subjective. People who whine about their feelings over bad code are the assholes because they're shitting up the channel with their bitching. The answer is to shut up and fix your code, or explain why your code is not fucked up, which starts an on topic debate. Leaving little room for feelings is the way to keep the community on task.
The trick of it is not to give a shit about ad hominems someone hurled at you on the internet or in real life. If someone says "you should've been retroactively aborted" or "you should die", are you really going to take that seriously? Has the culture fallen this far, where we need pervasive, multipage "anti harassment" codes of conduct because the slightest banter creates irrational, morbid fear in most people?
3. There aren't 'that' many instances given the amount of projects out there and the number of people involved. Think about the personality types who code on these projects for a moment. Do you really believe that many of them are psychopathic killers because they threw a few one liners out there in the heat of frustration? I just think people are being conditioned to be hypersensitive to ANY signs of newspeak 'bigotry', 'oppression', 'hate', or 'violence', such that that a few cases out of tens or hundreds of thousands are equated to an epidemic. This last bit is a primary argument used by SJW types and it's bullshit. Honestly, what good is a community that is so humorless and spineless that they worry more about ensuring proper 'trigger warning' etiquette than they do getting anything done?
4. Read his full post on google+.. it's linked in the article.. Here is the quote from it..
On one hand there are certain communities where it appears to be a lot more accepted to vent hate, communities that attract a certain kind of people (Hey, Gentoo!) more than others do.
5. Just because there isn't a group shouting down 'abuse' of a particular side does not mean that side is the oppressed. I am well aware that people feel first, but that doesn't absolve them from using their frontal lobes either. The bottom line is others are not, nor should they be, responsible for your feelings. You are. If we changed this rule, it would be social, and probably legal suicide to do anything remotely interesting. Freedom would die.
6. lol 'non positive'. After your attacks on people who criticized others' criticism, you'll excuse it when it generalizes white males? SJW logic begs the question: are you a racist/sexist/heterophobe? (Note, I think the question is just as ridiculous now as when SJWs ask it.) If he has the same 'privilege' (as sjws define it) as the ones who attack him, then privilege drops from the equation. All he was doing here was trying to make tenuous links to the greater 'social justice' picture to lend credibility to his victimhood. Seriously, if you have the means to contribute to a project, few are going to give a shit what you are as long as
Well, most of us have been.. How many of us have been on forums and NNTP? How many times have we all been flamed with stupid shit? Right. The difference is that most of us saw it for what it was and put it in perspective; let it roll off our backs with or without retorts of our own. As linus has shown, a well placed 'FUCK YOU' or comment about retroactive abortion gets the job done a lot more quickly, and with a lot less waste. The productive members of the project laugh about it and get back to work. The whiners do the same, or leave because they either have little to offer, or don't take criticism well, making what they do have to offer, irrelevant. This keeps the pool free of unwanted bacteria clouding the view and making the environment toxic to the goal.
I'm not blaming victims. People who whine like this online are not victims of anything but their own preachy arrogance (and, usually, badly framed arguments). They're perpetrators of bullshit pretending to be victims from any criticism thrown at them. Real victims are not interested in blabbing about their victimhood to feed their narcissism.
The 'social justice' crowd is quite consistent with their tactics regardless of the target organization, community, or government. A generalization is warranted here. The irony you pointed out is actually theirs. They have no problem using every oppressive dirty trick in the book (fake DMCA takedowns, shadow bans/special favors/lobbied for law etc) to silence criticism, labeling it all as 'hate speech' so they don't have to address flaws in their arguments. By and large this behavior is not seen by the opposing sides, but when it does happen, it is loudly generalized as 'proof' of systemic oppression.
These people pretend they don't understand hyperbole and troll posts to drum up controversy. Those 'death threats' aren't credible. Any 7 year old could tell you that.
While things can change over time, this does not justify change for changes sake, especially when the problems being solved haven't changed much, and solutions you've already provided work quite well already. This is a lot of what people are angry about. Focusing on their 'hate' speech and vitriol as 'the problem' just reframes the narrative away from the initial actions that triggered the response. I guess developers like poettering decided they don't need user respect and let their egos drive development. That's ok as it's their software, time, and energy, but they don't get to demand respect from others or silence their expression.
I don't think anyone has said that recompiling the kernel in gentoo (or any other distro) makes one an expert kernel dev.
You don't recall any of the pulseaudio controversies? It's still a POS btw, but it's not quite as bad as it used to be. I have no need for it as ALSA now handles software mixing for today's simple DACs and has done so for years.
Yes, and typically in companies like microsoft or apple, conflicts between groupthink hugboxes take precedent over what the customer wants because the few individuals who dare to stand up and say 'this is bad' get labeled as 'antisocial' by HR and fired. Windows 8 comes to mind right away.. The IOSification of OSX is another. An OSS equivalent is Gnome.
This guy's victim routine doesn't sound that much different than the anti-gamergate and atheism plus crowd. let's compare..(replying to his full google+ post)
1. Pretending to misunderstand hyperbole as legitimate threats. (the 'fandom' song he mentioned, and his statements about comments made by linus).
2. Labeling criticism of his effort as a systemwide cultural problem (implying all OSS devs are assholes, and he can't even bring himself to type out the word for fear of being 'offensive'). Then later he types out 'fuck'. Go figure..
3. Many appeals to political correctness; the main argument being that the OSS culture survived in spite of the targeted behavior as opposed to because of it.
4. He targets the gentoo community specifically. Of course, it's one of the only distributions that still gives users a choice in whether to use his software stack, so he labels them all as 'haters.' Again, par for the course in 'social justice' circles.
5. Attack on the internet community as a whole. Lots of groups like to do this now. I think the main reason for this is part of an increased trend against anonymous speech, mainly by people with poor arguments who feel first and (maybe) think later, and by those with something to gain or hypocrisy to hide. It's just more generalization, which is ironic considering that generalization is usually one of the behaviors they accuse people of.
6. Finally, he attacks straight white males, which he acknowledges he is, but then makes implicit and explicit appeals of "I'm not like the others, I'm a victim of them, so help me fight the evil horde!." His whole piece is evidence to the contrary.
Again these closely parallel the behavior of the social 'justice' warriors targeting the atheism and gaming communities. Like them, I suspect that poettering is trying to hide from criticism by calling himself a victim. Don't let him. Linus is correct in booting these people out (or at least putting them in their places) before they gain momentum. They are parasites who sap resources away from the original goal and refocus them towards building hugboxes and/or political platforms. Communities that cultivate the dynamics poettering takes issue with is what keeps these groupthink hugboxes from metastasizing into forces that block the objective (technical) truth for the sake of feelings, whether this groupthink spawns naturally or is fostered by people with agendas hungry for resources and control of the zeitgeist.
Fine then men shouldn't be held responsible for "her body, her right, her choice".
So what? Everything must be PC, sterile, and conflict free? This attitude is the reason TV, movies, (and probably games soon) are so goddamn boring. They all play out like soaps now.
Agreed, but western cultures have a right to their conventions just as other cultures do. Stop shaming.
Deliberately pretending she doesn't understand hyperbole and equating one troll comments (she invited with her behavior of course) as 'threats' does not make her a victim of anything but her own stupidity and arrogance.
People who want to ban words and expression are hardly after a better world. Of course, the sophistry of modern 'social justice' isn't also simple minded, self serving, narcissistic arrogance, right?
There was a time when most gamers were also at least obliquely familiar with programming.. Many pc gamers still are, thus the site is/was relevant to them.
ad hominem comment of the second.