I said it's not hard for a vendor to shove underclocked components into a small space. They do this for laptops all the time. That is a fact. I don't need to prove it.
You are building up a strawman for DIY builds as these loud, hot, 30 fan monstrosities and attacking it. It is possible to configure ultra quiet builds, if you know what you're doing. Those D700s are essentially 6GB 7970s with non crippled drivers. Their thermals aren't any different than their radeon counterparts. An ultraquiet build would not use the stock coolers and would also allow higher clockspeeds than cramped designs. Apple sacrifices performance and standard upgrade/expansion paths for quirky formfactors and then charges a ton for it.. what a shock. Show me the value inherent in paying thousands of dollars extra for bizarre trashcan-like aesthetics. People using workstations generally value reliability, performance, and upgradeability, over frivolous nonsense.
Those audio pros are probably using studio headphones which block out huge percentages of the noise in the mixing room, while the musicians play in a separate, acoustically sealed sound stage. The tiny noise coming from a fan is hardly an issue. The mac pro has a fan too btw.
I'm all for aps, aps mean you can't get a virus, so I can finally download software off the Internet with a Windows computer.
um what? This sounds like it was written by a complete newb in 1997. It is the most ignorant thing I've read in a slashdot comment possibly since that time.
'aps' suck except for very limited single use activities.. If they're all you need, you don't need a desktop computer. However, I'd still encourage you to get one and learn how to use it properly as you might find joy in creating content as well as passively consuming it. The current computer/internet landscape would be a better place if people like you learned. Knowledge is also the best way to combat viruses.
The service aspect is not all positive.. With a vendor built, a component failure means a 2 week minimum turnaround where you're out of a machine. If you've built it yourself it's an overnighted part and you're up and running again...and if you're crazy desperate, a drive to frys/microcenter.
If you remotely know what you're doing, your home built cooling setup easily beats the cost conscious compromises built into vendor designs, even the boutique brands like apple. It's not difficult to design a cooling system for stock clocked chips.
Finally, there's performance. It's quite easy to build an overclocked machine that'll outperform anything apple offers, even while staying away from benchmark warrior speeds. I'd rather have 8 cores at 4.6 ghz than 12 or 16 at 2.6 for 99% of the applications out there, including 'embarrassingly parallel' media heavy ones like 3D modeling and video encoding.
Yes, if you don't know what you're doing, your build's reliability will suck, but really, it's not that hard to build a decent machine yourself that outperforms apple in performance and reliability.
You can't assure me jack shit. This is an appeal to emotion. Try getting help from apple when your machine is out of its expensive applecare warranty. Good luck. At least with a home built, it'll last as long as you want it to as parts are always readily available, and at no worse reliability than the crappy refurbs apple sticks into supposedly 'new' computers when they fail. They're usually cheaper too.
I think it boils down to an extreme risk-aversion caused by a spike in artificial risk imposed by society on large percentages of interaction. This is done by people who have vested interests in either corralling behavior, or by people with axes to grind.
1. Every time feminists get some new law passed that lowers the legal bar for girls to make accusations that stick, it increases the social and legal risks for boys and men who have little or no legal recourse for false accusations, both deliberate and those based on bad definitions. With those huge generalizations rattling inside their heads, girls are treating all boys as 'potential rapists.' This causes feral like behavior in both genders as their natural biological imperatives collide with these newspeak mantras. The smarter ones are abandoning the game altogether because they see the risks which leave the not so average ones to mate and reproduce. Playing video games is increasingly being seen as almost as fun and a lot safer, socially. Cheaper too.
2. Schools' social dynamics are becoming more and more like prisons, with ever more extreme punishments for the tiniest missteps in following increasingly chaotic and nonsensical rules. A wrong word, or out of context statement overheard by the wrong person used to get the student a dressing down or 'demerit' slip. Now it lands the student in front of the school psychologist, who then comes up with some 'disease' to label him with, ruining his future opportunities.. The fact that schools are now reaching outside their domains and into the home is quite scary.
3. Up through the 1990s, cruising around in cars was popular with teens until gas prices reached a point where few could afford to without parental gas allowance. There was a time in fact where a highschool teen could buy a shitbox car, fuel, and insure it, on the pittance earned at his part time job. This is not true anymore...or is becoming starkly less true as time goes on.
4. The usual zomg, terrorists, zomg, pedophiles, zomg rapists, zomg drugs stuff hasn't gone away either. The only thing that has changed is the increasing ubiquity and homogeneity of its message. This reenforces its 'truthiness' and relative importance in people's minds.
Obviously, this post overlaps what was said in the article. I agree with a lot of it. If anything, 'social' media is just the biggest convenient pothole for people to fall into when they see that taking IRL social risk has just become too risky.
..just like lefties think emotions are the most important, and want laws in place silence express that might cause negative ones, even when it is true(eg 'hate speech' law). The end result is this overprotective society talked about in the article.
When something goes wrong, we should look for the causes and remove/try to correct them.
Except that the problem is, when people (usually liberal/lefties) do this, they end up removing opportunities for the good outcomes that occur concurrently with the bad. EG Children kept indoors will be safer from the outside chance of predation, but will lack the experiences, fun, and health benefits of consistent outdoor play.
Just telling the person doing something "you are shit to begin with, thats why you did this" doesn't lead anywhere.
That doesn't mean you remove motivation for them to strive to do better.
..just like slamming enter on a bunch of "did your mom say it was ok" dialogs out of habit without realizing that their dire warnings actually apply this time?
GUIs don't prevent idiocy, they just breed better idiots.
also be maintainable, none of those things benefits from CLI over GUI.
..all of which might just be more quickly and efficiently done with a CLI, thus adding value to your company. Using a GUI alone does not automatically bring value. It depends on the task bringing that value. If you can automate it with a few CLI commands, you should.
A programmer should be able to use either environment, which ever one he sees as better suited to the task. However, knowing how the black box works is essential. It's one aspect that separates the great programmers from the decent ones. Even as an end user, many times, I can tell whether a programmer understands how pointers and memory allocation works just by using his program binaries. It does make a difference.. A big one.
The ones having problems writing code or using programs that touch kernel services? It doesn't have to be the kernel, though. The whole userland system is open as well, which allows a sysadmin to get as detailed info as he needs to in order to solve problems. Yes, it requires a sysadmin to have some basic understanding of programming. He doesn't have to be a hotshot programmer, but just good enough to parse code, know where to look, and how to use the development tools..ie, what every sys admin should be able to do. With proprietary systems, you're stuck calling the vendor, and paying them huge sums to fix what they should've fixed before they sold you a license.
This doesn't happen often, but when it does, having this access is a godsend.
NT kernel source under educational license != complete kernel and userland source access under any circumstance for any user.
Apple does not grant complete source access either. It's only marginally useful assuming you can get the same revision you're actually running, and the problem lies in the part of the code they opened...
The point is, when problems do arise, you have the option to look, and often times, it's a better look than any army of vendor support drones could give you. This cannot be done with windows in typical shops.
Practically speaking, for sysadmins, whether source is available is not always (or often) going to be terribly relevant.
It is when intractable problems crop up. Often, a quick glance at the source gives more insight into what's going on than calling vendor support, as well as saves a lot of time. Good luck getting that from microsoft even if you are a fortune 100 shop.
They're the largest in their field and have little real competition, so they must be doing something right.
Actually, it is more probable that they get away with fucking up because they're the only game in town.
The movies get reencoded anyway.. They certainly don't just rip the blu-ray streams from disc and stream them as-is as the bandwidth required for those files is huge (20-50Mbit).. VC-1 is basically the 'pro' variant of windows media video, which silverlight probably has the best support for. It's also possible that the studios give netflix the elementary streams for each title which are then wrapped in DRM and containers by netflix's stream servers.
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I said it's not hard for a vendor to shove underclocked components into a small space. They do this for laptops all the time. That is a fact. I don't need to prove it.
You are building up a strawman for DIY builds as these loud, hot, 30 fan monstrosities and attacking it. It is possible to configure ultra quiet builds, if you know what you're doing. Those D700s are essentially 6GB 7970s with non crippled drivers. Their thermals aren't any different than their radeon counterparts. An ultraquiet build would not use the stock coolers and would also allow higher clockspeeds than cramped designs. Apple sacrifices performance and standard upgrade/expansion paths for quirky formfactors and then charges a ton for it.. what a shock. Show me the value inherent in paying thousands of dollars extra for bizarre trashcan-like aesthetics. People using workstations generally value reliability, performance, and upgradeability, over frivolous nonsense.
Those audio pros are probably using studio headphones which block out huge percentages of the noise in the mixing room, while the musicians play in a separate, acoustically sealed sound stage. The tiny noise coming from a fan is hardly an issue. The mac pro has a fan too btw.
I'm all for aps, aps mean you can't get a virus, so I can finally download software off the Internet with a Windows computer.
um what? This sounds like it was written by a complete newb in 1997. It is the most ignorant thing I've read in a slashdot comment possibly since that time.
'aps' suck except for very limited single use activities.. If they're all you need, you don't need a desktop computer. However, I'd still encourage you to get one and learn how to use it properly as you might find joy in creating content as well as passively consuming it. The current computer/internet landscape would be a better place if people like you learned. Knowledge is also the best way to combat viruses.
The service aspect is not all positive.. With a vendor built, a component failure means a 2 week minimum turnaround where you're out of a machine. If you've built it yourself it's an overnighted part and you're up and running again...and if you're crazy desperate, a drive to frys/microcenter.
If you remotely know what you're doing, your home built cooling setup easily beats the cost conscious compromises built into vendor designs, even the boutique brands like apple. It's not difficult to design a cooling system for stock clocked chips.
Finally, there's performance. It's quite easy to build an overclocked machine that'll outperform anything apple offers, even while staying away from benchmark warrior speeds. I'd rather have 8 cores at 4.6 ghz than 12 or 16 at 2.6 for 99% of the applications out there, including 'embarrassingly parallel' media heavy ones like 3D modeling and video encoding.
Yes, if you don't know what you're doing, your build's reliability will suck, but really, it's not that hard to build a decent machine yourself that outperforms apple in performance and reliability.
You can't assure me jack shit. This is an appeal to emotion. Try getting help from apple when your machine is out of its expensive applecare warranty. Good luck. At least with a home built, it'll last as long as you want it to as parts are always readily available, and at no worse reliability than the crappy refurbs apple sticks into supposedly 'new' computers when they fail. They're usually cheaper too.
I think it boils down to an extreme risk-aversion caused by a spike in artificial risk imposed by society on large percentages of interaction. This is done by people who have vested interests in either corralling behavior, or by people with axes to grind.
1. Every time feminists get some new law passed that lowers the legal bar for girls to make accusations that stick, it increases the social and legal risks for boys and men who have little or no legal recourse for false accusations, both deliberate and those based on bad definitions. With those huge generalizations rattling inside their heads, girls are treating all boys as 'potential rapists.' This causes feral like behavior in both genders as their natural biological imperatives collide with these newspeak mantras. The smarter ones are abandoning the game altogether because they see the risks which leave the not so average ones to mate and reproduce. Playing video games is increasingly being seen as almost as fun and a lot safer, socially. Cheaper too.
2. Schools' social dynamics are becoming more and more like prisons, with ever more extreme punishments for the tiniest missteps in following increasingly chaotic and nonsensical rules. A wrong word, or out of context statement overheard by the wrong person used to get the student a dressing down or 'demerit' slip. Now it lands the student in front of the school psychologist, who then comes up with some 'disease' to label him with, ruining his future opportunities.. The fact that schools are now reaching outside their domains and into the home is quite scary.
3. Up through the 1990s, cruising around in cars was popular with teens until gas prices reached a point where few could afford to without parental gas allowance. There was a time in fact where a highschool teen could buy a shitbox car, fuel, and insure it, on the pittance earned at his part time job. This is not true anymore...or is becoming starkly less true as time goes on.
4. The usual zomg, terrorists, zomg, pedophiles, zomg rapists, zomg drugs stuff hasn't gone away either. The only thing that has changed is the increasing ubiquity and homogeneity of its message. This reenforces its 'truthiness' and relative importance in people's minds.
Obviously, this post overlaps what was said in the article. I agree with a lot of it. If anything, 'social' media is just the biggest convenient pothole for people to fall into when they see that taking IRL social risk has just become too risky.
..just like lefties think emotions are the most important, and want laws in place silence express that might cause negative ones, even when it is true(eg 'hate speech' law). The end result is this overprotective society talked about in the article.
When something goes wrong, we should look for the causes and remove/try to correct them.
Except that the problem is, when people (usually liberal/lefties) do this, they end up removing opportunities for the good outcomes that occur concurrently with the bad. EG Children kept indoors will be safer from the outside chance of predation, but will lack the experiences, fun, and health benefits of consistent outdoor play.
Just telling the person doing something "you are shit to begin with, thats why you did this" doesn't lead anywhere.
That doesn't mean you remove motivation for them to strive to do better.
just like slamming enter on a bunch of dialogs out of habit can cause loss of data too..
..just like slamming enter on a bunch of "did your mom say it was ok" dialogs out of habit without realizing that their dire warnings actually apply this time?
GUIs don't prevent idiocy, they just breed better idiots.
What does his opinion of amazon have to do with his position that 'In the Beginning..' is a good primer?
also be maintainable, none of those things benefits from CLI over GUI.
..all of which might just be more quickly and efficiently done with a CLI, thus adding value to your company. Using a GUI alone does not automatically bring value. It depends on the task bringing that value. If you can automate it with a few CLI commands, you should.
you complain about his appeal to mastery, yet respond with appeals to 'progress'?
A programmer should be able to use either environment, which ever one he sees as better suited to the task. However, knowing how the black box works is essential. It's one aspect that separates the great programmers from the decent ones. Even as an end user, many times, I can tell whether a programmer understands how pointers and memory allocation works just by using his program binaries. It does make a difference.. A big one.
The ones having problems writing code or using programs that touch kernel services? It doesn't have to be the kernel, though. The whole userland system is open as well, which allows a sysadmin to get as detailed info as he needs to in order to solve problems. Yes, it requires a sysadmin to have some basic understanding of programming. He doesn't have to be a hotshot programmer, but just good enough to parse code, know where to look, and how to use the development tools..ie, what every sys admin should be able to do. With proprietary systems, you're stuck calling the vendor, and paying them huge sums to fix what they should've fixed before they sold you a license.
This doesn't happen often, but when it does, having this access is a godsend.
and yet his description is closer to technical truth than your ad hominem attack.. who's the uneducated one?
NT kernel source under educational license != complete kernel and userland source access under any circumstance for any user.
Apple does not grant complete source access either. It's only marginally useful assuming you can get the same revision you're actually running, and the problem lies in the part of the code they opened...
The point is, when problems do arise, you have the option to look, and often times, it's a better look than any army of vendor support drones could give you. This cannot be done with windows in typical shops.
Practically speaking, for sysadmins, whether source is available is not always (or often) going to be terribly relevant.
It is when intractable problems crop up. Often, a quick glance at the source gives more insight into what's going on than calling vendor support, as well as saves a lot of time. Good luck getting that from microsoft even if you are a fortune 100 shop.
No way. C syntax is sensible for the most part. powershell is cmd.exe run amok.
kinda.. cygwin works ok, most of the time, but usually it's more of a pain in the ass than it's worth.
You must have relatively clean power.. The cheap switching supplies they put into those bulbs use the lowest grades of components available...
Not in terms of loss getting the energy to you in the first place, though..
Not in the long run.. they pay the difference eventually, plus all that bureaucratic overhead.
there's a chance you've confused legitimate medical complaints with whining..
flash does offer drm video streaming..
They're the largest in their field and have little real competition, so they must be doing something right.
Actually, it is more probable that they get away with fucking up because they're the only game in town.
The movies get reencoded anyway.. They certainly don't just rip the blu-ray streams from disc and stream them as-is as the bandwidth required for those files is huge (20-50Mbit).. VC-1 is basically the 'pro' variant of windows media video, which silverlight probably has the best support for. It's also possible that the studios give netflix the elementary streams for each title which are then wrapped in DRM and containers by netflix's stream servers.