Not true. You are free to release code that you write under any license at any time, and under different licenses to different entities. Perl and Ghostscript are both examples of this freedom.
You miss the point. Once I release code under GPL and someone else modifies it, they then own that section of the modified code. The code as a whole is no longer entirely my own, therefore no longer entirely under my control. If I wanted to use that code in a closed system I would be breaking the license on that person's code, even though the rest is mine. This is probably not a problem for most people since its unlikely that they'd want to use that code in a closed system. It is however, a drawback of using GPL. Thats the point I was making in the first place.
Exactly. So in this (admittedly somewhat hypothetical) situation, GPL sucks. Paying the owners to relicense is more than likely going to be impossible in any decent sized bit of code, since the changes made by others would be everywhere.
Well, I've said my bit. I know what I can and cannot do now, which was the whole point of the original posting. If anyone thinks that I'm anti-open source thats their choice. I'm not here to start a war. I just don't like GPL. End of story.
Thats my point exactly. Although the program was originally authored by me, releasing it to the public under the GPL allows anyone to modify that code. Since I wouldn't own that code, how can I used it in a closed system?
They way I see it (and I may be wrong, and please tell me if I am) releasing your software under GPL effectively stops you having control over it. There is no way you can include that code into another closed product (that perhaps you may want to sell - a guy's gotta eat y'know) at a later date, even though you probably wrote most of it. Is this correct? If so, thats a possible reason for not using GPL. All IMHO of course.
What, so we just sprang into being because of some divine influence? And that makes *more* sense? Give me a break.
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Geez guys, thats what we've been doing wrong! All we need to do is spend the next eon testing this kernel and then we can be sure that it has no bugs. Whew, its a good job there are clever people around to point us in the right direction huh?
Print that comment out and save it. Read it again in 3 years and see how silly it seems. I'm not being rude here, but if there is disk space, it will be used. It'll probably mean that people just won't ever delete files. More than likely it will be a sys-admins nightmare;)
If my memory serves me correctly, it was Raster that kicked off this themeable look to X that's so prevalent now. He decided to push X to the limit and beyond and from that has come a great deal of cool looking apps. For that he deserves credit. Lots of it. But I must admit that his letter makes me think of a kid stamping his feet all over the flowerbeds just because he can't get his own way. Mind you, we all have to vent our frustration's sometimes, and not all of us are saints when doing it. Certainly not me. I wish him luck for the future and hope that his little outburst won't cause him problems.
Bollocks. Who gives a monkeys about prime numbers? When asked the question "whats your computer doing?" what would you rather say? "its looking for a number" or "it's searching for the possibility of intelligent life outside of our solar system". I know which one I prefer. If you wanna be a boring maths junky, fine. Leave the rest of us to play with something interesting.
Depending on your processor, you really shouldn't need 50 hours.
As well as running it on my Linux box (PII 333) which averages 11 something hours per block, I also run it on my PowerMac 8200/100. Its been going for over 135 hours and is on 94% of the first block. This thing eats CPU time. But hey, what the hell else would I use the Mac for?;)
Cool though it is... you have to wonder if its getting a little out of hand. Multiple processors for a game? How long before we make that leap of *needing* multiple processors, just as it now *needs* 3D acceleration. Scary...
I agree, radio isn't just music. Theres a whole load of other stuff going on too. If people only wanted the music, they'd just listen to CD's, yes?
I don't see MP3's affecting radio at all. Many radio stations are already broadcasting accross the net anyway. They are already with us on this digital medium. Why should MP3's change this?
I installed Slackware about over 2 years ago (3.0 I think it was, not sure now) and have never looked back. I too am pretty much bleeding edge, lastest kernel, glibc 2.1, XFree86 3.3.3 and so on. I have no problems at all, and its pretty fast (as fast as a P120 gets I guess). It's taught me a great deal about Linux and Unix in general. If I wanted a OS that I could just install and leave alone, I'd use Winders. I don't. I want an environment in which I can tinker, break things, complain to my friends that I broke something, fix it, lather, rinse, repeat;)
Whenever I read an article of his, I always end up withthe impression that RMS feels that all software should be free, and all free software should fall under the GPL. This may or may not be true, its just the way I feel. The guy is just getting too big for his boots IMHO. I'm not saying he hasn't done a good job. He has. But bullying others is not the way to go about these things. That's the Microsoft way. It's NOT the free software way.
From what I've seen of the CDDB protocol and features, they are shite. Personally, we'd be better off as a community creating a brand new, well featured and free system for everyone to use, and let them screw with CDDB as much as they like. Just my two cents.
Yeah, I did look at KDE a while back. Personally, I think its butt ugly. Like I said before, I don't really need the GNOME integration... just some of the apps are cool. Ah well.. I'll just wait until GNUStep is a little more mature. And yes, I know its not a desktop environment. It's better...;)
Its just too big. Bungs libraries everywhere, has far too many dependencies, and is just too much hassle. The only reason I installed it was to try out a few programs that I liked the look of. In the end it wasn't worth the effort. But I wonder how many of these programs actually *need* Gnome to be usable. Me, I'll just stick with Window Maker and an xterm. Launches all the apps I need and doesn't fill my lib dirs up. Congrats to the people who've contributed to it though. Not taking anything away from them, they did a good job. It's just I won't be using it.
I personally only want Gnome because there are a *few* apps that I'd quite like to try out. Until GNUstep comes to fruition I will hold off on the harmonised desktop thing. But the list of dependencies that Gnome has is quite staggering. I've never seen an installtion spew out so many libraries. And what happened when I finally got everything compiled? Virtually everything segfaulted. Not even the damn panel would run. It was probably something to do with the way i have my system setup I guess. Anyway, I'm gonna hold off for a while. Downloading all these libraries and compling them for nothing tends to piss me off. Ah well... such is life.
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Not true. You are free to release code that you write under any license at any time, and under different licenses to different entities. Perl and Ghostscript are both examples of this freedom.
You miss the point. Once I release code under GPL and someone else modifies it, they then own that section of the modified code. The code as a whole is no longer entirely my own, therefore no longer entirely under my control. If I wanted to use that code in a closed system I would be breaking the license on that person's code, even though the rest is mine. This is probably not a problem for most people since its unlikely that they'd want to use that code in a closed system. It is however, a drawback of using GPL. Thats the point I was making in the first place.
Exactly. So in this (admittedly somewhat hypothetical) situation, GPL sucks. Paying the owners to relicense is more than likely going to be impossible in any decent sized bit of code, since the changes made by others would be everywhere.
Well, I've said my bit. I know what I can and cannot do now, which was the whole point of the original posting. If anyone thinks that I'm anti-open source thats their choice. I'm not here to start a war. I just don't like GPL. End of story.
Thats my point exactly. Although the program was originally authored by me, releasing it to the public under the GPL allows anyone to modify that code. Since I wouldn't own that code, how can I used it in a closed system?
They way I see it (and I may be wrong, and please tell me if I am) releasing your software under GPL effectively stops you having control over it. There is no way you can include that code into another closed product (that perhaps you may want to sell - a guy's gotta eat y'know) at a later date, even though you probably wrote most of it. Is this correct? If so, thats a possible reason for not using GPL. All IMHO of course.
What, so we just sprang into being because of some divine influence? And that makes *more* sense? Give me a break.
Geez guys, thats what we've been doing wrong! All we need to do is spend the next eon testing this kernel and then we can be sure that it has no bugs. Whew, its a good job there are clever people around to point us in the right direction huh?
*END SARCASM*
Moron.
Print that comment out and save it. Read it again in 3 years and see how silly it seems. I'm not being rude here, but if there is disk space, it will be used. It'll probably mean that people just won't ever delete files. More than likely it will be a sys-admins nightmare ;)
Yes, I know this is stupid and immature, but I just have to say it:
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ha ha!
Now if you'll excuse me I'll get back to coding under Linux
It beats having a barcode tattoed on your arse ;)
I totally agree. And the keyboard sucks like an industrial vacuum. If I want a keyboard that small I'd buy a notebook dammit.
If my memory serves me correctly, it was Raster that kicked off this themeable look to X that's so prevalent now. He decided to push X to the limit and beyond and from that has come a great deal of cool looking apps. For that he deserves credit. Lots of it. But I must admit that his letter makes me think of a kid stamping his feet all over the flowerbeds just because he can't get his own way. Mind you, we all have to vent our frustration's sometimes, and not all of us are saints when doing it. Certainly not me. I wish him luck for the future and hope that his little outburst won't cause him problems.
Bollocks. Who gives a monkeys about prime numbers? When asked the question "whats your computer doing?" what would you rather say? "its looking for a number" or "it's searching for the possibility of intelligent life outside of our solar system". I know which one I prefer. If you wanna be a boring maths junky, fine. Leave the rest of us to play with something interesting.
Depending on your processor, you really shouldn't need 50 hours.
;)
As well as running it on my Linux box (PII 333) which averages 11 something hours per block, I also run it on my PowerMac 8200/100. Its been going for over 135 hours and is on 94% of the first block. This thing eats CPU time. But hey, what the hell else would I use the Mac for?
It's very slow, even here in the UK at 9:45 in the morning.
Cool though it is... you have to wonder if its getting a little out of hand. Multiple processors for a game? How long before we make that leap of *needing* multiple processors, just as it now *needs* 3D acceleration. Scary...
Because we can! :p~
...or the code is broken. 0 of 0 comments on the main page, but plenty here. Hmmm...
I agree, radio isn't just music. Theres a whole load of other stuff going on too. If people only wanted the music, they'd just listen to CD's, yes?
I don't see MP3's affecting radio at all. Many radio stations are already broadcasting accross the net anyway. They are already with us on this digital medium. Why should MP3's change this?
Right on brother! ;)
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I installed Slackware about over 2 years ago (3.0 I think it was, not sure now) and have never looked back. I too am pretty much bleeding edge, lastest kernel, glibc 2.1, XFree86 3.3.3 and so on. I have no problems at all, and its pretty fast (as fast as a P120 gets I guess). It's taught me a great deal about Linux and Unix in general. If I wanted a OS that I could just install and leave alone, I'd use Winders. I don't. I want an environment in which I can tinker, break things, complain to my friends that I broke something, fix it, lather, rinse, repeat
Whenever I read an article of his, I always end up withthe impression that RMS feels that all software should be free, and all free software should fall under the GPL. This may or may not be true, its just the way I feel. The guy is just getting too big for his boots IMHO. I'm not saying he hasn't done a good job. He has. But bullying others is not the way to go about these things. That's the Microsoft way. It's NOT the free software way.
From what I've seen of the CDDB protocol and features, they are shite. Personally, we'd be better off as a community creating a brand new, well featured and free system for everyone to use, and let them screw with CDDB as much as they like. Just my two cents.
Yeah, I did look at KDE a while back. Personally, I think its butt ugly. Like I said before, I don't really need the GNOME integration... just some of the apps are cool. Ah well.. I'll just wait until GNUStep is a little more mature. And yes, I know its not a desktop environment. It's better... ;)
Its just too big. Bungs libraries everywhere, has far too many dependencies, and is just too much hassle. The only reason I installed it was to try out a few programs that I liked the look of. In the end it wasn't worth the effort. But I wonder how many of these programs actually *need* Gnome to be usable. Me, I'll just stick with Window Maker and an xterm. Launches all the apps I need and doesn't fill my lib dirs up.
Congrats to the people who've contributed to it though. Not taking anything away from them, they did a good job. It's just I won't be using it.
Hmm.. you may be onto something there. I have just recently upgraded to glibc2, and have had a few problems. I'll check it out, thanks :)
Btw, my original statement still holds - there are far too many libraries installed by gnome. Its becoming bloated.
I personally only want Gnome because there are a *few* apps that I'd quite like to try out. Until GNUstep comes to fruition I will hold off on the harmonised desktop thing. But the list of dependencies that Gnome has is quite staggering. I've never seen an installtion spew out so many libraries. And what happened when I finally got everything compiled? Virtually everything segfaulted. Not even the damn panel would run. It was probably something to do with the way i have my system setup I guess. Anyway, I'm gonna hold off for a while. Downloading all these libraries and compling them for nothing tends to piss me off. Ah well... such is life.