Jump 2 years into the future. It's AMD and Microsoft in bed, and now Intel is the good guy! The heads of Linux zealots (including me:) everywhere explode.
That's not a "version of the CLR." It's a version of *a* CLR. Rotor is not the real Microsoft CLR. At best it's a research project. At worst, it's a marketing gimmick.
The FFT benchmark is a very specific case. Once the JIT kicks in, it's not Java vs C++ anymore, it's the JVM optimizer vs the GCC one. Contrary to popular belief, the GCC optimizer is very good (check out benchmarks vs ICC at coytegulch.com). However, the FFT benchmark is a case where the additional information available to the JIT optimizer allows it to outperform native code. The whole benchmark is so small, it probably even fits in cache, and doesn't really stress any of the performance pitfalls of the language itself. Now, if you have a larger application, that doesn't consist of a single inner-loop, and meanders through a lot of varied code (ie. most real applications) then the performance story will be very different. At that point, Java's performance faults (excessive bookkeeping overhead, object allocation/deallocation, overhead from the JVM, etc) come much more into play.
Ugh. If C++ took the Java route, alternative operating systems would be impossible. C is so popular because it has a very minimal runtime system. Java is extremely difficult to port because of it's huge runtime. Java and C++ aren't really aimed at the same market. C++ is aimed at systems programming, where people can take the time to find the best external libraries for particular jobs, and need the performance of native code. Java is aimed (right now) at the server market, where having an quickly accessible, well documented (though not necessarily top-quality, if only because of the lack of competition) platform is more important. Personally, I think Java has more to fear from languages like Python (which have the extensive class libraries and are much more high-level to boot) than languages like C++.
Um, that actually is not the same type of situation at all. In that case, it's not that your guy was arrested for modifying the car, but breaking EPA laws. If the car manufacturer itself released such a chip, they'd get sued for it too. It's analagous to meaking weapons in your back yard. I'm perfectly entitled to make a potato cannon with some PVC pipe and WD-40. I can shoot all the trees I want with it. That act, is not in itself illegal. But if I use it to break a seperate law, such as if I shoot someone with it, it is this seperate act that is illegal.
I'd like to see where I signed the damn contract. When I buy an X-Box, the only implicit contract I'm making is that I get the plastic and silicon in it, and I give them $200. That's it. That's the standard definition of "buying" something. If Microsoft want's to impose further restrictions on the purchase, they should have you sign a contract when you buy the thing. When you buy a house, for example, you are restricted from doing certain things to it. All of this is in the contract you sign when you purchase it. If Microsoft thinks that signing a contract over such a relatively small purchase is too much trouble for consumers, then it should realize that getting a boatload of restrictions along with such a relatively small purchase is also too much trouble for consumers. If this "implicit contract" shit becomes any worse, imagine the possibilities. Next thing you know we'll have lemonade stands where the implicit contract states that the only thing you can do with the lemonade is pour it down your pants...
But I also remember that my original HP (lasted 1992 to 1998 I think) was well over $400. Our newest Canon i850 looks nicer, is a whole lot faster, has much better print quality, and costs $150. If it lasts even half as long as the HP did, and we buy another one, it'll still be cheaper overall.
I've always wondered about the same thing. We're so busy making money to buy stuff like this, and we don't really think about what we're loosing. People are so busy they don't have time to see their kids more than once a week. I saw a magazine recommend that a family sit down to a meal together at least once a week! Once a week? In my house, it was every day unless something unusual came up. Then you have the impact on politics. Democracy requires a knowledgable public. How's the public supposed to be knowledgable if they don't even have time to read the paper or research before voting (that is, if they can get off work long enough to vote at all). It's getting to the point where I'm contemplating becoming a hermit, that is if I can figure out how to get broadband in a remote cave on top of a mountain...
Wow. That's a genuinely good idea. Especially for my mom, who refuses to believe that there are cooking instructions, right on the box of all places...
Python is by far more suitable for larger projects. Python code is much more readable and the syntax is much more regular. Python is more a high-level take on Java than a scripting language.
Um there are lots of indeterministic things in ring3. The TSC (Timestamp counter) calls, for example. Timing between external interrupts. Hell, even the IO port instructions can run in ring 3. Otherwise, X wouldn't work.
Also, there is a guideline in art saying that humans find it most pleasing when important demarcations (horizons, fences, tree-lines, etc) occur 1/3 or 2/3s of the way on an axis rather than in the middle or at the edges.
I see your point. Apple laptops are very functional -- they're fast enough for most things, and have a lot of the "livability" features that are so important for laptops. I often wish I had bought a Powerbook instead of an Inspiron 8200. The Dell machine is made of cheap-feeling plastic, is huge, hot, and heavy. But I don't think I could part with it's UXGA screen and 2GHz CPU, specially since it's my main machine.
And as for this new technology called "calculus", it's NEVER going to be accepted by the masses. >>>>>>>> It hasn't. Science in general hasn't. It's phenomenal what the average person on the street *doesn't* know...
Well the new NVIDIA installer is even better. But it requires you to break out an xterm, though. It just gives fuel to the "I don't want to ever see a command line and instructions are not for important people like MEEEE!" types. Personally, I prefer "emerge nvidia-glx":)
My experiences in installing Linux have been totally different. The last time I went through Linux hell was back around the libc5/glibc fiasco. After I ditched RPM-based distros, it's been smooth sailing ever since. Over the winter, I managed to hose my installation of Gentoo on my laptop (that's what running every 0-day cvs ebuild in sight will get you:). I wasn't going to have a broadband connection for about a month, so Gentoo was out of the question. So before I left on vacation, I grabbed a set of RedHat 8.0 CDs.
Installation was dead simple. I'm hardly a newbie, but the installer didn't really give me the chance to do all that much. I let it autopartition, autoselect the filesystems, picked my package sets (GNOME workstation, etc) and sat by while it installed. I occasionally had to swap discs. The bootmanager configuration would probably be a little confusing. There is no reason to really have it in the "braindead-newbie installation mode" because installed OSs can probably be auto-detected. Then, it rebooted do a nice GNOME desktop. The GeForce4Go in my Inspiron 8200 was autodetected. My USB mouse was autodetected. My network card was autodetected. I had to install the NVIDIA drivers seperately, which required me to drop into the command line. This would be the first hitch for a newbie user (who wants 3D anyway). In all, there was one text file to edit (a one-liner). No recompiles. Overall, it was easier than the average WinXP installation. The WinXP does partitioning and filesystem formatting through a curses-like interface. Two of it's options panels (date-time settings, network configuration) are a good deal more complex than the very direct RedHat panels. Getting good 3D performance in XP also requires an trip to NVIDIA's websites for it's drivers. Further, after the install, about an hour of additional software installation is necessary to get the system to a usable state. Once the RedHat install is done, it's done.
A major point of child pornography (and underage sex laws in general) to prevent the emotional damage that results from sex. Of course I'm being a little facetious in bring up Britney spears, Of course I realize the difference between her and a child, but I'd argue that at 15, when she was swept into the whole music biz, she wasn't emotionally developed enough to handle it.
When a major news story goes up on TV, what's a poor politican to do? Ideally, he'd realize that the existing body of law already overs this, and announce to the world that they'd work harder to enforce them. Of course, what kind of press release would that make. "We're going to try harder not to fuck up in the future!" The public outcry demands...something "new." Something "innovative." You have to throw all sorts of "reforms" and "initiatives" at the problem. Once you run out of good new policies, you just get the rehashed drivel we're seeing today.
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Jump 2 years into the future. It's AMD and Microsoft in bed, and now Intel is the good guy! The heads of Linux zealots (including me :) everywhere explode.
That's not a "version of the CLR." It's a version of *a* CLR. Rotor is not the real Microsoft CLR. At best it's a research project. At worst, it's a marketing gimmick.
The FFT benchmark is a very specific case. Once the JIT kicks in, it's not Java vs C++ anymore, it's the JVM optimizer vs the GCC one. Contrary to popular belief, the GCC optimizer is very good (check out benchmarks vs ICC at coytegulch.com). However, the FFT benchmark is a case where the additional information available to the JIT optimizer allows it to outperform native code. The whole benchmark is so small, it probably even fits in cache, and doesn't really stress any of the performance pitfalls of the language itself. Now, if you have a larger application, that doesn't consist of a single inner-loop, and meanders through a lot of varied code (ie. most real applications) then the performance story will be very different. At that point, Java's performance faults (excessive bookkeeping overhead, object allocation/deallocation, overhead from the JVM, etc) come much more into play.
Ugh. If C++ took the Java route, alternative operating systems would be impossible. C is so popular because it has a very minimal runtime system. Java is extremely difficult to port because of it's huge runtime. Java and C++ aren't really aimed at the same market. C++ is aimed at systems programming, where people can take the time to find the best external libraries for particular jobs, and need the performance of native code. Java is aimed (right now) at the server market, where having an quickly accessible, well documented (though not necessarily top-quality, if only because of the lack of competition) platform is more important. Personally, I think Java has more to fear from languages like Python (which have the extensive class libraries and are much more high-level to boot) than languages like C++.
Not to *use* it, it doesn't. The GPL only asks for your source if you use it's source. It's like consensual sex vs rape...
Um, that actually is not the same type of situation at all. In that case, it's not that your guy was arrested for modifying the car, but breaking EPA laws. If the car manufacturer itself released such a chip, they'd get sued for it too. It's analagous to meaking weapons in your back yard. I'm perfectly entitled to make a potato cannon with some PVC pipe and WD-40. I can shoot all the trees I want with it. That act, is not in itself illegal. But if I use it to break a seperate law, such as if I shoot someone with it, it is this seperate act that is illegal.
I'd like to see where I signed the damn contract. When I buy an X-Box, the only implicit contract I'm making is that I get the plastic and silicon in it, and I give them $200. That's it. That's the standard definition of "buying" something. If Microsoft want's to impose further restrictions on the purchase, they should have you sign a contract when you buy the thing. When you buy a house, for example, you are restricted from doing certain things to it. All of this is in the contract you sign when you purchase it. If Microsoft thinks that signing a contract over such a relatively small purchase is too much trouble for consumers, then it should realize that getting a boatload of restrictions along with such a relatively small purchase is also too much trouble for consumers. If this "implicit contract" shit becomes any worse, imagine the possibilities. Next thing you know we'll have lemonade stands where the implicit contract states that the only thing you can do with the lemonade is pour it down your pants...
But I also remember that my original HP (lasted 1992 to 1998 I think) was well over $400. Our newest Canon i850 looks nicer, is a whole lot faster, has much better print quality, and costs $150. If it lasts even half as long as the HP did, and we buy another one, it'll still be cheaper overall.
I've always wondered about the same thing. We're so busy making money to buy stuff like this, and we don't really think about what we're loosing. People are so busy they don't have time to see their kids more than once a week. I saw a magazine recommend that a family sit down to a meal together at least once a week! Once a week? In my house, it was every day unless something unusual came up. Then you have the impact on politics. Democracy requires a knowledgable public. How's the public supposed to be knowledgable if they don't even have time to read the paper or research before voting (that is, if they can get off work long enough to vote at all). It's getting to the point where I'm contemplating becoming a hermit, that is if I can figure out how to get broadband in a remote cave on top of a mountain...
Wow. That's a genuinely good idea. Especially for my mom, who refuses to believe that there are cooking instructions, right on the box of all places...
Python is by far more suitable for larger projects. Python code is much more readable and the syntax is much more regular. Python is more a high-level take on Java than a scripting language.
Um there are lots of indeterministic things in ring3. The TSC (Timestamp counter) calls, for example. Timing between external interrupts. Hell, even the IO port instructions can run in ring 3. Otherwise, X wouldn't work.
I feel kinda stupid asking this...what's 1701 mean?
Did you go and do something stupid like give your girlfriend root?
PS> Now that I think of it. That kinda sounds like a venereal disease...
[you] (correcting happily) Silicone!
>>>>>>>>>
That would be your girlfriend. CPUs are made of silicon -- no 'e' at the end.
Thinking that hard? For a Slashdot post?
Also, there is a guideline in art saying that humans find it most pleasing when important demarcations (horizons, fences, tree-lines, etc) occur 1/3 or 2/3s of the way on an axis rather than in the middle or at the edges.
I see your point. Apple laptops are very functional -- they're fast enough for most things, and have a lot of the "livability" features that are so important for laptops. I often wish I had bought a Powerbook instead of an Inspiron 8200. The Dell machine is made of cheap-feeling plastic, is huge, hot, and heavy. But I don't think I could part with it's UXGA screen and 2GHz CPU, specially since it's my main machine.
No.
And as for this new technology called "calculus", it's NEVER going to be accepted by the masses.
>>>>>>>>
It hasn't. Science in general hasn't. It's phenomenal what the average person on the street *doesn't* know...
WTF? My brother has the original boxed set. He paid something like $150 for it. Someone mentioned a pirated copy, but on Amazon?
Well the new NVIDIA installer is even better. But it requires you to break out an xterm, though. It just gives fuel to the "I don't want to ever see a command line and instructions are not for important people like MEEEE!" types. Personally, I prefer "emerge nvidia-glx" :)
My experiences in installing Linux have been totally different. The last time I went through Linux hell was back around the libc5/glibc fiasco. After I ditched RPM-based distros, it's been smooth sailing ever since. Over the winter, I managed to hose my installation of Gentoo on my laptop (that's what running every 0-day cvs ebuild in sight will get you :). I wasn't going to have a broadband connection for about a month, so Gentoo was out of the question. So before I left on vacation, I grabbed a set of RedHat 8.0 CDs.
Installation was dead simple. I'm hardly a newbie, but the installer didn't really give me the chance to do all that much. I let it autopartition, autoselect the filesystems, picked my package sets (GNOME workstation, etc) and sat by while it installed. I occasionally had to swap discs. The bootmanager configuration would probably be a little confusing. There is no reason to really have it in the "braindead-newbie installation mode" because installed OSs can probably be auto-detected. Then, it rebooted do a nice GNOME desktop. The GeForce4Go in my Inspiron 8200 was autodetected. My USB mouse was autodetected. My network card was autodetected. I had to install the NVIDIA drivers seperately, which required me to drop into the command line. This would be the first hitch for a newbie user (who wants 3D anyway). In all, there was one text file to edit (a one-liner). No recompiles. Overall, it was easier than the average WinXP installation. The WinXP does partitioning and filesystem formatting through a curses-like interface. Two of it's options panels (date-time settings, network configuration) are a good deal more complex than the very direct RedHat panels. Getting good 3D performance in XP also requires an trip to NVIDIA's websites for it's drivers. Further, after the install, about an hour of additional software installation is necessary to get the system to a usable state. Once the RedHat install is done, it's done.
A major point of child pornography (and underage sex laws in general) to prevent the emotional damage that results from sex. Of course I'm being a little facetious in bring up Britney spears, Of course I realize the difference between her and a child, but I'd argue that at 15, when she was swept into the whole music biz, she wasn't emotionally developed enough to handle it.
I figured out why people make dumb laws.
When a major news story goes up on TV, what's a poor politican to do? Ideally, he'd realize that the existing body of law already overs this, and announce to the world that they'd work harder to enforce them. Of course, what kind of press release would that make. "We're going to try harder not to fuck up in the future!" The public outcry demands...something "new." Something "innovative." You have to throw all sorts of "reforms" and "initiatives" at the problem. Once you run out of good new policies, you just get the rehashed drivel we're seeing today.