I agree with you completely. If he wants an easy debian install, he should try corellinux. It doesn't get any easier then that. No need to use dselect, or get-apt, it can all be done in the GUI.
note: this was not meant to piss off debian fans, I am one myself
Take a pIII 500E (100x5) for example. The second level cache (256kb) is situated on the die, an ideally overclockable system. A lot of 500E's are overclockable to 700 (140x5), some even higher.
Now you're not just overclocking you core, you're overclocking your 1st level cache, you're overclocking your 2nd level cache, you're overclocking your bus, you're overclocking your memory
And if it runs stable, you've got a machine that will runs circles around the 500E, and even outpace a 'normal' PIII-700 (since your bus is 40% faster).
> Try using it for 6 months+ and your chances for more problems gets worse and worse.
It's more the other way around. Some chips seem to need a burn-in-period. I overclocked my celeron 300A, to 450. The first two month it needed a higher voltage to run stable. After two month I switched back to the normal voltage, and it runs without any problems. It's even stable at 504 (112x4.5).
s, so, c, e, f, h, j, n, o, p, pr, sp, t, ta, tr, w, x, te, ps, to, k, b, fg, jo, fd, m, q, ed, r, qu, ch, u, cho, chg, fi, l, wh, up, sh, i, us, usd, g, gp, pa, gr, sha, gs.
Level 1: Test 1, Test 2, and one othe 2x tests. Level 2: Test 3, Test 4 Level 3: Two of the 5x tests.
And that'll cost you $700. (if you pass all of them the first time). To really convince people that you are a true linux guru (not just another LCP), you should ofcourse pass all of them.
The good news is, you can still plunk down the remaining $2500 to visit all the linux conventions to show of your bundle of certificates.
Johan Veenstra (Not Certified, you have to take my word for it)
To linux/unix users this seems pretty easy (which ofcourse it is), but it's gonna take somebody who's never worked with unix some time to learn all these commands, I can tell you that.
Take a look at the list of exams they are developing:
1: General Linux, part I, 2: General Linux, part II, 2a: Caldera-specific, 2b: Debian-specific, 2c: TurboLinux-specific, 2d: Red Hat-specific, 2e: Slackware-specific, 2f: SuSE-specific
That's $800 already.
They are planning another 7 test in the future:
3: Advanced, 4: Linux Internals, 5a: Windows Integration, 5b: Internet Server, 5c: Datebase Server, 5d: Security, Firewalls, and Encryption, 5e: Kernel Drivers and Packages
That makes a total of 15 tests! So the guru's out there (who probably ace all of them without any further study) have to pay $1500 to 'prove' they are at least modestly proficient at linux. Seems like a lot of money to me, but hey if the boss is paying, who cares? Getting a few days off to study won't hurt either:)
The only thing that scares you is that some people can get that good at playing quake(1,2,3).
Now let me tell you this, those guys that were kicking your bud, are probably only half decent q3 players. If they were any good, you wouldn't have scored a single point before they reach a 100.
A good q3 player would kick their bud, and they would start screaming of faul play. The good player would lauch his head of, while chatting and railing.
Don't even get me started on expert players. They kick you bud before you even know they're in the game. They'll rail you from places you didn't know existed and leave the game because you bore them to death.
As some other poster pointed out, the 'secret' is 'skills'.
If your skills are lacking:
- do not aim for the top spot, but try to make it to the top 4. Avoid the better players for the time being, be a coward, it pays off.
- find another server where you can possibly make it to the top spot.
> Pentium (from penta, meaning five). > > Then the Pentium 2 came along, which according > to what I know is a 686. I just assumed that > they didn't call it a Sextium becase some idiot > would think that Intel was out to corrupt the > morals of our children.
Wouldn't hexium be the more logical followup to pentium? ( Hexa meaning 6? ) Kind of cool name hexium, I thought about copyrighting it when the pentium came out, maybe somebody else did:)
> Now the Pentium 3 is out, and it is supposedly a > 786. Why it's not called a Sentium I do not > know.
Heptium? (Hepta meaning 7). Doesn't sound very fast now does it?
> Now we have a Pentium 4 on the way. Shouldn't it > be called an Octium?
Of course, neither can religion. Religion can never explain the primal causes, can never account for the ultimate origin of anything. To try to claim otherwise is the worst kind of hubris. Religion can not even say where god came from, so why believe in it at all? It's obviously wrong.:-)
You're missing some important part about religion. Religion is not about explaining things, and especially not about explaining where God came from. The most important part of religion is faith, faith is not to be explained, but to be believed, not because it is logical, but just because you do.
and it really has a lot of truth to it, you have to create life from your own dirt, to really call it your own.
This made me think about how we can go about and create life from cratch. We would have to create our own matter and own physics before we can do anything.
Then I asked myself, haven't we done this already? Haven't we created our own physics? Haven't we used our own physics to create life already?
I think we did. We have created our own mathematical laws, and used those laws to create our own mathematical life. From a very small set of values (0, 1) and rules (AND, OR), we created dynamically interacting entities (programs), that sometimes even recreate themselves (virusses).
So all you programmers out there, keep on creating those programming perls.
It can be very annoying to readers in outside the US that times are noted in PST, EST, CST and I don't know what. Why use all those standards (which are in fact local standards to you guys in America) on a global medium like the internet?
I don't mind that a lot of mags die a slow death, there are too many of them around anyway.
Why would a mag die?
-Lack of interesting content. Very easy to keep publishing the same kind of info, that was once very interesting, but may have become really annoying because times have changed. So a mag should be aware of why it exists.
-Too high a price. There is a limit to what the masses want to pay for a mag. Keeping advertisers happy can be difficult, but giving your advertisers better reviews then others is a sure way to die. It will get noticed by the readers, they will stop reading your mag and the mag fades out like a candle. So keeping the readers interested is of vital importance.
-Wrong layout. The wrong layout can really be devestating. A mag should look inviting, be easy to navigate, but all of this shouldn't be a problem when the right people work in the right places.
-Outdated information. Well that can be a real problem. The net provides the most up to date info there is. But a lot of people don't want to look for it on the web, or read it on a computer screen, they want to receive a mag on a regular bases, so they can read of in the bathroom, in bed or in the train to work.
All I'm saying is, the ones that remain are the onces I would the to read. Some mags disappear, but they disappear for a reason, they weren't good enough, they published info too few people were willing to pay for, the published info that was old when it hit the shelves, they didn't replect the times we live in.
Some mags remain and other will take the place of the onces that have gone. These are the mags we want to read, these are the mags that publish interesting and up to date stuff, these are the mags we read in the bathroom and the se are the mags we read when commuting to our work places.
So if some mags go out of print it's not a sign of the end of all mags, but more a sign of renewal.
Ok, you just made clear that the loan was illegal (or in the words of the court, frowned upon). And therefore sticking to bill to visa is logical.
Suppose someone gets payed to break into a house. In the process of breaking in that someone kills the owner of the house.
Following your reasoning, the one who ordered the break-in, should go to jail for murder, and the one that murdered gets away with breaking and entering.
What I'm saying is, the court could fine visa for loaning the woman an illegal loan. The woman should pay the $70.000, just because she was the one spending the money.
As someone else pointed out, what would have happened if she'd won $1.000.000. Would visa have received the $1.000.000 as well, because the loan was illegal, and therefore she was gambling with visa's money.
Why don't you fire up a freech freely session with your team mate(s)?
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> Argh... Oh, and the default hash function knows > about char *s, but the default hash EQUALITY > routine just compares addresses!!)
From an OO perspective, that is 'equality'. Two objects that happen to contain the same information, are still two different objects, and thus not equal.
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I agree with you completely. If he wants an easy debian install, he should try corellinux. It doesn't get any easier then that. No need to use dselect, or get-apt, it can all be done in the GUI.
note: this was not meant to piss off debian fans, I am one myself
Take a pIII 500E (100x5) for example. The second level cache (256kb) is situated on the die, an ideally overclockable system. A lot of 500E's are overclockable to 700 (140x5), some even higher.
Now you're not just overclocking you core,
you're overclocking your 1st level cache,
you're overclocking your 2nd level cache,
you're overclocking your bus,
you're overclocking your memory
And if it runs stable, you've got a machine that will runs circles around the 500E, and even outpace a 'normal' PIII-700 (since your bus is 40% faster).
> Try using it for 6 months+ and your chances for more problems gets worse and worse.
It's more the other way around. Some chips seem to need a burn-in-period. I overclocked my celeron 300A, to 450. The first two month it needed a higher voltage to run stable. After two month I switched back to the normal voltage, and it runs without any problems. It's even stable at 504 (112x4.5).
sed, sort, cut, expand, fmt, head, join, nl, od, paste, pr, split, tac, tail, tr, wc, xargs, tee, ps, top, kill, bg, fg, jobs, fdisk, mkfs, quota, edquota, repquota, quotaon, chmod, umask, chown, chgrp, find, locate, which, updatedb, shutdown, init, useradd, userdel, groupadd, gpasswd, passwd, group, shadow, gshadow.
Gee, why are all these commands so long?
They could have been a lot shorter:
s, so, c, e, f, h, j, n, o, p, pr, sp, t, ta, tr, w, x, te, ps, to, k, b, fg, jo, fd, m, q, ed, r, qu, ch, u, cho, chg, fi, l, wh, up, sh, i, us, usd, g, gp, pa, gr, sha, gs.
Oh boy what have I done, aaaaaaaarrrrgh
Johan Veenstra.
Level 1: Test 1, Test 2, and one othe 2x tests.
Level 2: Test 3, Test 4
Level 3: Two of the 5x tests.
And that'll cost you $700. (if you pass all of them the first time). To really convince people that you are a true linux guru (not just another LCP), you should ofcourse pass all of them.
The good news is, you can still plunk down the remaining $2500 to visit all the linux conventions to show of your bundle of certificates.
Johan Veenstra (Not Certified, you have to take my word for it)
Yep i'm running in compilation mode:
sed, sort, cut, expand, fmt, head, join, nl, od, paste, pr, split, tac, tail, tr, wc, xargs, tee, ps, top, kill, bg, fg, jobs, fdisk, mkfs, quota, edquota, repquota, quotaon, chmod, umask, chown, chgrp, find, locate, which, updatedb, shutdown, init, useradd, userdel, groupadd, gpasswd, passwd, group, shadow, gshadow.
To linux/unix users this seems pretty easy (which ofcourse it is), but it's gonna take somebody who's never worked with unix some time to learn all these commands, I can tell you that.
Johan Veenstra
Take a look at the list of exams they are developing:
:)
1: General Linux, part I,
2: General Linux, part II,
2a: Caldera-specific,
2b: Debian-specific,
2c: TurboLinux-specific,
2d: Red Hat-specific,
2e: Slackware-specific,
2f: SuSE-specific
That's $800 already.
They are planning another 7 test in the future:
3: Advanced,
4: Linux Internals,
5a: Windows Integration,
5b: Internet Server,
5c: Datebase Server,
5d: Security, Firewalls, and Encryption,
5e: Kernel Drivers and Packages
That makes a total of 15 tests! So the guru's out there (who probably ace all of them without any further study) have to pay $1500 to 'prove' they are at least modestly proficient at linux. Seems like a lot of money to me, but hey if the boss is paying, who cares? Getting a few days off to study won't hurt either
Johan Veenstra
English is not my first language. I had to read that sentence a couple of times before it started to make sense to me.
Reading a foreign language can be difficult at times, especially when the english used is plain incorrect.
Definately cool, but somehow it seemed that I've seem them a long time ago. Could it be that they've been posted at slashdot before?
Johan Veenstra
Using doom to kill processes, beats 'kill 23641' any day.
The only thing that scares you is that some people can get that good at playing quake(1,2,3).
Now let me tell you this, those guys that were kicking your bud, are probably only half decent q3 players. If they were any good, you wouldn't have scored a single point before they reach a 100.
A good q3 player would kick their bud, and they would start screaming of faul play. The good player would lauch his head of, while chatting and railing.
Don't even get me started on expert players. They kick you bud before you even know they're in the game. They'll rail you from places you didn't know existed and leave the game because you bore them to death.
As some other poster pointed out, the 'secret' is 'skills'.
If your skills are lacking:
- do not aim for the top spot, but try to make it to the top 4. Avoid the better players for the time being, be a coward, it pays off.
- find another server where you can possibly make it to the top spot.
- quit playing.
Johan Veenstra
When I read slashdot, I automatically log in as a user. When I write a comment, it is automatically credited to me.
I can't see the difference between this and the amazon patent. I really can't. Can anyone convince me otherwise?
Johan
> Pentium (from penta, meaning five).
:)
>
> Then the Pentium 2 came along, which according
> to what I know is a 686. I just assumed that
> they didn't call it a Sextium becase some idiot
> would think that Intel was out to corrupt the
> morals of our children.
Wouldn't hexium be the more logical followup to
pentium? ( Hexa meaning 6? ) Kind of cool name
hexium, I thought about copyrighting it when the
pentium came out, maybe somebody else did
> Now the Pentium 3 is out, and it is supposedly a
> 786. Why it's not called a Sentium I do not
> know.
Heptium? (Hepta meaning 7). Doesn't sound very
fast now does it?
> Now we have a Pentium 4 on the way. Shouldn't it
> be called an Octium?
Now that would be a nice name for a processor.
Yo.
You're missing some important part about religion. Religion is not about explaining things, and especially not about explaining where God came from. The most important part of religion is faith, faith is not to be explained, but to be believed, not because it is logical, but just because you do.
Johan
Good joke,
and it really has a lot of truth to it, you have to create life from your own dirt, to really call it your own.
This made me think about how we can go about and create life from cratch. We would have to create our own matter and own physics before we can do anything.
Then I asked myself, haven't we done this already? Haven't we created our own physics? Haven't we used our own physics to create life already?
I think we did. We have created our own mathematical laws, and used those laws to create our own mathematical life. From a very small set of values (0, 1) and rules (AND, OR), we created dynamically interacting entities (programs), that sometimes even recreate themselves (virusses).
So all you programmers out there, keep on creating those programming perls.
Johan
This must be the first OS I downloaded within one second :-)
0.27 seconds to be precise....
Johan
IIRC it stands for If I Recall Correctly
Yo.
Why is this post moderated to 0?
It can be very annoying to readers in outside the US that times are noted in PST, EST, CST and I don't know what. Why use all those standards (which are in fact local standards to you guys in America) on a global medium like the internet?
Have you read the introduction? It clearly states that no embargo is in place. So free trade is stil l in place.
You cannot buy a PIII without the serial number, so consumer choice is limited.
No government intervention is needed? What about no NSA/FBI intervention is needed.
I don't mind that a lot of mags die a slow death, there are too many of them around anyway.
Why would a mag die?
-Lack of interesting content.
Very easy to keep publishing the same kind of info, that was once very interesting, but may have become really annoying because times have changed. So a mag should be aware of why it exists.
-Too high a price.
There is a limit to what the masses want to pay for a mag. Keeping advertisers happy can be difficult, but giving your advertisers better reviews then others is a sure way to die. It will get noticed by the readers, they will stop reading your mag and the mag fades out like a candle. So keeping the readers interested is of vital importance.
-Wrong layout.
The wrong layout can really be devestating. A mag should look inviting, be easy to navigate, but all of this shouldn't be a problem when the right people work in the right places.
-Outdated information.
Well that can be a real problem. The net provides the most up to date info there is. But a lot of people don't want to look for it on the web, or read it on a computer screen, they want to receive a mag on a regular bases, so they can read of in the bathroom, in bed or in the train to work.
All I'm saying is, the ones that remain are the onces I would the to read. Some mags disappear, but they disappear for a reason, they weren't good enough, they published info too few people were willing to pay for, the published info that was old when it hit the shelves, they didn't replect the times we live in.
Some mags remain and other will take the place of the onces that have gone. These are the mags we want to read, these are the mags that publish interesting and up to date stuff, these are the mags we read in the bathroom and the se are the mags we read when commuting to our work places.
So if some mags go out of print it's not a sign of the end of all mags, but more a sign of renewal.
Yo.
Ok, you just made clear that the loan was illegal (or in the words of the court, frowned upon). And therefore sticking to bill to visa is logical.
Suppose someone gets payed to break into a house. In the process of breaking in that someone kills the owner of the house.
Following your reasoning, the one who ordered the break-in, should go to jail for murder, and the one that murdered gets away with breaking and entering.
What I'm saying is, the court could fine visa for loaning the woman an illegal loan. The woman should pay the $70.000, just because she was the one spending the money.
As someone else pointed out, what would have happened if she'd won $1.000.000. Would visa have received the $1.000.000 as well, because the loan was illegal, and therefore she was gambling with visa's money.
Why don't you fire up a freech freely session with your team mate(s)?
> Argh... Oh, and the default hash function knows > about char *s, but the default hash EQUALITY > routine just compares addresses!!)
From an OO perspective, that is 'equality'. Two
objects that happen to contain the same
information, are still two different objects,
and thus not equal.
Johan Veenstra