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I only wish some kind gent would role the ebuild for the source so I can emerge it into Gentoo from portage.
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emerge mozilla
I'm not sure how bleeding edge the ebuild guy for Mozilla gets (I use phoenix/firebird myself), but if nothing else I'm sure he'll make one for 1.4 final. Until then, if you need bleeding edge -- I'd suggest checking out this thread on gentoo's forums about making a mozilla-cvs based ebuild.
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Gar. I guess that's what I get for trying to make a post while I'm having trouble even focusing my eyes.
Anyway.. continuation of the third paragraph:
At high bitrates, Vorbis starts losing its advantage, not because it sounds particularly bad at high bitrates, just that it doesn't really sound any better compared to lower bitrates. MP3 on the other hand, goes from unlisten-to-able at 96kbps and lower (for your average user probably.. 128kbps is BARELY listen-to-able IMO) to sounding fairly good at 160-192kbps.. to sounding fairly transparent at the --alt-preset standard level (which, IIRC, ranges from 180-224kbps).
Among the only real "audiophile" community I know of, Hydrogenaudio, the "in" thing at the moment is actually neither Vorbis nor MP3, but Musepack. It does have the same possible patent problems MP3 has, but I really do think that MPC is probably the de-facto high quality music compression algorithm out at the moment.
For archive purposes (backing up music CDs and such), if you have the CDs for it, I'd skip the lossy codecs all together and go for APE or FLAC.
For play on the harddrive, unless you're an audiophile with great speakers/headphones, I'd say a mid-quality level ogg/vorbis encode would probably have the best bang for your byte, even more so on a MP3 player with limited space.
Do you want "high quality" or "decent use of space?" Ogg/Vorbis is definitely tuned for low bitrates, assuming you aren't too using too sensitive equipment, it's hard to make this audio format sound bad -- even at 45kbps it's listen-to-able, although it's not archive quality..
I don't like MP3 much, VBR in itself is a hack, as are a lot of the "standards" that the whole MP3 crowds seem to follow, but all in all, once you get at and above the 160kbps range, it starts sounding decent. At high bitrates, Vorbis starts losing its advantage, not because it sounds particularly bad at high bitrates, just that it doesn't really sound any better compared to
APE and such shouldn't really be compared to MP3 and Ogg/Vorbis, however, since they're really for two different groups of people -- MP3 and Vorbis are decidedly lossy, you can make files smaller, but at a loss of quality. APE and FLAC (my preference when it comes to these kinds of codecs) are both lossless, and while there are compression "levels" for both APE and FLAC, they only make size varients of a few Kb overall, and they're lossless quality levels.. it's just it will take longer to encode.
(disclaimer: the statements I just made were made from my lazy experience with these two formats, using no double blind form of testing such as ABX to verify what I believe)
As another poster said, Portage isn't a simple port of ports (would a "port" really be *needed*? ports isn't that complicated from the surface), but really another package system entirely, only based aroudn the same idea of ports:
you have a/usr/portage dir much like you would have a/usr/src/ports (I think.. been a while since I used *BSD:)), and instead of "make"ing ports like you do in *BSD, you have an actual Python script called emerge -- that takes info from an ebuild (which simply gives info about the program you're attempting to build).. I forget how ports handled dependancies, but if needed, emerge will automatically upgrade libraries seemlessly (it also detects weird version things.. like how KDE2 programs won't be able to work with KDE3.. so it'll change its behavior accordingly)
One of the best features of Portage is the "pretend" switch -- emerge -p will show you what it will have to install in order to get that package to install. ie; if you emerge kmail as one of your first emerges, you'll end up installing about 50 different packages because of kmail's KDE dependancy.
Something I vaguely remember about ports was that it installed the libs in non-standard locations (or rather used non-standard lib names), so if you need/want to compile something directly from the source, you'll have to figure out where exactly X lib is.. but with gentoo, I don't have that problem.. I suppose it's possible ports might not have that problem anymore either.:P
I guess in essence there's really not all *that* much difference between the two, but while it may just be me talking as the Gotten-Used-to-Gentoo guy I am, but Portage just feels more streamlined and not as (pardon the blasphemy) slapped together when compared to ports.
Both do the job though, there's no real need to switch to Gentoo *just* because of Portage.. but for what it's worth, Portage is *the* reason I use Gentoo over any other linux distro.
Er, he's talking about a rental -- not something you'd buy and keep.
Meaning, why would it matter whether the "rest of the movie 'experience'" was left in tact -- the "rest of the movie 'experience'" is NEVER left intact when it comes to rentals, at BBV -- you're lucky enough to be able to bring home a generic Blockbuster DVD case with a customized description on the back. With Netflix, you get a flimsy CD sleeve with the name of the movie on it.
Of course, with burning on demand, you probably wouldn't get much more than a BBV/Netflix branded generic looking DVD-R instead of the actual DVD disc cover.
(speaking in general now) Although, burning DVDs on demand presents a logistical problem outside of cost -- how will they keep track of who has what? Currently, BBV (and I'm sure Netflix employs a system similiar) employs a barcode system that can tell an employee three things -- the storecode the movie was from, the part number of the movie (think of it as an ISBN, only for a rental) and the part number, which basically stands for the "nth" copy of the movie we have.
When someone checks out a movie at BBV, it'll ring up ontheir account that they checked out (just making up a number) 331314932456001.. the first copy of Blah Movie from storecode 13149 (the "33" is just a prefix to signify a rental).. another guy might check out 331314932456032, the 32nd copy of the same movie.. and all is well. When they return their copy of Blah movie, all an employee would have to do is scan the movie in on Checkin/Dropbox mode, and the computer will take care of the rest, automagically taking the movie off their account and putting any late fees on their account they may have accrued.
Now, the storecode and part number function could easily be dynamically duplicated in the "on demand" process, but probably the most important part of being able to tell who has what is the copy number. As stuff is returned, I can't really think of a fool proof (which you really NEED for a place like BBV, you don't exactly have to be a rocket scientist to work there) method of making sure it gets checked in to the right account properly.
Unfortunately Nausicaa is one of the many titles Disney has decided to sit on for the time being, but hopefully we'll get a release date from them about that..
Heh, if you're interested in seeing how the plot for Nausicaa flows out without having to resort to pirating -- I'd recommend checking out the manga, written and drawn by Miyazaki himself.
Four volumes long and possibly one of the most beautiful and breathtaking manga I've ever read.
I've not seen the movie myself so I can't compare the two, but for those who want some legit domestic Nausicaa-ness, check it out.:)
Also FYI, from what I remember, the movie only covers about 1-2 vols of the manga, so if you want to see the whole story, you'll definitely have to get it.:)
While I don't know if you'll get the best deal here or not, I usually get most of my manga from Robert's Anime Corner. Here's a direct link to the manga in question.
That's a bit misleading. I don't know if you weren't trying to imply that anime is less commercialized, but if you were -- you're wrong.
I suppose you have somewhat of a skewed perspective because anime is indeed a niche market in America, but if anything, the Japanese anime market is MORE commericalized than Hollywood is. Granted, we have formulaic cookie cutter movies with the cute new actor the girls swoon over making a few millions in the box office when decent, albeit low budget and more experimental movies like Memento all but bomb in the box office.
But it's much the same in Japan. Anime is a business, first and foremost. If I had to make a guess, as to which animation studio has been the most successful animation studio in the last few years (aside from Sunrise, probably).. judging by "the fansub scene," it wouldn't be the ones who brought us Boogiepop Phantom or Neon Genesis Evangelion (or more recently, His & Her Circumstances and Mahoromatic.. and, gag.. Abenobashi Mahou Shoutengai)..it would be the ones who brought us such formula anime such as Vandread, Full Metal Panic and RORI Grade (er, excuse me, Kiddy Grade, rather) -- where the only thing bigger than the obvious lack of imagination is the set of knockers the main female character is totin'.
Let me just say this -- it's a sad day in Japan when Chii wins NewType magazine's award for 2002 female character of 2002 -- a robot with no personality and amounts to not much more than a fuckdoll fantasy for the fanboys. And people into anime wonder why the "all anime=pr0n" stereotype still exists.. sigh.
And formulaic cookie cutter anime isn't where it ends -- if you thought the commercialization is bad here, where you can buy action figures for your favorite Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle or Transformer.. Just take a look at places like Robert's Anime Corner or CDJapan and you'll easily probably be able to find pretty much any nick, nack or merchandise based on your favorite series. Not that I'm particularly complaining about that part, though -- being able to own the score for my favorite show is a godsend.. even if with shipping I end up paying about 3x more than you probably would for "overpriced" domestic CDs.:)
Now, don't get me wrong, as much as I seem to be flaming it, it's only my shameful nature and common sense that I don't go out roaming the streets proclaiming myself an otaku in my spare time. Anime (as could cartoons, if people could get past the mentality that their maturity is somehow threatened if they watch something WITHOUT REAL PEOPLE!) is a great medium for expression and, like you say -- does really hold more potential than live action does, if power is given to the right person. IMHO, of course.
Basically, I appreciate your appreciation for anime, but don't put it on a pedistol it doesn't belong on.
Aside from that, I pretty much agree with you -- if you don't like anime, nobody's forcing you to watch it. I don't bother asking teenie boppers why I should like N'Sync.. why should anime be any different?:/
Heh, I love Lain's artwork -- I wouldn't have a wallscroll hanging on my wall from it otherwise.:)
yoshitoshi ABe (responsible for atleast the designs/manga for Lain, Niea Under 7, and Haibane Renmei) is probably my favorite Japanese/anime artists.. rivaled only by Yoshiyuki Sadamoto.. who does the designs for GAINAX studios, responsible for such things as Neon Genesis Evangelion and FLCL..
Although, what do you mean by "artwork," exactly? Did you not like how the characters were styled, or did you find the animation less than stellar? I would admit that from what I remember, I don't think Lain had that great animation..
And like someone else said, Kanon was originally a dating sim turned into an anime. I'm not sure whether it's a hentai (pornographic) game, but yeah.. I'm sure its original form is a lot more racy than the anime, but that was a list of anime.. not games.;) To Heart and Comic Party were also based on hentai games, but were made in such a way that you'd only know they were based on hentai is if you did the research yourself.
Heh, Japan is even more commericalized than America is, honestly. It's almost silly how much goodies I got with a Limited Edition R2 I bought a few months ago..
* superjaded looks at his smallish stack of anime OSTs/singles and hides his drool from a Boogiepop Phantom artbook he's been eying..
Nope, I never fall victim to the Japanese market machine.:/
But as far as fanservice goes, it really just depends what you consider fanservice.. or what you consider kiddy...
Here's some stuff off the top of my head:
Saishuuheiki Kanojo (yes.. I know it has some eh, risque scenes but they're done in such a way that I'd be afraid if anyone "got off" on these scenes:/ hardly a service to the fans) Grave of the Fireflies Princess Mononoke Mimi wo Sumeseba Azumanga Daioh Haibane Renmei NieA_7 Serial Experiments Lain Boogiepop Phantom Kareshi Kanojo no Jijou Hana Yori Dango Juuni Kokki Crest of the Stars (Seikai no Senki I/II/Seikai no Danshou) Blue Sub 6.hack (Sign/Liminality) Inuyasha Kaze no Yojimbo To Heart Kanon Comic Party Cardcaptor Sakura Full Moon wo Sagashite (these two are probably stretching it from the "kiddy" angle..) sCRYed Witch Hunter Robin (I've not seen all of it.. but I don't remember any fanservice) Shaman King Star Ocean EX RahXephon (that I remember) Sentou Yosei Yukikaze i - wish you were here Whistle! Initial D (atleast I hope to god there's no fanservice in here -- butt ugly character designs) Spiral Piano Ah! My Goddess: The Movie (don't remember if there was any in the OAV, but if there was, not much) Escaflowne Boys Be.. Fruits Basket You're Under Arrest Laputa: Castle in the Sky Kaze no Tani no Naushika Getbackers (That I've seen) Kanojo to Kanojo no neko X (no fanservice for guys, anyway;))
People's taste vary, while I think a given person is more likely to like anime (if they give it ampule chance) than something from Disney simply because of the enormous variety found in animation from Japan. As should be implied though, anime isn't for everyone.. so perhaps it's not for you. That's your choice to make, not ours.
I like anime because, for one, I've always liked animation and two, anime offers more mature storylines that most Disney preprocessed stuff out there. I won't argue that anime is any more mature than some of the American live action stuff out there, but saying that there wasn't much storyline to them just proves that you've probably only seen what Blockbuster carries.;)
If you have TechTV, I'd heartily recommend watching/recording Crest of the Stars (you could always buy Bandai's DVDs if you're so inclined, as well:P). While the dub doesn't do the show justice, it should be decent enough to carry along the storyline, which is one of the more engaging and interesting shows I've seen in a long while; it's just unfortunate that it's wildly underrated compared to how popular it should be. It focuses A LOT on character development with a good amount of action..
Also remembers that anime is a medium, not a genre. Just because you have seen one anime does NOT mean you have seen them all. It's not all humanoid robots and buffed up monkey men that take an episode in order to power up a single Ki blast..
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emerge mozilla
I'm not sure how bleeding edge the ebuild guy for Mozilla gets (I use phoenix/firebird myself), but if nothing else I'm sure he'll make one for 1.4 final. Until then, if you need bleeding edge -- I'd suggest checking out this thread on gentoo's forums about making a mozilla-cvs based ebuild.
Heh, nope!
Mozilla isn't the database, Firebird is.
No, wait.. that's the wrong URL -- this is the right one.
Gar. I guess that's what I get for trying to make a post while I'm having trouble even focusing my eyes.
Anyway.. continuation of the third paragraph:
At high bitrates, Vorbis starts losing its advantage, not because it sounds particularly bad at high bitrates, just that it doesn't really sound any better compared to lower bitrates. MP3 on the other hand, goes from unlisten-to-able at 96kbps and lower (for your average user probably.. 128kbps is BARELY listen-to-able IMO) to sounding fairly good at 160-192kbps.. to sounding fairly transparent at the --alt-preset standard level (which, IIRC, ranges from 180-224kbps).
Among the only real "audiophile" community I know of, Hydrogenaudio, the "in" thing at the moment is actually neither Vorbis nor MP3, but Musepack. It does have the same possible patent problems MP3 has, but I really do think that MPC is probably the de-facto high quality music compression algorithm out at the moment.
For archive purposes (backing up music CDs and such), if you have the CDs for it, I'd skip the lossy codecs all together and go for APE or FLAC.
For play on the harddrive, unless you're an audiophile with great speakers/headphones, I'd say a mid-quality level ogg/vorbis encode would probably have the best bang for your byte, even more so on a MP3 player with limited space.
It depends.
Do you want "high quality" or "decent use of space?" Ogg/Vorbis is definitely tuned for low bitrates, assuming you aren't too using too sensitive equipment, it's hard to make this audio format sound bad -- even at 45kbps it's listen-to-able, although it's not archive quality..
I don't like MP3 much, VBR in itself is a hack, as are a lot of the "standards" that the whole MP3 crowds seem to follow, but all in all, once you get at and above the 160kbps range, it starts sounding decent. At high bitrates, Vorbis starts losing its advantage, not because it sounds particularly bad at high bitrates, just that it doesn't really sound any better compared to
APE and such shouldn't really be compared to MP3 and Ogg/Vorbis, however, since they're really for two different groups of people -- MP3 and Vorbis are decidedly lossy, you can make files smaller, but at a loss of quality. APE and FLAC (my preference when it comes to these kinds of codecs) are both lossless, and while there are compression "levels" for both APE and FLAC, they only make size varients of a few Kb overall, and they're lossless quality levels.. it's just it will take longer to encode. (disclaimer: the statements I just made were made from my lazy experience with these two formats, using no double blind form of testing such as ABX to verify what I believe)
As another poster said, Portage isn't a simple port of ports (would a "port" really be *needed*? ports isn't that complicated from the surface), but really another package system entirely, only based aroudn the same idea of ports:
/usr/portage dir much like you would have a /usr/src/ports (I think.. been a while since I used *BSD :)), and instead of "make"ing ports like you do in *BSD, you have an actual Python script called emerge -- that takes info from an ebuild (which simply gives info about the program you're attempting to build).. I forget how ports handled dependancies, but if needed, emerge will automatically upgrade libraries seemlessly (it also detects weird version things.. like how KDE2 programs won't be able to work with KDE3.. so it'll change its behavior accordingly)
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you have a
One of the best features of Portage is the "pretend" switch -- emerge -p will show you what it will have to install in order to get that package to install. ie; if you emerge kmail as one of your first emerges, you'll end up installing about 50 different packages because of kmail's KDE dependancy.
Something I vaguely remember about ports was that it installed the libs in non-standard locations (or rather used non-standard lib names), so if you need/want to compile something directly from the source, you'll have to figure out where exactly X lib is.. but with gentoo, I don't have that problem.. I suppose it's possible ports might not have that problem anymore either.
I guess in essence there's really not all *that* much difference between the two, but while it may just be me talking as the Gotten-Used-to-Gentoo guy I am, but Portage just feels more streamlined and not as (pardon the blasphemy) slapped together when compared to ports.
Both do the job though, there's no real need to switch to Gentoo *just* because of Portage.. but for what it's worth, Portage is *the* reason I use Gentoo over any other linux distro.
Er, he's talking about a rental -- not something you'd buy and keep.
.. the first copy of Blah Movie from storecode 13149 (the "33" is just a prefix to signify a rental).. another guy might check out 331314932456032, the 32nd copy of the same movie.. and all is well. When they return their copy of Blah movie, all an employee would have to do is scan the movie in on Checkin/Dropbox mode, and the computer will take care of the rest, automagically taking the movie off their account and putting any late fees on their account they may have accrued.
Meaning, why would it matter whether the "rest of the movie 'experience'" was left in tact -- the "rest of the movie 'experience'" is NEVER left intact when it comes to rentals, at BBV -- you're lucky enough to be able to bring home a generic Blockbuster DVD case with a customized description on the back. With Netflix, you get a flimsy CD sleeve with the name of the movie on it.
Of course, with burning on demand, you probably wouldn't get much more than a BBV/Netflix branded generic looking DVD-R instead of the actual DVD disc cover.
(speaking in general now) Although, burning DVDs on demand presents a logistical problem outside of cost -- how will they keep track of who has what? Currently, BBV (and I'm sure Netflix employs a system similiar) employs a barcode system that can tell an employee three things -- the storecode the movie was from, the part number of the movie (think of it as an ISBN, only for a rental) and the part number, which basically stands for the "nth" copy of the movie we have.
When someone checks out a movie at BBV, it'll ring up ontheir account that they checked out (just making up a number) 331314932456001
Now, the storecode and part number function could easily be dynamically duplicated in the "on demand" process, but probably the most important part of being able to tell who has what is the copy number. As stuff is returned, I can't really think of a fool proof (which you really NEED for a place like BBV, you don't exactly have to be a rocket scientist to work there) method of making sure it gets checked in to the right account properly.
Unfortunately Nausicaa is one of the many titles Disney has decided to sit on for the time being, but hopefully we'll get a release date from them about that..
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Heh, if you're interested in seeing how the plot for Nausicaa flows out without having to resort to pirating -- I'd recommend checking out the manga, written and drawn by Miyazaki himself.
Four volumes long and possibly one of the most beautiful and breathtaking manga I've ever read.
I've not seen the movie myself so I can't compare the two, but for those who want some legit domestic Nausicaa-ness, check it out.
Also FYI, from what I remember, the movie only covers about 1-2 vols of the manga, so if you want to see the whole story, you'll definitely have to get it.
While I don't know if you'll get the best deal here or not, I usually get most of my manga from Robert's Anime Corner. Here's a direct link to the manga in question.
Heh, I use Gentoo.
No, not the linux distribution (well, I *do* use Gentoo as my linux distro, but that's beside the point) -- gentoo the filemanager.
It's a fairly minimal and useful FM once you get it configured for your liking. Definitely better than Konq, IMO.
That's a bit misleading. I don't know if you weren't trying to imply that anime is less commercialized, but if you were -- you're wrong.
I suppose you have somewhat of a skewed perspective because anime is indeed a niche market in America, but if anything, the Japanese anime market is MORE commericalized than Hollywood is. Granted, we have formulaic cookie cutter movies with the cute new actor the girls swoon over making a few millions in the box office when decent, albeit low budget and more experimental movies like Memento all but bomb in the box office.
But it's much the same in Japan. Anime is a business, first and foremost. If I had to make a guess, as to which animation studio has been the most successful animation studio in the last few years (aside from Sunrise, probably).. judging by "the fansub scene," it wouldn't be the ones who brought us Boogiepop Phantom or Neon Genesis Evangelion (or more recently, His & Her Circumstances and Mahoromatic.. and, gag.. Abenobashi Mahou Shoutengai)..it would be the ones who brought us such formula anime such as Vandread, Full Metal Panic and RORI Grade (er, excuse me, Kiddy Grade, rather) -- where the only thing bigger than the obvious lack of imagination is the set of knockers the main female character is totin'.
Let me just say this -- it's a sad day in Japan when Chii wins NewType magazine's award for 2002 female character of 2002 -- a robot with no personality and amounts to not much more than a fuckdoll fantasy for the fanboys. And people into anime wonder why the "all anime=pr0n" stereotype still exists.. sigh.
And formulaic cookie cutter anime isn't where it ends -- if you thought the commercialization is bad here, where you can buy action figures for your favorite Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle or Transformer.. Just take a look at places like Robert's Anime Corner or CDJapan and you'll easily probably be able to find pretty much any nick, nack or merchandise based on your favorite series. Not that I'm particularly complaining about that part, though -- being able to own the score for my favorite show is a godsend.. even if with shipping I end up paying about 3x more than you probably would for "overpriced" domestic CDs.
Now, don't get me wrong, as much as I seem to be flaming it, it's only my shameful nature and common sense that I don't go out roaming the streets proclaiming myself an otaku in my spare time. Anime (as could cartoons, if people could get past the mentality that their maturity is somehow threatened if they watch something WITHOUT REAL PEOPLE!) is a great medium for expression and, like you say -- does really hold more potential than live action does, if power is given to the right person. IMHO, of course.
Basically, I appreciate your appreciation for anime, but don't put it on a pedistol it doesn't belong on.
Aside from that, I pretty much agree with you -- if you don't like anime, nobody's forcing you to watch it. I don't bother asking teenie boppers why I should like N'Sync.. why should anime be any different?
Heh, I love Lain's artwork -- I wouldn't have a wallscroll hanging on my wall from it otherwise. :)
;) To Heart and Comic Party were also based on hentai games, but were made in such a way that you'd only know they were based on hentai is if you did the research yourself.
yoshitoshi ABe (responsible for atleast the designs/manga for Lain, Niea Under 7, and Haibane Renmei) is probably my favorite Japanese/anime artists.. rivaled only by Yoshiyuki Sadamoto.. who does the designs for GAINAX studios, responsible for such things as Neon Genesis Evangelion and FLCL..
Although, what do you mean by "artwork," exactly? Did you not like how the characters were styled, or did you find the animation less than stellar? I would admit that from what I remember, I don't think Lain had that great animation..
And like someone else said, Kanon was originally a dating sim turned into an anime. I'm not sure whether it's a hentai (pornographic) game, but yeah.. I'm sure its original form is a lot more racy than the anime, but that was a list of anime.. not games.
Heh, Japan is even more commericalized than America is, honestly. It's almost silly how much goodies I got with a Limited Edition R2 I bought a few months ago..
:/
:/ hardly a service to the fans) .hack (Sign/Liminality) ;))
* superjaded looks at his smallish stack of anime OSTs/singles and hides his drool from a Boogiepop Phantom artbook he's been eying..
Nope, I never fall victim to the Japanese market machine.
But as far as fanservice goes, it really just depends what you consider fanservice.. or what you consider kiddy...
Here's some stuff off the top of my head:
Saishuuheiki Kanojo (yes.. I know it has some eh, risque scenes but they're done in such a way that I'd be afraid if anyone "got off" on these scenes
Grave of the Fireflies
Princess Mononoke
Mimi wo Sumeseba
Azumanga Daioh
Haibane Renmei
NieA_7
Serial Experiments Lain
Boogiepop Phantom
Kareshi Kanojo no Jijou
Hana Yori Dango
Juuni Kokki
Crest of the Stars (Seikai no Senki I/II/Seikai no Danshou)
Blue Sub 6
Inuyasha
Kaze no Yojimbo
To Heart
Kanon
Comic Party
Cardcaptor Sakura
Full Moon wo Sagashite (these two are probably stretching it from the "kiddy" angle..)
sCRYed
Witch Hunter Robin (I've not seen all of it.. but I don't remember any fanservice)
Shaman King
Star Ocean EX
RahXephon (that I remember)
Sentou Yosei Yukikaze
i - wish you were here
Whistle!
Initial D (atleast I hope to god there's no fanservice in here -- butt ugly character designs)
Spiral
Piano
Ah! My Goddess: The Movie (don't remember if there was any in the OAV, but if there was, not much)
Escaflowne
Boys Be..
Fruits Basket
You're Under Arrest
Laputa: Castle in the Sky
Kaze no Tani no Naushika
Getbackers (That I've seen)
Kanojo to Kanojo no neko
X (no fanservice for guys, anyway
People's taste vary, while I think a given person is more likely to like anime (if they give it ampule chance) than something from Disney simply because of the enormous variety found in animation from Japan. As should be implied though, anime isn't for everyone.. so perhaps it's not for you. That's your choice to make, not ours.
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:P). While the dub doesn't do the show justice, it should be decent enough to carry along the storyline, which is one of the more engaging and interesting shows I've seen in a long while; it's just unfortunate that it's wildly underrated compared to how popular it should be. It focuses A LOT on character development with a good amount of action ..
I like anime because, for one, I've always liked animation and two, anime offers more mature storylines that most Disney preprocessed stuff out there. I won't argue that anime is any more mature than some of the American live action stuff out there, but saying that there wasn't much storyline to them just proves that you've probably only seen what Blockbuster carries.
If you have TechTV, I'd heartily recommend watching/recording Crest of the Stars (you could always buy Bandai's DVDs if you're so inclined, as well
Also remembers that anime is a medium, not a genre. Just because you have seen one anime does NOT mean you have seen them all. It's not all humanoid robots and buffed up monkey men that take an episode in order to power up a single Ki blast..