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Miyazaki's 'Spirited Away' Wins Best Animated Picture
DavidBrown writes "Moments ago, Hayao Miyazaki won the Best Animated Picture award for 'Spirited Away.' It's about time."
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Cripes, it was only minutes ago. I hope we don't hear every little detail before its done. :)
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Just curious, how long was this one in the preview que (or whatever) before it got posted to Slashdot?
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This, and the Two Towers are the best films I've seen in the last year.
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features Chihiro interacting with a monkey called mono. great cartoon :^)
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Is it still anime if it's from disney?
Does this mean I'll have to start caring about the Oscars?
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Well, I'm glad to see an anime win an Oscar, but I've still not seen "Spirited Away"... Oh well, just as soon as NetFlix get it... :-)
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I showed this movie to my whole family. Great flick and I highly recommend it to anyone who enjoys watching fantasy. The story is very good-hearted and the plot and fantasy aspects are amazing.
Some would compare it to Harry Potter, but really it's much more... intellectual.
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Let's see now if Disney makes good on its promise to re-release Spirited Away to theatres with equal backing as Lilo and Stich was given.
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was the BEST movie that i saw in a long time. It had a wonderful story that appealed to adults and children. The cinematography was excellent as well. It too bad americans still make a distinction between animated movies and live action ones.
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this is a very deserved Oscar! :P
the movie deserves it, Miyazaki deserves it and anime deserves it.
this is a good thing for anime
p.s. and the other movies all sucked compared to this
Smile... tomorrow will be worse.
Just minutes after this got posted, the Lord Of The Rings: The Two Towers won the award for Visual Effects, featuring Gollum.
I went to see Adaptation (gotta love Spike Jonze) at my towns cool little indy theater the Cla-Zel, and they ran a preview for the American release of SA. I've already seen the actual movie a while ago at a theater up in Toledo, but it was a good trailer...
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Miyazaki is THE best animator ever. Disney had it's best decades ago. "Sen to Chihiro no Kami Kakushi" is the best of breed, without a doubt.
But then again, Disney and Dreamworks put forth anything *that* good or *that* original.
Spirited away had originality and a nice fuzzy feeling with it too, with a sense of wonder too.
And it's gonna change the way the critics view anime from now on, too. I wonder if maybe they'll do "Best anime film..." Nah...
The information this post provides is:
1. Who won the Oscar
2. Which Category
3. Which Movie
There is no related story explaining why this is such a great thing. The post a lsodoes not explain this. Now this is not a case of someone complaining without reading the related story, so can someone please explain what happened???
You really need to remember that slashdot is actually read outside the US as well where the Oscars is aired later in the evening.
I havent seen this one yet Guess what i am going to have to do tomorow he he
but i think End of "evangelion" should have won anyway
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Miyazaki has directed an unusually large number of very nice animated pieces, and Studio Ghibli is well known as delivering some of the highest quality films out there, live or animated. I hope that this may do something to bring more mainstream appreciation to animation as an adult story telling medium in the United States.
As a note, if anyone is interested in seeing a list of other films by Miyazaki and Studio Ghibli, they can look at nausicaa.net.
...The movie is coming out on Region 1 DVD April 15, 2003. Along with Kiki's Delivery Service and Castle in the Sky.
Why, when I see any white speaking Japanese, watching "anime," wallowing in pseudo-Japanese culture, or wishing he were Japanese, do I immedately think "lives in his parents' basement with a career at the local Blockbuster"?
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Spirited Away was fighting against such notable animated features as "Treasure Planet."
In the field of drawn animation, Japan is a whole other ballgame.
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but storylines like the ones that Little Ninjai has blow me away. Its a wonderful myraid of anime but for some reason it seems americanized in a way. I know this is a little offtopic but if you look at it in a way I am talking about something similar to the subject and sort of "pimping out Little Ninjai" for those of you who havn't seen it. I'd just like to see more of that "something" that most anime's seem to lack. Don't get me wrong, I loved Tenchi Meauo (I know thats spelled wrong, but just pronounce it)
It's good to see something non-mainstream in the US but still definitively good win.
I do security
This is a Good Thing[tm] but I'd say its victory is mostly due to the extremely unremarkable American animated features this year. When an anime movie wins best foreign language move wake me up.
p.s. does "Harry Potter" not count for anything because it was a UK production?
Also ironically amusing was the Panasonic DVD recorder commercial that had a voiceover to the effect of something like "watch what you want, when you want."
Can't you see that everyone is buying station wagons?
I had to drag and con my 4 kids into seeing this film. They'd never heard of it, or seen ads or anything and they really did not want to go, nor did my partner. In the end we went (I used a pointed stick :-) and they all absolutely loved it and went and told all their friends by which time they movie was pulled from all local cinemas. My daughter (10) especially loved the movie, as did my partner. Wonderful stuff!
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heh, All Gollum has received thus-far is a 6 second blurb introduced by George of the Jungle. huzzah
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"pain is weakness leaving the body."At least, in my opinion. Miyazaki has done many, many films, and Spirited Away was actually one of my least favorite. Don't get me wrong, I still loved it, but anyone who liked Spirited Away really needs to see:
* Laputa - Castle in the Sky (Possibly the best anime ever)
* Girl From the Valley of the Wind
* Princess Mononoke
* Kiki's Delivery Service
* Porco Rosso (this one's just weird, but very good)
* My Neighbor Totoro
He's done plenty of others, but those are the best, IMHO.
I'd suggest getting the whole "Studio Ghibli Collection" from Anime on DVD.
Just my two cents...
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Too bad that crappy and annoying Japanese stereotypical animation has to get this kind of attention.
/. janitors so fond of animated pictures of blue-haired people with eyeballs filling 70% of the characters' cranial volumes?
Why are the
Ice Age would have been a Good choice. It's Good. It's Funny. It doesn't look like a gazillion other flicks. And, for the geeks here, it's made with computers.
Fear that Disney.. you've been beaten by something that you've tried to beat down.
Maybe now they will release a US version of the dvd. I picked up the japanese version when i was in japan in december, but i would love some english special features. The whole second disk is japanese only with no subtitles
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So let's get this straight. Spirited Away wins the Oscar, yet Disney didn't market this movie worth sh*t! I'm in a top 15 media market and all the ass clowns at Disney do is put it in a couple art houses.
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I'm glad it won, it was clearly the best film of those nominated.
But I'm hoping they will dump the animated film category soon. It just guaranties no animated file will ever win Best Picture.
What do you mean "it's about time?" You wanted Spirited Away to win the Oscar before the ceremony was held? Fucking moron.
Well deserved -- I'm not an anime fan (and I'm not young) but I loved this movie. It was more surreal and fantastical than I expected and that was a very welcome surprise.
Maybe I speak for myself, but I found this superior to the previous "most popular anime flick in the mainstream," Princess Mononoke. That movie was also great, but like other anime movies I've seen, the plot was thin, long and wandering, which I think are qualities that turn off most (western) audiences. For some reason I didn't think that Spirited Away suffered from the same problem.
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Spirited Away? That wasn't half as funny as The Simpsons, Futurama, Sealab 2021, or even King of the Hill. Yeesh, what a rip-off!
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Is it? I saw that, and was not impressed.
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Disney bought the USA rights to Miyazaki's work, so that they could control it. By under-hyping the USA releases, Disney at least breaks even, while at the same time preventing Miyazaki's work from becoming more popular than theirs.
If this anime got at least half the marketing of the crappiest Disney release...
a large % of those in utah are mormons. similarly, a large portion of those at a state school are from the host state. therefore, YOU are the jackass.
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I'd also like to use this space to promote 'Another World'. Sold as 'Out of this World' to the USA, this classic game had an excellant plot, great sound effects and fluid vector animation. Download it today!
Now I've gotta cross my fingers for Chicago to win the Best Live-Action Feature Oscar ;) I'm also wondering which film will win (or has won?) Best Animated Short... I hope it's Das Rad (aka Rocks).
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Which of these you prefer most will depend entirely one your taste, I think. One of the great things about Miyazaki is that he has a great range - all his stuff isn't the same like so many others.
I prefer Kiki's Delivery Service the best, and Spirited Away next, then Princess Mononoke. I haven't yet seen the others, but I've got some of his comics, like Nausicaa and some others.
It's so great that his work is finally coming out on Region 1 DVDs soon. Yay!
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"Helloooo, Kitty!"
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I'm really glad to see that they won. Spirited Away was an excellent, excellent movie, beautifully drawn and positively enthralling in my opinion. I was certain Lilo & Stitch would take this category simply because it was the headline Disney release this year. Kudos to Miyazaki on an absolutely fantastic piece, and kudos to the academy for recognizing it. Bet Disney wasn't expecting this...
It's about time is right.
Anime is now officially mainstream. Deal.
here in Houston, it was at virtually every theater in town.
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Let them be treated as men? One of the P.O.W. is a female soldier, you insensitive patriot.
It's also possible that if Spirited Away sees another theatrical release, Disney will delay the DVD release for however long the movie is in theatres, plus a few months. While I personally hope they release the DVD on schedule AND put it on screens out there. anime news network and nausicaa.net will probably have information from disney about this in the next few days.
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Yes, you're absolutely right. We're being so careful not to kill too many sand-monkeys, we've ended up killing some of our own people. This is, indeed, stupid.
Of course, it's also civilized.
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I was lucky to be able to see this city, which showed in 1 theatre in a city of 1 million people. It's unfortunate that it was so hard to find, but then that's why I suggest that everyone support your local independant theatre if you have one, because they generally show the best movies, not the popular ones.
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I'm sure this will get modded as off-topic or flamebait, but these awards ceremonies are nothing buy self-congratulatory nonsense. I go to work. I do my job. I don't expect people to watch a TV show about me getting recognized for doing what I'm paid to do. I don't need an emmy, a grammy, an oscar, an MTV award, a Blockbuster award, a golden globe, or a people's choice award to know whether I'm good at what I do or not.
... but for what the industry costs and what the participants earn ... everything that hits the screen aught to be worthy of an award.
I apologize for not making reference to this movie that won the award, and mod this as you please
I wish the Oscar commitee would watch "Grave of the Fireflies" someday. Though I suspect they'd be afraid the animated film would win far too many oscars ^_^
that don't care...
anime = cartoon
this movie was made in japan, did $200+ million there, disney bought the distro right for the US, and made a whopping $5.5 million in the US.
most likely the only reason disney did that was to win the oscar. the crap they make now couldn't win, and they knew it. so what is a big corporation to do? buy a ringer of course.
Er, no, not yet. April 15th. Amazon.com - Miyazaki 3-Pack
The weird thing about PM is the way Disney tried to "localise" the English version. Fortunately they didn't meddle with the story. But they hired a bunch of Name Actors to do the dubbing. Which was a waste of money, because none of the people they chose has a really distinctive voice!
Weirdest of all is hiring Neil Gaiman to "adapt" the script. God knows what that means. He didn't even make the obvious change: correcting the translators misnaming of various smoothbore weapons as "rifles".
So you owe them.
Really? With all the lobbying DisneyCo did to get the Bono Act passed?
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Miramax hired one of the best writers alive today, Neil Gaiman, to do the American version of Mononoke Hime. He went to Japan, studied the language and culture, met prominent artists there, and did his damn best (and also teamed up with Yoshitaka Amano to make a wonderful companion book to The Sandman) to not only translate it, but make it sound just as good as the original version, and yet still seem as if his script were the original. Unfortunately(?), Disney used some of its own writers to dub Spirited Away, so it's most likely not up to the caliber of Princess Mononoke, but (knock on wood) they couldn't have screwed it up too bad, right?
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Yes, you're absolutely right. We're being so careful not to kill too many sand-monkeys, we've ended up killing some of our own people. This is, indeed, stupid
I just love it when a racist fuck like you talks about stupidity.
Well they almost had to send security to get him off stage but luckily they played the ending music loud enough that he had to leave.
True. I watched it both at an AMC and an Edwards. However, it wasn't on many screens (I believe one at each) and didn't stay there long (few weeks). They did a bit better than with Mononoke, but considering how much bigger this film was in Japan, not much better. I mean, they didn't even have a frickin Happy Meal tie-in. I'm pretty sure even Cool World got a Happy Meal tie-in!
Ooooh!!! Laputa! >drools
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This should be a recognition for Miyazaki's work, rahter than just for this particular picture. What Miyazaki and Sudio Ghibli have created throughout the years is, I think, animated poetry.
On a side note: I was very disappointed with the DVD edition of "My neighbor Totoro". Such a long wait for the DVD edition, and then they f* it up. I'll just transfer my VHS movie to SVCD.
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I suppose you are talking about Kurosawa not Kirosawa. There are a bunch of web sites dedicated to the film director, but here's one (http://www2.tky.3web.ne.jp/~adk/kurosawa/AKpage.
By the way, I agree with those praise Spirited Away. It's a fantastic film, not just an animation.
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Jackass.
Hrm, better mod this offtopic. He must be talking about some typical American Hollywood film- at least that would certainly make just as much sense.
not be placed in inhumanely small cells outside of the view of the world, not given any rights, kept from the sun, their family, with no hope of ever being released.
Assuming that you are referring to the Afghans at Guantanamo, do you feel stupid?
I just heard sad news on talk radio - an American Patriot was found dead in Saddam Hussein's Iraq this morning. I'm sure we'll all miss him - even if you didn't agree with his actions you've probably enjoyed one of his freedom campaigns. Truly an American icon.
You dorks are watching that shit on tv? Don't you feel dumber after watching award shows?
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Quote from that link: "Faziakbar said he did not know how many other Afghans were still held in Guantanamo Bay"
My Japanese wife collects all of Miyazaki's movies. Spirited Away definitely deserved to win. If you enjoyed this one I highly recommend seeing his other movies as well. Interestingly, Spirited Away and Totoro (one of my all-time favourites) are the only ones I've seen either in English or subtitled, and I don't understand Japanese, but it hasn't detracted at all from my enjoyment of these movies. Basically, I just read an English summary of the movie on the Internet and then go enjoy. "Princess Mononoke" is incredible (but gory - not for young children) and you don't have to understand Japanese to enjoy it un-subtitled. "Castle In The Sky" is also great and is so vivid in it's animation you can "see" the words and intentions of the characters.
Any parents among you should introduce your child to "My Neighbour Totoro". This is by far my most favourite animated film ever and my 3 year-old daughter's as well. The magic in Miyazaki's story telling is just incredible.
For those who didn't watch: Ice Age, Lilo & Stitch, Spirit: Stallion of the Cimarron, and Treasure Planet.
I can only claim to have seen two of these, but I think I can say that "Lilo & Stitch" was the only worthwhile competition in this category. Still, it should rightly be considered remarkable that a dubbed foreign film won in this category, especially since Disney put almost no effort into promoting this film when it was released.
And on that note, it looks like Miyazaki's film "Castle in the Sky" will be released in the US on DVD at the same time as "Spirited Away", both of which should get a lot more attention from Disney now than they did last calendar year. Hey, whatever works....
Amazon.com will be selling a triple pack of those three Ghibli films when they're released all at once, for $63 (instead of $90 separately at your local Suncoast).
Lilo and Stitch was a damn fine movie too. It had been awhile since Disney released a movie that got that special balance between kid-friendly and more sophisticated adult humor. And it was beautiful (being set in Hawaii helped there). No silly music, (except for THE KING), and a weighty plotline too.
Spirited Away wasn't up against just any flavor-of-the-year Disney flick. The fact that Disney lost out to an import in the category carries extra weight.
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I, for one, am extremely pleased that the crap Disney released was swept aside and that the best movie actually won. My faith in the academy is still not above the highly skeptical mark, but this is news VERY well taken in this household.
(moderator: If you like Disney's crap, that's fine, come post about how you disagree with me. Don't, however, mark this post as a troll. A troll is not a post you disagree with.)
Supposedly, someone at Disney claimed that they had already set aside a much larger advertising budget similar to that Lilo and Stitch got for a S.A. rerelease if it won the Oscars. Traditionally, films that win the Oscar take on new legs and get wider release after that: for instance, Life is Beautiful. The details are somewhere in the Nausicaa.net archives; I lack the time to dig them up now.
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Really? Wow - I'm surprised they added anything, but I'm glad they did - that was freaking hilarious. I wonder what else they added, and if any of that was from Phil himself?
Forgetting the fact that straightening up Afghanistan is a different task from straightening up Iraq, can I just ask when was the last time the U.S. Government had captives shot in the head, filmed by Al Jezeera, and broadcast the film without warning to families and loved ones?
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What awards did Kangaroo Jack win?? I mean he took the money and isn't giving it back. Did he take an oscar as well???
It's about time." Isn't this the second year of that particular category? The impressive thing isn't that it took so long it's that it happened so fast. To have a japanese film win the second time the animation award was given is quite an accomplishment. At least it didn't end up being a tug of war between Disney and Dreamworks. Adds a lot of legitimacy to the award.
ACTOR IN A LEADING ROLE: Adrien Brody THE PIANIST
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ACTRESS IN A LEADING ROLE: Nicole Kidman THE HOURS
ACTRESS IN A SUPPORTING ROLE: Catherine Zeta-Jones CHICAGO
ANIMATED FEATURE FILM: SPIRITED AWAY Hayao Miyazaki
ART DIRECTION: CHICAGO John Myhre (Art Direction); Gordon Sim (Set Decoration)
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COSTUME DESIGN: CHICAGO Colleen Atwood
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I don't mean to offend anyone's tastes but I really didn't see the big deal with Spirited Away; nor did the two anime fans I saw it in the theater with (some new but empty place near White Plains...). The voice acting was passable and it was a nice little fantasy setting and all but the pacing seemed horribly off. This was one of the few movies I've seen in recent times where I actually checked my watch hoping there wouldn't be much more to go.
/.ers are warned about, or those that only ever enjoy the really esoteric and sort of isolationist-intellectual-film-nut anime. Anyhow, is there anyone else here that didn't really like it so much?
First of all, the main character seemed to be a whiny little girl for far too long, and seemed fairly well-adapted to being enslaved as a bath wench. The main goal she had was to free her parents, but she doesn't actually embark on doing so until at least 2/3 of the way through the film. The bulk of the movie seemed to be clever and well-directed bits that didn't really relate to each other or the main storyline enough to warrant their length or involvement.
Admittedly, I'm usually more drawn to the more action-oriented but intelligent anime (Bebop, NGE, etc) or goofy stuff (FLCL, Excel Saga, w00t!), but I dig the brainy bits of Eva too, as well as Lain, Akira, and even Mononoke, although I hated the way that ended. Am I still just too Western? The only people I know that really enjoyed Spirited Away were either the die-hard anime fans that
Too tired to preview, the die is cast.
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I'm not racist. There are sand-monkeys of all races, creeds, and nationalities. Anybody who thinks it's okay to strap on a semtex vest and get on a public bus, or who thinks blowing up a pizza parlor is a keen idea, or who thinks a truck filled with homemade explosives is a valid form of civil protest, or who thinks rolling a hand grenade into a ten is a fine idea is a fucking sand-monkey. These "people" should be shot on sight, or preferably blasted to atoms with a bomb delivered from air conditioned comfort at extremely high altitude. The sooner we get the sand-monkey gene out of the gene pool, the better for everybody.
You must have meant by "sand-monkeys" I mean Arabs. You jumped to that conclusion, not I. Who's the racist here?
... damn I hated that movie. I never understood what people thought was so good in this movie. I have watched a lot of anime, some serious, some funny, some violent, some that make you think, and Spirited Away was the worst anime I saw ever. I can't see what people find in this movie. For the people who say this is an mature story, this movie was so cheesy, especially towards the end that it made me want to leave the theater only after 30 minutes. There is no story, only a serie of weird events occuring one after the other. At least, that's what I think. You are free to think differently.
Did they ever get around to releasing a subbed version of Mononoke Hime? Those stingy bastards.
And the Oscar for the best acceptance speech goes to Michael Moore and Michael Donovan:
Whoa. On behalf of our producers Kathleen Glynn and Michael Donovan from Canada, I'd like to thank the Academy for this. I have invited my fellow documentary nominees on the stage with us, and we would like to -- they're here in solidarity with me because we like nonfiction. We like nonfiction and we live in fictitious times. We live in the time where we have fictitious election results that elects a fictitious president. We live in a time where we have a man sending us to war for fictitious reasons. Whether it's the fictition of duct tape or fictition of orange alerts we are against this war, Mr. Bush. Shame on you, Mr. Bush, shame on you. And any time you got the Pope and the Dixie Chicks against you, your time is up. Thank you very much.
While I used to enjoy the Oscars, I think they are quickly losing their relevance. Ever since Titanic won all sorts of awards back in 1997 it's been more or less evident that the Oscars are little more than a popularity contest. If this ceremony were held two months ago, which movie would have walked away with the awards? My Big Fat Greek Wedding. Here we have another underdog, Chicago, which Miramax sent out on limited release to generate lots of positive buzz, and has since carefully expanded the number of locations in which it is playing. Chicago gets fabulous word of mouth and ends up walking away with Best Picture. Fine, so lots of the voters like this movie and musicals are making a comeback. But best costume design? Best editing? The movie may be good, but certainly it doesn't deserve these. Of the hundreds of movies released last year, and of the few dozen which were truly good, does one movie deserve to win these coveted awards just because it's popular right now?
When movies start picking up several oscars, it's just a sign of that movie's popularity at the moment. The voters get all carried away with one movie and it ends up sweeping the whole show. Ridiculous.
Ok, perhaps I'm just jaded because of the movies that *didn't* win, like Two Towers for Best Editing or Episode II for Best Costume, Sound, Editing, or something. But I agree, (in order to keep this post on-topic), Spirited Away was definitely the best animated feature of the year. But what about the rest? Treasure Island, anyone?
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"For the people who used to be 10 years old, and the people who are going to be 10 years old." --Hayao Miyazaki
Miyazaki wrote and directed this film for the 10 year old daughter of a friend, and I can't imagine a more wonderful, inspiring and loving gift has ever been given.
Spirited Away builds from all of his past work and eclipses them all. Every part of this film has been very carefully constructed with technical brilliance and subtle meaning. Besides the compelling story, characters and setting, Miyazaki has created one of the most inspirational films of all time. This film is an allegorical guide book of the best human qualities and a primer for all artists. Most likely it is composed of many personal battles that Miyazaki has ultimately triumphed over. Watching the film gives an insight to the mind of one of the best living artists in the world.
My only warning is that because of the allegorical nature of the film, some of the transitions and characters seem out of place. It is only with greater understanding of the messages that are being delivered that the film becomes cohesive. The film can be enjoyed on any level, but with deeper understanding of the themes it has much more impact.
Miyazaki has created a film that will mesmerize young children and the lessons it provides will source of strength throughout their life. In this way, Spirited Away is Miyazaki's most perfected fable.
I took my 65 year old mother and my 4 year old nephew to see Spirited away, and though some parts were a little scary for my nephew, we all loved this movie. Since then I've loaned my mother several other Studio Ghibli movies so she can show them to her grandchildren when they visit. They're a whole lot better than the 90 minute long commercials that Disney craps out every year.
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Why do you have a problem with those two things belonging to one person?
Umm...
Anime nerds vindicated.
Fifty year old man jammed into Sailor Moon costume: "I am redeemed."
Not true in Chicago! It played at arguably the best theater in town, the McClurg Court - DTS, THX, DLP. The english dub was on the big screen downstairs, while the subtitled Japanese version was in one of the smaller theaters upstairs. It got a fair shake in Chicago at least.
I saw it and enjoed it greatly, even though I cannot abide most anime (see the topic icon for a perfect example of what I find annoying about the style). "Spirited Away" suffered from poor box office, not on it's own merits, but because most moviegoers have seen other anime, and thought "oh, there's that anime film" and rejected it out of hand.
P.S. What is the name of the annoying blue-haired character/anime topic icon? Just so I can avoid it. "Bambi eyes" to the max.
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Was Myazaki's best.
True genius is grasping a situation like a peice of fruit, and peircing it just right so that it drains dry.
Michael Moore had his worthless fat ass booed off stage.
Spoilers for Kiki's Delivery Service. You Have Been Warned.
They made one drastic change: at the end, you hear Gigi's voice (Phil Hartman) saying "Kiki! Kiki!" And I think he even says "Can you hear me?"
This is a major change because it makes it clear that Kiki is once again able to understand Gigi. That was not at all in the original.
Why did Kiki ever become unable to understand Gigi? I researched this on the Web after I saw Kiki's Delivery Service for the first time, and what I found in an FAQ file was that Miyazaki added this plot point--it was not in the book he based the movie on. Miyazaki's idea was that Kiki could talk to Gigi because they were very close to each other, and now that they were growing apart (he, in his interest in the lady kitty; she, in her problems fitting in with her new life) they were no longer close enough to talk. She got her confidence back, and could fly again, but she couldn't ever be that close to Gigi again... but she could be that close to the black kitten, so she had a new close friend. Doors close in life, but new ones open too.
Miyazaki is a god, and I'm not, but this is the one place where I would overrule him if I could. I think his whole spin on the talking Gigi thing is just strange. So I actually kind of like the idea that once she got her confidence back, she could hear Gigi again. But it is a change, and a big one.
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...just so you know that yes, they really are trying to eliminate free speech.
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It's too bad that I cannot find any *serious* comments about Spirited Away even here at Slashdot. It's not a simple animation film for children. Nor is it a fun movie for mature adults either.
The main point of the movie is how Western civilization *devastated* the Japanese people, especially in the form of capitalism. One funny (and tragic) reality addressed by the director is that Japanese are totally ignorant of the fact that they have lost their Japanese identity adopting capitalism and that the western people enslaved (I hate to use this word) Japanese people under the hierarchical structure of capitalism.
Notice that this film is overpainted with Japanese cultural artifacts everywhere. However, only Yubaba shows characteristics typical in the Western people. A big nose, flurry dress, and her big room with carpet and bonfire, to name a few. Her room is located on the very *top* of the building, dominating all other Japanese workers.
Haku symbolizes Japanese people who strived to learn the power from the Western civilization. He wanted to learn the *magic* from Yubaba, but what he actually experienced was that he had to lose his own name in order to do that. How Yubaba enslaved Haku? Haku himself had to *sign a contract* which forced him to *lose* his name.
So, what happened? The japanese lost their souls. The poor people who lost their identities do not have any virtues in their life other than to get more gold to be rich. The remaining value created from their priceless labor is *stored* as a form of gems in Yubaba's safe.
Why does Yubaba have a twin sister? It symbolizes director's view that the Western culture became a mutant from its origin. The _good_ western culture is the other twin Yubaba. Notice that Yubaba's sister also lives in a totally western environment. A small cottage, hand-cooked cake, tea, and so on. She, the original tradition of the western culture, is a person with bright rationaility.
Then what must Japanese do in order to destroy this terrible structure created by the evil Yubaba? Do they have to organize a revolution? Do they have to kill Yubaba?
Miyazaki Hayao's message is superior to that. Chihiro succeeds in finding and sympathizing with the common values appreciated both by Japanese people and Yubaba's sister. She symbolizes the young, future Japanese generations. From the sympathy and understanding of the *rational* Yubaba's twin sister, she proceeds on to the next stage of mutual understandings. She wakes up Haku, and he realizes his Japanese identity. After Chihiro came back to Yubaba, Yubaba is no longer her boss. She calls her name as "Oba-tsang", not as "Yubaba-sama", which can be translated into "grandmother" and "my boss Yubaba". She peacefully disarms Yubaba with her Japanese identity.
Overall, "Spirited Away" should be a movie that many Western people will get angry with (or be ashamed with); however, the great point of this movie is that it shows a way to solve this conflict peacefully, especially with the language of *rationality*, a concept which Western people are so accustomed to. It suggests a way that leads to the mutual understandings and the world peace. Here lies the greateness of this movie.
So, please, take this animation seriously. Although Yubaba's sister totally became friends with Chihiro, Yubaba refused to understand Chihiro to the end of the movie. The reason Yubaba released Chihiro and her parents is only because her contract with Yubaba became void. She is still ignorant of the terrible mistakes she inflicted on the Japanese people. I do not like to see Western people watching this movie continue to repeat this foolish mistake of Yubaba's in real world. Just by trying to remember Yubaba's twin sister, you will be able to sympathize _at least_ with the japanese people.
Buy the R1 DVD. It has a Japanese dialogue track with English subtitles.
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On the other hand, I totally loved Princess Mononoke. I saw Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind a little while ago and it did blow me away.
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Uh... cinematography is usually setting up lighting on a set and choosing cameras and lenses and film and how to use those tools to render a scene with actors onto a photographic negative. In an animated film like Spirited Away, none of that needs to be done. The "camera angles" are chosen by the director when they do the storyboards. Individual frames are drawn by hand and scanned and sometimes composited with CG or edited on a computer. The ultimate output is made to print film that gets run through a projector at your theater. So there is film involved... but only at the final step.
My other first post is car post.
But, I was at the *cough* Tokyo International Anime Festival on Friday
Just thought I'd rub it in for all you anime whacko^freaks
First of all, we should kill all those fucking niggers.
BTW, by "niggers" I meant "racist assholes who discriminate against ethnic groups of which they have no understanding".
In other words, YOU, fucker.
> P.S. What is the name of the annoying
> blue-haired character/anime topic icon? Just
> so I can avoid it. "Bambi eyes" to the max.
Sasami from the anime Tenchi Muyo.
I found it quite simple to sum up the moral of this story: Any evil can be conquered with love, courage and good manners.
The good manners are the most important part.
I hardly wait in line for movies, I hate queues, print queues, british queues, pool cues, all queues are bad. I waited in line to see this movie, and to see Princess Mononoke, if I had been old enough to appreicate Warriors of the Wind (aka Kaze no tani no Naushika (1984)) and we had been enlightened enough to play it in an american theatre, I'm sure I would have waited in line for this movie as well.
This film has so much charm and grace. I can only hope now, just maybe, a subtitled version will be show in Austin.
It has been a long time since I saw a subtitled anime on the big screen.
It is important to mention that, whilst Ghibli accepted the award, nobody came to the ceremony to collect their Oscar.
Miyazaki is a well documented Marxist (look at Mirai Shounen Conan and the book it is based upon, The Incredible Tide, for proof), so I doubt he would attend an awards ceremony at a heart of American capitalism. Not to mention that he is hugely anti-war anyway.
Whilst he very much deserves the award, there are other more poltical agendas at work here.
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What is all this in aid of, again?
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God bless America.
Do you work for Microsoft? I figure that you might be doing that by trying to make Linux unusable on the desktop with your ugly wallpapers. More like toilet papers.
I'm trying to figure out if it is swirls of vomit or swirls of excrement. Do you make them by hanging your rear over the edge of the roof, and aim for the paper on the ground? And then use photoshop to make 20 color variations of it so you can fill up your website?
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Shouldn't that be:
PROPAGANDA Desktop Excrement Graphics?
The subtitles on the Region 1 release of Spirited Away, Castle in the Sky, and Kiki's Delivery Service will be like the Princess Mononoke R1 release--a near-literal translation of the original Japanese voice track. Which I found very good because I actually enjoyed Princess Mononoke in subtitled form better. :-)
...for the chance to experience what it's like to look at the world through a child's eyes. A short plot outline isn't going to express the moments of sheer wonderment and exhilaration that this film inspires. After seeing this movie, I felt young .
...finally, to be able to realize the sad shape American animation and the big industries who market anime are in. Pixar is the lone exception- Disney, Toonami, and all the networks showing Saturday morning cartoons are so constricted by the notion that "Animation is for children" that they will NEVER be able to produce something as original as Spirited Away, or even have the nerve to show many beloved series in their original form. Thank the gods that the Japanese are willing to take chances, because I doubt American studios would have the backbone to produce films like Jin-roh, Spirited Away, or End of Evangelion.
Anyhow, kudos to the Academy members who voted for Spirited Away! The award was well-deserved.
"Tabemono, tabemono, arimasu ka? Nai desu ka? Arimasu ka?" - Ed
He is not a Marxist.
Thats true he is a anti-war person.
He doesn't like "American policy == Japanese one".
Right wing Capitarism & US flattery diplomacy and safety.(kind of realistic choice)
Left wing Capitarism & Original diplomacy and safety.(kind of dreamers John lenon said)
Although he always think of this matter,
but he couldn't get answer yet.
His artworks try to stop war or disaster,
but it always happens.
in the end, charactors save something but he suggests will be repeated again.
Same here is Atlanta. Usually the local theaters on the north side don't pick up too many foreign films, but they had Spirited Away.
Wow! And they were able to accomplish all that without tentacles juking young school girl clad virgin types. Impressive!
I know I will probably get flamed for this, but let's be honest. "Spirited Away" is not Miyazaki's best. In fact, I'm sorry, story, animation, soundtrack, characters, and simply EVERYTHING was simply not up to par considering his older works, like Nausicaa and Laputa. Look, I think it's great that Miyazaki finally got the recognition he deserves. But that is just it-- I honestly think that Miyazaki is only being awarded because of his body of work, and largely because he has been ignored by the Hollywood mafia for two decades already. Furthermore, Spirited Away was up against some extremely weak competition. I mean, "Ice Age", "Treasure Planet"? I've seen more riveting animation in crapcan 70's Hanna Barbera saturday morning cartoons. Reality check: I'm sorry, but if Spirited Away went up against "Shrek", it would have been toast. That said, I'm glad that Anime has it's foot in the door now. I guess Disney can stop making these horrible musical cartoons now, and Hollywood will start taking more Anime directors, like Oshii, far more seriously. But the sad reality is, this reeked of the typical Academy behavior of awarding a person based on a body of work rather than a truly great film.
Her name is Masaki Sasami Jurai, or just Sasami, from the Tenchi Muyo series, OVAs and movies. There were also OVAs and a TV serial released in which her character was named Pretty Sammy.
You can avoid Sasami here and here for starters.
I have been thinking about avoiding these myself.
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My favorite comedic book of all time has to be Neil Gaiman and Terry Prachett's joint work Good Omens. Terry's longwindedness gets a little tiresome at times, but it's definitely a great book if you want to get an immediate appreciation of Gaiman. Make it your first title. :)
I disagree totally. The target audience for this film is kids. Kid's don't care if it's in Anime style. Just look at moring and afternoon kids programming on TV. It's dubbed japanese imports. All Disney had to do was give the movie the same treatment as any of their other films. That say "Hey new Disney Film out, Ebert and Reoper give it two thumbs up, now hand the mouse the cash and no one gets hurt."
That didn't happen. You had a fairly limited release. Not thousands of screens like most Disney films, but hundreds of screens. Some cities were targeted and got more. Most cities got little to nothing.
Where is the DTS ES track on the american release? Quick answer... nowhere! They even have the nerver to include a 1.33:1 version, but no proper sound.
Real nice, I can choose from bad sound or overly red tinted picture (Japanese R2 release).
Really makes you feel sad, considering what an incredible movie it is.
It's about time? That a completely undeserving movie was honored by the Academy? I got news for you, buddy, it happens all the time.
Pretty and vapid, like a dream. Just don't try to read too much into those random synaptic firings, lest they haunt you.
The best example I recall about the translating vs interpreting that Gaiman did is a scene where Ashitaka and the monk/cleric is having soup. The monk complains about it and the literal japanese is "this soup tastes like watery', which Gaiman changed to "This soup tastes like donkey piss" or something like that, and that carries the weight of the insult better. The pt being, you could have had the dub version say that the soup was watery, but it would've sounded like the soup was just weak. The line in japanese apparently implies something about class and wealth as well-- its not that you made watery soup, its that you can't afford to add anything to your water.
You just heard me, bitch. I don't discriminate against ethnic groups. I discriminate against terrorist groups. Terrorists are sand-monkeys, and I'm starting to think you are too. Fuck you.
And don't ever use the "n-word" in my presence again.
SO, they're *finally* going to release Laputa? Thank goodness, I don't know how many years Miyazaki fans have been wating for this to happen. Now, if only they'd release Nausicaa (no, that abomination, "Warriors of the Wind," doesn't count).
This sig wasn't worth reading, was it.
It really spoke to my 1/16 Choctau heritage, all that nobleness and freedom and crap.
Lets face it. "Spirited Away" was just in a whole nother catergory then the rest of the drivel. I think it could have been included for Best Picture, had the acadamy not been so obsesed with dancing girls this year. Not that dancing girls are such a bad thing :) Viva la Frankoswski!
Forgot to add that the Simpsons and South Park are two of the best American cartoons on TV today.
"Tabemono, tabemono, arimasu ka? Nai desu ka? Arimasu ka?" - Ed
Finally. A quality film wins Best Animated. Kudos to Miyazaki and the whole crew at Studio Ghilbi for producing yet another masterwork, and finally getting the recognition they deserve here in the States. And for once, my hat's off to the Academy for finally recognizing Anime of any kind in a major catagory. All non-believers bow before the greatness that is Japanese Animated Film.
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Jesus, some of the people that get moderator status on here are so stupid that it's amazing that they can operate the big red button to turn on their computer.
I got a laugh out of Moore.. guy is kind of tactless but very brave I think.
But Brody.. wow. A summary for those who missed it:
Brody gets up on stage, looking completely floored. He says he didn't write a speech because whenever he did for any award in the past, he didn't win. He goes on for a while, flustered as hell, then he mentions they're already flashing the "Time's up" at him, but he's just getting started on his thank yous, to his parents, to the filmmakers, etc.
Now he's WAY over max time, and they cut into his speech with the ceremony music, you know, the "OK, we're done being polite and subtle, get OFF THE STAGE NOW" music, and this is where things got REALLY interesting. He looks up and says, "Just a second. Just one more second" The music continues, uncaring. But Brody's determined, he knows he can do no wrong in this particular instant of time and space. "I mean it. Turn that stuff OFF!" he says.. and the music actually STOPS. I was cheering. Lopsided grin, "I've just got one shot at this."
Then, in a very emotional voice on the edge of breaking, he talks about how making The Pianist made him aware of the horrors of war, and how, whatever you believe in, God or Allah or anyone, he hopes for everyone to get home safe, and for a quick end to the conflict.
He got a deafening, standing ovation, and for the next 10 minutes or so, the Oscars were... different. The power of his words had tremendously affected everyone. It was evident that Dustin Hoffman, who was presenting a clip of The Pianist for Best Picture immediately after Brody, was having some trouble continuing his speech.
Bravo Brody. Guy deserved a second Oscar on the spot.
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Here's one interview with Miyazaki where he describes "Spirited Away" much more innocently than all this rot.
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Here's another:
http://www.midnighteye.com/interviews/hayao_miy
Like much of Miyazaki's work, it deals with innocence and nostalgia.
I can't remember where, but I remember once reading an interview with Miyazaki where he said that people like to read too much into his movies...
I love that sort of thing. There's a station in San Francisco that shows a lot of Asian movies and shows. Sometimes they have English subs, a lot of which are obviously done by somebody who only knows the language from studying it in secondary school. I actually like these translations better than the more professional jobs. How else are you going to discover cultural tidbits, such as the fact that Japanese refer to all big American cars as "Cadillacs" regardless of make?
Anime is not an art form. "Anime" is just the English word for a Japanese animation. The art form here is animation; anime is at most a particular style within this art form.
Miyazaki hasn't been a Marxist since the '80s. Maybe even earlier.
I'm fairly certain that Moore is aware that there is a war being fought. The fiction he was referring to was the endless stream of lies which Bush and his gang of criminals used to plunge the U.S. into war. This is what Moore is upset over. This does not make him anti-American. This makes him anti-psychotic/evil politician.
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You need to do some more reading, my friend. I know it's a VERY challenging task to see through the bullshit when you're within U.S. borders, where thought is so tightly controled, but trust me, you really don't have a clue how bad it is until you leave the U.S. umbrella of cultural manipulation.
It's a tribute to the skill of U.S. propaganda engineers that so many people in the audience booed Moore. I've been looking for a way to measure just how many people had really been duped. I didn't realize it was so many!
-Fantastic Lad
My definition of Anime. .
It seems evident to me that many Japanese animators are lugging around a LOT of bagage acquired during their educational years, and live in a culture which does not allow the intellectual freedom needed to deal with these issues, and so it leaks out in other ways. This, of course, isn't the only force driving Anime. After all, there is a good deal of entertaining story telling going on, but those deep issues certainly stand out again and again. There is an endless dream-fever feeling in much anime where this stuff is fighting to be sorted out, driven largely, I suspect, by the subconscious.
For me, that describes about 95% of all the anime I've seen. Miyazaki and a few others fall into the remaining 5%, where the creators are operating with much more dexterity from their conscious selves. Miyazaki knows what he's doing and why he's doing it. He's not another kid still dealing with highschool trauma, sex and self-confidence issues.
Spirited Away, if you read Miyazaki's comments on his film, was partly an attempt to show a young girl in a light which is not tainted by the commercialism, sexualism, and other weird obsessions the Japanese experience within the pressure cooker of their society. Miyazaki wanted to show a girl who, through her own human wits and skills as a person, was able to find her way to personal strength and growth. As he put it. .
". . . Chihiro's being strong enough not to be eaten up is just what makes her a heroine. She is a heroine not because she is beautiful or because she possesses a unique mind. This is the key characteristic of this work, and therefore it is a good story for 10-year-old girls."
Spirited Away also worked on numerous other levels; a film like this can quietly prepare people for the kinds of forces in the spirit world which continue to become more and more prevailant as we progress through these end of times and towards the beginning of the new. There were a lot of messages in this film which spoke directly to the subconscious.
-Fantastic Lad
There's something seriously wrong with your mommy and daddy because the coathanger method is supposed to be foolproof..
In a sense, you're right, though. Spirited Away is one of the best movies I've ever seen in any category. Not something you can compete with. I haven't seen Chicago yet, but I think it might not have won if Spirited Away weren't in the Kiddie Movie ghetto.
Actually, I've thought of submitting bowie's name for the pro-choice poster child.
logout is explaining what the movie is talking about, wheter it is right or not.