...yes, it would be at least partially your fault for not fixing your lock when you knew about it. Contributory negligence, something like that, at least in a *practical* sense, although not in a strictly legal sense. The real world has badguys,always has, always will, and to just wish them away is sorta silly, because it just isn't going to happen, ever.
In a nutshell this is the US economy and how our business leaders and politicians think. It is funny to the extreme, except for the sucky parts which are ALL of them.
Microsoft as an official company is SO FAR OUT TO LUNCH they need the hubble telescope to see reality.
I'd like to say I wish them well, but I don't. I hope they edselize, the sooner the better. If any corporation ever needed to just go far far away, they are the one. Biggest planetary drag on innovation and the economy out there, taken as a gestalt. Why worry about outsourcing or chinese nukes or "terrorists" when your own merkun companies like microsoft and the entertainment monopolies and their bribed off politicians can do an outstanding job of screwing you over all by themselves?
I honestly think MS marketing has lost it, absolutely no ideas any more other than new ways to be crooks. And lame crooks to boot. I keep waiting for *anything* to come from them that could be classified as good, and just plain ain't seeing it. Ya ya ya they'll keep making money for awhile, but eventually even the dullest of the dull realises they are being serial conned.
The main reason that journalism is "flawed" is because in the MSM or Main Stream News, either print or broadcast, the main focus is on making money. It's a "business" first. You will have to somehow make it be "news" first to get more accuracy and objectivity in reporting.
And then it could segue into something roughly analagous to the debates over for-sale closed source software and collaborative information-sharing free software. Could a news reading public be persuaded to actually become critical reporters and "share" news freely? Could it replace the expensive and established profit motive design of "news" as we know it today?
Some might say blogging is at least an attempt in that direction.
...the parent is correct, millions still use OTA analog TV with rabbit ears or external antennas in the US. It's a huge number still, estimates are 13 million to 22 million households down in this url.
I understand where you are coming from, so here's an answer. It's not the *only* answer but it's an answer. You're one dude, so am I. I can do what one dude can do. I can't change the entire world, tra la la make it better. I *can* change my personal immediate environment for the better, the much better. Ya, I got candles and oil lamps, but a nice 12 volt light or radio or tv is just so much better when the mains are borked, and it's cheaper than drycell batts. I can't just say POOF SHAZZAM and get everyone to eat less crappy food with no poisons on it, but I can grow extra nice organic stuff like that in our gardens and get it to friends and the local supermarket and we get to eat on it year round. cool beans.
And stuff like that there. One dude, one dudes actions. Can't change the whirrled but you can change your little piece of the whirrled. Immediate "pay back". Multiply by every "one dude" out there now you are talking, and with more than words "talking". Actions are where it's at.
As to prius, got no use for a tiny sedan really, although girlfriend has one (high MPG auto), I am a truck or tractor kinda dude, stuff to work with. Could really care less if I go to town once a week or three times a year or something. I only go when I absolutely *have* to go. The thing with the hybrids or electrics is, there's a really nasty hidden cost with constant burning ICE engine style vehicles and that's inside huge cities, the pollution gets trapped there, it "islands", and it makes hoo-manns sick, really sick. Kids n astham is outta site in the big cities for instance. They need to drop it considerably, so there's a start. As to batts, they are pretty recyclable now, even the acid solution, I don't see that as a major problem. And my deep storage cells with battery desulphators are 8 years old now, still going strong. Those semi new gadgets really do work, greatly extend the life of flooded lead acid batts. And there's several new batt techs out there now coming on strong, just needs more interest, and if it's geeks modding priuses, so be it, that's how we get real practical innovation, one dude changing his local-to-him whatever for the better. That's what we as geeks *do*.
he was the guy who threw the rocks. the other cops ignored him and started beating on the guys around him. Fairly suspicious so I followed. He goes directly to a marked car and talks to an older gray haired cop, so I will assume the older cop had some rank over the early 20's younger undercover cop. After that some friends and I, free lance journalists, tasked ourselves with "outing" similar perps at demos. turned out this was common. We wound up IDing several and got their photos published in the "alternative" press of the day, caused a *serious stink* way (way) back when. Heh. Great times.
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Hmm, some I can talk about and some I can't. If it comes up in a thread and it's something I can talk about I would chime in (like I just did). If it's something I can only vaguely allude to, that will have to be it, lot of contacts I have are still in either sensitive situations or are trying to hang on to dot gov pensions and what they told me is priveleged, so I have to go by that. That's just how that works. Want a generic freebie, here ya go, blood relative of mine, deceased now, career spook, serious cold war years. Told me before he went about how they used to try and induce tropical storms to turn into hurricanes to hit cuba (not effective but they really tried via massive cloud seeding), and how they tried to bork their crops there with plant diseases(more effective, tobacco mosaic to be precise is one I remember him mentioning).
dunno if that counts or not, but I sure believed him, he had zero reason to tell me and a lot of reasons not to. I knew about the cuban missile crisis two weeks before it hit the public news, and that sure turned out true, all from him dropping a dime from a payphone.
Glad you went and researched though, most folks won't bother looking, appreciate the give and take.
My default after all these years is sad to say "no trust" and I freely admit it. Been that way since the day jack ruby offed oswald and I go NO WAY! someone just offed the prime witness! I mean, about as obvious as you can get. Since then made it a little hobby to look for the politically weird, the coincidental, the just "off". Easy enough to find. Am I wrong sometimes? Sure, but most of the time based on reflection over decades now I am usually proven correct.
foot soldiers, on the street perps? london bombers? dime a dozen, those guys ain't the important guys, higher than that is where it's at. who profits, who has motive and opportunity? Where's the boatloads of cash and power at? I start from there and work backwards. Are there serious nutcase jihadists? You betcha! no probs, they exist. Are there serious power glomming western biz guys in dark suits who would do *anything* for a buck or pound or another shred of power? You betcha! Both are true statements. I have to work from that, because it's real. It is not one _or_ the other. Both.
I smell a rat with the london case, even beyond the timing of the visor wargames scenario, that's just frosting. Just too cute. Downing street memos heating up things, karl rove getting nailed in the press, iraq appearing more and more to be out of control (it is really), etc, etc, g8 conference-bingo! Another attack. Always seems like something like that happens just when things are getting interesting for the public PTB. Wonder why that is? heh, double heh
It smells bad to me, smells like so many other incidents.
Just don't like coincidences and surface level treatments. Been enough yellow caking BS to go around to show this latest terror business is just that, a very very lucrative *business*, both for cash and for power aggregation.
The company's name is visor, it was on both the bbc audio and on ITV. You can google it up yourself, the clips are spreading all over the net.
The us government was running "hijacked planes smashing into buildings" wargames previous to and on the day of 9-11, you can google that up too. Of course their spokesmodels claimed they had "no idea" until this evidence leaked out. There's also a few lawsuits running now where fbi agents were told to sit down and shutup over their 'terror" investigations once they started getting closer to white guys in suits. They thought that was *strange* so now these whistleblower suits are on. You can google that up as well. I am not your private research source, you can run a keyboard same as anyone may who is on the net. Try "9-11, government prior knowledge" as some search wordsto get started.
Sorry, just been doing this stuff for going on 40 years now and change. I just have talked to too many insiders who have clued me in to how things work, compared to what they want the public to believe. For example (this is low level but appropriate, just an example),something I have seen myself real time, caught an "undercover" dressed in "civvies" cop agent provocateur stoning uniformed cops at a demo in order to give them an excuse to attack a crowd of peaceful protesters. he was allowed to walk away from the event, funny they didn't go after him, just the other people. i followed him back for blocks until he checked in with his "superior" in a car. I know two other cops who are now retired who told me they were ordered to do similar, or to look the other way. Stuff like this is common, and it follows the heglian dialectic.
Our "leaders" are by and large "not nice" people, and the people who give them orders are even worse than that. You can continue to blindly accept what they tell you, but for myself and now millions of other people, we still will be questioning. As ronnie used to say, you can trust, but first you must verify. If it constantly fails the verification test, eventually you just default to "no trust". simple as that for me. Once or twice, sure, random happenings, stuff happens, I can understand that, coincidences,etc, but dozens of times, or hundreds, including whoppers, nope, they have become just as untrustworthy as any other criminal gang.
umm, I am a farm worker, and don't make that much money, very low in fact. I would imagine as slashdot posters go I am outside a significant amount, most likely more than you.. I also live where the grid power goes out frequently, twice in the past week for example, and having storage batteries is a good thing. I can whip on the 12 volt TV to see the weather map, run a laptop to get on the net (if the phonelines stay up and aren't noisy)if I want, run a reading light, the shortwave,etc.
My solar is *very* practical and even though it is a low amount, it's guaranteed effective,it is completely paid off, no one sends me a bill for it now, and because I can store it up, I have several days worth of electricity for at least some minimum useages.
And so no, I will not "piss off". You can stuff it though, girly man luddite troll.
The bbc ran the interview. Data. That's evidence so far. I have also just learned that certain rail "tube" stations might have been shutdown *before* the bomb blasts in london, with heavy police and EMT presence at the entry ways. Was it part of the drill reported on BBC audio, my original reference? Can't say yet. Certainly could be though.
In the US the government was running "drills" about airliners crashing into buildings, yet later they denied at the commission investigation that they had any idea that something like that could happen. So which was it again? How is it that up to 9-11, all previous incidents of major planes off course had jet fighters on them within minutes, but on 9-11 none of that happened? Coincidence? really? You believe that hogwash?
You may believe in political coincidences,in regards such high stakes endeavors as changing the political course of entire nations,not to mention trillions in potential profits, but I sure don't, not when they keep happening over and over again and *always* in favor of increasing big brother actions.
And al queda, what exactly is this al queda thing, where did it come from? Oh ya, it means the "base" or database of cia contracted muslim jihadists who were organized, trained and supplied to be assymetrical warfare fighters. Isn't that interesting.
The US and the UK have a very long past verified history of supporting coups, counter coups, revolutions, take overs, support for tin pot dictators and support FROM the highest levels of blood profits international "commerce". That is who really calls the shots, those that profit the most from it. those are the real "leaders" in the western world, not these spokesmodel doofuses like bush and blair, they are puppets, told what to do.. In asia, africa and south america and eastern europe they have been stage managing events for years, generations really. So why are people surprised when they move into what geographical areas are left for this sort of action? Do people in the US and the UK really think they have some magical cosmic deal where THEY can't be taken over and run by the same behind the scenes forces? Says who?
the evidence is all around you, if you choose to look and can extrapolatte a little from history and present day events.
I mean really,just this morning I am reading, the bus that got bombed, coincidently THOSE cameras installed on the bus were *turned off*. uh huh, another coincidence. uh huh sure it is.
You want revisionism, look to your "superiors" who claim one thing then later on it turns out to be false. Downing street memos perhaps? PNAC docs about taking over IRAQ from before 9-11?
You just go right ahead and keep believing the paid off crooked governments tin foil hat conspiracy theories, eventually they get proven out. It may take decades, like with the *completely* phony "tonkin gulf attacks" that were the major reason the US went to war in nam. That took more than 30 years for them to finally admit it was pure fantasy.
The same is happening now with the phony war on terror and these stage managed events. it's busting wide open in italy right now, turns out a lot of "terrorist" attacks attributed to one faction were actually carried out by fascist factions connected to the government. took years, but it's coming out now. many arrests. Check your own news sources, do your own looking up.
Same deal in the US and UK, just sit back and enjoy the show as the lying murderous rats keep scrambling. They are desparate now.
killing random innocents is distasteful. Claiming al queda did it immediately based on one release at a controlled known about western website is distasteful. Ignoring the *plethora* of evidence that 9-11 was an inside job, and that tons of "al queda" have a long and notorius background as being contract employees or assets of western intel services is distasteful. Ignoring that these various wars were long planned in advance, then lied about repeatedly by the authorities, and that now the evidence is starting to leak more and more is distasteful. Ignoring the fact that your so called "leaders" (or "superiors" if you have chose that life path) are chronic serial liars is distasteful. Realising that false flag efforts are a common tactic in assymetrical warfare (or internal coups, there I said it out loud) is distasteful, but necessary. Ignoring uncomfortable evidence is distasteful. Watching it happen yet again is distasteful.
And watching western civilization slide down the tubes to outright fascism based on heglian dialectic transnational fascist corporate blood profits at any cost "intel" actions run by a coterie of elite globalist bastards is quite distasteful.
Merely pointing it out might make people uncomfortable (believe me I am not comfortable with it, none whatsoever, zero), but it needs to be done.
History, learn from it or re-live it, only two choices you have.
You are aware a security company was conducting "exercises" on 7-7 in London simultaneously with the attacks? About bombs going off in the subway and on busses? At the *exact* same time the *exact* attack occurred in *exactly* the manner in which it happened? Reported on BBC audio, poofed away now.
This isn't ringing alarm bells for you over this terrorist attack? You really believe in coincidences of this magnitude? You just blindly accept big brothers government instantaneouly whenever they decide to tell you something?
Same thing happened in the US ith 9-11.
It's morning, enjoy some coffee, smell the aroma, breathe deep and *wake up*. Shake the cobwebs out.
...alternative energy scheme that is a complete repolacement for petroeum. but taken in the aggregate -solar,wind, methane, biodiesel, ethanol, hydrogen from coal, etc..well, that's what we have now. Hydro is built where they will allow it,it's installed and operating,and it's a bear to get a permit for any new ones because of environmental regs for small scale low head hydro, there's always some endangered minnow whatever that puts the kabosh on it. In fact, the US has been ripping out small dams yearly now by the dozens, all over.
So that's the solution, it's "all of the above", just use what works where it's appropriate. Example, I own a small wind genny and a solar array. The solar is up because it works where I am, but average wind speeds here are dismal, so I never put up a tower for the wind genny. I keep it packed away for extreme dire emergencies if that's all I can get for electric, but now where I am it's a waste of time. But the solar PV works great! And some places like farms or foodstuff packing plants have tons of biowaste, so for them installing methane digesters works. It just depends, people keep looking for the one silver bullet-the backyard Mr. fusion- that will work for all people all the time every place, and frankly, I don't think it's happening any time soon. so we use what we have. The tech is here, it works now, even the larger petroleum companies are getting into selling solar, they just want to sell "energy", they could care less where it comes from. My solar is 100% Paid off, I own it, it works. I don't run all my stuff on it, but I can run *some* of my stuff and I have a guaranteed source when the grid goes down, and no one can charge me any more for it. for someone else, like I said, it would be better to put up a wind tower, currently extremely cost competetive with coal for instance at the larger end of things. In fact, there's more wind energy plants (by total MW) going up around the world right now than any other type of electrical generation facility.
Alternative energy "pay back" formulae are a guess at best. Unless you have an equivalent contract with your grid electric supplier for approximately the same projected time span, with a locked in price guarantee for KWHs, you have *no idea* whatsoever what your electric bill will be years or decades down the road. Therefore, any long term alleged "payback" estimates are almost pure guesses. AFAIK this is only available (joe-residential long term price contracts, ten years) at one place in the US, in Austin I believe.
With that said, my *only* regret with my solar purchases has been not doing it years sooner. It is very similar in my way of thinking to getting a computer. I bet most everyone here knows someone who doesn't have a computer ho said something like "I'll just wait for it to become cheaper/better/faster" Uh huh, yep. You will never get one then and miss out on one of the coolest things going. Being an early or "earlier" adopter has a lot of benefits, some of them not immediately translatable into pure dollar figures.
Having solar is a good deal. IMO, it is better to have an additional storage battery bank backup along with the net metering, as it provides a very nifty whole house ( or dedicated circuits, etc) UPS system,something any geek could appreciate I am sure. Backups are a good thing. No area of the nation is immune to vagueries in either the environment or in politics. Stuff happens, people lose power (or the cash to rent some power) for a varity of reasons. Earthquakes, hurricanes, ice storms, forest fires, outsourcing and lose your job, or goofy weird crap like Enron scams. And who wants to bet that Enron is the last time anything...strange...happens to the energy market? Stuff just happens, planetary wild cards that can't be exactly predicted in advance, no matter how good the armchair energy pundit quarterback appears.
From personal experience, I can state that it is way cool to still have decent power when your neighborhood loses grid power. quiet, functional, clean power that requires no fuel other than the ssun shining. It's just *way, way cool*. Having at least some guaranteed electric=good. Depending on someone else, some faceless corporate provider all the time for it=iffy at best and quite frankly, sort of annoying. It's nice to be a producer and not just a consumer all the time, yes? It's also nice to know that at some time in the future it will be paid off and you own it outright, not vendor locked-in renting (with no set price)in perpetuity for a modern lifestyle critical component.
...has pushed back the date of the first arrivals considerably, and it looks like they landed in south america from boats. The siberian land bridge folks came later.
An AC flaming someone on the intarweb! How very brave and informed you are! log in if you want to flame like that. And I never said 802.11 was dead, I said it was a dead end the way it is now, especially for the purposes of widespread municipal deployment in particular.. Big difference there. It's low powered and limited range. It's fine for closeby connections, but anything beyond that requires massive hoop jumping, that's why it's so expensive to deploy in large areas and it's why most of the big money is looking elsewhere. Engineering is just engineering, the regs are the regs, 802.11 is extremely limited in what it can do. And chances are you don't even know about the tech I was talking about that was announced publicaly the last week or so.
just recently there has been two critical tech breakthroughs that will help ease the pain of building a more universal high speed broadband network in the US. 802.11 is a dead end from lack of range. It just is. One new breakthrough announced recently is wave guided wireless broadband inside of existing natural gas pipelines. The other is the "whisper" wireless that can use exisiting spectrum and piggy backs at very low wattage and has tremendous range.
....back in the heyday of *legal* and controlled immigration,the 1800's, our federal government was 100% funded by protectionist tariffs at the border. Did you forget that little part? We also had tons of *free land* that the immigrants and existing citizens could go to and live and work. Free AND land. Do we have that now? Where is it, I'll take a half section right now if you can point me to it. Last I knew it didn't exist, and most areas are already tapped out infrastructure wise- we are running out of freshwater, the entire grid needs to be rebuilt to satisfy demand, and the nations roads and other critical points like that are crumbling, literally crumbling from use with no maintenance of note. We can't afford it any longer, yet we used to be able to keep up with it. We had tons of natural resources back then to exploit, and no one even knew about pollution or long term effects of industrialization. Now it's mostly used up, even our humongous petroleum deposits of yester year are past peak in this nation. And, most importantly, back then we had a tangibles/wealth production-based currency, not a proxy command and control apparatus that we have now, which is "closed source" printed up paper fiat money and the not even necessary "income" tax structure, and the surfeit of laws and regs that run to the (now) millions of entries in the governmental databases. We didn't try to pass off a wealth re-arranging economy back then as "good", people still understood that wealth has to be produced to accumulate, not just re arranged and managed. Wealth is grown, mined and manufactured and that's it, anything else is wealth re arrangment.
It is nothing like it was back in ye olden days. Globalisation where products and jobs can be moved to third world nations, and third world immigrants are "lawful" even though it still breaks their still on the books laws (legal to illegal is way skewed numbers wise yet they-the elite "they" do nothing to control it) are totally different now, and has seriously harmed and eroded all the gains made in the last century for the middle class, and it has happened over the past 25 years or so. a person simply cannot continue to compete when his basic cost of living for housing etc never goes down, but his income drops or gets lost due to inflation of the currency or outsourcing of a still useful job or insourcing an illegal to take his job, so he has nothing as income except credit. Cheaper trinkets at walmart and low level limited retail shuffling jobs with practical no bennies in exchange for wealth producing jobs and tangible wealth production jobs with great bennies have resulted in the highest deficits, highest level of personal and corporate bankruptcies, highest level of non-home ownership (people are getting mortgages now that are *pure interest* because they can't afford to actually pay them off, they are NOT home "owners"). I can remember when ten year low interest mortgages were common, and they got paid off and people lived in their homes then for a generation or more to raise their families, not these 30 year open ended pure interest mortgages like we have now. Autos used to be a 12 month note for brand-new, now they are 60 months and kmore and more are leasing because they can't afford to purchase and get locked in to a perpetual debt. Stuff like that. Our over-all savings (public and private) are at the lowest point in our history. Our governmental balance of trade is at the worst point ever in our nations history. The average worker here is losing ground, only maintained by the illusion of prosperity based on simply ridiculous amounts of fiat credit from the global loan sharks. All those are facts, indisputable facts, data, you or anyone can go look up the numbers.
It is not a level playing field, "free trade" doesn't even exist except as a theory, and it is not even close, and any comparisons with the 1800's and immigration and trade and monetary policies then to now are comparing apples to rock quarries,
...according to the article that they ARE headed towards being yet another craptacular huge corporation, which was predicted by many once they went public. It has happened to just about every other large name brand company that started out "cool". go public, have to deal with shareholders= downhill slide into profits at *any* cost mentality.
For such a tech and brains oriented company, this is a seriously major fubar on their part. There's no way (*except one) the engineers there would have recommended it, so it had to come from sales management, ergo, on the path to craptacularness.
*Disclaimer there is one potential theoretical way. Speculation now. Hidden someplace some company has devised a way to do this BPL without causing interference. Google knows this from insider info. That's the only thing I can think of why they would invest in it. From publically known about radio engineering realities, BPL is a hideously lame tech.
I've read too much anecdotal and heard too much from insiders to discount the possibility. And the economic news is right there in the open, it's like people need even bigger clues?? heh. My own nephew walked away from an Army career a few years ago because he didn't want to be used domestically, and he said they were being trained for that eventuality, and it wasn't "foreigners" they were emphasizing according to what he told me. This is appropriate, if you follow their labeling of a lot of things as "terrorist" and read the fine print in the Patriot act, Modern states health powers emergency act,etc.
My prediction: the US will become a *very interesting place* within two years or so now. Watch what happens socially once the housing bubble pops and petroleum cracks 100$/barrel.......just a hunch, hope I am wrong of course.
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Is there (question to anyone) a linux distro now that uses all autopackages?
...yes, it would be at least partially your fault for not fixing your lock when you knew about it. Contributory negligence, something like that, at least in a *practical* sense, although not in a strictly legal sense. The real world has badguys,always has, always will, and to just wish them away is sorta silly, because it just isn't going to happen, ever.
In a nutshell this is the US economy and how our business leaders and politicians think. It is funny to the extreme, except for the sucky parts which are ALL of them.
Microsoft as an official company is SO FAR OUT TO LUNCH they need the hubble telescope to see reality.
I'd like to say I wish them well, but I don't. I hope they edselize, the sooner the better. If any corporation ever needed to just go far far away, they are the one. Biggest planetary drag on innovation and the economy out there, taken as a gestalt. Why worry about outsourcing or chinese nukes or "terrorists" when your own merkun companies like microsoft and the entertainment monopolies and their bribed off politicians can do an outstanding job of screwing you over all by themselves?
I honestly think MS marketing has lost it, absolutely no ideas any more other than new ways to be crooks. And lame crooks to boot. I keep waiting for *anything* to come from them that could be classified as good, and just plain ain't seeing it. Ya ya ya they'll keep making money for awhile, but eventually even the dullest of the dull realises they are being serial conned.
The main reason that journalism is "flawed" is because in the MSM or Main Stream News, either print or broadcast, the main focus is on making money. It's a "business" first. You will have to somehow make it be "news" first to get more accuracy and objectivity in reporting.
And then it could segue into something roughly analagous to the debates over for-sale closed source software and collaborative information-sharing free software. Could a news reading public be persuaded to actually become critical reporters and "share" news freely? Could it replace the expensive and established profit motive design of "news" as we know it today?
Some might say blogging is at least an attempt in that direction.
pay-by-the-hour dialup, the finest kind...
...the parent is correct, millions still use OTA analog TV with rabbit ears or external antennas in the US. It's a huge number still, estimates are 13 million to 22 million households down in this url.
= 2005-05-27
http://www.tvtechnology.com/dailynews/issue.php?w
I understand where you are coming from, so here's an answer. It's not the *only* answer but it's an answer. You're one dude, so am I. I can do what one dude can do. I can't change the entire world, tra la la make it better. I *can* change my personal immediate environment for the better, the much better. Ya, I got candles and oil lamps, but a nice 12 volt light or radio or tv is just so much better when the mains are borked, and it's cheaper than drycell batts. I can't just say POOF SHAZZAM and get everyone to eat less crappy food with no poisons on it, but I can grow extra nice organic stuff like that in our gardens and get it to friends and the local supermarket and we get to eat on it year round. cool beans.
And stuff like that there. One dude, one dudes actions. Can't change the whirrled but you can change your little piece of the whirrled. Immediate "pay back". Multiply by every "one dude" out there now you are talking, and with more than words "talking". Actions are where it's at.
As to prius, got no use for a tiny sedan really, although girlfriend has one (high MPG auto), I am a truck or tractor kinda dude, stuff to work with. Could really care less if I go to town once a week or three times a year or something. I only go when I absolutely *have* to go. The thing with the hybrids or electrics is, there's a really nasty hidden cost with constant burning ICE engine style vehicles and that's inside huge cities, the pollution gets trapped there, it "islands", and it makes hoo-manns sick, really sick. Kids n astham is outta site in the big cities for instance. They need to drop it considerably, so there's a start. As to batts, they are pretty recyclable now, even the acid solution, I don't see that as a major problem. And my deep storage cells with battery desulphators are 8 years old now, still going strong. Those semi new gadgets really do work, greatly extend the life of flooded lead acid batts. And there's several new batt techs out there now coming on strong, just needs more interest, and if it's geeks modding priuses, so be it, that's how we get real practical innovation, one dude changing his local-to-him whatever for the better. That's what we as geeks *do*.
he was the guy who threw the rocks. the other cops ignored him and started beating on the guys around him. Fairly suspicious so I followed. He goes directly to a marked car and talks to an older gray haired cop, so I will assume the older cop had some rank over the early 20's younger undercover cop. After that some friends and I, free lance journalists, tasked ourselves with "outing" similar perps at demos. turned out this was common. We wound up IDing several and got their photos published in the "alternative" press of the day, caused a *serious stink* way (way) back when. Heh. Great times.
Insiders
Hmm, some I can talk about and some I can't. If it comes up in a thread and it's something I can talk about I would chime in (like I just did). If it's something I can only vaguely allude to, that will have to be it, lot of contacts I have are still in either sensitive situations or are trying to hang on to dot gov pensions and what they told me is priveleged, so I have to go by that. That's just how that works. Want a generic freebie, here ya go, blood relative of mine, deceased now, career spook, serious cold war years. Told me before he went about how they used to try and induce tropical storms to turn into hurricanes to hit cuba (not effective but they really tried via massive cloud seeding), and how they tried to bork their crops there with plant diseases(more effective, tobacco mosaic to be precise is one I remember him mentioning).
dunno if that counts or not, but I sure believed him, he had zero reason to tell me and a lot of reasons not to. I knew about the cuban missile crisis two weeks before it hit the public news, and that sure turned out true, all from him dropping a dime from a payphone.
Glad you went and researched though, most folks won't bother looking, appreciate the give and take.
My default after all these years is sad to say "no trust" and I freely admit it. Been that way since the day jack ruby offed oswald and I go NO WAY! someone just offed the prime witness! I mean, about as obvious as you can get. Since then made it a little hobby to look for the politically weird, the coincidental, the just "off". Easy enough to find. Am I wrong sometimes? Sure, but most of the time based on reflection over decades now I am usually proven correct.
foot soldiers, on the street perps? london bombers? dime a dozen, those guys ain't the important guys, higher than that is where it's at. who profits, who has motive and opportunity? Where's the boatloads of cash and power at? I start from there and work backwards. Are there serious nutcase jihadists? You betcha! no probs, they exist. Are there serious power glomming western biz guys in dark suits who would do *anything* for a buck or pound or another shred of power? You betcha! Both are true statements. I have to work from that, because it's real. It is not one _or_ the other. Both.
I smell a rat with the london case, even beyond the timing of the visor wargames scenario, that's just frosting. Just too cute. Downing street memos heating up things, karl rove getting nailed in the press, iraq appearing more and more to be out of control (it is really), etc, etc, g8 conference-bingo! Another attack. Always seems like something like that happens just when things are getting interesting for the public PTB. Wonder why that is? heh, double heh
It smells bad to me, smells like so many other incidents.
Just don't like coincidences and surface level treatments. Been enough yellow caking BS to go around to show this latest terror business is just that, a very very lucrative *business*, both for cash and for power aggregation.
second that. Great racks.
The company's name is visor, it was on both the bbc audio and on ITV. You can google it up yourself, the clips are spreading all over the net.
The us government was running "hijacked planes smashing into buildings" wargames previous to and on the day of 9-11, you can google that up too. Of course their spokesmodels claimed they had "no idea" until this evidence leaked out. There's also a few lawsuits running now where fbi agents were told to sit down and shutup over their 'terror" investigations once they started getting closer to white guys in suits. They thought that was *strange* so now these whistleblower suits are on. You can google that up as well. I am not your private research source, you can run a keyboard same as anyone may who is on the net. Try "9-11, government prior knowledge" as some search wordsto get started.
Sorry, just been doing this stuff for going on 40 years now and change. I just have talked to too many insiders who have clued me in to how things work, compared to what they want the public to believe. For example (this is low level but appropriate, just an example),something I have seen myself real time, caught an "undercover" dressed in "civvies" cop agent provocateur stoning uniformed cops at a demo in order to give them an excuse to attack a crowd of peaceful protesters. he was allowed to walk away from the event, funny they didn't go after him, just the other people. i followed him back for blocks until he checked in with his "superior" in a car. I know two other cops who are now retired who told me they were ordered to do similar, or to look the other way. Stuff like this is common, and it follows the heglian dialectic.
Our "leaders" are by and large "not nice" people, and the people who give them orders are even worse than that. You can continue to blindly accept what they tell you, but for myself and now millions of other people, we still will be questioning. As ronnie used to say, you can trust, but first you must verify. If it constantly fails the verification test, eventually you just default to "no trust". simple as that for me. Once or twice, sure, random happenings, stuff happens, I can understand that, coincidences,etc, but dozens of times, or hundreds, including whoppers, nope, they have become just as untrustworthy as any other criminal gang.
umm, I am a farm worker, and don't make that much money, very low in fact. I would imagine as slashdot posters go I am outside a significant amount, most likely more than you.. I also live where the grid power goes out frequently, twice in the past week for example, and having storage batteries is a good thing. I can whip on the 12 volt TV to see the weather map, run a laptop to get on the net (if the phonelines stay up and aren't noisy)if I want, run a reading light, the shortwave,etc.
My solar is *very* practical and even though it is a low amount, it's guaranteed effective,it is completely paid off, no one sends me a bill for it now, and because I can store it up, I have several days worth of electricity for at least some minimum useages.
And so no, I will not "piss off". You can stuff it though, girly man luddite troll.
kinda like that
The bbc ran the interview. Data. That's evidence so far. I have also just learned that certain rail "tube" stations might have been shutdown *before* the bomb blasts in london, with heavy police and EMT presence at the entry ways. Was it part of the drill reported on BBC audio, my original reference? Can't say yet. Certainly could be though.
In the US the government was running "drills" about airliners crashing into buildings, yet later they denied at the commission investigation that they had any idea that something like that could happen. So which was it again? How is it that up to 9-11, all previous incidents of major planes off course had jet fighters on them within minutes, but on 9-11 none of that happened? Coincidence? really? You believe that hogwash?
You may believe in political coincidences,in regards such high stakes endeavors as changing the political course of entire nations,not to mention trillions in potential profits, but I sure don't, not when they keep happening over and over again and *always* in favor of increasing big brother actions.
And al queda, what exactly is this al queda thing, where did it come from? Oh ya, it means the "base" or database of cia contracted muslim jihadists who were organized, trained and supplied to be assymetrical warfare fighters. Isn't that interesting.
The US and the UK have a very long past verified history of supporting coups, counter coups, revolutions, take overs, support for tin pot dictators and support FROM the highest levels of blood profits international "commerce". That is who really calls the shots, those that profit the most from it. those are the real "leaders" in the western world, not these spokesmodel doofuses like bush and blair, they are puppets, told what to do.. In asia, africa and south america and eastern europe they have been stage managing events for years, generations really. So why are people surprised when they move into what geographical areas are left for this sort of action? Do people in the US and the UK really think they have some magical cosmic deal where THEY can't be taken over and run by the same behind the scenes forces? Says who?
the evidence is all around you, if you choose to look and can extrapolatte a little from history and present day events.
I mean really,just this morning I am reading, the bus that got bombed, coincidently THOSE cameras installed on the bus were *turned off*. uh huh, another coincidence. uh huh sure it is.
You want revisionism, look to your "superiors" who claim one thing then later on it turns out to be false. Downing street memos perhaps? PNAC docs about taking over IRAQ from before 9-11?
You just go right ahead and keep believing the paid off crooked governments tin foil hat conspiracy theories, eventually they get proven out. It may take decades, like with the *completely* phony "tonkin gulf attacks" that were the major reason the US went to war in nam. That took more than 30 years for them to finally admit it was pure fantasy.
The same is happening now with the phony war on terror and these stage managed events. it's busting wide open in italy right now, turns out a lot of "terrorist" attacks attributed to one faction were actually carried out by fascist factions connected to the government. took years, but it's coming out now. many arrests. Check your own news sources, do your own looking up.
Same deal in the US and UK, just sit back and enjoy the show as the lying murderous rats keep scrambling. They are desparate now.
killing random innocents is distasteful. Claiming al queda did it immediately based on one release at a controlled known about western website is distasteful. Ignoring the *plethora* of evidence that 9-11 was an inside job, and that tons of "al queda" have a long and notorius background as being contract employees or assets of western intel services is distasteful. Ignoring that these various wars were long planned in advance, then lied about repeatedly by the authorities, and that now the evidence is starting to leak more and more is distasteful. Ignoring the fact that your so called "leaders" (or "superiors" if you have chose that life path) are chronic serial liars is distasteful. Realising that false flag efforts are a common tactic in assymetrical warfare (or internal coups, there I said it out loud) is distasteful, but necessary. Ignoring uncomfortable evidence is distasteful. Watching it happen yet again is distasteful.
And watching western civilization slide down the tubes to outright fascism based on heglian dialectic transnational fascist corporate blood profits at any cost "intel" actions run by a coterie of elite globalist bastards is quite distasteful.
Merely pointing it out might make people uncomfortable (believe me I am not comfortable with it, none whatsoever, zero), but it needs to be done.
History, learn from it or re-live it, only two choices you have.
You are aware a security company was conducting "exercises" on 7-7 in London simultaneously with the attacks? About bombs going off in the subway and on busses? At the *exact* same time the *exact* attack occurred in *exactly* the manner in which it happened? Reported on BBC audio, poofed away now.
This isn't ringing alarm bells for you over this terrorist attack? You really believe in coincidences of this magnitude? You just blindly accept big brothers government instantaneouly whenever they decide to tell you something?
Same thing happened in the US ith 9-11.
It's morning, enjoy some coffee, smell the aroma, breathe deep and *wake up*. Shake the cobwebs out.
...alternative energy scheme that is a complete repolacement for petroeum. but taken in the aggregate -solar,wind, methane, biodiesel, ethanol, hydrogen from coal, etc..well, that's what we have now. Hydro is built where they will allow it,it's installed and operating,and it's a bear to get a permit for any new ones because of environmental regs for small scale low head hydro, there's always some endangered minnow whatever that puts the kabosh on it. In fact, the US has been ripping out small dams yearly now by the dozens, all over.
So that's the solution, it's "all of the above", just use what works where it's appropriate. Example, I own a small wind genny and a solar array. The solar is up because it works where I am, but average wind speeds here are dismal, so I never put up a tower for the wind genny. I keep it packed away for extreme dire emergencies if that's all I can get for electric, but now where I am it's a waste of time. But the solar PV works great! And some places like farms or foodstuff packing plants have tons of biowaste, so for them installing methane digesters works. It just depends, people keep looking for the one silver bullet-the backyard Mr. fusion- that will work for all people all the time every place, and frankly, I don't think it's happening any time soon. so we use what we have. The tech is here, it works now, even the larger petroleum companies are getting into selling solar, they just want to sell "energy", they could care less where it comes from. My solar is 100% Paid off, I own it, it works. I don't run all my stuff on it, but I can run *some* of my stuff and I have a guaranteed source when the grid goes down, and no one can charge me any more for it. for someone else, like I said, it would be better to put up a wind tower, currently extremely cost competetive with coal for instance at the larger end of things. In fact, there's more wind energy plants (by total MW) going up around the world right now than any other type of electrical generation facility.
Alternative energy "pay back" formulae are a guess at best. Unless you have an equivalent contract with your grid electric supplier for approximately the same projected time span, with a locked in price guarantee for KWHs, you have *no idea* whatsoever what your electric bill will be years or decades down the road. Therefore, any long term alleged "payback" estimates are almost pure guesses. AFAIK this is only available (joe-residential long term price contracts, ten years) at one place in the US, in Austin I believe.
With that said, my *only* regret with my solar purchases has been not doing it years sooner. It is very similar in my way of thinking to getting a computer. I bet most everyone here knows someone who doesn't have a computer ho said something like "I'll just wait for it to become cheaper/better/faster" Uh huh, yep. You will never get one then and miss out on one of the coolest things going. Being an early or "earlier" adopter has a lot of benefits, some of them not immediately translatable into pure dollar figures.
Having solar is a good deal. IMO, it is better to have an additional storage battery bank backup along with the net metering, as it provides a very nifty whole house ( or dedicated circuits, etc) UPS system,something any geek could appreciate I am sure. Backups are a good thing. No area of the nation is immune to vagueries in either the environment or in politics. Stuff happens, people lose power (or the cash to rent some power) for a varity of reasons. Earthquakes, hurricanes, ice storms, forest fires, outsourcing and lose your job, or goofy weird crap like Enron scams. And who wants to bet that Enron is the last time anything...strange...happens to the energy market? Stuff just happens, planetary wild cards that can't be exactly predicted in advance, no matter how good the armchair energy pundit quarterback appears.
From personal experience, I can state that it is way cool to still have decent power when your neighborhood loses grid power. quiet, functional, clean power that requires no fuel other than the ssun shining. It's just *way, way cool*. Having at least some guaranteed electric=good. Depending on someone else, some faceless corporate provider all the time for it=iffy at best and quite frankly, sort of annoying. It's nice to be a producer and not just a consumer all the time, yes? It's also nice to know that at some time in the future it will be paid off and you own it outright, not vendor locked-in renting (with no set price)in perpetuity for a modern lifestyle critical component.
...has pushed back the date of the first arrivals considerably, and it looks like they landed in south america from boats. The siberian land bridge folks came later.
An AC flaming someone on the intarweb! How very brave and informed you are! log in if you want to flame like that. And I never said 802.11 was dead, I said it was a dead end the way it is now, especially for the purposes of widespread municipal deployment in particular.. Big difference there. It's low powered and limited range. It's fine for closeby connections, but anything beyond that requires massive hoop jumping, that's why it's so expensive to deploy in large areas and it's why most of the big money is looking elsewhere. Engineering is just engineering, the regs are the regs, 802.11 is extremely limited in what it can do. And chances are you don't even know about the tech I was talking about that was announced publicaly the last week or so.
just recently there has been two critical tech breakthroughs that will help ease the pain of building a more universal high speed broadband network in the US. 802.11 is a dead end from lack of range. It just is. One new breakthrough announced recently is wave guided wireless broadband inside of existing natural gas pipelines. The other is the "whisper" wireless that can use exisiting spectrum and piggy backs at very low wattage and has tremendous range.
It is nothing like it was back in ye olden days. Globalisation where products and jobs can be moved to third world nations, and third world immigrants are "lawful" even though it still breaks their still on the books laws (legal to illegal is way skewed numbers wise yet they-the elite "they" do nothing to control it) are totally different now, and has seriously harmed and eroded all the gains made in the last century for the middle class, and it has happened over the past 25 years or so. a person simply cannot continue to compete when his basic cost of living for housing etc never goes down, but his income drops or gets lost due to inflation of the currency or outsourcing of a still useful job or insourcing an illegal to take his job, so he has nothing as income except credit. Cheaper trinkets at walmart and low level limited retail shuffling jobs with practical no bennies in exchange for wealth producing jobs and tangible wealth production jobs with great bennies have resulted in the highest deficits, highest level of personal and corporate bankruptcies, highest level of non-home ownership (people are getting mortgages now that are *pure interest* because they can't afford to actually pay them off, they are NOT home "owners"). I can remember when ten year low interest mortgages were common, and they got paid off and people lived in their homes then for a generation or more to raise their families, not these 30 year open ended pure interest mortgages like we have now. Autos used to be a 12 month note for brand-new, now they are 60 months and kmore and more are leasing because they can't afford to purchase and get locked in to a perpetual debt. Stuff like that. Our over-all savings (public and private) are at the lowest point in our history. Our governmental balance of trade is at the worst point ever in our nations history. The average worker here is losing ground, only maintained by the illusion of prosperity based on simply ridiculous amounts of fiat credit from the global loan sharks. All those are facts, indisputable facts, data, you or anyone can go look up the numbers.
It is not a level playing field, "free trade" doesn't even exist except as a theory, and it is not even close, and any comparisons with the 1800's and immigration and trade and monetary policies then to now are comparing apples to rock quarries,
Aye, lad, and 'tis a fine, fine story indeed!
...according to the article that they ARE headed towards being yet another craptacular huge corporation, which was predicted by many once they went public. It has happened to just about every other large name brand company that started out "cool". go public, have to deal with shareholders= downhill slide into profits at *any* cost mentality.
For such a tech and brains oriented company, this is a seriously major fubar on their part. There's no way (*except one) the engineers there would have recommended it, so it had to come from sales management, ergo, on the path to craptacularness.
*Disclaimer there is one potential theoretical way. Speculation now. Hidden someplace some company has devised a way to do this BPL without causing interference. Google knows this from insider info. That's the only thing I can think of why they would invest in it. From publically known about radio engineering realities, BPL is a hideously lame tech.
I've read too much anecdotal and heard too much from insiders to discount the possibility. And the economic news is right there in the open, it's like people need even bigger clues?? heh. My own nephew walked away from an Army career a few years ago because he didn't want to be used domestically, and he said they were being trained for that eventuality, and it wasn't "foreigners" they were emphasizing according to what he told me. This is appropriate, if you follow their labeling of a lot of things as "terrorist" and read the fine print in the Patriot act, Modern states health powers emergency act,etc.
.. "without constant antitrust enforcement."...or nasty bloody revolution, whichever comes first.
..just a hunch, hope I am wrong of course.
My prediction: the US will become a *very interesting place* within two years or so now. Watch what happens socially once the housing bubble pops and petroleum cracks 100$/barrel.....