The others being performance and functionality related. I don't like ad's due to the security risk
Am I missing something here? How insecure does your browser have to be to allow insecure code to be run just by visiting a website? I thought we were past the days of IE6!
Those who regulate their telephone sector strongly, and those who don't. The US is in the latter category, and the majority are going to suffer for it. All I can say is that I'm glad I'm not in the US. I feel for you guys.
Never mind English, there are lots of paths to learning it in most countries. Not so the other way. How about a scheme for those of us who want to learn some other, relatively minor language, where it is difficult to even find basic texts outside its native country?
LiveMocha used to be good until Rosetta Stone bought them out and ruined it.:-(
Well that pretty much explains where I part company with Mozilla's philosophy. Frankly, I'm not accessing the web from a mobile device in the 3rd world, I'm developing from a desktop machine in the 1st world. Someone should develop for the 3rd world but let it be Google, not Mozilla. They should've focussed on maintaining a quality PC web browser with a comprehensive interface.
... I'm still using an old version of Thunderbird. I don't get my mailnews interface overhauled every 5 minutes and that's the way I likes it. Web apps are overrated.
Australis has been generally well-received as far as I know. A few loud people here and there though didn't like the change.
HAH! Classic Theme Restorer already has 150,000 users, and that's just the people who had the time and inclination to download it. Who's to say how many others dislike Australis but just put up with it? Others have switched to Seamonkey, Pale Moon, or even the real Google Chrome.
No, Mozilla definitely seem pretty picky about when they want to listen to negative community feedback. Sometimes they stubbornly ignore it.
I'm all for LGBT rights and such, but really to criticize a game just cuz it don't include your sexual orientation..? I dunno about that. What's next? Is the LGBT community going to demand air time in Disney cartoons next?
No... but they might start demanding that CEOs be fired for small private contributions to a campaign whose message is contrary to their opinion about how marriage should be redefined...
I know this seems like a rather basic question, but why did Mozilla decide to create B2G? I mean, "everything is a web app"? So fucking what, does that give every app some more intrinsic value because it has "web" in the title?
The way I see it, they've taken valuable resources away from supporting useful projects like a standalong mail client (Thunderbird) and internet suite (SeaMonkey) and pissed them away developing Yet Another Mobile OS. I'm probably going to go for an Android phone for my next phone. Why would I go with Firefox OS? It's less mature, and I see nothing about its fundamental nature that makes it better than Android.
More "open"? Look at who wrote most of it's specs - it's Mozilla and Google. At the end of the day, if Mozilla stop supporting it, you're screwed. Just like if Google stop supporting Android, you're screwed. Why B2G ever got off the drawing board is a mystery.
Can someone explain this "no-poaching pact" thing to me? I'm a software developer in the UK, and it's not uncommon on employment contracts to have something where you have to agree not to work for a competitor (or even with any of your company's clients) for a year after you leave the company. Is this not usually allowed in the US?
If the URL is automatically highlighted that makes it even more easy to lose the content of your middle click paste buffer.
God, I hate the "double clipboard buffer" thing in Linux systems. That really *IS* something that could do with some UX improvement. And as for auto-copying anything that is selected, I have little sympathy for users that suffer because of that behaviour - it's braindead. Use ctrl-c or whatever. Copying is a separate command from selecting, and no interface should merge the two.
Nuclear is not "less safe and clean than solar". Safety at modern nukes (when well-regulated) is top-notch, and a small amonut of manageable nuclear waste hardly qualifies as "dirty" - no dirtier than the byproducts of making solar panels.
I want to thank you for this, it makes Firefox 29 usable again.
But part of me wonders if I'm missing the point, if they're so intent on breaking it then might I as well just move browsers now? If I'm having to rely on addons to make a browser work then am I not just sat precariously one step away from Mozilla deciding that addon is unacceptable and cancelling it anyway?
That's precisely the conclusion I came to (well not quite about the Mozilla-cancelling-it bit, more like "addon developer doesnt have time to maintain it") a year ago when I switched to SeaMonkey.
Check out SeaMonkey and Pale Moon. Both offer traditional style Firefox interfaces with the Gecko rendering engine. If you go with SeaMonkey and want a nicer theme, check out my theme (in my sig):-)
According to the video you can select the icons and menus you want to display in the toolbar... that include all the addons/plugins/extensions too. What customization has been dropped?
Just off the top of my head: - No status bar (yeah, been that way for a while now) - No big toolbar icons, they have to be small - No text with toolbar icons - No tabs-on-bottom - Bye-bye bookmarks and history sidebars - Adios Stop button - In fact adios any clear, decent-sized reload or stop buttons... now you have a tiny icon in the URLbar that changes function based on the state of the tab; bad design - Can't move back/forward buttons away from the URLbar - Can't create new toolbars - Of the whopping 2 toolbars you get, you can't move the URLbar to the lower 'bookmarks' toolbar
Intel now has a monopoly on the general-purpose CPU market. It's Intel or nothing. Could this be a problem with regards to price, and perhaps enforced DRM (if there's no competition Intel are able to dictate what DRM goes on the CPU)?
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Does anyone have thoughts on Google spinning this out as a not for profit and make public backbones that are truly ubiquitous and marginalized?
A government that wasn't corrupt and swimming in fatcat money would have done this already for the public good.
The others being performance and functionality related. I don't like ad's due to the security risk
Am I missing something here? How insecure does your browser have to be to allow insecure code to be run just by visiting a website? I thought we were past the days of IE6!
Do you have 64 gigs of RAM? Because I compile my own Firefox, and that's what it takes -- Most users can not compile their own browser
Funny, I recently compiled on a machine with 2 gigs of RAM.
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Those who regulate their telephone sector strongly, and those who don't. The US is in the latter category, and the majority are going to suffer for it. All I can say is that I'm glad I'm not in the US. I feel for you guys.
What about Firefox OS? "Everything's a web app."
Never mind English, there are lots of paths to learning it in most countries. Not so the other way. How about a scheme for those of us who want to learn some other, relatively minor language, where it is difficult to even find basic texts outside its native country?
LiveMocha used to be good until Rosetta Stone bought them out and ruined it. :-(
Well that pretty much explains where I part company with Mozilla's philosophy. Frankly, I'm not accessing the web from a mobile device in the 3rd world, I'm developing from a desktop machine in the 1st world. Someone should develop for the 3rd world but let it be Google, not Mozilla. They should've focussed on maintaining a quality PC web browser with a comprehensive interface.
... I'm still using an old version of Thunderbird. I don't get my mailnews interface overhauled every 5 minutes and that's the way I likes it. Web apps are overrated.
Australis has been generally well-received as far as I know. A few loud people here and there though didn't like the change.
HAH! Classic Theme Restorer already has 150,000 users, and that's just the people who had the time and inclination to download it. Who's to say how many others dislike Australis but just put up with it? Others have switched to Seamonkey, Pale Moon, or even the real Google Chrome.
No, Mozilla definitely seem pretty picky about when they want to listen to negative community feedback. Sometimes they stubbornly ignore it.
I'm all for LGBT rights and such, but really to criticize a game just cuz it don't include your sexual orientation..? I dunno about that. What's next? Is the LGBT community going to demand air time in Disney cartoons next?
No... but they might start demanding that CEOs be fired for small private contributions to a campaign whose message is contrary to their opinion about how marriage should be redefined...
What's wrong with "screw Oracle, I'll use C#"? You've even got Mono to allow you to develop and run on Linux or whatever.
I know this seems like a rather basic question, but why did Mozilla decide to create B2G? I mean, "everything is a web app"? So fucking what, does that give every app some more intrinsic value because it has "web" in the title?
The way I see it, they've taken valuable resources away from supporting useful projects like a standalong mail client (Thunderbird) and internet suite (SeaMonkey) and pissed them away developing Yet Another Mobile OS. I'm probably going to go for an Android phone for my next phone. Why would I go with Firefox OS? It's less mature, and I see nothing about its fundamental nature that makes it better than Android.
More "open"? Look at who wrote most of it's specs - it's Mozilla and Google. At the end of the day, if Mozilla stop supporting it, you're screwed. Just like if Google stop supporting Android, you're screwed. Why B2G ever got off the drawing board is a mystery.
Hip, hip, horray! :-)
Can someone explain this "no-poaching pact" thing to me? I'm a software developer in the UK, and it's not uncommon on employment contracts to have something where you have to agree not to work for a competitor (or even with any of your company's clients) for a year after you leave the company. Is this not usually allowed in the US?
If the URL is automatically highlighted that makes it even more easy to lose the content of your middle click paste buffer.
God, I hate the "double clipboard buffer" thing in Linux systems. That really *IS* something that could do with some UX improvement. And as for auto-copying anything that is selected, I have little sympathy for users that suffer because of that behaviour - it's braindead. Use ctrl-c or whatever. Copying is a separate command from selecting, and no interface should merge the two.
If the target audience of your browser is a half step or less from computer illiterate, you need to take steps to protect them from themselves.
So if the target audience of Chrome is people who are barely computer-literate, why do they bother embedding advanced developer tools in there?
Nuclear is not "less safe and clean than solar". Safety at modern nukes (when well-regulated) is top-notch, and a small amonut of manageable nuclear waste hardly qualifies as "dirty" - no dirtier than the byproducts of making solar panels.
The fastest we've ever been about to propel something is 24,000 mph
Actually, Wikipedia says Voyager 1 is travelling at 38,350 mph.
The Yahoo! mail problem has been fixed in trunk, so it will soon work again in SeaMonkey.
I want to thank you for this, it makes Firefox 29 usable again.
But part of me wonders if I'm missing the point, if they're so intent on breaking it then might I as well just move browsers now? If I'm having to rely on addons to make a browser work then am I not just sat precariously one step away from Mozilla deciding that addon is unacceptable and cancelling it anyway?
That's precisely the conclusion I came to (well not quite about the Mozilla-cancelling-it bit, more like "addon developer doesnt have time to maintain it") a year ago when I switched to SeaMonkey.
Check out SeaMonkey and Pale Moon. Both offer traditional style Firefox interfaces with the Gecko rendering engine. If you go with SeaMonkey and want a nicer theme, check out my theme (in my sig) :-)
According to the video you can select the icons and menus you want to display in the toolbar... that include all the addons/plugins/extensions too. What customization has been dropped?
Just off the top of my head:
- No status bar (yeah, been that way for a while now)
- No big toolbar icons, they have to be small
- No text with toolbar icons
- No tabs-on-bottom
- Bye-bye bookmarks and history sidebars
- Adios Stop button
- In fact adios any clear, decent-sized reload or stop buttons... now you have a tiny icon in the URLbar that changes function based on the state of the tab; bad design
- Can't move back/forward buttons away from the URLbar
- Can't create new toolbars
- Of the whopping 2 toolbars you get, you can't move the URLbar to the lower 'bookmarks' toolbar
Nope, there is only two options available: Télébec or no Internet at all.
Well, look on the bright side. At least it's all in Canadian French so you there's no reason to use your internet, you can't understand it. :-)
Intel now has a monopoly on the general-purpose CPU market. It's Intel or nothing. Could this be a problem with regards to price, and perhaps enforced DRM (if there's no competition Intel are able to dictate what DRM goes on the CPU)?