You really are clueless on this. Yes, it can be terraformed. Just not as easily as Mars but the benefits of doing so would be much greater.
I know you are not educated enough on the subject but yes, we have the basic technology to start the process now. But to really follow through we will need to be close to a Type 2 civilization. I'm sure you don't understand what Type 2 civilization means. Basically it means we are a space fairing civilization with most of our population off Earth.
If you are really interested in the subject start with looking up a Dyson Motor.
I can see where this would be possible but I'm just not seeing much benefit to it. Maybe some research stations but not whole cities.
I remember reading a paper on the same thing with cities in the atmosphere of gas giants. It would work on the same principles as you have outlined. I have my doubts that it would be feasible with the wind conditions on gas giants.
No, your not. The wiki page was just a start. There is volumes of ideal out there with workable plans. You're ether uneducated on the subject or just a trolling now.
Is this necessarily a bad thing? Just like most folks learn to accept that they won't live forever, maybe we just need to accept that our civilization and our species won't live forever?
I don't understand the logic behind this. Sure our species will cease to exist. It will do so in one of two ways. We will evolve into a more advanced species or we will go extinct. You act like you want to us to go extinct. What is the logic behind your thinking?
Yeah, I've determined you are not educated enough on this subject to continue this conversation. Come back when you have studied up.
An it would be on the surface after we terraformed it. No, I'm not going to tell you how to do it. We have crossed over into teaching a pig to sing. It only waste my time, with you being the pig.
Well you can take your chances. I see no reason to take chances with the species. We haven't been around for 4 billion years. We have been around, the most, for 250K years. We where almost driven to extinction a few thousand years ago by a volcanic event. There where an estimated 6,000 humans left on the planet after that event. That is pretty close to extinction for us.
Not spreading out when we have the technology is a joke. Like I have pointed out look up O'Neill colonies if you want to know where to go.
As for Venus. Yes it can be terraformed. It just takes more effort and eventually it can be made close to Earth.
No they don't. I've not seen where any one is talking about floating cities in the sky on Venus. There has been some talk of letting lose some floating balloons to study the planet. Which would actually work pretty well. JPL has proposed this to NASA. So that is pretty some sound science.
You know, you really have no clue what you are talking about do you? You call everyone else "anti-science" but seem to have no ideal that gravity can be simulated. I would suggest you spend some time reading up on subjects before commenting on them. Start with O'Neill Colonies and work out from there. Here is a link to get you started.
Next question, is what the hell are you talking about? Nobody has talked about floating cities on Venus in 50 years. Since we found out its a living hell and not a water world as was though.
I'm sitting here wondering what your logic is behind this. It really defies common sense to have this mind set. Sooner or later there will be a extinction level event that we will not be able to prevent. Logically, it doesn't make any sense to remain planet bound once we develop the technology to move off planet.
I agree that Mars isn't best place to spread too. Personally, I think we should focus our efforts on Venus. But staying planet bound is a death sentence for our civilization, if not our species, at some point.
Possible but the same is said for spinning HD too. I've rarely had a spinning HD last more than 5 years. Most of the die after about 2 to 3 years. As for SSD dying, the rate of death of SSD deaths are greatly exaggerated. Even under heavy use a SSD will usually out last the point where its obeisance. One of the best things about SSD is being solid state devices they have a better chance to tell you when they are going to die than a HDD does. I've only had one or two HDD tell me they are going to croak with the SMART report. Most of them just fall over and die.
How can this lead to better storage devices? The only thing I can think of is another way to coat platters in a spinning physical HD. The last time I checked spinning HD where on the way out.
I'm skeptical of bigfoot and maybe aliens. I'm not skeptical of anything this dingbat sponsors. I KNOW that nothing she sponsors will reach the House floor. This deal is dead before it had a chance.
You don't have to be a expert in anything to recognize her dingbattery. As more of her foolish ideal gets out the more of a fool she is. Here are things that the dingbat wants that will not happen.
She isn't going to get rid of fossil fuels in 10 years.
She isn't going to do away with any kind of air travel and replace it with high speed trains. As much as I would like to see this. I like trains.
She isn't going rebuild every building in the US to make it more energy efficient.
She isn't going to make the cows stop farting.
None of this is going to happen. Her new "green" deal will never make it to the Congress floor. This bullshit will never make it out of committee. An if for some reason both the house and senate both lose their collective mind and pass this bill, then Trump will never sign it.
Lets just go one step further and say Trump, for some reason I can't comprehend, was to sign it into law. Then the courts will strike it down before the ink is even dry.
But wait! Lets just say the courts go "okay dokey" to this bullshit. It is physically impossible to carry out her plan in the time frame her digbatness sets for it.
I cannot be done and it will not be done. An the fact that she or anyone that supports her can't see that makes them fools and her a dingbat.
Well I did google it. The first links that came up showed that wages are up, and that Nancy Pelosi is wrong. So yeah, we are doing better. Now you may be in the small percent that isn't doing better, but who's fault is that really?
I don't think you understand the damage she is doing. Trump isn't going to lose to any right wing Democrat.. He is going to win 2020 pretty easy. Crap like dingbat lady says is what helps him. Every foolish word she says drives more people over to Trump.
I believe most of us are better off than we where years before.
AOC is fighting
She needs to stop fighting an sit down and shut up. Every time she opens her mouth it just shows how clueless she really is. Calling her a dingbat is actually being kind to her. Her ideal are so insane that normal people look at her and think "this is what the democratic party is becoming." Trump is better than what she wants to do. Nobody believes anything she wants to do is remotely possible. Nobody takes her seriously. When she talks all she does is help to make sure Trump is re-elected in 2020
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You really are clueless on this. Yes, it can be terraformed. Just not as easily as Mars but the benefits of doing so would be much greater.
I know you are not educated enough on the subject but yes, we have the basic technology to start the process now. But to really follow through we will need to be close to a Type 2 civilization. I'm sure you don't understand what Type 2 civilization means. Basically it means we are a space fairing civilization with most of our population off Earth.
If you are really interested in the subject start with looking up a Dyson Motor.
I can see where this would be possible but I'm just not seeing much benefit to it. Maybe some research stations but not whole cities.
I remember reading a paper on the same thing with cities in the atmosphere of gas giants. It would work on the same principles as you have outlined. I have my doubts that it would be feasible with the wind conditions on gas giants.
No, your not. The wiki page was just a start. There is volumes of ideal out there with workable plans. You're ether uneducated on the subject or just a trolling now.
Is this necessarily a bad thing? Just like most folks learn to accept that they won't live forever, maybe we just need to accept that our civilization and our species won't live forever?
I don't understand the logic behind this. Sure our species will cease to exist. It will do so in one of two ways. We will evolve into a more advanced species or we will go extinct. You act like you want to us to go extinct. What is the logic behind your thinking?
Yeah, I've determined you are not educated enough on this subject to continue this conversation. Come back when you have studied up.
An it would be on the surface after we terraformed it. No, I'm not going to tell you how to do it. We have crossed over into teaching a pig to sing. It only waste my time, with you being the pig.
Well you can take your chances. I see no reason to take chances with the species. We haven't been around for 4 billion years. We have been around, the most, for 250K years. We where almost driven to extinction a few thousand years ago by a volcanic event. There where an estimated 6,000 humans left on the planet after that event. That is pretty close to extinction for us.
Not spreading out when we have the technology is a joke. Like I have pointed out look up O'Neill colonies if you want to know where to go.
As for Venus. Yes it can be terraformed. It just takes more effort and eventually it can be made close to Earth.
Good. Now that you are educated, you can have a meaningful and intelligent discussion on the subject.
No they don't. I've not seen where any one is talking about floating cities in the sky on Venus. There has been some talk of letting lose some floating balloons to study the planet. Which would actually work pretty well. JPL has proposed this to NASA. So that is pretty some sound science.
You know, you really have no clue what you are talking about do you? You call everyone else "anti-science" but seem to have no ideal that gravity can be simulated. I would suggest you spend some time reading up on subjects before commenting on them. Start with O'Neill Colonies and work out from there. Here is a link to get you started.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
Come back when you are better informed.
Next question, is what the hell are you talking about? Nobody has talked about floating cities on Venus in 50 years. Since we found out its a living hell and not a water world as was though.
No, the dumbest thing is to move off-earth.
I'm sitting here wondering what your logic is behind this. It really defies common sense to have this mind set. Sooner or later there will be a extinction level event that we will not be able to prevent. Logically, it doesn't make any sense to remain planet bound once we develop the technology to move off planet.
I agree that Mars isn't best place to spread too. Personally, I think we should focus our efforts on Venus. But staying planet bound is a death sentence for our civilization, if not our species, at some point.
Yeah. I read that it doesn't' do what I thought it would do.
Possible but the same is said for spinning HD too. I've rarely had a spinning HD last more than 5 years. Most of the die after about 2 to 3 years. As for SSD dying, the rate of death of SSD deaths are greatly exaggerated. Even under heavy use a SSD will usually out last the point where its obeisance. One of the best things about SSD is being solid state devices they have a better chance to tell you when they are going to die than a HDD does. I've only had one or two HDD tell me they are going to croak with the SMART report. Most of them just fall over and die.
How well does this software compare to Blender? Blender is difficult to use but is very good at what it does.
You have to have a license to have a dog. Why not a license to have a kid? The application should have some questions like.
There is ___ magical sky fairy?
The magical sky fairy will ___ save my kids?
Science ___ the magical sky fairy.
Some think like that?
Agreed. Something we both can agree on. There is a reason a group of baboons is called a congress.
How can this lead to better storage devices? The only thing I can think of is another way to coat platters in a spinning physical HD. The last time I checked spinning HD where on the way out.
I'm glad that Sprint is stepping up and taking this on. Under the current administration the FCC is less than useless.
I'm skeptical of bigfoot and maybe aliens. I'm not skeptical of anything this dingbat sponsors. I KNOW that nothing she sponsors will reach the House floor. This deal is dead before it had a chance.
Dingbat 0, Common sense 1
You don't have to be a expert in anything to recognize her dingbattery. As more of her foolish ideal gets out the more of a fool she is. Here are things that the dingbat wants that will not happen.
She isn't going to get rid of fossil fuels in 10 years.
She isn't going to do away with any kind of air travel and replace it with high speed trains. As much as I would like to see this. I like trains.
She isn't going rebuild every building in the US to make it more energy efficient.
She isn't going to make the cows stop farting.
None of this is going to happen. Her new "green" deal will never make it to the Congress floor. This bullshit will never make it out of committee. An if for some reason both the house and senate both lose their collective mind and pass this bill, then Trump will never sign it.
Lets just go one step further and say Trump, for some reason I can't comprehend, was to sign it into law. Then the courts will strike it down before the ink is even dry.
But wait! Lets just say the courts go "okay dokey" to this bullshit. It is physically impossible to carry out her plan in the time frame her digbatness sets for it.
I cannot be done and it will not be done. An the fact that she or anyone that supports her can't see that makes them fools and her a dingbat.
As a non-economist I would eat most economists for breakfast if it wasn't for the bad digestion which follows.
I usually find that most self appointed "experts" are pretty much not. . At least I have a much better understanding than the dingbat.
Well I did google it. The first links that came up showed that wages are up, and that Nancy Pelosi is wrong. So yeah, we are doing better. Now you may be in the small percent that isn't doing better, but who's fault is that really?
I don't think you understand the damage she is doing. Trump isn't going to lose to any right wing Democrat.. He is going to win 2020 pretty easy. Crap like dingbat lady says is what helps him. Every foolish word she says drives more people over to Trump.
So yes. Dingbat sit down, shut up.
I believe most of us are better off than we where years before.
AOC is fighting
She needs to stop fighting an sit down and shut up. Every time she opens her mouth it just shows how clueless she really is. Calling her a dingbat is actually being kind to her. Her ideal are so insane that normal people look at her and think "this is what the democratic party is becoming." Trump is better than what she wants to do. Nobody believes anything she wants to do is remotely possible. Nobody takes her seriously. When she talks all she does is help to make sure Trump is re-elected in 2020
Looks like I pissed a bunch of dingbat lovers off. Oh well, her supporters tend to be just as dumb as she is.
She is a dingbat, and Bush Jr was a dumbass.