OK Pioneer is dying from whatever I read it appears the problem is the signal to noise ratio is too low.
Perhaps all you amateurs with radio telescopes out there should ask NASA nicely (through whatever an organisation preferably) for the frequency and lcoation data that is not publicly available and do a big combined search.
Do you have procedures/software for doing VLBI? It would be a good project to do build it around if you do not already.
A few hours a day or days a month and you might still get some useful data from it.
If they had to use it themselves how come they got nowhere near the crashes I get? Maybe because they didn't actually use it to do hard work, use lots of app's from different sources, not enough memory (as I work for a stingy organisation) and they do everything the MS way.
When IE (5.5xxx SP2) crashes (am using NT4.0) - it takes out something and leaves my system barely usable - just enough to shutdown and restart - sometimes.
I think there testing needs to be a damn sight harder.
Why Mars - not much atmosphere or solar radiation?
Just for the challenge?
I think a more practical alternative to Mars is Venus. Plenty of solar radiation, atmosphere (lots) and closer to Earth than Mars.
Ok - so the atmosphere is hot, high pressured and toxic. Isn't that what bio-tech should be for? Breed some bugs (make it sound easy don't I?) to do the dirty work (turn the noxious stuff into solids so it drops from the atmosphere), land and conquer.
Major problem is that Venus may well be geologically active in a major way (cooling core could be causing slabs of crust to drop - 50km*50km type size dropping ~1km down - this is a possible explanation for some of the possible recent resurfacing events on the Venusian crust).
Venus is easier once you tame the atmosphere, you can make an atmosphere on Mars but it will still bleed off as the rock is too small. So if you take 1000 years to make Mars work, in ten times that long you will have to have Plan B for the atmosphere working.
IBM will do nothing. The beast may be hard to stir (though not necessarily on IP issues), but real tough to stop.
I see much talk about how costly to defend etc, and how the Mono et al people will not be able to do much about Microsoft if it slaps them with a patent.
I have not seen anyone mention what IBM will think of this. You think there is nothing in there patent library about any of this? SNA/SAA comes to mind - but this was maybe just copyrighted no patented - IANAPL.
With what % of there PROFIT coming from web services you think IBM won't challenge anything that may screw them up in the future. Unless MS puts it out royalty free (a defensive patent) as some have suggested I think IBM will be Mono's friend.
Can I get control of some of these old sats?
I want at least two for a business proposition.
1) get control of old sat
2) fill memory with banking data and open first bank without national rules
3) Profit!
The Iridium network would have been good, thought about trying to get the banks to take it use it that way when they had control (for a small (=0.1%) of the ownership). But did not have enough contacts in the banking industry.
Yeah radiation and data loss is a problem (which is why Iridium would have been good), whioch is why you need at at least two, and maybe a disused oil platform in international water as a ground side backup.
If you have seen a pic of little Johnnie you would know why no-one in their right mind (/.'s naturally excluded?) would do this.
Almost made me physically sick to even think of it. It wouldn't even be funny.
Also Oz has some nasty defamation laws with the PM's legal bill paid for taxpayers.
Need another beer now.
Also I have already submittedmy entry - $100 will buy me a decent nex linux book with distro.
For the record my bet is johnhoward@johnhowardmp.com. johnhowardmp.com is where his electoral website is hosted. Can't be sure as I am not expecting a return email.
It is bad 4 confirmed dead, hundreds inured, hundreds of houses gone, loss of electricty gas water and possibly sewrage.
I used to study, live and work in Canberra. Will make some calls tomorrow if things have settled down and see if some people are OK.
What is really going to piss me off is not just the immediate loss of the Stromlo facilities. With the ignorant dullards in politics (who think the internet is just a rumour mill and debaucher of children) and basic research is something other countries do. Stromlo will not be rebuilt - maybe it shouldn't where it is now located. But there is a very good chance the funding that should go to rebuilding it from the Federal budget, will instead be allocated elsewhere. Even if the ANU has insured the facilties, there is no guarantee that the small scale but important work being done - eg real research of long term value and training (optical) astronomers, will continue. Sidings Springs will continue and get students (nowhere else to do study) but it could be the death of professional optical astronomy in Australia. Yes, other universities have some courses and facilties, but not the reach and depth of what went on at ANU.
As the astronomy was not world scale and has no obvious industrial sponsor to benefit form the research, those valuable tax dollars will probably be allocated elsewhere. And as every other country reaches for the stars, Australian students will be learning how to look up a sheep, pig or cows' bum. Don't forget this is the government that does not want to know (ie fund to look IIRC AUD2m/year or less) about any asteroid looking to renovate the South Hemisphere.
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Some fun stuff - the detectors (stories tall)are essentially front ends to circuits that need to sort and detect events happening at a significant fraction of c, discriminate between crap (eg cosmic ray events and glancing hits) and what they were aiming for (collisions).
"The next round of RHIC experiments will have larger data volumes per event and larger event rates... in each case, about an order of magnitude greater than the present values. This is similar to the environment faced by the LHC ALICE detector. As a base model, it is assumed that the upgraded RHIC detectors will record ~1MB/event; the Level-0 triggers will accept events at a rate of 25 KHz; and that data can be archived at a rate of 250 MB/sec."
So you before you can say not much remember these are circuits weighing tons a hundred+ feet tall that need to be synchronised with the collisions in the beam, amazingly reliable and put up with a large amount of abuse (hard radiation when it leaks from the guts of the device).
If all your viewing devices were DRM enabled then the exact audience of Farscape (and the rest) could be known.
The writers may even find out that type "342" viewers prefer sex scenes with strange aliens to those with the regular crew members.
The advertising revenue would go up when they realised that ads for computers, cell phones and singles services worked, but that female hygiene products were ignored.
You would then get shows the advertisers think you wanted at times that suited you.
Wow.
However, even if every TV etc was magically DRM enabled with a feedback path, do you think TV execs are smart enough to use the data?
How many different XBaox games are there? One list shows 150.
Would comparing the bit images of these give a bust? It should narrow the search because what you are looking for is a common factor in all of them. Unfortunately I am not sure this would work as the algorithm (iirc) is not just a straight multiply.
But it would be a practial place to start if you were serious rather than trying to brute force it.
The best device I know of for turning data into information is the human visual cortex. Forget AI use HI (Human Intelligence).
The trick is to reduce the vast amount of data to something that can be scanned at a glance.
Typically produce a list of relevant items (eg by grabbing the doc ids based on keywords from the source data), sorting by most relevant (the scoring system). So if three keywords match in a single doc, score it high. If those three keywords appear in another doc, score both high and set the both flag. The sorted list from high score to low is then scanned. Experience soon tells you if your scoring system is working. The list you now have (electronically hopefully), has links to the original docs, the anlayst then clicks and reads. If relevant - act. If not, go to next item.
I vote that the war with iraq is delayed one day and the money put aside to designing a 500 AU mission probe and quite possibly going a long way to building the sucker. You need another few days of the war budget to launch the sucker.
A 500 AU misison probe is designed to use the Sun as gravitational lens and at 500 AU visible light should be focused. Do a google search to turn up real detail on this.
Then have a good long look at some the candidate systems.
I keep telling people - don't use Hotmail, the interface sucked last time I used it, wants you to use Passport before you can logon and seems to spend a lot of time down and generally unreliable (the EULA specifically said last time I read it) there is no guarantee of anything being there or anything working.
However, for a terrorist or other undeisrable it seems perferct - no backups. None. Zilch. Zero.
No way to recover from any failure other than rebuilding the file system where it was (IIRC from the last time Hotmail imploded). If it is still there you get lucky and the app can read your mail and you can get it, other than that you are dead.
spacedaily.com is actually having a small holiday over Xmas/New Year
I like the daily email - by section - mil, satellite, launches, etc - with url so you can easily pick what you want to read. Also at bottom is a list of last weeks stories so if you miss or delete an email you can find it sort of easy in the next week. Some popups to keep them alive but that is life.
Just so you know - The Age is an old and venerable institution in Australia (been round 100 or so years) as a "quality" broadsheet. It is based in Melbourne Australia.
Now in the Murdoch stable (part of news corp_ is still does a reasonable job of annoying politicians of all persuasions and beuaracrats, as well as having excellent cricket reporting. It has a reputation as a bit left-wing (I think it was more from being an agitator in a conservative country) but that has slided a bit with Murdoch ownership.
Having your own people use your own equipment is no good if someone you don't trust - and who do the Chinese military/security agencies trust - has designed it and you cannot know if the chip will blab on you.
1) there sense of humour is lame 2) there idea of fun is warped 3) if they were engineering students they would well have directed the shredded output to a mini incinerator and used this to a run a cooling pump - this is also more secure (ask the Iranians). 4) they did a half assed job to make it work and expect to get rewarded (are they on MS scholarships?)
Yeah technology test witht his flight and then the money mission to the moon for mapping and all that.
The real mission - slam Trailblazer probe into Moon while beaming back video of it. The big questions - where can I sign up for a live feed and what music should be played over the final broadcast?
Isn't this is what technology should be about - making bucks and improving the quality of life and learning new stuff as well? Yeah the Moon is goinmg to get bit more banged up and a bit polluted. But really nothing compared to what the first tour bus of tourists will do to it.
It was in the article I read -
a diode was stuffed so they ran current backward through a large number of times until it reannealed
"problem to a light-emitting diode in the electronics controlling the motor drive, "
"
The recovery was achieved by running a current through the damaged diode to anneal, or repair, radiation-caused damage. The first annealing attempt of six hours produced barely discernible improvement. Three additional treatments, for a total of 83 more hours of annealing treatment, produced progressive improvements, to the point that the tape recorder can run for about an hour at a time. A fifth treatment produced no additional gain. However, normal playback runs the tape recorder for only a few minutes at a time, so the improvement appears sufficient, said JPL engineer Greg Levanas, who helped plot the recovery strategy. "
http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/galileo/news/release/press 021217.html
>The pattern does not seem to
Does not seem is my point.
Yes Planet X is an off chance. However the tracking data is spotty enough from all the probes that it can't be directly eliminated yet either.
All the probes "felt" a sunward acceleration.
If a largish planet at a multiple of Pluto radii is well off the ecliptic - the orbit will be very slow and if it is "overhead" - above the inner solar system, it would have been there for quite a few years, much longer than the probe data would let you see.
With no convincing evidence for a PPN (parameterised post-newtonian) gravity and some of the other crap I have seen spouted (not on Slashdot! but by supposedly reputable people), slice, I still think the simplest answer is best until eliminated.
>written by the very guy
There are actually a number of these from respectable to whacko
The Pluto Express and possible 500 AU mission(s) - such a brilliant idea why is it not being built - would provide a great opportunity to test it.
The fact that a number of observed Kuiper belt objects have also had their orbits pulled out of the ecliptic also begs for an explanation.
Why modify newton/einstein when a single plausible physical object would do both jobs?
If you have not checked out what the 500 AU mission(s) are about - do so. If you can't find anything email me and I will email back some links.
The other post I made has a URL that brings up a number of articles from 2001 about this stuff. gr-qc 0107022 is recentish article by the original authors with plenty of detail.
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OK Pioneer is dying from whatever I read it appears the problem is the signal to noise ratio is too low.
Perhaps all you amateurs with radio telescopes out there should ask NASA nicely (through whatever an organisation preferably) for the frequency and lcoation data that is not publicly available and do a big combined search.
Do you have procedures/software for doing VLBI? It would be a good project to do build it around if you do not already.
A few hours a day or days a month and you might still get some useful data from it.
If they had to use it themselves how come they got nowhere near the crashes I get? Maybe because they didn't actually use it to do hard work, use lots of app's from different sources, not enough memory (as I work for a stingy organisation) and they do everything the MS way. When IE (5.5xxx SP2) crashes (am using NT4.0) - it takes out something and leaves my system barely usable - just enough to shutdown and restart - sometimes. I think there testing needs to be a damn sight harder.
Why Mars - not much atmosphere or solar radiation?
Just for the challenge?
I think a more practical alternative to Mars is Venus. Plenty of solar radiation, atmosphere (lots) and closer to Earth than Mars.
Ok - so the atmosphere is hot, high pressured and toxic. Isn't that what bio-tech should be for? Breed some bugs (make it sound easy don't I?) to do the dirty work (turn the noxious stuff into solids so it drops from the atmosphere), land and conquer.
Major problem is that Venus may well be geologically active in a major way (cooling core could be causing slabs of crust to drop - 50km*50km type size dropping ~1km down - this is a possible explanation for some of the possible recent resurfacing events on the Venusian crust).
Venus is easier once you tame the atmosphere, you can make an atmosphere on Mars but it will still bleed off as the rock is too small. So if you take 1000 years to make Mars work, in ten times that long you will have to have Plan B for the atmosphere working.
IBM will do nothing. The beast may be hard to stir (though not necessarily on IP issues), but real tough to stop.
I see much talk about how costly to defend etc, and how the Mono et al people will not be able to do much about Microsoft if it slaps them with a patent.
I have not seen anyone mention what IBM will think of this. You think there is nothing in there patent library about any of this? SNA/SAA comes to mind - but this was maybe just copyrighted no patented - IANAPL.
With what % of there PROFIT coming from web services you think IBM won't challenge anything that may screw them up in the future. Unless MS puts it out royalty free (a defensive patent) as some have suggested I think IBM will be Mono's friend.
Stallman's a lawyer? GPL is his baby? Tell him.
Can I get control of some of these old sats? I want at least two for a business proposition. 1) get control of old sat 2) fill memory with banking data and open first bank without national rules 3) Profit! The Iridium network would have been good, thought about trying to get the banks to take it use it that way when they had control (for a small (=0.1%) of the ownership). But did not have enough contacts in the banking industry. Yeah radiation and data loss is a problem (which is why Iridium would have been good), whioch is why you need at at least two, and maybe a disused oil platform in international water as a ground side backup.
If you have seen a pic of little Johnnie you would know why no-one in their right mind (/.'s naturally excluded?) would do this. Almost made me physically sick to even think of it. It wouldn't even be funny. Also Oz has some nasty defamation laws with the PM's legal bill paid for taxpayers. Need another beer now. Also I have already submittedmy entry - $100 will buy me a decent nex linux book with distro. For the record my bet is johnhoward@johnhowardmp.com. johnhowardmp.com is where his electoral website is hosted. Can't be sure as I am not expecting a return email.
If Blackmountain goes up - all bets will be off on the safety of ANU.
It is bad 4 confirmed dead, hundreds inured, hundreds of houses gone, loss of electricty gas water and possibly sewrage. I used to study, live and work in Canberra. Will make some calls tomorrow if things have settled down and see if some people are OK. What is really going to piss me off is not just the immediate loss of the Stromlo facilities. With the ignorant dullards in politics (who think the internet is just a rumour mill and debaucher of children) and basic research is something other countries do. Stromlo will not be rebuilt - maybe it shouldn't where it is now located. But there is a very good chance the funding that should go to rebuilding it from the Federal budget, will instead be allocated elsewhere. Even if the ANU has insured the facilties, there is no guarantee that the small scale but important work being done - eg real research of long term value and training (optical) astronomers, will continue. Sidings Springs will continue and get students (nowhere else to do study) but it could be the death of professional optical astronomy in Australia. Yes, other universities have some courses and facilties, but not the reach and depth of what went on at ANU. As the astronomy was not world scale and has no obvious industrial sponsor to benefit form the research, those valuable tax dollars will probably be allocated elsewhere. And as every other country reaches for the stars, Australian students will be learning how to look up a sheep, pig or cows' bum. Don't forget this is the government that does not want to know (ie fund to look IIRC AUD2m/year or less) about any asteroid looking to renovate the South Hemisphere.
Extra URLs you would have seen if I was posted :-(
p ://www.star.bnl.gov/STAR/rhicworkshop/final-wo rk.pdf
http://www.star.bnl.gov/STAR/rhicworkshop/
htt
Some fun stuff - the detectors (stories tall)are essentially front ends to circuits that need to sort and detect events happening at a significant fraction of c, discriminate between crap (eg cosmic ray events and glancing hits) and what they were aiming for (collisions).
"The next round of RHIC experiments will have larger data volumes per event and
larger event rates... in each case, about an order of magnitude greater than the present
values. This is similar to the environment faced by the LHC ALICE detector. As a base
model, it is assumed that the upgraded RHIC detectors will record ~1MB/event; the
Level-0 triggers will accept events at a rate of 25 KHz; and that data can be archived at a
rate of 250 MB/sec."
So you before you can say not much remember these are circuits weighing tons a hundred+ feet tall that need to be synchronised with the collisions in the beam, amazingly reliable and put up with a large amount of abuse (hard radiation when it leaks from the guts of the device).
If all your viewing devices were DRM enabled then the exact audience of Farscape (and the rest) could be known. The writers may even find out that type "342" viewers prefer sex scenes with strange aliens to those with the regular crew members. The advertising revenue would go up when they realised that ads for computers, cell phones and singles services worked, but that female hygiene products were ignored. You would then get shows the advertisers think you wanted at times that suited you. Wow. However, even if every TV etc was magically DRM enabled with a feedback path, do you think TV execs are smart enough to use the data?
How many different XBaox games are there? One list shows 150. Would comparing the bit images of these give a bust? It should narrow the search because what you are looking for is a common factor in all of them. Unfortunately I am not sure this would work as the algorithm (iirc) is not just a straight multiply. But it would be a practial place to start if you were serious rather than trying to brute force it.
The best device I know of for turning data into information is the human visual cortex. Forget AI use HI (Human Intelligence).
The trick is to reduce the vast amount of data to something that can be scanned at a glance.
Typically produce a list of relevant items (eg by grabbing the doc ids based on keywords from the source data), sorting by most relevant (the scoring system). So if three keywords match in a single doc, score it high. If those three keywords appear in another doc, score both high and set the both flag. The sorted list from high score to low is then scanned. Experience soon tells you if your scoring system is working. The list you now have (electronically hopefully), has links to the original docs, the anlayst then clicks and reads. If relevant - act. If not, go to next item.
I vote that the war with iraq is delayed one day and the money put aside to designing a 500 AU mission probe and quite possibly going a long way to building the sucker. You need another few days of the war budget to launch the sucker.
A 500 AU misison probe is designed to use the Sun as gravitational lens and at 500 AU visible light should be focused. Do a google search to turn up real detail on this.
Then have a good long look at some the candidate systems.
I keep telling people - don't use Hotmail, the interface sucked last time I used it, wants you to use Passport before you can logon and seems to spend a lot of time down and generally unreliable (the EULA specifically said last time I read it) there is no guarantee of anything being there or anything working. However, for a terrorist or other undeisrable it seems perferct - no backups. None. Zilch. Zero. No way to recover from any failure other than rebuilding the file system where it was (IIRC from the last time Hotmail imploded). If it is still there you get lucky and the app can read your mail and you can get it, other than that you are dead.
spacedaily.com is actually having a small holiday over Xmas/New Year I like the daily email - by section - mil, satellite, launches, etc - with url so you can easily pick what you want to read. Also at bottom is a list of last weeks stories so if you miss or delete an email you can find it sort of easy in the next week. Some popups to keep them alive but that is life.
Apologies and thanks for correcting me
Just so you know - The Age is an old and venerable institution in Australia (been round 100 or so years) as a "quality" broadsheet. It is based in Melbourne Australia.
Now in the Murdoch stable (part of news corp_ is still does a reasonable job of annoying politicians of all persuasions and beuaracrats, as well as having excellent cricket reporting. It has a reputation as a bit left-wing (I think it was more from being an agitator in a conservative country) but that has slided a bit with Murdoch ownership.
It's the design the matters.
Having your own people use your own equipment is no good if someone you don't trust - and who do the Chinese military/security agencies trust - has designed it and you cannot know if the chip will blab on you.
1) there sense of humour is lame
2) there idea of fun is warped
3) if they were engineering students they would well have directed the shredded output to a mini incinerator and used this to a run a cooling pump - this is also more secure (ask the Iranians).
4) they did a half assed job to make it work and expect to get rewarded (are they on MS scholarships?)
Yeah technology test witht his flight and then the money mission to the moon for mapping and all that. The real mission - slam Trailblazer probe into Moon while beaming back video of it. The big questions - where can I sign up for a live feed and what music should be played over the final broadcast? Isn't this is what technology should be about - making bucks and improving the quality of life and learning new stuff as well? Yeah the Moon is goinmg to get bit more banged up and a bit polluted. But really nothing compared to what the first tour bus of tourists will do to it.
yes it works and I am running Mozilla 1.2.1 Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win95; en-US; rv:1.2.1) Gecko/20021130
> I'm tired of nations who just blame, blame, blame > and don't accept even a modicum of responsiblity.
The French come to anyone else's mind beside mine?
It was in the article I read - a diode was stuffed so they ran current backward through a large number of times until it reannealed "problem to a light-emitting diode in the electronics controlling the motor drive, " " The recovery was achieved by running a current through the damaged diode to anneal, or repair, radiation-caused damage. The first annealing attempt of six hours produced barely discernible improvement. Three additional treatments, for a total of 83 more hours of annealing treatment, produced progressive improvements, to the point that the tape recorder can run for about an hour at a time. A fifth treatment produced no additional gain. However, normal playback runs the tape recorder for only a few minutes at a time, so the improvement appears sufficient, said JPL engineer Greg Levanas, who helped plot the recovery strategy. " http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/galileo/news/release/press 021217.html
>The pattern does not seem to Does not seem is my point. Yes Planet X is an off chance. However the tracking data is spotty enough from all the probes that it can't be directly eliminated yet either. All the probes "felt" a sunward acceleration. If a largish planet at a multiple of Pluto radii is well off the ecliptic - the orbit will be very slow and if it is "overhead" - above the inner solar system, it would have been there for quite a few years, much longer than the probe data would let you see. With no convincing evidence for a PPN (parameterised post-newtonian) gravity and some of the other crap I have seen spouted (not on Slashdot! but by supposedly reputable people), slice, I still think the simplest answer is best until eliminated. >written by the very guy There are actually a number of these from respectable to whacko The Pluto Express and possible 500 AU mission(s) - such a brilliant idea why is it not being built - would provide a great opportunity to test it. The fact that a number of observed Kuiper belt objects have also had their orbits pulled out of the ecliptic also begs for an explanation. Why modify newton/einstein when a single plausible physical object would do both jobs? If you have not checked out what the 500 AU mission(s) are about - do so. If you can't find anything email me and I will email back some links. The other post I made has a URL that brings up a number of articles from 2001 about this stuff. gr-qc 0107022 is recentish article by the original authors with plenty of detail.