...this is why many people advocate public funding of political campaigns. There is the free speach argument...but I hear they are making weapons out of high-enegry sound waves...like anything...where do you draw the line.
So I guess if MS decides, in the future, to replace the Start button with something else...we should go to court stop them because it would leave us all dazed and confused? And how about all of those poor confused Mac users wandering the halls - who cares about them? On top of that, perhaps we should sue MS for confusing AOL users with MSN.
Bottom line - Gates is like Landru from the original Star Trek. When posed with the observation that without creativity, the "body" dies Landru replied that creativity continues but is reserved for him.
...has tons of stuff laying out the fact that Gates is quoted as saying the he does not believe that MS can compete selling non-os software products unless they are tied to Windows in ways that the competition can not replicate - presumably because they DO NOT HAVE THE OS SOURCE. It's in the book in black and white...a friggin quote from Gates himself. MS business strategy is to exploit their monopoly. So they are guilty of that. Now we are hearing the "Monopolists Defense" that this is a natural monopoly and that their monopoly is a good thing. This is amusing as it is EXACTLY what Marx said Capitalism would lead to.
...If you consider the fact the MS is shipping software that is ONLY NOW being reviewed for security....well that seems to qualify as a late project.
Perhaps these security issues at MS can be attributed to the failed strategy of attempting to develop networked (server) software with development techniques barely sufficient for stand-alone desktop PC apps. I recall a periodical produced by Yourdon called "The guerilla programmer" where he studied software development techniques at MS. He suggested the term "good enough software" indicating that it was ok to ship software with bugs - especially if doing so got you to market ahead of your competition. That was back in the mid 90's...interesting that only now is MS catching on that multiuser networked applications are not just scaled-up versions of Notepad!
It's a pity that certain political factions like to lionize Microsoft as bastions of capitalism when Microsoft is itself devoted to strangling the free market at every turn.
There is no benefit to be gained from Capitalism alone. The benefit is gained from the struggle/balance between two opposing forces, buyers and sellers. They are opposing because each is trying to wipe out the other. Buyers want to maximize the "value" of the product they buy and minimize the price. Taken to its logical extreme, that means the value is infinity and the price is zero. Sellers want to maximize the price they can charge and minimize the cost of production. Taken to its logical extreme that means the price is infinity and the cost of production is zero.
The "benefit" of Capitalism occurs when these two opposing forces stand in relationship to each other in a manner "we" find pleasing.
The problem then is not that they are necessarily bad Capitalists, but rather, they are terrible members of our community. The answer is found in the problem known as the "Prisoners Dillema."
...restrained from exploiting their monopoly...the PC vendors can install openoffice, java, Perl, Mozilla on EVERY PC that they ship....that might give us a base to start with. Perhaps the XML file formats will become the basic document exchange standard...
I think this discussion illustrates the effect of IBM opening up the PC architecture. Even then, I still remember the TI PC, the tandy 2000, etc. They had incompatible graphics and sound etc. and writing software that ran on all of them was pretty difficult and expensive.
Around 1989 I started working with Smalltalk 80. It had a IDE, robust object model for application development, and could be deployed on MSDOS (with a mouse), Windows, Macintosh, Unix (Sun, Apollo, etc)
If history had been a little different, Smalltalk could have enabled us to maintain more hardware and OS diversity than we have now. I wonder how these hand held devices will go? .
In your view, the society moves forward as a side affect of individuals pursuing BIG MONEY. I suspect that if you do some reading on just who are the people who create innovative technology you will find that they are people motivated only partly by money but much more for having a burning desire for the subject area they are addressing. BIG MONEY is made by those who can take other people's innovations and market them. Frequently, the winner is as much politically connected as they are financially astute. What motivates open source developers is the burning desire to "make a difference" in some way...in the area they care about - programming and software development. How about this, we won't worry about the "starving programmers" of the world if you stop worring about the "starving Billionaires" of the workd.
...because ALL aspects of steel production in the major countries we compete with are heavily subsidized by their governments. This includes the cost of coke, worker health care, lowered environmental impact costs (allowed to pollute), subsidized transportation,...you name it. And on top of that, they still sell the steel at a lower price than it costs to make it. And their government targets specific steel markets in the US that they wish to undermine....like the cold-rolled steel and armour plate. The steel capacity in the US now has already been severely injured. Hell, we could not currently produce all of the steel required to rebuild the World Trade Center.
...and I love how the orig. poster lays down a plan for the average windows user to go pawing through their system folders looking for odd file extensions and deleteing the file...Like that's gonna happen...They claim that windows is easy to use...I guess that's true until you try to protect your privacy. Then it's prowling the system folders and deleting goofey files...and if the average joe screws up doing that...ka-boom....
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Yo pal...remember this...a fool with a tool is still a fool.....
When they are little we should be reading to them....in an animated style. When they are a little older we should be taking them to the library. When they are teenagers, we should be bribing them with cash. Whatever it takes.
Java mind share is already too entrenched on the server. Why choose a programming language like C# that locks you into a wintel server configuration? Java allows for many more options - mainframe/linux, intel/linux, Sun/Solaris, HP/HPUX/Linux, Intel/Windows, Hell, Apple/OSX servers for that matter. And after the fiasco MS created this summer forcing business to upgrade with a gun to their head... well that was the eye-opener that cinched the deal. Load on top of that all of the security problems and the callous way MS handles them...well you may be amused, but I don't think the rest of the world is.
...you pay for the requirements analysis and systems analysis. When a problem is so well understood that a band of good-natured coders can create something way better and give it away...then time to take your profits and come up with somthing else. Read "No Silver Bullet". Of course, Apache is the exception that makes the rule since it was always free...
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...this is why many people advocate public funding of political campaigns. There is the free speach argument...but I hear they are making weapons out of high-enegry sound waves...like anything...where do you draw the line.
Wouldn't it be cheaper to just stage another Coup? You know...while "the boys" are still in the neighborhood...
So I guess if MS decides, in the future, to replace the Start button with something else...we should go to court stop them because it would leave us all dazed and confused? And how about all of those poor confused Mac users wandering the halls - who cares about them? On top of that, perhaps we should sue MS for confusing AOL users with MSN.
Bottom line - Gates is like Landru from the original Star Trek. When posed with the observation that without creativity, the "body" dies Landru replied that creativity continues but is reserved for him.
...has tons of stuff laying out the fact that Gates is quoted as saying the he does not believe that MS can compete selling non-os software products unless they are tied to Windows in ways that the competition can not replicate - presumably because they DO NOT HAVE THE OS SOURCE. It's in the book in black and white...a friggin quote from Gates himself. MS business strategy is to exploit their monopoly. So they are guilty of that. Now we are hearing the "Monopolists Defense" that this is a natural monopoly and that their monopoly is a good thing. This is amusing as it is EXACTLY what Marx said Capitalism would lead to.
...stealing from a criminal preditory monopoly isn't right! Criminals have rights too.....
Hook-em Horns !!!!!
...If you consider the fact the MS is shipping software that is ONLY NOW being reviewed for security....well that seems to qualify as a late project.
Perhaps these security issues at MS can be attributed to the failed strategy of attempting to develop networked (server) software with development techniques barely sufficient for stand-alone desktop PC apps. I recall a periodical produced by Yourdon called "The guerilla programmer" where he studied software development techniques at MS. He suggested the term "good enough software" indicating that it was ok to ship software with bugs - especially if doing so got you to market ahead of your competition. That was back in the mid 90's...interesting that only now is MS catching on that multiuser networked applications are not just scaled-up versions of Notepad!
It's a pity that certain political factions like to lionize Microsoft as bastions of capitalism when Microsoft is itself devoted to strangling the free market at every turn.
There is no benefit to be gained from Capitalism alone. The benefit is gained from the struggle/balance between two opposing forces, buyers and sellers. They are opposing because each is trying to wipe out the other. Buyers want to maximize the "value" of the product they buy and minimize the price. Taken to its logical extreme, that means the value is infinity and the price is zero. Sellers want to maximize the price they can charge and minimize the cost of production. Taken to its logical extreme that means the price is infinity and the cost of production is zero.
The "benefit" of Capitalism occurs when these two opposing forces stand in relationship to each other in a manner "we" find pleasing.
The problem then is not that they are necessarily bad Capitalists, but rather, they are terrible members of our community. The answer is found in the problem known as the "Prisoners Dillema."
...guess they would be clean hippies....
...restrained from exploiting their monopoly...the PC vendors can install openoffice, java, Perl, Mozilla on EVERY PC that they ship....that might give us a base to start with. Perhaps the XML file formats will become the basic document exchange standard...
...and he thinks his customers are too.
Around 1989 I started working with Smalltalk 80. It had a IDE, robust object model for application development, and could be deployed on MSDOS (with a mouse), Windows, Macintosh, Unix (Sun, Apollo, etc)
If history had been a little different, Smalltalk could have enabled us to maintain more hardware and OS diversity than we have now. I wonder how these hand held devices will go? .
In your view, the society moves forward as a side affect of individuals pursuing BIG MONEY. I suspect that if you do some reading on just who are the people who create innovative technology you will find that they are people motivated only partly by money but much more for having a burning desire for the subject area they are addressing. BIG MONEY is made by those who can take other people's innovations and market them. Frequently, the winner is as much politically connected as they are financially astute. What motivates open source developers is the burning desire to "make a difference" in some way...in the area they care about - programming and software development. How about this, we won't worry about the "starving programmers" of the world if you stop worring about the "starving Billionaires" of the workd.
...how exactly does one brainwash GWB?
...because ALL aspects of steel production in the major countries we compete with are heavily subsidized by their governments. This includes the cost of coke, worker health care, lowered environmental impact costs (allowed to pollute), subsidized transportation, ...you name it. And on top of that, they still sell the steel at a lower price than it costs to make it. And their government targets specific steel markets in the US that they wish to undermine....like the cold-rolled steel and armour plate. The steel capacity in the US now has already been severely injured. Hell, we could not currently produce all of the steel required to rebuild the World Trade Center.
...burmashave
...sure he curses a lot....but he seems to hate all the same people and institutions I do. He's sort of angry/loveable...
...scares me, it's what Crazy Bill does. Innovation vs. Strategy...one thing leads to another.
...he..hehehe...hehe
...and I love how the orig. poster lays down a plan for the average windows user to go pawing through their system folders looking for odd file extensions and deleteing the file...Like that's gonna happen...They claim that windows is easy to use...I guess that's true until you try to protect your privacy. Then it's prowling the system folders and deleting goofey files...and if the average joe screws up doing that...ka-boom....
....your forehead or your foreskin.....
When they are little we should be reading to them....in an animated style. When they are a little older we should be taking them to the library. When they are teenagers, we should be bribing them with cash. Whatever it takes.
Java mind share is already too entrenched on the server. Why choose a programming language like C# that locks you into a wintel server configuration? Java allows for many more options - mainframe/linux, intel/linux, Sun/Solaris, HP/HPUX/Linux, Intel/Windows, Hell, Apple/OSX servers for that matter. And after the fiasco MS created this summer forcing business to upgrade with a gun to their head... well that was the eye-opener that cinched the deal. Load on top of that all of the security problems and the callous way MS handles them...well you may be amused, but I don't think the rest of the world is.
...you pay for the requirements analysis and systems analysis. When a problem is so well understood that a band of good-natured coders can create something way better and give it away...then time to take your profits and come up with somthing else. Read "No Silver Bullet". Of course, Apache is the exception that makes the rule since it was always free...