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Windows 'Longhorn' Kicks Off (On Paper)
gdeciantis writes: "NeoWin.net posted an article which outlines some of the new features that are currently planned for the the next version of Windows (codenamed Longhorn). With new features like seamless content transfer across devices, it looks like Longhorn will not just be Windows XP SE."
Here's the link to it Just click here!
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Thanks to xStainDx for the heads up in BPN on our forums.
He has found some documentation on Windows Codenamed Longhorn, the new Windows planned to follow XP. Microsoft have been keeping mum about this, not letting on if Longhorn will be XPSE (read: Second Edition) or a major upgrade and advancement.
We can reveal today that there will be some major advancements in compliance and driver support for Longhorn with an addition to securing the OS and making it more central to the home PC. For example: Taken from h3-longhorn_preview_winhec.doc
ADVANCES: Broadcast and video components meet reliability and stability requirements
New built-in driver support is being planned for Windows Longhorn. Support planned at this time includes a new class driver for USB video cameras.
Proposed requirements include the following:
For any device that provides end-user capabilities for transfer of digital content, expose the device schema so that Windows can support seamless content transfer.
The device and driver must ensure a minimum level of propagation and persistence of device or content metadata.
The DirectX Video Acceleration (DirectX VA) API must be used if the hardware supports acceleration of MPEG-2 decode with motion compensation, iDCT, or VLD.
Video that is interlaced must be de-interlaced using the DirectX VA and Direct3D 9 APIs for video.
The components must be capable of rendering video with the Microsoft DirectShow Video Mixing Renderer using DirectX 9 Direct3D.
and also discussed is:
NEW: "Mira" device, if implemented, meets stability, reliability, and compatibility requirements
Proposed requirements for "Mira" devices are TBD
Blah Blah Blah.
I guess this means we get to see another video clip of the Microsoft CEO stamping around on stage screaming. This time in a cowboy hat and boots of course. I wonder if they'll hand out temp tattoos that look like cow brands with the MS logo?
"Have you ever thought about just turning off the TV, sitting down with your kids, and hitting them?"
yay! another oportunity to have a whole bunch of threads bashing microsoft...
*cough* NTFS is journalled already...
Notepad upgrade.
Will we ever see a better text editor come with the os?
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Nothing of interest there for me. He who agrees, mod up?
Seriously - give us something interesting to read about Microsoft, instead of some crappy forum post.
Conversion Rate Optimisation French / English consultant
..No more code names like HailStorm for these guys. Expect names like PuppyTail, SnuggleBear and ComfyHat from now on.
"A microprocessor... is a terrible thing to waste." --
GeneralEmergency
I really, really hate that they are using that name.
I pulled a jack move to cop this sig
From: http://www.microsoft.com/winlogo/hardware/HWrequir ements.asp
.NET Passport. .NET authentication. In addition, these initiatives seek to advance scenarios and capabilities for hot docking and longer battery life.
Windows "Longhorn" Platform Goals
This section summarizes Microsoft's key goals for the combination of operating system and hardware platform advances with Windows Longhorn.
Client Hardware Initiatives for Windows Longhorn
In early planning for the Windows "Longhorn" client, Microsoft has identified following core areas for advancing the platform for the client PC:
PC as a trusted, secure platform.
These goals include core hardware changes to ensure security, plus support for smart cards and biometric input devices.
PC fundamentals.
These goals continue to improve the Plug and Play, startup, and manageability characteristics of the system.
PC has appliance-like simplicity
These goals includes advancing OnNow performance with "instant on" improvements, predictable power button behavior, and unified interaction between software and hardware controls. This also includes advancing "quiet PC' goals for targeted markets.
For PC/device interaction, the goals include advancing standards for physical device connections and for discovery and authentication through Universal Plug and Play (UPnP) and Microsoft
PC as a primary form of integrated communications
These goals include advances in voice quality for real-time communications, and advances to operating system support and hardware integration of digital video and voice input capabilities.
PC as the center of home entertainment
This set of initiatives focused on audio/video (A/v) streaming and encoding, by advancing a completely digital audio path and reducing system latencies. These goals also include dramatic advances for usability through easy access connectors, new media support, and graphics support for both two-foot and ten-foot user interfaces.
PC is the preferred mobile device.
These goals include advancing support for "ink as input" by commoditizing support for Tablet PC input capabilities for laptops and new form factors. These goals also work to expanding the reach of wireless computing, through advances related to IEEE 802.11, mobile IPv6, Remote NDIS, UPnP discovery, and Microsoft
'He was a dreamer, a thinker, a speculative philosopher... or, as his wife would have it, an idiot.' - Douglas Adams
- Everything configurable via the command line for power users
- Non-integrated browser
- Non-integrated media player
- Drivers for USB 2.0, Bluetooth, and Firewire
- 100% documented APIs
- No WPA
I would also like the ability to fly, bend metal objects with my mind, and understand women.
John Maynard Keynes: "When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do?"
...then what? Aggie?
Of course, some could argue that XP was done by Aggies...
another decent quality os like win2kpro. If this is going to be another candy-coated XP-type deal, ill pass.
---- El diablo esta en mis pantalones! Mire, mire!
Wow alot of the features listed look amazing like the new verizon of enlightenment. Even has Rasterlike comments
But now it will be XP 2.0 (dare we call it 3.11?) that will have the good stuff. I am holding my breath, I am.
sPh
Haven't you seen how the devil is represented as a guy with horns and flatulence problems?!! This longhorn windows deal must be the devil's work!
*runs to hide*
Looking for people to chat about multicopters, coding, music. skype: gtsiros
Gosh, I sure do hate to see those two words used in the same sentence. Unfortunately, Microsoft seems to have managed to take this concept to very sinister territory.
Also, regarding Mira... I wanna know what happens when you accidently drop the device into the toilet when you go to wash your hands.
I hear that Longhorn will revolutionize the world as we know it.
For instance, the operating system may actually have a feature where you don't have to install IE.
Another major upgrade is that the you can now customize the blue screen of death to any picture you like. So at least now when your os crashes you can look at a picture of brittaney spears.
Man... can anyone say "buzzwords" and "milking the market" ?
Windows XP ME
And as an Aggie, I think it's damn funny that they'd call it "Longhorn". Guess I'll have to name my test machine I install it on "Bevo" and rename my main Linux server "Beatthehellouttatu". =)
Gig 'em!
In light of MS going after Lindows, should we expect the University of Texas to attack MS over the use of "Longhorns?"
Siva Vaidhyanathan is the author of Copyrights and Copyrwrongs (2001) and The Anarchist in the Library (2004).
Hear, hear! This is copyright infringement
and defamation of Bevo. Linux and Longhorns
forever. Boycott Microsoft!
Removal of the analog signal path for CD audio.
wth?
They have a list of all of the known security vulnerabilities in Windows. Funny how I never see any articles like that here.
Here's one for OpenBSD
With new features like seamless content transfer across devices, it looks like Longhorn will not just be Windows XP SE."
So does this mean that all the forthcoming MS worms will now be "seemlessly transferred" to my handheld devices? -;
Rumor has it that this next OS will be PNP beyond anything seen up to now: - Out of the box, it will automatically identify and give you remote configuration/control capability over all the appliances in your house. - With appropriate wireless hardware it will interface with your motor vehicles and provide you extended control over their operation, real time location and mechanical status. The counterpart is that whenever you make a significant hardware modification to any of the above units (including your computer of course) the OS will deactivate all of them at once and lock them in that status until you obtain a new activation key from MS...
The DirectX Video Acceleration (DirectX VA) API must be used if the hardware supports acceleration of MPEG-2 decode with motion compensation, iDCT, or VLD.
Video that is interlaced must be de-interlaced using the DirectX VA and Direct3D 9 APIs for video.
The components must be
What does this mean for OpenGL, which is already having problems?
Rumor has it that this next OS will be PNP beyond anything seen up to now. Out of the box, it will automatically identify and give you remote configuration/control capability over all the appliances in your house. With appropriate wireless hardware it will interface with your motor vehicles and provide you extended control over their operation, real time location and mechanical status. The counterpart is that whenever you make a significant hardware modification to any of the above units (including your computer of course) the OS will deactivate all of them at once and lock them in that status until you obtain a new activation key from MS...
will probably be a 3.2Ghz uP, 1Gb memory and 120Gb disk - and that's just to boot up. More RAM recommended for actually running applications, altho there probably won't be anything left that's NOT already integrated into the "operating system" that comes pre-installed with your new PC.
try { do() || do_not(); } catch (JediException err) { yoda(err); }
This does not by any stretch of the imagination mean that this is the next OS to come from Microsoft. Remember how 2000 was supposed to replace 98 and how it wasn't ready for primetime when Microsoft needed to fluff their coffers? Remember what we got out of that? Microsoft Me!!! It's goning to be near impossible for MS to mess up the NT line, but I wouldn't put it past them to slather on some new features on top of XP Home making it a useless POC and call it their new OS.
me, taking a big FOGHORN on your desktop.
Why do I get the feeling "Foghorn" would be more appropriate?
What does this mean? Is this just a big bunch of buzzwords for "file copying?" It sure sounds to me like it simply means you can copy from multiple devices (mp3 player ect).
Shouldn't it be able to do this already? Can't it do this already? If its a more strict definition (meaning it copies to about anything) then doesn't Mac OS X already meet this requirement, after all you can copy files (or content if you want to use the buzzwords) to or from about any device. Digital cameras, mp3 players, removable disks, you name it. Is this what M$ means?
--Won't that be grand? Computers and the programs will start thinking and the people will stop. - Dr. Walter Gibbs
Getting sick of Slashdot bullshit though. Funny how I get modded both as a troll and as insightful. Some people just mod as troll anyway but why? Why not reply and tell me why the article was so informative.
Conversion Rate Optimisation French / English consultant
... but it may have something to do with integrating the Digital Rights Management scheme further, so that ordinary users cannot rip CDs.
I hope to be proved wrong on this. Wouldn't put it past MS, though.
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Anyone else follow the link to the microsoft page from one of the first posts?
r ements.asp
http://www.microsoft.com/winlogo/hardware/HWrequi
The document entitled "Requirements for Client PCs" states that several new devices must be present for the Windows Logo program, they include:
Audio device that supports DRM
From the TV and Video section:
Video device that supports DRM
And a more vague listing in the "Home Entertainment " section that calls for a "Digital Media device that supports DRM".
On a side note, they are calling for BIOS makers to setup for being flashed from within the Win32 env, does anyone else see this as a way to open a hole for virus writers?
But judging from the information duplicated on slashdot, this is a big hoax. Dta transfer across devices? Umm... gee, that sounds new. All this garbage about using 3D acceleraters for 2D operations? Blatantly stupid, video cards can do 2D acceleration faster than 3D. The extraordinarily absurd description of how video content would reach the screen? And the little one slipped in about analog path for CD being eliminated, that just sounds like prodding people to believe they are doign this for DRM.
XML is like violence. If it doesn't solve the problem, use more.
that Microsoft has finished securing all their code? Or was I dreaming when I heard that they would put a feature-freeze into place while trolling their zillion lines of code for errors?
n/t
On a side note, how come Aggies can't build a bonfire without killing themselves in the process.
That's not called for. That is a very serious and real issue on A&M's campus.
You might, however, find it interesting to note that bonfire was around for 88 years before it fell in '99. I'd say thats a pretty good track record.
DOJ essentially gives up the anti-trust case and Microsoft code names the next version of Windows after a Texan word like Longhorn? Coincidence?
I think not!
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Ok its code name Longhorn... There is Gateway that uses a cow for a logo. Combind the two and you have a scarry though!
The best new feature are those that work!
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...Flo's Filet, I must agree with you.
"And like that
Not Windows SEX-P ? :) Kind of like apple's old problem. They used 'X' to denote a certain processor in a computer. So: The Mac II, the Mac IIx, the Mac IIci, Mac IIcx, etc. Didn't work so well with the Mac SE. Mac SE, Mac SEx ... hmm. So they called it the SE/030. (seriously, I used to own an SE/030)
But what do I care? i use a Mac.
sulli
RTFJ.
I am even more offended than you.
C-X C-S
-- Don't Tase me, bro!
Maybe if they had a decent recruiting class they could compete with OU and Texas.
Boomer Sooner.
Texas A&M is a cult. Got your ring? Got your stupid ass looking boots? Gig'em my ass. Weak sisters of charity.
I think that the best thing all of us can do is to support Lindows. It really is the best way that open source supporters are going to make there products enter the main stream. We need to show the business world that it works. Does anyone know if there is a Novell client for it???
One day you'll step out of the hype into the real world of winning. Just remember the only reason UT has any national championships is because a Sooner coached them. Your legend is our former player. Wait wasn't your current coach at OU first? Hmmm.... I can see a trend here.
With new features like digital rights management, it looks like Longhorn will not just be Windows XP LE (Limited Edition)."
"Mod, mod, mod...and another troll bites the dust."
Hook-em Horns !!!!!
I want to be alone with the sandwich
FREE CLUE: the parent post was not "Offtopic"
I hope I get you in meta-mod.
http://slashdotted.neowin.net (this is a valid URL, any name before neowin.net shows their statistics :D)
:D
w eb server.com&png=daily
Here is the graph
http://mrtg.datacolo.com/switch1/?log=neowin.ht
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Actually, who care?
I think shoehorn would be a more suitable name since they will probably squeese this Windows into everything they can manage.
Oh well.
But wait, wasn't there an article about "MS is running outta juice!"?
How does this affect project Shoehorn?
.haeger
You are not entitled to your opinion. You are entitled to your informed opinion. -- Harlan Ellison
it contains nano-probes. Win XP didn't completely assimilate me, dammit! I want to be part of the hive! *sob*
A vacuum is a hell of a lot better than some of the stuff that nature replaces it with. - Tennessee Williams
...like...reiser...and...most...other...linux...fa nboy...filesystems...and...they...are...all...slow . .. o...boot....
Just read through the requirements and the following caught my eye..
1) USB always full power. It looks like they must have shares in battery spares!?!?.. Why should they dictate how power management works. Shouldn't they be working around the hardware instead of expecting to dictate how the hardware works...
2) Memory requirements.. Why are they asking this? They should make a system that can run in 64Mb MAX so that we can use the rest of the memory for the applications. It annoys me that with every new version of windows it takes up all the base level memory (ie when XP was released 256Mb was starting to become the norm. But XP needed that as a base just to load smoothly..)
3) Win32 Flashable BIOS
oh well. got to laugh at Microsoft trying once more to try and take over the world (They may get the hint one day that they can't)..
I do wonder how many people will want this version of windows with all its anti-theft rubbish. Personally when I use my computer I want to use it the way I want not they way Billy Gates want's me to. That is why I use Linux. It is fairly simple to use, The applications I need are as good (if not better) than their windows counterparts. It allows me to experiment and learn without annoying restrictions. I know what is running on my machine, I can use what I want to access my machine, I know what the machine is logging behind the scenes, I can customise what I want without voiding my licence, I don't have to pay for bug-fixes (The patches from 95 to 98 to ME to 2k to XP cost a fortune...).
Anyway rant over...
Mark.
---- There are 10 types of people in the world. Those that understand binary and those that don't
They wanna start selling Macs?
Sounds like more Microsoft bull.
features like seamless content transfer across devices
it looks like MS sees that apple has gotten it right.
I am the Alpha and the Omega-3
Let me get this right, this machine is hosting a PRO-Windows XX OS webpage? And it's running Linux?
Say it ain't so. hehe
Nice little stats page. Any idea what generates it?
A beta copy of Windows Longhorn has just been made available. Check it out here:w inrg.sw f
http://ftp.die.net/mirror/humor/microsoft/
I think it's quite funny that the codename "longhorn" refers to the beetle family, cerambycidae, well known pests of forests and ornamental plants. The larvae consist of worms that bore into the host, making it more susceptible to future infestation and disease.
The analogy between this and the Windows operating system invasion of the corporate desktop is quite amusing.
Say what you want about Microsoft but the fact is that each time they release a new operating system. They are encouraging growth in the market. Open source groups have more reasons to make something thats a free equal (or better than) to Windows, while they are also imposing higher system requirements forcing hardware companies to sell more hardware and make faster parts. The fast parts yield more complex applications do to the fact that since Windows has higher minimum requirements the software users will already have faster systems that can run the software quicker. I don't know about you guys but I can do a lot more with my PC now than I could back when it was a 486dx2 with 8 megs of ram.
generate plenty of bullshit.
Here is your stick:
8=================D
Yes, only a 1/89 = 1.8% catastrophic fail rate. That's not bad at all. They teach engineering there?
Don't confuse this with the new Lindows Wonghorn release.
Emacs is his baby, and I doubt very much whether either party wants it included with Windows.
Infuriate left and right
Bend over so MS can give you the Longhorn..
Outdoor digital photography, mostly in New Engl
Won't this be an MS attempt to get your PC to lock out any other OS? I can imagine some of the marketing genii at MS going on about "How to finally get all those people who run Linux in a dual boot locked into our OS". I really would not put it past them, especially in light of the fact that new PC's are sold mostly with some MS OS preinstalled
tell that to the dead kids. no college tradition is worth dying for.
How closely would either one of these resemble this?
Or is it more like BeFS?
MRTG, http://people.ee.ethz.ch/~oetiker/webtools/mrtg/
From the doc:
Proposed requirements for advancing audio capabilities include:
Removal of the analog signal path for CD audio.
seamless content transfer
Sure, a great idea, technically sound from the standpoint of making device API's easier to deal with and make the consumer experience easier, too. Kinda like the UNIX concept of "everything is a file", except maybe, everything is "copyrighted digital content".
So look for inserted technology in the way of DRM or, as I prefer to name it, CUR (Content Use Restriction).
Yep, I can see it now: seamless nice setup of interdevice PKI after the device keys and your VISA card number (embedded into the Longhorn Authorization process) are verifed over .NET.
Michael Eisner will be giving plaudits to Microsoft for "achieving what Intel and the hardware manufacturers said was too difficult".
"Provided by the management for your protection."
... as it still delivers me my daily dose of pr0n I don't care what it takes to run.
You dare to hit ME! JOHNNY PASCAULLY!!
"Windows Desktop Guidelines
Ensure that file associations are appropriate"
ALL Audio/Video formats = Windows Media Player
ALL Web = Internet Explorer
ALL Database = MS SQL Server
So, in summary...
ALL YOUR FILE ASSOCIATIONS ARE BELONG TO US!
What a cheesey sounding name.
That sounds to me, like it'll have lots of drivers for PDAs and Digital Cameras and just auto-mount them as if they were a HDD. Of course the site is /.'ed so I can't read the story, but I hope MS found something else to add other than just that.
The best way to kill off sales of a current product is to announce how great the next version is going to be.
/. readers happen to be a writer for the New York Times for example, maybe you could write up an article about how great Microsoft's next version is going to be! Watch people in droves hold off on upgrading to XP! Praise can be a better weapon than FUD. Weeeee!
If any
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- - You can't take something off the Internet! That's like trying to take pee out of a swimming pool.
try bluefish. it's shaping up to be very polished.
The horns on Bill Gates are getting longer. Finally, something in a Microsoft product that is to be agreed with :)
You were expecting a sig?
From the Lindows insiders FAQ:
"Insiders also need to agree to honor our non-disclosure agreement, keeping the program and any information learned as a Lindows.com Insider confidential."
Wouldn't it be better just supporting Wine and your favorite distro? Open Source and Non-disclosure agreements somehow don't seem to jive in my book.
Time is what keeps everything from happening all at once.
The content appears to be gone of the site. The word document is now empty and the path to the executable containing the 6 documents is gone. Did someone back them up or does anyone have an alternative link?
Push the power button and it says... Invalid Boot Sector:The OS you are trying to load is not Longhorn... Please call microsoft.
Or better yet:
Scandisk-Please wait while we verify that you own all of your digital media content...Deleting Illegal Files...
Consider the following:
In the beginning of Microsoft, there was dos, dos was a simple command line OS, and some may compare it to Linux, but they were really not very similar. Next came Windows, and Linux got X and as time progressed we began to see a pattern:
Let wx be the windows operating system, where x is the current incarnation (IE 98, me or XP), and let ly=linux, where y is the current linux incarnation. If current patterns hold true, we can derive the following:
LIM [wx] =
x->infinity
[ly+(system requirements)-(usefull utilities)+2(games available for linux)^2)
but for
Lim[ly]
y->infinity
(system requirements)->0
(games available for linux)->infinity
so we can see that with each new iteration of windows, it becomes more and more like linux (though microsoft calls these NEW Features), so that eventually they will be entirelly cross compatible, we can all use those windows applications that never get ported and we can all delete those nasy windows paritions, so I say, let them make new OS's
hrmf.
I like how you were modded down. Taco et al are fags.
>>This is a great way to avoid having to use a DOS boot disk. Yes it creates the potential that a user can screw up their machine, but it also makes bios flashing really easy. Got 500 identical machines, simply push out an update. Easy. Sorry but your the minorty here and most users would welcome this.
Add me to the list that does NOT want to see this. Win32Bios + VBScriptTrojan/Virus = AHHHHhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!
Not that virii don't already trash bios' but it's not as widespread as MS apparently wants it to be!
I suppose that "dual" bios option will then become the standard in the next 2-3yrs.
Dear Microsoft,
regarding your plans to release a new version of windows...
The last Windows version I used was Windows 98 se. I used that for playing games, but nowadays I don't need that anymore because the games I play all have Linux ports. Other than that there was a copy of Windows NT4 running on my company notebook but I've upgraded that notebook to Linux two weeks after I got it. (mainly due to the usability and stability issues with your OS).
I also use Star Office. I get around compatibility issues to your office product by using PDF files if necessary. Mozilla has ever since version 0.9.2 been my browser of choice.
So, you see, there's hardly any reason at all for for me to use any Microsoft product. Not even if you added all the DRM features and marketing data collection capabilities no user could ever possibly want.
Regards.
Try JFS Troll.
We dub this "Project Greenhorn"
Why did they code name the new windows after a villian from Freakazoid cartoons?
May I take this moment to inject some rampant BeOS fanboyism into this thread?
\m/ BeFS \m/
That is all.
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Is this some kind of bad joke? When I go to that page, I see some uninteresting low-level features. And the Word document "Preview: Windows 'Longhorn' Proposed Requirements for Client PCs", a 199k Word file doesn't load into AbiWord , but actually just contains the string "The content is to be provided at a future date." (199kb of backwards incompatible WordXP just for that? Some things apparently never change.)
Sure, I'd love try that... but unfortunately it's not readily available :(
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Actually I believe Longhorn is named after this bar in Canada at the foot of Whistler. Whistler having been the codename for Windows XP.
So instead of a cowboy, think of Ballmer dressed as a Mountie or Moose.
Kinda scarier I think.
-Detection of Linux/Unix upon Longhorn installation will result license termination, corruption of BIOS, and fine of $100,000! Credit card only please.
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What are you smoking? Mozilla 1.0 hasn't been released yet. That might certainly explain why pages didn't render properly...
METAPAD is a much more feasable alternative. not only is it a good and stable replacement for notepad, it's also completely free. Not to mention it isn't bloated but just a lovely lightwight text editor just what it's supposed to be.
Funny how these jewels go so unnoticed so often
/me quickly returns to vi
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flaming grits, M$, linux, hope this fails,BSD, conspiracy, and f you all because my obscure ___ is better.
Would anyone care if "Longhorn" did not come? What if Microsoft's "dream" was unfufilled? How would it affect the world if Microsoft's new operating system had to be scrapped because of the anti-trust litigation? All that new code for Digital Rights Managment, an Amazing database file system, and the usual plethera of new bug fixes that won't be back-ported, was stopped cold and thrown into the intellectual property vault forever. Who cares?
It would not matter. The general public won't be disappointed; they don't know what Longhorn is (do you?). Some Microsoft execs and investers will be screwed. Some Microsoft execs will have destroyed dreams (the googly eyed marketing guys like Bill Gates and Steve Jobs). What if Windows XP were to never be? WinME? Win95?
The x86 computer industry would do just fine without the Microsoft solution. There are plenty of operating systems to choose from that will do Microsoft's job well.
~Common sense is the most evenly distubuted of all things, everyone thinks they have enough, and wants no more
nt
...is this going to be another 'bum steer' from Microsoft?
BeBits they should have BeOS 5 personal edition mirrored somewhere (I think)
Yeah, its E363B - Building with Beer...
okay kids, here's the reasoning behind MS's new codenames:
- Whistler is a world famous ski resort north of Vancouver in BC, Canada
- Blackcomb is one of the mountains there, and
- the Longhorn is a bar in Whistler
lots of MS execs have expensive cabins at Whistler so it kinda makes sense
Thanks for the recommendation! Bluefish definitely has potential, and I try it out briefly each new major release, but it suffers from the same lack of GUI expertise that most Windows and Unix apps do.
:)
If you look at the BBEdit interface, it's a blank window. It has a single thin bar at the top, and that's it. When you open any additional toolbars, they open horizontally, so that they can be placed beside the editing window(s), on either side. This translates into more screen space for the editor, because the more toolbars that are thrown at the top take away from the number of visible lines. The width of the lines doesn't need to extend to the edges of a 1200x1000 screen - that would be too difficult to read - so the placement of toolbars on either side is perfect.
Otherwise, there are only minor issues, which are shared by 99% of the editors out there, but I need the polish of a production tool. As much as I wish I could contribute more to projects like Bluefish, I simply don't have the time.
Another comparison is the GUI of the GIMP (or any other graphics app for that matter) vs. Photoshop (or any other Adobe app). These projects will get the attention they deserve when they become more intuitive to GUI-based users. Then there's those that use Gnome and gang purely to have multiple shells open.
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Step 1) Substitute "CBDTPA" for "Windows Longhorn" in the feature list.
Step 2) Reread it.
Is it just me, or does this talk of trusted, secure platforms and completely digital audio paths seem strangely familiar...?
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Who cares what unwanted bloat and pandering to Hollywood's RIAA/MPAA goons Microsoft plans for their next revenue-extraction cycle? Irrelevant, that's all. Microsoft built it's empire on "good enough" software, but now most people have hardware and software that's "good enough" for what they want to do with it, so they have no need to pay OEMs or Microsoft again. They who have lived by "good enough" are about to die by it. And good riddance to bad software. I'm buying LEAP Puts on Microsoft stock.
A study that documents the corporate backlash against Microsoft's overweening greed is here.
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Longhorn is the bar which must be crossed to get from Whistler (Windows XP) to Blackcomb (the next big release)
They're Pinky and the Brain
Yes, Pinky and the Brain
One is a genius, the other's insane
They're laboratory mice
Their genes have been spliced
They're dinky
They're Pinky and the Brain, Brain, Brain, Brain, Brain, Brain, Brain, Brain, Brain
Before each night is done
Their plan will be unfurled
By the dawning of the sun
They'll take over the world
They're Pinky and the Brain
Yes Pinky and the Brain
Their twilight campaign
Is easy to explain
To prove their mousey worth
They'll overthrow the Earth
They're dinky
They're Pinky and the Brain, Brain, Brain, Brain, Brain,
Brain, Brain, Brain, NARF!