Like 1984 warned, capitalism and socialism are dead words that have little actual meaning and have become almost empty brand names. It is extremely difficult, especially in the USA, to have a serious discussion about either ISM.
Capitalism that Smith promoted he justified using socialist arguments, it still is to this day! When you say something benefits the most people in the long run as a reason for doing something you are taking a socialist position. "The needs of the many out way the needs of the few".... to quote Spock. The argument for capitalism is that it's the best system for everybody in the end to let some anarchy decide winners and losers. We keep fighting over how much anarchy to allow and what kind of controls when we impose rules. When you have no anarchy, you're on the communist side of the spectrum -- and as usual, simpletons on either side see any steps way from their position as a binary.
Americans especially confuse communism with socialism; so much they seem to think they are synonyms.
Make Russia Great Again! Yet another pro-Russia move from Trump... no, those laws that passed forcing actions against Russia he just does them half-ass for now.
The article indirectly brings up issues worth discussing; but it was likely the article author lacked any depth of understanding. Especially the idiotic industry complaints of MBA types who are trained to EXTERNALIZE ALL COSTS -- employees do not get training, it's their problem and it's the schools problem etc. A competent employee will train themselves in specific details like tools/languages but they want that for FREE, to the extreme of not even planning for learning on the employee's own personal time (which should be a crime) they want people who already have 5 years experience level skills in technology X (which is 2 years old.)
We NEED competent engineers to do everything... get don't get enough of them. We WANT scientists but we do not need them unless we want to progress forward.
Science invents new kinds of engineering and makes existing engineering better. It has an indirect impact and it's a multiplier in that just 1 scientists and change the whole world. They rarely get noticed and the masses wouldn't even know about science if it wasn't for all the hype -- and I say hype because the masses can't see the massively important impact science has; they only see the hype and to their perspective it's hardly different than all the other hype. So I can see why an ignorant slow person can't tell the difference... and try to do my part to hype something that shouldn't NEED the help.
A Software ENGINEER with a proper education will get some CS training and Math needs to be a big part of it... not more than English/language skills... don't take me wrong, I'm in the USA, Math skills are behind; if Math skills were at the proper level then an equivalent amount of Math and English would be required for the SE degree.
We should still have CS majors, but they probably should go back to their Math Dept roots as a small niche. This would keep the real scientists away from the engineers; it would help both do better. We don't dilute physics by making it cater to mechanical engineers. It is separate and does science that spawns new and better engineering specialization.
We have CS majors from crap schools who are barely competent at software engineering. It would help to at least separate the two areas.
Some of it is spot on. My CS department is divided by CS and Software Engineers. Points to remember:
0) Parent post.
1) Computer Science was 1st and is prestigious so market demand has pressured the degree to morph into Software Engineering rather than fade into obscurity while Software Engineering becomes the popular desired degree. As a result, older CS *tend* to be math, younger are SE. Today's modern CS program is nearly SE; where a few required courses are are out of the CS/Math area unless your one of the rare schools which has SE and CS and differentiates them more. Naturally, there are people trying to preserve CS and obviously SE needs some CS oriented courses along with Math, a Science Lab etc.
2) CS is important and the math theory nerds are incredibly valuable and this work has and will be largely done by academics. Professors do not simply share knowledge with students. How can be people be so ignorant as to think that they are like high school teachers? Non-research profs are supposed to TEACH (while research types just share) which is an additional area of applied psychology. The confusion between these 2 subgroups continues in the culture and system. Not that a great deal of education expertise is needed since students are supposed to be capable; however, given how college has been trending away from the intellectual elite to the masses more emphasis on education expertise... another topic.
3) This attack on academics needs to be stopped by anybody who respects teachers! It is YOUR job (the reader of this) to defend them against the anti-intellectual assaults trending in the culture. Educators have training besides the topic they teach; it is NOT easy or well known how to train everybody's brains on every topic. You can't just plug in an uplink like The Matrix; even then you'll need some trained person to strap the brats into the uplink machine properly.
4) The article reads like the commonplace foolish opinions that continue to plague the industry. This is why many posters will point out that the cause of many problems today is because of this ignorance of the details of the profession... akin to "I've been to the dentist a lot; therefore, I know something about dentistry. It's over rated..."
Parent... but nearly all humans too: You have the ability to choose sources who stoke your ego but you ultimately hurt yourself and possibly others (whether you have the "right" is seriously debatable.)
Facts can be found which help almost any side; cogent arguments can also be found as well-- not a priority for most people. The #1 thing is to feel good and people won't admit they do that; they'll spent more mental effort rationalizing their irrational behavior because it's a defensive survival emotion driving their brain.
If you want to seek the actual WHOLE truth instead of letting your animal nature filter all your perception, you will seek out sources which make you feel BAD. Not upset/outraged because that perversely releases good brain chemicals too... It all comes down to dealing with depression in the end.
Environmentalists CARE more; emotions DO cloud judgement while they provide necessary motivation. Double edged sword. They can like everybody else be herded down wrong paths and cling to wrong ideas; especially ones with significant investment. Not that it is always bad to do so, one should have a stronger attachment to positions they know more about and not be a flip flopping dotard.
Nuclear power is a highly politically corrupt industry with a lot of propaganda; solar hasn't grown enough to compete and the decentralized nature of wind/solar along with the limited use of hydro makes the alternative industries less corrupting; therefore, less powerful. Trash is always highly political and poorly monitored.
Do not bash this thing for the obvious flaws ANY estimate has losing sight of the real point of the whole thing. Putting some effort into THINKING before bitching about the obvious problem of how we can use > 100% of anything and when you figure that out THEN discuss it because you're not doing any good beyond fishing for help for yourself. Yes, it's easy to just hide your mental laziness or lack of time by framing "I'm confused" as a form of a criticism (or critical tone to hide your honest expression of confusion.)
Think of what Peak Oil is; if you understand that, then you have an idea of how these estimates can be done. Remember when Peak Oil happened? I do and there were people doing the same thing out of ignorance and confusion back then (but fewer people.)
People like to blab about the Drake equation for life in the universe too; which is a total waste of time. This at least can serve a purpose of making people think about a real problem.
To mean anything, this has to be a more complex equation and no matter how good it is, most people will not put in the effort to understand it and only rely upon somebody else's summation of it. Their own biases will give the result they would like to hear. This is the SAME kind of problem we have with FACTS today.
All our progress happened without all this new great stuff and we sure do not seem to be progressing forward in modern times...
Delaying gratification is a huge indicator of having a better life; simply forcing students to learn lessons along those lines will do them more good than most every other lesson. Waiting for their phone use alone is a great learning opportunity for them.
Studies and science will and have begun to back such policies; we are talking about big new changes and should be conservative about their use while waiting for the science to catch up. We ALREADY have studies showing IQ drops simply having their phone known to be within range distracts them EVEN if they know it is OFF!
We have preliminary stuff from many observations which will lead to studies showing that boredom is healthy and an important of child development.
We have studies already going on about the poor social skills and many of use non-millennial are noticing problems in the younger generation that are beyond the classic older generation complaints. Just 1 area: https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
If they wouldn't let me pay then I'd leave it behind right there. They can put it away. If it is food.... then it's a debt and it's their fault for letting me eat it before paying for it.
It doesn't work ONLY because they let you LIVE after they steal your cards so you can report them stolen. If they simply put you into a coma or kill you, it'll be a while before your cards are frozen. Same with your phone; after the cut off your finger or beat the unlock PIN out from you.
If they had anybody with a brain in management at Mozilla, they'd NOT remove anything without making an API for somebody to add back an equal or greater replacement! They should give TIME for some to surface and then have a whole category on the Add-on site for restoring old firefox features. It is just basic customer service; when you upset the customers provide them SOMETHING they can do about it. Hell, Mozilla promotes "freedom" yet they keep imposing their BS onto others. They could poll users and at least cite that when the changes happen; it's likely the poll will agree with them anyhow but at least it is better customer relations. Not this power trip by a tiny minority organization trying to push people around like their the big dog.
Why aren't more people upset the SAME mozilla post mentions that Firefox RSS was ported to Chrome and somebody may port that back into firefox for them??
I forgot that I have an add-on which RESTORES the RSS icon which I had to add when they removed the subscribe to RSS icon feature! No wonder few people even KNOW about RSS!
I only go to slashdot from a RSS bookmark and other sites. I suppose it will save me time but in the end I'll just hate mozilla's idiotic management more. The limited resource excuse is always a fallback for BS arguments; it's not honest many times it is used - this is an existing feature which made it past many big transitions; they don't need to rewrite it in rust.
Many of these IDIOTIC moves are not technical like the multi-process transition. Management must be all narcissistic novice users. Power users decide for others and promote software for others. I literally bring 100s of users to Firefox every year - upsetting people like me is foolish.
I was raised catholic, which is all about controlling people. lots of guilt. Shame is actually one of the strongest emotions, I've heard it argued that it's stronger than any or on par with FEAR. It will beat love too, just like fear does. proving that is a huge problem because the burden of proof is quite high and nobody will let you do the experiments; even primate studies get into trouble doing such topics. (oh there are some devilish ones worth reading...)
Dispel the indoctrination that you are not an animal like the other primates. we're just apes with big brains and the animal kingdom's record for distance jogging (ever wonder why we use 2 legs, sweat, no hair?)
I'm skeptical of your cynicism! believe in god still? heaven? democracy? heil trumpf? scientists? have all the time in the world and brains to do everything yourself? think you picked yourself up by your own bootstraps? think others can? think others are equal to you therefore shouldn't get anything you didn't get?
Propaganda is about emotions. Thinking only in support of those emotions. Sometimes it can be hard to see the nuance between thinking bringing out emotions and emotions driving rationalization.
I've not checked out Democracy Now in years. They were the best thing in the USA for a decade; don't know about now. Infowars, I followed in the early days before it existed because I have a conspiracy friend who was a huge fan but it was to me largely entertainment as it evolved into a big greedy ego fest that it is now... it's clearly for profit, unlike democracy now.
Cynicism itself can be a paranoid delusion itself... A real cynic has to be capable of being cynical about cynicism itself sometimes... don't just bite on every conspiracy story. You may not be, but there are people who actually are selfless people and a shitload of people lying to themselves and others. Plenty of selfish takers too; if not the majority... which is why capitalism kind of works (but not in it's extremes one has to be cynical about all religions, especially economic ones because economics are the real gods.)
I know there are no perfect solutions in life; but it doesn't mean that I just give up. Hell, if you ever do AI work you'll start to grasp this stuff. Everything is a non-linear approximation of some fuzzy goal where it's hard to define optimal success with certainty let along wondering the maze in the dark for the way out... we're all rats in the maze... or AI approximating equations beyond comprehension. Your thesis is probably along the lines of defeatism but with a religious belief that anarchy will yield produce as good results as continual attempts at "a more perfect union." I think perhaps you should explore anarchist thought... so should I... I've never read far in that direction because it's so absurd. Nature is all about complex systems (physics included) limiting chaos. Yes, we are attempting to play god, or nature in a way. we do that sort of thing all the time.
I'm extremely cynical (everybody says so) and I'm probably what you'd call liberal; not that those labels mean much anymore as they've become brands with identities. I'm in almost no way near the American Democratic Party either.
Getting rid of civilization (government and taxes) does not make a society more civil. Making it work better does; which sometimes may require a reboot. Every democracy DIES and my theory is the better they do the shorter their lifespan is. This was known back in the day; hell, they ended the constitutional convention after Franklin basically said it's all going to fail in the end anyway. The argument and planning by others was an attempt to civilize political revolutions because they too saw the realities of how humans can't do anything well for that long. Checks and Balances is a cynical concept to begin with...
I'll keep saying this to get it into the thick headed: Taxes are the price of civilization.
Everything can be called indoctrination; did you grow up on a deserted island all by yourself? If not, then you were indoctrinated. It's all a matter of WHAT is to be indoctrinated not whether or not it is going to happen. My tribe good... better tribe than you tribe...
Does everybody question and think about everything on their own? Hell no! I wish. Most the planet is religious; oh yes, religion is fundamentally indoctrination. Is it bad? sometimes. Is it good? Well, i don't want to argue with everybody I meet to convince them it's a bad idea to kill me and take my stuff... Surely, you'd want some indoctrination and LAWS that align with that. Some laws go too far some not far enough; where you get upset is when it doesn't align with your values. Oh, BTW, where did you get your values? (hint: topic is indoctrination.)
Stupid people need simple directions to follow with simple reasons. God said so;-)
Seriously, even us smarter educated people have plenty of stupid moments; to be stupid sometimes IS to be human...arguably it IS the normal human state; after all, cognitive psychology keeps proving that point further.
You can't efficiently solve a multiple step problem involving multiple parties (not all who are willing to participate) all at the same exact time... trying to do that makes it nearly impossible to do.
You give the kids a habit of recycling even though the school trashes everything. Later, as adults, they are used to the whole process so they are not lazy bitching litter bugs resisting change/progress and having to lift a finger. I could figure that out as a teen? how old are you?
Furthermore, upset adults who spent their lives as part of the theater SHOULD want to make it REAL rather than give up something that was supposed to work and would work if somebody in government wasn't corrupt.
I vote. I know they are crooks, I aim for lesser crooks - I do not stop and do nothing; and I sure as hell go for somebody trying to fix the system in a significant way.... a lot of gullible people did that in 2016 (not all of them, some are racists or xenophobes or tribal or crooks.)
All CD/DVDs are poly-carbonate - it's industry. But the law could say you have to PICK a standard and stay with it. So say all food containers must be PP #5? no mixed caps made from #2 or #4. All PVS must be white and all ABS must be black... kind of already happens in plumbing pipe. exceptions for classes of products... Think of it like HID class drivers. Sure some will bitch that they can't make their product different by confusing the situation-- well, tough, you can't make your bike out of radioactive materials so it glows either.
Tax the exceptions to cover the burden those things impose; that creates incentives to innovate around the taxes.... nothing seems to motivate capitalists more than avoiding taxes... we should capitalize upon that!
Obviously, globalization is a huge huge problem and tariffs need to be done... stronger than in the past and the WTO and our treaties do all seem to totally suck... Trump is right on that; but we need intelligent new ones and he appears unable to beat the bad ones we have already.
I've always been in support of recycling even when I knew as a student all the dumpsters went into the SAME garbage truck (I saw it after school.)
Multiple parts in the process have to ALL be addressed. If you get everybody but jerks recycling that is just the 3rd part of the process. 1st part is regulating what's made, we don't hardly do that.... 2nd part is not buying stupid cheap disposable shit we do not need in the 1st place (that won't ever happen.) + more steps...
China had all those boats full of junk we bought and since they took over, we had nothing to ship back to them so they made $$$ taking our UNSORTED trash without any accountability when they got it back home. Now they don't want our trash, it's not more profitable than just buying the gas for the boat.
If we want recycling to work, we have to not be so LAZY and presort again. Then we have to BAN mixed materials because nobody seriously sorts by looking at those 1-7 labels on the plastic... That isn't even the big thing-- banning stupid things like straws is finally being done. Things like BOTTLES should have remained glass (clean and reuse) like they always were-- it's entirely corporate conspiracy to slander consumers for not recycling their forced TRASH because they want to save pennies on containers (because their competition is cheaper... hence the NEED to regulate a level playing field. just like regulations stop your business from assassinating your competition.)
Government WORKS only if YOU collectively inspect/regulate it same with corporations and the assholes that make up 1/3 of society. We get what we deserve.
Classic republican ideological fanaticism. Normally I don't waste my time... but today I feel like it:
This is not logical thinking; it's an emotional religious belief system rationalized and professed by a cult member who's also likely not so pleased with his new prophet and no matter how much the devil illustrates bad implementations none of the beliefs will waver 1 tiny bit. I could be wrong and this is a Trumptard just hiding in order to promote the religion which got us all into this mess.
"Universal Truths" are most often signs of a fanatic religious belief; disproving them is always extremely easy logically but it's religious so it's hopeless to correct the devoted by reasoning. It takes an intervention amount of effort. So addressing the parent poster directly in a posting is completely useless no matter how well written; the only point would be to get to some people who are leaning that way but are not yet fanatic.
Not 100% of everything and not 100% of the time. Universals are begging for somebody to cite just 1 out of infinite possibilities... The clever opposition always points out any PERCEIVED imperfection as being TOTAL failure --- ironically, the fanatics which employ LOGIC to take down perfect solutions they dislike by citing 1 perception or 1 falsehood always fail to accept the same logic applied to what they believe in; LOOK at the 4 Universal "truths" of the parent and imagine the typical argument that always happens and you've likely seen before for each one. It's part of the definition of being fanatic-- blatant and/or blind hypocritical rationalizations.
Almost everything in life is at least an overly simplified spectrum which most people can grasp....not black and white universals. Reality is likely to be always multidimensional to levels beyond human cognitive ability, but we have to do as well as we can and try to listen to smart specialists to extend our collective limitations.... which are still HUGE... stop patting yourself on the back for being the smarted mammal on the planet. (My fast GPU is better than yours... but neither of us can break AES 256. get the point?) Fanatics need their strong belief to be on strong solid ground for emotional reasons so they rationalize in extreme ways to escape the REALITY of uncertainty. That is not to say everybody exaggerating as a form of emphasis or propaganda is a fanatic; but people who are just preaching it are almost always fanatics looking for ego stroking or converts and no different than religious fanatics. I urge you to find some in a different faith than yours and interact with them on their faith... see if you can pick up what the essence is of fanaticism. It's useful and applies outside of theology.
Taxes are the price for civilization and government is the means by which people are civilized. The higher the population density and the more complex the interactions the bigger government must be. Think simply of practical law enforcement as an example, it has to scale in size with population - that should be obvious! It does not simply scale by adding more cops; you need management of the cops and organizational structural changes then you have associations and tribal behaviors of the cops as a group because humans DO NOT SCALE well and we never evolved to work beyond small tribal communities (tons of science along these lines, go look.) Compartmentalization is one practical approach but it comes with huge amounts of it's own problems (largely tribal,) it's inherently HUMAN nature that brings about all problems.
If you want a simple primitive government you have to live in a simple primitive society. It's just that simple. It won't be perfect either. But when you invent technologies that ALL have significant risks as well as weapon applications your government has to adapt to those. At some point you WILL reach the limitations of human self-governance where members are not smart enough to manage the complexity and scale of their civilization. We like to BELIEVE humans can scale intellectuall
They really were fighting for THEIR right... to enslave others! All the BS about state rights, personal rights, etc-- was completely BS and exists more today than it did back then; they knew full well it was totally about their right to own slaves. They may not have had any slaves but someday when they are rich... they wanted to be able to own slaves. In addition, the culture created to justify the whole thing motivated a great many people and entrenched attitudes and beliefs which continue to this day--- because as Mark Twain said, "Laws are but sand, culture is rock."
The fight over "way of life" and "traditional values" also never ends as popular culture shifts over time even without people working to nudge it.
Trolling bots all over the web and it is hard to tell anymore which is satire, parody, comedy and what is serious. People have gone off the rails more than Germany in the 1930s... if only we could put a rank on irrationality; not that it would help any as the lemmings will continue running for the cliff regardless (apt metaphor if you think about the irony.)
Employment is a human problem. FYI, most humans DO NOT LIVE IN THE USA.
Furthermore, if you think citing 1 employer is a rebuttal of my statement assuming it's limited to just one of the BEST performing economies you need practice. Literal simplistic interpretation is slowing you down in argumentative distractions when you could be actually thinking about problems.
You can't even get good unemployment numbers because the only solid number is politically skewed by government to filter out a much larger number of people who are long term unemployed and they also do not properly count underemployed. There are many more underemployed people in the world who do not have enough jobs or a single decent job to lift themselves out from poverty, certainly there are not enough jobs to give everybody gainful employment at a level acceptable to 1st world minimums you must at least recognize this? So without capital and/or creativity everybody is supposed to create a market for themselves? Supply side economics 101... if you make/do something then the customers will come and buy? (then why do we have massively huge corporate welfare in successful economies?) This situation is not unlike an ART-Based economy which can't work because success in ART is based upon popularity (exclusivity by definition or in economic terms the art market over saturates quickly...)
When robotics and AI boost productivity high enough you can't close your eyes to reality you'll have to face reality.
Like 1984 warned, capitalism and socialism are dead words that have little actual meaning and have become almost empty brand names. It is extremely difficult, especially in the USA, to have a serious discussion about either ISM.
Capitalism that Smith promoted he justified using socialist arguments, it still is to this day! When you say something benefits the most people in the long run as a reason for doing something you are taking a socialist position. "The needs of the many out way the needs of the few".... to quote Spock. The argument for capitalism is that it's the best system for everybody in the end to let some anarchy decide winners and losers. We keep fighting over how much anarchy to allow and what kind of controls when we impose rules. When you have no anarchy, you're on the communist side of the spectrum -- and as usual, simpletons on either side see any steps way from their position as a binary.
Americans especially confuse communism with socialism; so much they seem to think they are synonyms.
Make Russia Great Again!
Yet another pro-Russia move from Trump... no, those laws that passed forcing actions against Russia he just does them half-ass for now.
I really hate this stupid automatic typo fixing feature...
The article indirectly brings up issues worth discussing; but it was likely the article author lacked any depth of understanding. Especially the idiotic industry complaints of MBA types who are trained to EXTERNALIZE ALL COSTS -- employees do not get training, it's their problem and it's the schools problem etc. A competent employee will train themselves in specific details like tools/languages but they want that for FREE, to the extreme of not even planning for learning on the employee's own personal time (which should be a crime) they want people who already have 5 years experience level skills in technology X (which is 2 years old.)
We NEED competent engineers to do everything... get don't get enough of them.
We WANT scientists but we do not need them unless we want to progress forward.
Science invents new kinds of engineering and makes existing engineering better. It has an indirect impact and it's a multiplier in that just 1 scientists and change the whole world. They rarely get noticed and the masses wouldn't even know about science if it wasn't for all the hype -- and I say hype because the masses can't see the massively important impact science has; they only see the hype and to their perspective it's hardly different than all the other hype. So I can see why an ignorant slow person can't tell the difference... and try to do my part to hype something that shouldn't NEED the help.
A Software ENGINEER with a proper education will get some CS training and Math needs to be a big part of it... not more than English/language skills... don't take me wrong, I'm in the USA, Math skills are behind; if Math skills were at the proper level then an equivalent amount of Math and English would be required for the SE degree.
We should still have CS majors, but they probably should go back to their Math Dept roots as a small niche. This would keep the real scientists away from the engineers; it would help both do better. We don't dilute physics by making it cater to mechanical engineers. It is separate and does science that spawns new and better engineering specialization.
We have CS majors from crap schools who are barely competent at software engineering. It would help to at least separate the two areas.
Some of it is spot on. My CS department is divided by CS and Software Engineers. Points to remember:
0) Parent post.
1) Computer Science was 1st and is prestigious so market demand has pressured the degree to morph into Software Engineering rather than fade into obscurity while Software Engineering becomes the popular desired degree. As a result, older CS *tend* to be math, younger are SE. Today's modern CS program is nearly SE; where a few required courses are are out of the CS/Math area unless your one of the rare schools which has SE and CS and differentiates them more. Naturally, there are people trying to preserve CS and obviously SE needs some CS oriented courses along with Math, a Science Lab etc.
2) CS is important and the math theory nerds are incredibly valuable and this work has and will be largely done by academics. Professors do not simply share knowledge with students. How can be people be so ignorant as to think that they are like high school teachers? Non-research profs are supposed to TEACH (while research types just share) which is an additional area of applied psychology. The confusion between these 2 subgroups continues in the culture and system. Not that a great deal of education expertise is needed since students are supposed to be capable; however, given how college has been trending away from the intellectual elite to the masses more emphasis on education expertise... another topic.
3) This attack on academics needs to be stopped by anybody who respects teachers! It is YOUR job (the reader of this) to defend them against the anti-intellectual assaults trending in the culture. Educators have training besides the topic they teach; it is NOT easy or well known how to train everybody's brains on every topic. You can't just plug in an uplink like The Matrix; even then you'll need some trained person to strap the brats into the uplink machine properly.
4) The article reads like the commonplace foolish opinions that continue to plague the industry. This is why many posters will point out that the cause of many problems today is because of this ignorance of the details of the profession... akin to "I've been to the dentist a lot; therefore, I know something about dentistry. It's over rated..."
Parent... but nearly all humans too:
You have the ability to choose sources who stoke your ego but you ultimately hurt yourself and possibly others (whether you have the "right" is seriously debatable.)
Facts can be found which help almost any side; cogent arguments can also be found as well-- not a priority for most people. The #1 thing is to feel good and people won't admit they do that; they'll spent more mental effort rationalizing their irrational behavior because it's a defensive survival emotion driving their brain.
If you want to seek the actual WHOLE truth instead of letting your animal nature filter all your perception, you will seek out sources which make you feel BAD. Not upset/outraged because that perversely releases good brain chemicals too... It all comes down to dealing with depression in the end.
Environmentalists CARE more; emotions DO cloud judgement while they provide necessary motivation. Double edged sword. They can like everybody else be herded down wrong paths and cling to wrong ideas; especially ones with significant investment. Not that it is always bad to do so, one should have a stronger attachment to positions they know more about and not be a flip flopping dotard.
Nuclear power is a highly politically corrupt industry with a lot of propaganda; solar hasn't grown enough to compete and the decentralized nature of wind/solar along with the limited use of hydro makes the alternative industries less corrupting; therefore, less powerful. Trash is always highly political and poorly monitored.
Do not bash this thing for the obvious flaws ANY estimate has losing sight of the real point of the whole thing. Putting some effort into THINKING before bitching about the obvious problem of how we can use > 100% of anything and when you figure that out THEN discuss it because you're not doing any good beyond fishing for help for yourself. Yes, it's easy to just hide your mental laziness or lack of time by framing "I'm confused" as a form of a criticism (or critical tone to hide your honest expression of confusion.)
Think of what Peak Oil is; if you understand that, then you have an idea of how these estimates can be done. Remember when Peak Oil happened? I do and there were people doing the same thing out of ignorance and confusion back then (but fewer people.)
People like to blab about the Drake equation for life in the universe too; which is a total waste of time. This at least can serve a purpose of making people think about a real problem.
To mean anything, this has to be a more complex equation and no matter how good it is, most people will not put in the effort to understand it and only rely upon somebody else's summation of it. Their own biases will give the result they would like to hear. This is the SAME kind of problem we have with FACTS today.
All our progress happened without all this new great stuff and we sure do not seem to be progressing forward in modern times...
Delaying gratification is a huge indicator of having a better life; simply forcing students to learn lessons along those lines will do them more good than most every other lesson. Waiting for their phone use alone is a great learning opportunity for them.
Studies and science will and have begun to back such policies; we are talking about big new changes and should be conservative about their use while waiting for the science to catch up. We ALREADY have studies showing IQ drops simply having their phone known to be within range distracts them EVEN if they know it is OFF!
We have preliminary stuff from many observations which will lead to studies showing that boredom is healthy and an important of child development.
We have studies already going on about the poor social skills and many of use non-millennial are noticing problems in the younger generation that are beyond the classic older generation complaints. Just 1 area: https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
If they wouldn't let me pay then I'd leave it behind right there. They can put it away. If it is food.... then it's a debt and it's their fault for letting me eat it before paying for it.
In the USA it is required by law that all debts be payable by US Dollars. They can not legally require only an alternative to cash.
It doesn't work ONLY because they let you LIVE after they steal your cards so you can report them stolen. If they simply put you into a coma or kill you, it'll be a while before your cards are frozen. Same with your phone; after the cut off your finger or beat the unlock PIN out from you.
So much safer to let them have some cash.
If they had anybody with a brain in management at Mozilla, they'd NOT remove anything without making an API for somebody to add back an equal or greater replacement! They should give TIME for some to surface and then have a whole category on the Add-on site for restoring old firefox features. It is just basic customer service; when you upset the customers provide them SOMETHING they can do about it. Hell, Mozilla promotes "freedom" yet they keep imposing their BS onto others. They could poll users and at least cite that when the changes happen; it's likely the poll will agree with them anyhow but at least it is better customer relations. Not this power trip by a tiny minority organization trying to push people around like their the big dog.
Why aren't more people upset the SAME mozilla post mentions that Firefox RSS was ported to Chrome and somebody may port that back into firefox for them??
I forgot that I have an add-on which RESTORES the RSS icon which I had to add when they removed the subscribe to RSS icon feature! No wonder few people even KNOW about RSS!
I only go to slashdot from a RSS bookmark and other sites. I suppose it will save me time but in the end I'll just hate mozilla's idiotic management more. The limited resource excuse is always a fallback for BS arguments; it's not honest many times it is used - this is an existing feature which made it past many big transitions; they don't need to rewrite it in rust.
Many of these IDIOTIC moves are not technical like the multi-process transition. Management must be all narcissistic novice users. Power users decide for others and promote software for others. I literally bring 100s of users to Firefox every year - upsetting people like me is foolish.
I was raised catholic, which is all about controlling people. lots of guilt. Shame is actually one of the strongest emotions, I've heard it argued that it's stronger than any or on par with FEAR. It will beat love too, just like fear does. proving that is a huge problem because the burden of proof is quite high and nobody will let you do the experiments; even primate studies get into trouble doing such topics. (oh there are some devilish ones worth reading...)
Dispel the indoctrination that you are not an animal like the other primates. we're just apes with big brains and the animal kingdom's record for distance jogging (ever wonder why we use 2 legs, sweat, no hair?)
I'm skeptical of your cynicism! believe in god still? heaven? democracy? heil trumpf? scientists? have all the time in the world and brains to do everything yourself? think you picked yourself up by your own bootstraps? think others can? think others are equal to you therefore shouldn't get anything you didn't get?
Propaganda is about emotions. Thinking only in support of those emotions. Sometimes it can be hard to see the nuance between thinking bringing out emotions and emotions driving rationalization.
I've not checked out Democracy Now in years. They were the best thing in the USA for a decade; don't know about now. Infowars, I followed in the early days before it existed because I have a conspiracy friend who was a huge fan but it was to me largely entertainment as it evolved into a big greedy ego fest that it is now... it's clearly for profit, unlike democracy now.
Cynicism itself can be a paranoid delusion itself... A real cynic has to be capable of being cynical about cynicism itself sometimes... don't just bite on every conspiracy story. You may not be, but there are people who actually are selfless people and a shitload of people lying to themselves and others. Plenty of selfish takers too; if not the majority... which is why capitalism kind of works (but not in it's extremes one has to be cynical about all religions, especially economic ones because economics are the real gods.)
I know there are no perfect solutions in life; but it doesn't mean that I just give up. Hell, if you ever do AI work you'll start to grasp this stuff. Everything is a non-linear approximation of some fuzzy goal where it's hard to define optimal success with certainty let along wondering the maze in the dark for the way out... we're all rats in the maze... or AI approximating equations beyond comprehension. Your thesis is probably along the lines of defeatism but with a religious belief that anarchy will yield produce as good results as continual attempts at "a more perfect union." I think perhaps you should explore anarchist thought... so should I... I've never read far in that direction because it's so absurd. Nature is all about complex systems (physics included) limiting chaos. Yes, we are attempting to play god, or nature in a way. we do that sort of thing all the time.
I'm extremely cynical (everybody says so) and I'm probably what you'd call liberal; not that those labels mean much anymore as they've become brands with identities. I'm in almost no way near the American Democratic Party either.
Getting rid of civilization (government and taxes) does not make a society more civil. Making it work better does; which sometimes may require a reboot. Every democracy DIES and my theory is the better they do the shorter their lifespan is. This was known back in the day; hell, they ended the constitutional convention after Franklin basically said it's all going to fail in the end anyway. The argument and planning by others was an attempt to civilize political revolutions because they too saw the realities of how humans can't do anything well for that long. Checks and Balances is a cynical concept to begin with...
I'll keep saying this to get it into the thick headed: Taxes are the price of civilization.
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Everything can be called indoctrination; did you grow up on a deserted island all by yourself? If not, then you were indoctrinated. It's all a matter of WHAT is to be indoctrinated not whether or not it is going to happen. My tribe good... better tribe than you tribe...
Does everybody question and think about everything on their own? Hell no! I wish. Most the planet is religious; oh yes, religion is fundamentally indoctrination. Is it bad? sometimes. Is it good? Well, i don't want to argue with everybody I meet to convince them it's a bad idea to kill me and take my stuff... Surely, you'd want some indoctrination and LAWS that align with that. Some laws go too far some not far enough; where you get upset is when it doesn't align with your values. Oh, BTW, where did you get your values? (hint: topic is indoctrination.)
Stupid people need simple directions to follow with simple reasons. God said so ;-)
Seriously, even us smarter educated people have plenty of stupid moments; to be stupid sometimes IS to be human...arguably it IS the normal human state; after all, cognitive psychology keeps proving that point further.
You can't efficiently solve a multiple step problem involving multiple parties (not all who are willing to participate) all at the same exact time... trying to do that makes it nearly impossible to do.
You give the kids a habit of recycling even though the school trashes everything. Later, as adults, they are used to the whole process so they are not lazy bitching litter bugs resisting change/progress and having to lift a finger. I could figure that out as a teen? how old are you?
Furthermore, upset adults who spent their lives as part of the theater SHOULD want to make it REAL rather than give up something that was supposed to work and would work if somebody in government wasn't corrupt.
I vote. I know they are crooks, I aim for lesser crooks - I do not stop and do nothing; and I sure as hell go for somebody trying to fix the system in a significant way.... a lot of gullible people did that in 2016 (not all of them, some are racists or xenophobes or tribal or crooks.)
All CD/DVDs are poly-carbonate - it's industry. But the law could say you have to PICK a standard and stay with it. So say all food containers must be PP #5? no mixed caps made from #2 or #4. All PVS must be white and all ABS must be black... kind of already happens in plumbing pipe. exceptions for classes of products... Think of it like HID class drivers. Sure some will bitch that they can't make their product different by confusing the situation-- well, tough, you can't make your bike out of radioactive materials so it glows either.
Tax the exceptions to cover the burden those things impose; that creates incentives to innovate around the taxes.... nothing seems to motivate capitalists more than avoiding taxes... we should capitalize upon that!
Obviously, globalization is a huge huge problem and tariffs need to be done... stronger than in the past and the WTO and our treaties do all seem to totally suck... Trump is right on that; but we need intelligent new ones and he appears unable to beat the bad ones we have already.
I've always been in support of recycling even when I knew as a student all the dumpsters went into the SAME garbage truck (I saw it after school.)
Multiple parts in the process have to ALL be addressed. If you get everybody but jerks recycling that is just the 3rd part of the process. 1st part is regulating what's made, we don't hardly do that.... 2nd part is not buying stupid cheap disposable shit we do not need in the 1st place (that won't ever happen.) + more steps...
China had all those boats full of junk we bought and since they took over, we had nothing to ship back to them so they made $$$ taking our UNSORTED trash without any accountability when they got it back home. Now they don't want our trash, it's not more profitable than just buying the gas for the boat.
If we want recycling to work, we have to not be so LAZY and presort again. Then we have to BAN mixed materials because nobody seriously sorts by looking at those 1-7 labels on the plastic... That isn't even the big thing-- banning stupid things like straws is finally being done. Things like BOTTLES should have remained glass (clean and reuse) like they always were-- it's entirely corporate conspiracy to slander consumers for not recycling their forced TRASH because they want to save pennies on containers (because their competition is cheaper... hence the NEED to regulate a level playing field. just like regulations stop your business from assassinating your competition.)
Government WORKS only if YOU collectively inspect/regulate it same with corporations and the assholes that make up 1/3 of society. We get what we deserve.
Classic republican ideological fanaticism. Normally I don't waste my time... but today I feel like it:
This is not logical thinking; it's an emotional religious belief system rationalized and professed by a cult member who's also likely not so pleased with his new prophet and no matter how much the devil illustrates bad implementations none of the beliefs will waver 1 tiny bit. I could be wrong and this is a Trumptard just hiding in order to promote the religion which got us all into this mess.
"Universal Truths" are most often signs of a fanatic religious belief; disproving them is always extremely easy logically but it's religious so it's hopeless to correct the devoted by reasoning. It takes an intervention amount of effort. So addressing the parent poster directly in a posting is completely useless no matter how well written; the only point would be to get to some people who are leaning that way but are not yet fanatic.
Not 100% of everything and not 100% of the time. Universals are begging for somebody to cite just 1 out of infinite possibilities... The clever opposition always points out any PERCEIVED imperfection as being TOTAL failure --- ironically, the fanatics which employ LOGIC to take down perfect solutions they dislike by citing 1 perception or 1 falsehood always fail to accept the same logic applied to what they believe in; LOOK at the 4 Universal "truths" of the parent and imagine the typical argument that always happens and you've likely seen before for each one. It's part of the definition of being fanatic-- blatant and/or blind hypocritical rationalizations.
Almost everything in life is at least an overly simplified spectrum which most people can grasp....not black and white universals. Reality is likely to be always multidimensional to levels beyond human cognitive ability, but we have to do as well as we can and try to listen to smart specialists to extend our collective limitations.... which are still HUGE... stop patting yourself on the back for being the smarted mammal on the planet. (My fast GPU is better than yours... but neither of us can break AES 256. get the point?) Fanatics need their strong belief to be on strong solid ground for emotional reasons so they rationalize in extreme ways to escape the REALITY of uncertainty. That is not to say everybody exaggerating as a form of emphasis or propaganda is a fanatic; but people who are just preaching it are almost always fanatics looking for ego stroking or converts and no different than religious fanatics. I urge you to find some in a different faith than yours and interact with them on their faith... see if you can pick up what the essence is of fanaticism. It's useful and applies outside of theology.
Taxes are the price for civilization and government is the means by which people are civilized. The higher the population density and the more complex the interactions the bigger government must be. Think simply of practical law enforcement as an example, it has to scale in size with population - that should be obvious! It does not simply scale by adding more cops; you need management of the cops and organizational structural changes then you have associations and tribal behaviors of the cops as a group because humans DO NOT SCALE well and we never evolved to work beyond small tribal communities
(tons of science along these lines, go look.) Compartmentalization is one practical approach but it comes with huge amounts of it's own problems (largely tribal,) it's inherently HUMAN nature that brings about all problems.
If you want a simple primitive government you have to live in a simple primitive society. It's just that simple. It won't be perfect either. But when you invent technologies that ALL have significant risks as well as weapon applications your government has to adapt to those. At some point you WILL reach the limitations of human self-governance where members are not smart enough to manage the complexity and scale of their civilization. We like to BELIEVE humans can scale intellectuall
They really were fighting for THEIR right... to enslave others! All the BS about state rights, personal rights, etc-- was completely BS and exists more today than it did back then; they knew full well it was totally about their right to own slaves. They may not have had any slaves but someday when they are rich... they wanted to be able to own slaves. In addition, the culture created to justify the whole thing motivated a great many people and entrenched attitudes and beliefs which continue to this day--- because as Mark Twain said, "Laws are but sand, culture is rock."
The fight over "way of life" and "traditional values" also never ends as popular culture shifts over time even without people working to nudge it.
Trolling bots all over the web and it is hard to tell anymore which is satire, parody, comedy and what is serious. People have gone off the rails more than Germany in the 1930s... if only we could put a rank on irrationality; not that it would help any as the lemmings will continue running for the cliff regardless (apt metaphor if you think about the irony.)
Employment is a human problem.
FYI, most humans DO NOT LIVE IN THE USA.
Furthermore, if you think citing 1 employer is a rebuttal of my statement assuming it's limited to just one of the BEST performing economies you need practice. Literal simplistic interpretation is slowing you down in argumentative distractions when you could be actually thinking about problems.
You can't even get good unemployment numbers because the only solid number is politically skewed by government to filter out a much larger number of people who are long term unemployed and they also do not properly count underemployed. There are many more underemployed people in the world who do not have enough jobs or a single decent job to lift themselves out from poverty, certainly there are not enough jobs to give everybody gainful employment at a level acceptable to 1st world minimums you must at least recognize this?
So without capital and/or creativity everybody is supposed to create a market for themselves? Supply side economics 101... if you make/do something then the customers will come and buy? (then why do we have massively huge corporate welfare in successful economies?) This situation is not unlike an ART-Based economy which can't work because success in ART is based upon popularity (exclusivity by definition or in economic terms the art market over saturates quickly...)
When robotics and AI boost productivity high enough you can't close your eyes to reality you'll have to face reality.
Employment is a human problem.
FYI, most humans DO NOT LIVE IN THE USA.