According to IBM's figures, there are 30 million Linux systems, of which 23 million are desktops and 7 million servers, plus more than a billion embedded devices.
So in total, there are probably way more Linux than Windows machines out there.
to which Feztaa replied:
Wow, what are your sources on that? It's been my impression that linux has been massively popular on servers, but is just now making inroads on the desktop. I'd be very surprised if linux was 3x as popular on the desktop as it is on the server.
Only a problem with that: 23 million desktops is by no means 3x as popular as 7 million servers. Considering the ammount of servers and desktops out there, 7 million servers is very popular while 23 million desktop is very unpopular. For servers, we've been there for a while. For desktops, we're definitely not there yet.
It supports PNG enough as to substitute GIF in any case.
Your comment makes no sense in this context.
IE doesn't support alpha transparency in PNGs, and that's substandard on their part, but I don't think the web would change much if it did unless everybody started bloating their sites with transparent effects where it is not needed.
Go ahead and block all the mail you want. We are talking about http here, and only Slashdot. The only site to ever ban me (together with several million people).
Of course I complain to Telefónica, and I don't use the mail address they so kindly bundle with their broadband service. The other point you seem to disregard is their virtual monopoly in the country. Basically everything goes through their servers.
Please read the posts you reply to. "Find another ISP" isn't quite an option when there is a monopoly and the competition subcontracts their ranges. Mail is not a problem since I have accounts by dozens, including yahoo, hotmail, gmail, opera, fastmail, etc... plus my own dedicated servers located in the USA. They're not going to block all those.
I've been around well over 10 years and had to use mail interfaces too in the beginning. That doesn't mean pissing off people is OK, and let's not forget about the MILLIONS who don't know how to circunvent this stupid measure. Because this is stopping nobody - those who attack Slashdot from these networks know enough to set up an http proxy.
Mail is not an issue. Web is an issue, because proxies will add you inacceptable lags (besides, they get banned rather often and you have to reconfigure it, which is a PITA).
The issue here is what means are acceptable to stop attacks, tighter security measures for everyone or banning countries en-masse, leaving a bitter heap of collateral damage behind. I'm certainly pissed at slashdot. I've considered becoming a pay member in the past, but I won't ever give a cent to whoever applied those policies.
I also browse the site a lot less, since the experience with the added lag is much worse. I'm positive the same happens to a lot of users in my situation, let alone those who aren't knowledgeable enough to bypass this moronic "security" measure by using a proxy (hint: not the ones attacking the site with scripts).
Mail is a different story. Using a different account is straightforward. I don't know anyone who uses telefonica for mail, but you basically have no option for broadband (it's only telefónica and resellers).
One of the ranges cut off was Telefónica's Proxy-cache. This alone leaves out the majority of the Spanish internet population when it's incidentally turned on.
When we have Jabber. Jabber is as open as a messenger can ever get.
Blockquoth their site:
the Jabber protocols are free, open, public, and easily understandable; in addition, multiple implementations exist for clients, servers, components, and code libraries.
You can run your own server. Jabber is never down, is and will always be open, and doesn't crap over you with ads.
But that doesn't mean I have to be an ass and use more terminology than it's needed, so more people (and not only people with CS backgrounds) can understand.
If you read my post, you will see I mention the H.P. (that was explained in a parent post) and the rest is understandable for almost anyone with, say, secondary education. I believe it's all the education you need to understand this.
You may have CS background, but your divulgative skills are lacking. Otherwise you wouldn't assume all slashdotters understand what is dynamic programming, or probably you're some elitist mofo who likes to show-off in front of everybody.
If you convert in the simple and mechanical way you mention, you are not going to improve the efficiency of the algorithm at all. You wouldn't be doing anything else but what the computer is doing by it's hardware stack (which would probably be faster via hardware optimizations).
What we're talking about here is converting recursive to iterative without using the friggin' stack. That would be finding a mathematically equivalent function that is not recursive. This looks pretty much equivalent to the Halting Problem, or Rice's Theorem for that matter. Trivial for a person in some cases like this, but not easy to generalize.
If there are heuristics to do that effectively, that I don't know. I will check that document you link to when I have the time.
In this case, result caching would do. Result-caching takes memory but it makes sense sometimes (not that often, mind you). One of the problems I see here is memory efficiency isn't considered at all. It's ok if your machine is 100% dedicated to a fancy benchmark, but running some memory-hungry java processes like this in parallel would make your computer start thrashing to the HD to a virtual halt.
These guys couldn't have possibly coded that in a question of months. This means they must have stolen it from Minix. I think I'm going to write a book about it. I'm so smart.
Debian unstable or testing cover that. I don't know how those optimizations were done in the tests, but all the benchmarks I've seen so far Debian is the winner.
I'm a Debian/Slack/freeBSD user who will give Gentoo a shot sometime soon. One think I'd love to do is establishing some kind of standarized benchmarks. Uptime is not everything for the desktop.
1) I had knoppix and to make a HD install is simple enough even for my mom with only minor instruction. Quick, easy and functional and I know it. I knew and had installed Debian before but it's not that because my peeps didn't and they could get it installed.
2) MEPIS website. Sucks bigtime. They list 7 different ways to buy it but not a single way to download it. FAQ doesn't stand for "how to buy it" or "questions I'd love to be asked." After 15 minutes trying to find an FTP download and failing miserably I gave up. Because Knoppix worked anyway and has real support in their and other's page. If I'm kind enough to dedicate my time to trying their distribution out despite having several working alternatives I already know, they should at least don't piss me off with their bullshit.
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to which Feztaa replied:
Only a problem with that: 23 million desktops is by no means 3x as popular as 7 million servers. Considering the ammount of servers and desktops out there, 7 million servers is very popular while 23 million desktop is very unpopular. For servers, we've been there for a while. For desktops, we're definitely not there yet.
UT2004 is a must in any server worth it's salt.
I run UltimateTracker on dosBox, which is really easy to install and works usually better than windows' DOS emulation.
Back up your worldwide, steganographied across your pr0n movies & pics collection.
Satisfaction guaranteed.
I just said the change wouldn't be massive unless people abused it. Try reading whole sentences.
It supports PNG enough as to substitute GIF in any case.
Your comment makes no sense in this context.
IE doesn't support alpha transparency in PNGs, and that's substandard on their part, but I don't think the web would change much if it did unless everybody started bloating their sites with transparent effects where it is not needed.
Go ahead and block all the mail you want. We are talking about http here, and only Slashdot. The only site to ever ban me (together with several million people).
Of course I complain to Telefónica, and I don't use the mail address they so kindly bundle with their broadband service. The other point you seem to disregard is their virtual monopoly in the country. Basically everything goes through their servers.
Please read the posts you reply to. "Find another ISP" isn't quite an option when there is a monopoly and the competition subcontracts their ranges. Mail is not a problem since I have accounts by dozens, including yahoo, hotmail, gmail, opera, fastmail, etc... plus my own dedicated servers located in the USA. They're not going to block all those.
I've been around well over 10 years and had to use mail interfaces too in the beginning. That doesn't mean pissing off people is OK, and let's not forget about the MILLIONS who don't know how to circunvent this stupid measure. Because this is stopping nobody - those who attack Slashdot from these networks know enough to set up an http proxy.
Mail is not an issue. Web is an issue, because proxies will add you inacceptable lags (besides, they get banned rather often and you have to reconfigure it, which is a PITA).
The issue here is what means are acceptable to stop attacks, tighter security measures for everyone or banning countries en-masse, leaving a bitter heap of collateral damage behind. I'm certainly pissed at slashdot. I've considered becoming a pay member in the past, but I won't ever give a cent to whoever applied those policies.
I also browse the site a lot less, since the experience with the added lag is much worse. I'm positive the same happens to a lot of users in my situation, let alone those who aren't knowledgeable enough to bypass this moronic "security" measure by using a proxy (hint: not the ones attacking the site with scripts).
Mail is a different story. Using a different account is straightforward. I don't know anyone who uses telefonica for mail, but you basically have no option for broadband (it's only telefónica and resellers).
I have to use a proxy to browse Slashdot from my home connection (and had to do the same from my office connection for a while).
For some reason, Slashdot has decided to ban whole ranges from the biggest providers in Spain.
Right now, more than half of the Spanish internet population is banned from Slashdot. This was virtually the whole Spain for some time.
I've written several emails to Rob "CmdrTaco" Malda, only to receive a "hey, I'm sorry about that" and I still have to use a proxy.
You can read more about this here (Spanish)
One of the ranges cut off was Telefónica's Proxy-cache. This alone leaves out the majority of the Spanish internet population when it's incidentally turned on.
7) include tags so morons like parent get it's a joke
Blockquoth their site:
You can run your own server. Jabber is never down, is and will always be open, and doesn't crap over you with ads.
That's why I studied three times more Prolog than LISP ;)
But that doesn't mean I have to be an ass and use more terminology than it's needed, so more people (and not only people with CS backgrounds) can understand.
If you read my post, you will see I mention the H.P. (that was explained in a parent post) and the rest is understandable for almost anyone with, say, secondary education. I believe it's all the education you need to understand this.
You may have CS background, but your divulgative skills are lacking. Otherwise you wouldn't assume all slashdotters understand what is dynamic programming, or probably you're some elitist mofo who likes to show-off in front of everybody.
HAND (Have A Nice Day)
If you convert in the simple and mechanical way you mention, you are not going to improve the efficiency of the algorithm at all. You wouldn't be doing anything else but what the computer is doing by it's hardware stack (which would probably be faster via hardware optimizations).
What we're talking about here is converting recursive to iterative without using the friggin' stack. That would be finding a mathematically equivalent function that is not recursive. This looks pretty much equivalent to the Halting Problem, or Rice's Theorem for that matter. Trivial for a person in some cases like this, but not easy to generalize.
If there are heuristics to do that effectively, that I don't know. I will check that document you link to when I have the time.
In this case, result caching would do. Result-caching takes memory but it makes sense sometimes (not that often, mind you). One of the problems I see here is memory efficiency isn't considered at all. It's ok if your machine is 100% dedicated to a fancy benchmark, but running some memory-hungry java processes like this in parallel would make your computer start thrashing to the HD to a virtual halt.
cometh to Google
I'd modded him funny.
I don't remember last time I heard this kind of bullshit. I think it was Carl Sagan filling in at the end of some documentary.
These guys couldn't have possibly coded that in a question of months. This means they must have stolen it from Minix. I think I'm going to write a book about it. I'm so smart.
Debian unstable or testing cover that. I don't know how those optimizations were done in the tests, but all the benchmarks I've seen so far Debian is the winner.
I'm a Debian/Slack/freeBSD user who will give Gentoo a shot sometime soon. One think I'd love to do is establishing some kind of standarized benchmarks. Uptime is not everything for the desktop.
is here. Late is better than never.
It's I don't pay for things I know scraps about.
1) I had knoppix and to make a HD install is simple enough even for my mom with only minor instruction. Quick, easy and functional and I know it. I knew and had installed Debian before but it's not that because my peeps didn't and they could get it installed.
2) MEPIS website. Sucks bigtime. They list 7 different ways to buy it but not a single way to download it. FAQ doesn't stand for "how to buy it" or "questions I'd love to be asked." After 15 minutes trying to find an FTP download and failing miserably I gave up. Because Knoppix worked anyway and has real support in their and other's page. If I'm kind enough to dedicate my time to trying their distribution out despite having several working alternatives I already know, they should at least don't piss me off with their bullshit.
They're japanese dude - that was their first thought too!
Whale... let it in
tuna... back to the sea