I used to think standards were a good idea. It would be wonderful if everything could interoperate like it's supposed to. More and more though with the rampant effects if both technical attack in the from of worms and sploits in addition to the Ass*ole attacts in the form of patents and lawsuits, we need to look back to nature. Nature always assures a certain level of diversity within a species so that one event won't likely wipe out every organism. We should forget standards and let everyone do thire *own thing* that way noone will be able to leverage something like a gif a patent or supposed ownership of some code to extort money from the entire industry. Besides if nothing is interoperable out of the box there will be more jobs for us develops who are interested in middleware. So here we are standards are bad, the OSS comunity needs to start developing new kernels with their own unique character encoding schema as well as new operating enviornments to run on them with total incompatibility with all know file formats.
I totally agree. There is no reason to embarce this technology at all. It does nothing that can't be done already with more open stuffs. Why should we embrace new closed tech, it dose nothing but put us in patent danger. Embrace and extend danger etc etc.
Probably because there is no place besides slashdot to ask this stuff. Good or Bad, right or wrong slashdot is probably the largest focal point of the OSS community. I do hope when people ask legal questions here they seek a philisophical debate rather then *the answer* because they will never get the later, out of this croud. Still the must be a fair number of people in a group this large that can say IBAL it would be nice if those folks could cime in a little more and even better if they could get modded UP!
Umm, if you can't read what exactly is there online for you other then porn. I am so tired of all this politically correct oh but what about the minorites BULL SHIT~! People need to be responsible for them selves everyone should get the same treatment. I don't care if you grew up in the inner-city and nobody tought you to read. You could have taken it upon yourself to go down the library and figureout the basics. Now you don't know how and I should not be required to make some sort of allowance for you. If you can't pass the test or read the acceptable use policy you can't use the systems that simple.
I think that is a really dangerous statement to make to because, you are required to hold on to all resumes that are submitted to you. I worked on a document managment system at the company I worked at for the single perpouse of storeing all the resumes we get. I was told we were legally required to keep each one even if they were never even entertained.
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Yea, no more QT crap, finnally GNOME will be THE open source desktop.
Ok, there is nothing but a ram drive this thing writes to. That means you would have to generate keys everytime the system boots. This things are VERY slow in terms of cpu power so you really don't want to be using strong encryption. Telnet is not EVIL it is what it is. It is a clear text protocol. There is nothing insecure about that. Telnet is as secure as its users. On a local *swiched* lan for instance its pretty safe, but it would be bad over shared media, or GOD for bid anytime you don't control all the hosts that will be relaying packet. I personaly would avoid it for wireless myself as well. To never use telnet is just ignorant though. In the right situation telnet does not jepordize security, and its much better then ssh where system and network resources are concerned.
I have linux on my IPAQ 3875, I know some people are usinging it on their 39XX IPAQs for that Xscale goodness. I think my StrongARM is more then fast enough though. This intel thing is reall not *much* smaller then my IPAQ + compact flash sleve + microdrive. It probably won't be *much* cheaper anyway because all you really are getting rid of is the display. Yes this will lower the cost but not more then 25% I would imagine. So why not the personal server software on a PDA platform where you DO have I/O incase there is no other pc around. It seems so easy to have the best of both worlds here. I already do. I use remote X to display my PDA on my home and work PCs, its really nice for data entry. I could eaisly run and instance of httpd on the IPAQ as well to get closer to the ture concept here but I would never want to not have the touch screen as hard as it is to work with sometime I want to look of a phone number when there are no desktops or laptops around. PDA/personal_server seems like a much better idea to me.
Now, I have an answer when my firends keep asking why I am *wasting* money backing up to Jaz disks when I could be using $0.14 cdr disks. Hahaha and They called me MAD.
IANAL but I do know./ers need to at least try and understand the difference between criminal and cival law. The FEDs might prosecute you for trading copywrited materials just like they or the state may charge you with murder if you kill someone while driving under the influence. You are correct the FEDs are not going to charge you or at least convict you for copywirte infringement if you got hacked and someone else used your box without you knowing. However civial liablity knows no end. If your car is used by your friend and he kills someone the decesed's family can probably sue you and win for your carelessness in loaning your car to your buddy you should have know was a druk. The MPAA will say you should have secured your box and prevented its miss use by others, you own the box you made the infringement possible so you are responsible. THAT IS TOTALLY F*up I KNOW BUT IT IS ENOUGH for a substantial judgement against you.
It sounds more to me like M$ gets an oppertunity to buy the right to do *anything* they want to members who participated in the suit for a mere 48 million. I bet they plan to recoup that investment eventally.
Holf on here. Nobody ever tried to copy anything except maybe the windows UI. Which actaully depending on the version of windows read no XP does not suck. There are better out though and they are more widely used then the windows alikes. KDE and Gnome for instance do not resemble the windows UI any more then they resemble the MAC UI. Nobody has ever copied IE or Outlook because you can't copy something that is already a rip-off, maybe you did not know this but there were contact managers before outlook, Goldmine for one Lotus Notes, I could go on forever, and there was a browser suite before IE/outlook it was call Netscape Navagator, those are what people have tried to copy, just like M$ has. Microshaft has NEVER done anything resmbling innovation all they have done is recognized products by small firms knock them off and bring them to the masses. Double space came of them ripping off Stacker. Windows came when they ripped off MAC OS. Office came when then ripped off Wordperfect, and combined it with Lotus 123. I could go on here too. Microsoft does suck, suck up all the good ideas that is.
Most of us would like to see more comercial software for Linux. The main reason being because Linux is a great OS. Don't get me wrong Linux itself and lots of the other free software apps are world class deserve support and recognition. I use them every day. There are however certain areas where there is a void that needs to be filled. Comercial ports could fill those voids but it is this kinda of behavior that scares them off. They know if they do anything good. RMS is gonna knock it off. BK is being used to develop the kernal for one reason and one reason only it is the best tool for the job. I always use free software as my first choice if there us a mature project out there but if there is not I still need to get work done so I will use a comerical product if I need to. We should not scare commercial developers away like this. If RMS thinks he can make a better BK now that is a different story all together but I get the impression form the way he worded it he really just entends to rip off the client. GNU tools have historicly been better then their comercial cousins, and won acceptance based on merit. Let's not change that by makeing cheap rip-offs
The entire point of the project is to preserver the content in a format that is both human and machine readable. See if I don't have any software from the present here in fifteen years and XML is long dead I will still be able to read standard ASCII text even if I am just cat(ing) it through less or printing it as is. I can't resonably read a book that is filled with XML tags and if there is no longer software to parse them then its not to useful. I am not saying that it would be hard to write such software but, the concept is to make sure its easy and always easy to get the data. Also they do put chapter breaks in as text so if you want to find one most wordprocs and e-book readers these days even the fifteen year old ones can find text strings.
Considering Linux is open source, how do we know they just did not download the kernel source or what ever system softwere this is supposed to be from and select some code to claim they wrote? I mean if I were totaly desperate and would do anything to survie in SCOs position it seems awful easy to get a copy of linux open up one of the many.c files and claim it was mine.
I have not heard from any of my firends who also work in IT.(I work at MCPC) of any customers actually experiencing this just noise on the internet. It also seems like it does to much to be a worm, doing all that stuff would require a huge payload. Does anyone know for sure if this is real other then then the buch of kiddies on here that think "oh winders crashed it must be a virus"?
This is a scary time for all of us non M$ OS/browser users but there are lots of possibilites. This is the point where what we do vs. What the M$ users do will begin to diverge. Back in the day there were completly different applications for MAC vs. DOS/Windows people who used MACs did lots of multi media and artsy type stuff and DOS users played some games and ran Lotus 123. Both plat forms had there own file formats and types people released videos in both quicktime and AVI, if they wanted both audiences to have at it. We can survice without being able to do everything Windblows can do if we can do the core things people want and have our own productivity applications(in the type of tool since not the specific program sense) that windows can't. Lets be different people, who do different stuff just like the MAC/DOS divide of old, lets be separate groups that are treated separate but equal ways, the way MAC/PC always has been and in many ways still is. Lets be "open source" let that be the name that defines us! We just need to find some killer apps and and at the same time lose the "I want be like Bill" attitude and we will survie and thrive.
Well in that case you really should not bother as a slackware user people might think your nuts but certainly you are the brightest of your peers because you have found the best distro in existance and aquired the skills to use it. Slackware forever!
I don't know the history of O'Reilly press so I can't comment on if what you say is true or not, but some of us have this idea of forgiveness and that people/corporations can make amends. So even if they did once slander open soure they have since relized they were wrong and reformed their ways to become one of the strongest proponents. They are helping us now and have been long enough that I am convinced they are more then just fair weather friends and we should embrace them. Hell if Microsoft wants to reform their ways I will take them back and happily drop my prejustices agains their product and would consider it on equal terms with anything else.
There is one qoute on that page that SCO should look hard at. Bruce: "Linux is the successor to UNIX" That is very true SCO UNIX(your product) is dead, just like cp/m was replaced by DOS, DOS was not is not cp/m, but the replacement. Linux will be around for a while yet and UNIXware wont.
We should publish this in as many places as possible so that noone make a fair deal with M$ after all now as an IT manager you know if you want 90% off all your windows licenses just tell the M$ sales rep that you are seriously considering swiching to linux or *BSD for all your desktops and servers. This is great M$ either looses money hand over fist handing out free copies of their software or they have to give up this anti-competitive strategy. Either way they just lost this little battle.
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I used to think standards were a good idea. It would be wonderful if everything could interoperate like it's supposed to. More and more though with the rampant effects if both technical attack in the from of worms and sploits in addition to the Ass*ole attacts in the form of patents and lawsuits, we need to look back to nature. Nature always assures a certain level of diversity within a species so that one event won't likely wipe out every organism. We should forget standards and let everyone do thire *own thing* that way noone will be able to leverage something like a gif a patent or supposed ownership of some code to extort money from the entire industry. Besides if nothing is interoperable out of the box there will be more jobs for us develops who are interested in middleware. So here we are standards are bad, the OSS comunity needs to start developing new kernels with their own unique character encoding schema as well as new operating enviornments to run on them with total incompatibility with all know file formats.
I totally agree. There is no reason to embarce this technology at all. It does nothing that can't be done already with more open stuffs. Why should we embrace new closed tech, it dose nothing but put us in patent danger. Embrace and extend danger etc etc.
Probably because there is no place besides slashdot to ask this stuff. Good or Bad, right or wrong slashdot is probably the largest focal point of the OSS community. I do hope when people ask legal questions here they seek a philisophical debate rather then *the answer* because they will never get the later, out of this croud. Still the must be a fair number of people in a group this large that can say IBAL it would be nice if those folks could cime in a little more and even better if they could get modded UP!
Umm, if you can't read what exactly is there online for you other then porn. I am so tired of all this politically correct oh but what about the minorites BULL SHIT~! People need to be responsible for them selves everyone should get the same treatment. I don't care if you grew up in the inner-city and nobody tought you to read. You could have taken it upon yourself to go down the library and figureout the basics. Now you don't know how and I should not be required to make some sort of allowance for you. If you can't pass the test or read the acceptable use policy you can't use the systems that simple.
I think that is a really dangerous statement to make to because, you are required to hold on to all resumes that are submitted to you. I worked on a document managment system at the company I worked at for the single perpouse of storeing all the resumes we get. I was told we were legally required to keep each one even if they were never even entertained.
Yea, no more QT crap, finnally GNOME will be THE open source desktop.
lets look at the situations most scientists wold be in.
I have an interest in researching X.
X has many applications, some military.
I don't like the idea of the militarty applications I think it raises to many ethical questions.
Its just as wrong to not develop X because of the social benifits X could provice.
If I develop X the pentagon will use it wether I take money from them or not.
I will develop X
I will take the pentagon money because it will facilitate the development of X and by me a new car.
That is the logic that anyone would go through it makes no since to do anything different.
Ok, there is nothing but a ram drive this thing writes to. That means you would have to generate keys everytime the system boots. This things are VERY slow in terms of cpu power so you really don't want to be using strong encryption. Telnet is not EVIL it is what it is. It is a clear text protocol. There is nothing insecure about that. Telnet is as secure as its users. On a local *swiched* lan for instance its pretty safe, but it would be bad over shared media, or GOD for bid anytime you don't control all the hosts that will be relaying packet. I personaly would avoid it for wireless myself as well. To never use telnet is just ignorant though. In the right situation telnet does not jepordize security, and its much better then ssh where system and network resources are concerned.
I have linux on my IPAQ 3875, I know some people are usinging it on their 39XX IPAQs for that Xscale goodness. I think my StrongARM is more then fast enough though. This intel thing is reall not *much* smaller then my IPAQ + compact flash sleve + microdrive. It probably won't be *much* cheaper anyway because all you really are getting rid of is the display. Yes this will lower the cost but not more then 25% I would imagine. So why not the personal server software on a PDA platform where you DO have I/O incase there is no other pc around. It seems so easy to have the best of both worlds here. I already do. I use remote X to display my PDA on my home and work PCs, its really nice for data entry. I could eaisly run and instance of httpd on the IPAQ as well to get closer to the ture concept here but I would never want to not have the touch screen as hard as it is to work with sometime I want to look of a phone number when there are no desktops or laptops around. PDA/personal_server seems like a much better idea to me.
Now, I have an answer when my firends keep asking why I am *wasting* money backing up to Jaz disks when I could be using $0.14 cdr disks. Hahaha and They called me MAD.
IANAL but I do know ./ers need to at least try and understand the difference between criminal and cival law. The FEDs might prosecute you for trading copywrited materials just like they or the state may charge you with murder if you kill someone while driving under the influence. You are correct the FEDs are not going to charge you or at least convict you for copywirte infringement if you got hacked and someone else used your box without you knowing. However civial liablity knows no end. If your car is used by your friend and he kills someone the decesed's family can probably sue you and win for your carelessness in loaning your car to your buddy you should have know was a druk. The MPAA will say you should have secured your box and prevented its miss use by others, you own the box you made the infringement possible so you are responsible. THAT IS TOTALLY F*up I KNOW BUT IT IS ENOUGH for a substantial judgement against you.
It sounds more to me like M$ gets an oppertunity to buy the right to do *anything* they want to members who participated in the suit for a mere 48 million. I bet they plan to recoup that investment eventally.
Holf on here. Nobody ever tried to copy anything except maybe the windows UI. Which actaully depending on the version of windows read no XP does not suck. There are better out though and they are more widely used then the windows alikes. KDE and Gnome for instance do not resemble the windows UI any more then they resemble the MAC UI. Nobody has ever copied IE or Outlook because you can't copy something that is already a rip-off, maybe you did not know this but there were contact managers before outlook, Goldmine for one Lotus Notes, I could go on forever, and there was a browser suite before IE/outlook it was call Netscape Navagator, those are what people have tried to copy, just like M$ has. Microshaft has NEVER done anything resmbling innovation all they have done is recognized products by small firms knock them off and bring them to the masses. Double space came of them ripping off Stacker. Windows came when they ripped off MAC OS. Office came when then ripped off Wordperfect, and combined it with Lotus 123. I could go on here too.
Microsoft does suck, suck up all the good ideas that is.
Most of us would like to see more comercial software for Linux. The main reason being because Linux is a great OS. Don't get me wrong Linux itself and lots of the other free software apps are world class deserve support and recognition. I use them every day. There are however certain areas where there is a void that needs to be filled. Comercial ports could fill those voids but it is this kinda of behavior that scares them off. They know if they do anything good. RMS is gonna knock it off. BK is being used to develop the kernal for one reason and one reason only it is the best tool for the job. I always use free software as my first choice if there us a mature project out there but if there is not I still need to get work done so I will use a comerical product if I need to. We should not scare commercial developers away like this. If RMS thinks he can make a better BK now that is a different story all together but I get the impression form the way he worded it he really just entends to rip off the client. GNU tools have historicly been better then their comercial cousins, and won acceptance based on merit. Let's not change that by makeing cheap rip-offs
The entire point of the project is to preserver the content in a format that is both human and machine readable. See if I don't have any software from the present here in fifteen years and XML is long dead I will still be able to read standard ASCII text even if I am just cat(ing) it through less or printing it as is. I can't resonably read a book that is filled with XML tags and if there is no longer software to parse them then its not to useful. I am not saying that it would be hard to write such software but, the concept is to make sure its easy and always easy to get the data. Also they do put chapter breaks in as text so if you want to find one most wordprocs and e-book readers these days even the fifteen year old ones can find text strings.
Considering Linux is open source, how do we know they just did not download the kernel source or what ever system softwere this is supposed to be from and select some code to claim they wrote? I mean if I were totaly desperate and would do anything to survie in SCOs position it seems awful easy to get a copy of linux open up one of the many .c files and claim it was mine.
I have not heard from any of my firends who also work in IT.(I work at MCPC) of any customers actually experiencing this just noise on the internet. It also seems like it does to much to be a worm, doing all that stuff would require a huge payload. Does anyone know for sure if this is real other then then the buch of kiddies on here that think "oh winders crashed it must be a virus"?
This is a scary time for all of us non M$ OS/browser users but there are lots of possibilites. This is the point where what we do vs. What the M$ users do will begin to diverge. Back in the day there were completly different applications for MAC vs. DOS/Windows people who used MACs did lots of multi media and artsy type stuff and DOS users played some games and ran Lotus 123. Both plat forms had there own file formats and types people released videos in both quicktime and AVI, if they wanted both audiences to have at it. We can survice without being able to do everything Windblows can do if we can do the core things people want and have our own productivity applications(in the type of tool since not the specific program sense) that windows can't. Lets be different people, who do different stuff just like the MAC/DOS divide of old, lets be separate groups that are treated separate but equal ways, the way MAC/PC always has been and in many ways still is. Lets be "open source" let that be the name that defines us! We just need to find some killer apps and and at the same time lose the "I want be like Bill" attitude and we will survie and thrive.
Well in that case you really should not bother as a slackware user people might think your nuts but certainly you are the brightest of your peers because you have found the best distro in existance and aquired the skills to use it. Slackware forever!
They are using XUL.
Wow, I would laugh but that sounds a little to familiar, like when I tried to compile DN3d the other day.
I don't know the history of O'Reilly press so I can't comment on if what you say is true or not, but some of us have this idea of forgiveness and that people/corporations can make amends. So even if they did once slander open soure they have since relized they were wrong and reformed their ways to become one of the strongest proponents. They are helping us now and have been long enough that I am convinced they are more then just fair weather friends and we should embrace them. Hell if Microsoft wants to reform their ways I will take them back and happily drop my prejustices agains their product and would consider it on equal terms with anything else.
I think the answer to your question in plain english is:
"Maybe, if those are being run on an SMP box"
There is one qoute on that page that SCO should look hard at. Bruce: "Linux is the successor to UNIX" That is very true SCO UNIX(your product) is dead, just like cp/m was replaced by DOS, DOS was not is not cp/m, but the replacement. Linux will be around for a while yet and UNIXware wont.
We should publish this in as many places as possible so that noone make a fair deal with M$ after all now as an IT manager you know if you want 90% off all your windows licenses just tell the M$ sales rep that you are seriously considering swiching to linux or *BSD for all your desktops and servers. This is great M$ either looses money hand over fist handing out free copies of their software or they have to give up this anti-competitive strategy. Either way they just lost this little battle.