Ok, you teach my mom how to transfer files some other way then.
Trust me, I've tried. But nothing is easier than dropbox. She clicks the folder, drags and drops, and done. Anything else requires logins and passwords and remembering how to do things and where to go and where to click. She knows how to move files around in a file system. That's all that dropbox requires.
The damage that removing ROMs from the internet could do to video games as a whole is catastrophic.....Many game developers made video games a major part of their lives....denying people access to ROMs makes the process of educating them in game development much more difficult, potentially hobbling future generations of video game makers.
Bullshit. Old Nintendo ROMs aren't teaching anyone about game development other than how to try to work around horrific hardware limitations. Limitations that even the phone in my pocket doesn't have today.
I'm sorry. I've tried go to back to the games that I loved from yesteryear, and most of them were absolute rubbish. If all the Nintendo ROMs go away today, there will be no significant impact to the world. There have been thousands of derivative works since that time, and they've built on the incrementally better hardware and game design theory that we've built over time.
ROMs are the vinyl 45s or 8-tracks of the music industry. Sure, you might be a collector, but to ascribe to them the level of importance to the art that TFA does to ROMs is asinine.
No you twat. The GP explained it clearly. Up to 80 hrs is already marketing bullshit. "40-80 hrs under normal usage" would be far more honest. "Up to 80+ hrs" is complete horseshit, doesn't mean anything, and is totally dishonest.
If you're ok with that sort of language, you're part of the problem.
Any job that requires any kind of actual skill will be filled in different ways by different people, because you have to bring your personality into it if skill is needed.
As an example of this, I was hired to fill a position (turns out it was two of them...) where the tradition had been to do a lot of manual work, and rely upon institutional knowledge of legacy systems. I was selected for an interview not because I was good at or had these things, but because I had strong skills in parallel areas.
My experience was in modernizing a vaguely similar system, but not one that you'd immediately recognize as similar enough to the system I was hired to work on/in. The people making interview decisions understood that if I was the right candidate for the job, that experience would transfer laterally. In addition, they were ok with me modifying that modernizing the system I was moving into, so their expectation was that I would not fill the exact same role as the previous employees.
This isn't something that AI will be able to successfully figure out for quite some time yet. Over time it should get better and get there, but I expect that to take a long time. Intuition and creative problem solving are going to be some of the last things that AI is going to be able to tackle.
You might want to look up what a conspiracy is legally. Because that's textbook what's been done here by Trump and team. Funny thing about conspiracy....you don't have to be successful to get charged. You just have to organize to do something illegal, and/or try to cover up that plot.
You know.....like meet with representatives of a hostile foreign government to try to sway an election, and then lie and say it was a meeting about adoptions. That's pretty much textbook conspiracy, and very much a chargeable federal offense.
When I was in college, I had an account with one. Student fees were auto-debited from my account, and the college business office accidentally chose my savings account rather than checking account. Then proceeded to hammer it every hour for the money for two days before the credit union called me and was like, "Um, you need to tell them to stop." Note that the college didn't bother to let me know.
I straightened it out with the college, went to the credit union, and each one had gotten me a $25 overdraft. I explained to the teller, (yes, teller behind the counter, nobody higher up than that) and they said, "Yeah, that sucks. I'll just reverse all of them." 5 minutes later everything was fine.
When you have to choose between an organization which needs to make as much money off of you as possible and one which doesn't, I'm not sure why anyone would choose the one that by definition needs to fuck you as hard as possible without making you leave. My local credit union even prints credit/debit cards on-demand, which is super helpful when one gets lost or compromised.
So I'll raise your nazis a "think of the children".
Specifically, think of your underage daughter who was convinced to take some nudes. Nudes that someone has decided to spread all over. Now, what do you as a parent do? What do you do about the deep fakes which involve you personally?
If this is the current censored web, you have some recompense, and you can be sure that the FBI will be looking for the people who are making, hosting and sharing those images. In the decentralized anon web, the solutions are limited.
I'm not arguing for censorship, but there does need to be a thought for how to handle outright abuse and criminal activity. If I don't want to see child porn, there needs to be a mechanism for black/gray/white listing content, as well as people. If someone wants to spam me and everyone I know with deepfakes of me doing disgusting shit, there needs to be some reputation mechanism to dampen that sort of abuse.
As an example, I browse/. at +2. Friends get a +2 so they tend to be visible, foes a -2 so they don't show up unless they are saying something a lot of people think is useful, and anon gets a -1, because they're generally shitty and spammy. All those comments are still there, but there's at least some filtering. Friends of friends and friends of foes can inherit some of that moderation, to help smooth things out.
To your nazi example, I'd point to the historic/. trolls. GNAA, Moo Cow, APK, etc. They have existed and in some cases still exist, and largely are invisible to most. If you want to wallow in the filth, it's there, but there's a mechanism to keep people's ankles clean.
If we decentralize the web, there's going to have to be a mechanism at least as good as/.'s, or nobody is going to want to use that platform except said trolls. At that point, might as well just go to 4chan and be done with it.
But the flip side is that the reason the system exists in the first place is us. Specifically us buying stuff. With the money we made being paid to be part of the system.
Remove us from the system and the system can't financially exist unless we get paid some other way.
Having taught and having a few college degrees in different subjects under my belt, including an education degree, I concur entirely.
There is no "fun" way to learn calculus. Sure, you can use it to solve interesting problems, but the raw mechanics of calc and differential equations aren't things you can master by doing anything other than rote work. Sure, you can potentially teach the underlying concepts in an interesting and fun way, but there's a wide gulf between understanding what something does or how it works and actually being able to do it yourself. To bridge that gulf you often need dedication and perseverance and the willingness to endure a whole lot of suck in the process.
That said, all too often teachers think that everything needs to be constructed like that, or that nothing does. I've seen more of the former, but I have seen some of the latter. I once had a professor who claimed that you could learn math without numbers. That everything in math could be learned conceptually. After some pushing back on my part, including asking how they would explain ratios or slopes without numbers, they finally admitted that the last math they took was Algebra 2 thirty years prior, and that they had failed it.
At the other end, we have all the professors who just stand in front of a class and drone on and on, assuming that the students are "empty vessels" waiting to be filled. That everything will make sense to them if they just pay attention, memorize everything, and do hundreds of problems for homework.
We need a good balance in teaching, and teachers, students, and especially parents need to understand that. Right tool for the right job and all.
I know. A decade or more ago I was trolling with fake news pretty successfully. I was just doing it for laughs, however. I think the real issue is that we've learned to monetize outrage very effectively, which means there's a real market for it.
When you decided that you wanted to live in a civil society and not a police state beholden to a military industrial complex sucking up all your tax dollars.
So your "solution" is to take everyone who might be against us, put them all in the same place, and make them miserable? Great idea!
Do you want jihadists? Because that's how you get jihadists.
Here's a better idea: Socialize these folks. Show them that what they think they hate isn't what they think it is. Listen to them. Figure out why they are angry. Work to assuage their fears, and make sure that they have what they need to live happy, comfortable lives.
And sure, this won't work for 100% of people. Adios is indeed the solution to them. But it will work for a damn good number of people. What you don't seem to realize is that immigrants aren't going to another country because they're happy and having a great time in their country. They're leaving because they are threatened, impoverished, or otherwise unable to have a fulfilling life in their home country.
If you shit all over those people, you're just making enemies. If you can make them feel welcome, you've not only gotten a friend, but you've now got ambassadors who can reduce the amount of hatred in their home country for yours. That's how you reduce all of the issues you identify, instead of increasing them they way your suggestions would actually function.
I think what businesses will offer in exchange for services will need to change radically, however. You won't be able to abuse your employees if they don't need to work to survive.
As an example, one of my first jobs was in some spare space in a basement. It wasn't really well climate controlled, ventilated, or lighted. But I needed the money. Had UBI been around, I wouldn't have done that job, and most other people wouldn't have either. Now, move that upstairs to a clean, nicely-lit space, and focus on skills acquisition to help me find a better job later, and I'm likely in. It would have been pretty much the same work, but the focus would be on making me happy, rather than getting the job done and fuck how the employee feels about doing it.
I see a lot of jobs running into the same issue. You need to make the employee want to be there if they don't need to be there. You're going to need to put good ventilation in your kitchen and staff it fully. You're going to need to revise your policy of "4:30 show, 5am go". Siestas are going to become a thing in the US because people aren't going to find working in 110F heat all that appealing. Either that, or the pay is going to have to go up a lot for many jobs.
On the flip side, there's going to be some real competition for "fun" jobs. Pretty much anything that someone might enjoy they can now do without requiring that it provide them a living wage. Dog walking, child care, creating art, music, literature, cooking for small amounts of people, gardening, interior design, mechanical work, hell, maybe even programming.
The cost of employees is going to shift a lot, and I bet in a number of very unexpected directions.
Pointless makework doesn't help society. Pointless makework that doesn't get done or done well, and you can't fire people from (not) doing is just asinine. And then you're making makework for people to monitor and administrate this pointless program.
Just give people the money. If they waste it, they waste it. If even small percent use it to springboard their life into something better, that's a higher net value than if they had just done makework.
Yep. It comes down to a cost-benefit analysis by the business. Does the power go out often enough to make it worth having a backup system, training staff, and practicing it a few times a year? If so, is doing business during the outage worth the cost of the backup system?
I've been in stores which chose different paths, like you and the GP here. I understand why they chose they way they did.
This is exactly the idea behind Microsoft's forced updates: most people are never applying updates, which causes problems...
Which I noted in another thread is mostly because of how fucking awful their updates are. They are maddeningly slow resource hogs with massive and random interruptions. They are inconsistent and provide no information about what they're doing, how long it will take, and sometimes crank so hard behind the scenes that other programs stop responding.
Why the fuck can't they do a reasonable update? Who the hell thought "Updating, don't lose power or force-shutdown or it will bork your OS" was a good idea? Why do we get extra-long boots sometimes for something? Why do we reboot, and then need to install more shit, and reboot again? Why do we sometimes boot part-way and do some shit, finish booting most of the way, then reboot, then do some more shit, and finally get to a login screen 10 minutes later?
This level of shittiness is exactly why people resist updates. If you make something obnoxious and painful, of course people will not do that thing. Unfortunately Microsoft has done this for so long that everyone is conditioned to avoid updates like the plague. Even if they made it smooth, quiet, and slick, most people won't choose to do it because of their past (and current) history of being abusive twats.
Even waiting until log-off isn't a solution some of the time. As I posted above, sometimes I need to shutdown, grab the laptop and go. When my only options are Cancel, Update and Restart, and Update and Shutdown, Microsoft has decided that their time is more important than mine. I just force shutdown at that point.
The biggest issue is that Windows updates are inexplicably resource-intensive and disruptive. Updates on my Linux boxes don't noticeably impact performance, and don't generally disrupt work and require multiple reboots and inexplicably long boots/shutdowns.
I think Windows updates have been so abusive and disruptive for so long that they are responsible for conditioning people to ignore them. Had they been quiet, sensible updates, they wouldn't be doing all of this shit to try to get people to stay updated.
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I'm just going to install dropbox in WINE.
Ok, you teach my mom how to transfer files some other way then.
Trust me, I've tried. But nothing is easier than dropbox. She clicks the folder, drags and drops, and done. Anything else requires logins and passwords and remembering how to do things and where to go and where to click. She knows how to move files around in a file system. That's all that dropbox requires.
The hyperbole in TFS is insane.
The damage that removing ROMs from the internet could do to video games as a whole is catastrophic.....Many game developers made video games a major part of their lives....denying people access to ROMs makes the process of educating them in game development much more difficult, potentially hobbling future generations of video game makers.
Bullshit. Old Nintendo ROMs aren't teaching anyone about game development other than how to try to work around horrific hardware limitations. Limitations that even the phone in my pocket doesn't have today.
I'm sorry. I've tried go to back to the games that I loved from yesteryear, and most of them were absolute rubbish. If all the Nintendo ROMs go away today, there will be no significant impact to the world. There have been thousands of derivative works since that time, and they've built on the incrementally better hardware and game design theory that we've built over time.
ROMs are the vinyl 45s or 8-tracks of the music industry. Sure, you might be a collector, but to ascribe to them the level of importance to the art that TFA does to ROMs is asinine.
No you twat. The GP explained it clearly. Up to 80 hrs is already marketing bullshit. "40-80 hrs under normal usage" would be far more honest. "Up to 80+ hrs" is complete horseshit, doesn't mean anything, and is totally dishonest.
If you're ok with that sort of language, you're part of the problem.
My 2 cents. Might've gone off-topic a bit though... Sorry about that.
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At least you know. And that's half the battle, isn't it?
Everyone who is cool and with it does this. If you don't, you self-select as an old fogie, out of touch with the cool hip people.
You're never going to get ahead in life if you keep pulling out that hunk of aged plastic the size and shape of a deck of playing cards.
You missed the point of the GP. They said,
Any job that requires any kind of actual skill will be filled in different ways by different people, because you have to bring your personality into it if skill is needed.
As an example of this, I was hired to fill a position (turns out it was two of them...) where the tradition had been to do a lot of manual work, and rely upon institutional knowledge of legacy systems. I was selected for an interview not because I was good at or had these things, but because I had strong skills in parallel areas.
My experience was in modernizing a vaguely similar system, but not one that you'd immediately recognize as similar enough to the system I was hired to work on/in. The people making interview decisions understood that if I was the right candidate for the job, that experience would transfer laterally. In addition, they were ok with me modifying that modernizing the system I was moving into, so their expectation was that I would not fill the exact same role as the previous employees.
This isn't something that AI will be able to successfully figure out for quite some time yet. Over time it should get better and get there, but I expect that to take a long time. Intuition and creative problem solving are going to be some of the last things that AI is going to be able to tackle.
Want to know how I can tell you haven't had many repeat sexual partners....?
You might want to look up what a conspiracy is legally. Because that's textbook what's been done here by Trump and team. Funny thing about conspiracy....you don't have to be successful to get charged. You just have to organize to do something illegal, and/or try to cover up that plot.
You know.....like meet with representatives of a hostile foreign government to try to sway an election, and then lie and say it was a meeting about adoptions. That's pretty much textbook conspiracy, and very much a chargeable federal offense.
That Superfish program really helps the install. Makes it go super smoothly.
Yep. Check out your local credit union.
When I was in college, I had an account with one. Student fees were auto-debited from my account, and the college business office accidentally chose my savings account rather than checking account. Then proceeded to hammer it every hour for the money for two days before the credit union called me and was like, "Um, you need to tell them to stop." Note that the college didn't bother to let me know.
I straightened it out with the college, went to the credit union, and each one had gotten me a $25 overdraft. I explained to the teller, (yes, teller behind the counter, nobody higher up than that) and they said, "Yeah, that sucks. I'll just reverse all of them." 5 minutes later everything was fine.
When you have to choose between an organization which needs to make as much money off of you as possible and one which doesn't, I'm not sure why anyone would choose the one that by definition needs to fuck you as hard as possible without making you leave. My local credit union even prints credit/debit cards on-demand, which is super helpful when one gets lost or compromised.
So I'll raise your nazis a "think of the children".
Specifically, think of your underage daughter who was convinced to take some nudes. Nudes that someone has decided to spread all over. Now, what do you as a parent do? What do you do about the deep fakes which involve you personally?
If this is the current censored web, you have some recompense, and you can be sure that the FBI will be looking for the people who are making, hosting and sharing those images. In the decentralized anon web, the solutions are limited.
I'm not arguing for censorship, but there does need to be a thought for how to handle outright abuse and criminal activity. If I don't want to see child porn, there needs to be a mechanism for black/gray/white listing content, as well as people. If someone wants to spam me and everyone I know with deepfakes of me doing disgusting shit, there needs to be some reputation mechanism to dampen that sort of abuse.
As an example, I browse /. at +2. Friends get a +2 so they tend to be visible, foes a -2 so they don't show up unless they are saying something a lot of people think is useful, and anon gets a -1, because they're generally shitty and spammy. All those comments are still there, but there's at least some filtering. Friends of friends and friends of foes can inherit some of that moderation, to help smooth things out.
To your nazi example, I'd point to the historic /. trolls. GNAA, Moo Cow, APK, etc. They have existed and in some cases still exist, and largely are invisible to most. If you want to wallow in the filth, it's there, but there's a mechanism to keep people's ankles clean.
If we decentralize the web, there's going to have to be a mechanism at least as good as /.'s, or nobody is going to want to use that platform except said trolls. At that point, might as well just go to 4chan and be done with it.
But the flip side is that the reason the system exists in the first place is us. Specifically us buying stuff. With the money we made being paid to be part of the system.
Remove us from the system and the system can't financially exist unless we get paid some other way.
Having taught and having a few college degrees in different subjects under my belt, including an education degree, I concur entirely.
There is no "fun" way to learn calculus. Sure, you can use it to solve interesting problems, but the raw mechanics of calc and differential equations aren't things you can master by doing anything other than rote work. Sure, you can potentially teach the underlying concepts in an interesting and fun way, but there's a wide gulf between understanding what something does or how it works and actually being able to do it yourself. To bridge that gulf you often need dedication and perseverance and the willingness to endure a whole lot of suck in the process.
That said, all too often teachers think that everything needs to be constructed like that, or that nothing does. I've seen more of the former, but I have seen some of the latter. I once had a professor who claimed that you could learn math without numbers. That everything in math could be learned conceptually. After some pushing back on my part, including asking how they would explain ratios or slopes without numbers, they finally admitted that the last math they took was Algebra 2 thirty years prior, and that they had failed it.
At the other end, we have all the professors who just stand in front of a class and drone on and on, assuming that the students are "empty vessels" waiting to be filled. That everything will make sense to them if they just pay attention, memorize everything, and do hundreds of problems for homework.
We need a good balance in teaching, and teachers, students, and especially parents need to understand that. Right tool for the right job and all.
I'm doing all I can to automate myself out of a job. On the positive side, I'm not letting management know that.
Which is super telling when one party tries to defund education while the other tries to pump money into it.
I know. A decade or more ago I was trolling with fake news pretty successfully. I was just doing it for laughs, however. I think the real issue is that we've learned to monetize outrage very effectively, which means there's a real market for it.
Now, you can even point to real, factual news like the fact that collusion isn't a crime and therefore Trump is indeed suffering from a witch-hunt and people won't believe it.
The fake news has gotten so deep that it's countering fake news with fake news about factual information. Fucking fake news all the way down.
That worked in every other mass immigration to the US so far. Why don't you think it would work in modern times?
Or are you still worried about the Irish?
When you decided that you wanted to live in a civil society and not a police state beholden to a military industrial complex sucking up all your tax dollars.
Or is that what you're looking for?
So your "solution" is to take everyone who might be against us, put them all in the same place, and make them miserable? Great idea!
Do you want jihadists? Because that's how you get jihadists.
Here's a better idea: Socialize these folks. Show them that what they think they hate isn't what they think it is. Listen to them. Figure out why they are angry. Work to assuage their fears, and make sure that they have what they need to live happy, comfortable lives.
And sure, this won't work for 100% of people. Adios is indeed the solution to them. But it will work for a damn good number of people. What you don't seem to realize is that immigrants aren't going to another country because they're happy and having a great time in their country. They're leaving because they are threatened, impoverished, or otherwise unable to have a fulfilling life in their home country.
If you shit all over those people, you're just making enemies. If you can make them feel welcome, you've not only gotten a friend, but you've now got ambassadors who can reduce the amount of hatred in their home country for yours. That's how you reduce all of the issues you identify, instead of increasing them they way your suggestions would actually function.
I concur.
I think what businesses will offer in exchange for services will need to change radically, however. You won't be able to abuse your employees if they don't need to work to survive.
As an example, one of my first jobs was in some spare space in a basement. It wasn't really well climate controlled, ventilated, or lighted. But I needed the money. Had UBI been around, I wouldn't have done that job, and most other people wouldn't have either. Now, move that upstairs to a clean, nicely-lit space, and focus on skills acquisition to help me find a better job later, and I'm likely in. It would have been pretty much the same work, but the focus would be on making me happy, rather than getting the job done and fuck how the employee feels about doing it.
I see a lot of jobs running into the same issue. You need to make the employee want to be there if they don't need to be there. You're going to need to put good ventilation in your kitchen and staff it fully. You're going to need to revise your policy of "4:30 show, 5am go". Siestas are going to become a thing in the US because people aren't going to find working in 110F heat all that appealing. Either that, or the pay is going to have to go up a lot for many jobs.
On the flip side, there's going to be some real competition for "fun" jobs. Pretty much anything that someone might enjoy they can now do without requiring that it provide them a living wage. Dog walking, child care, creating art, music, literature, cooking for small amounts of people, gardening, interior design, mechanical work, hell, maybe even programming.
The cost of employees is going to shift a lot, and I bet in a number of very unexpected directions.
I agree completely with you and the GP.
Pointless makework doesn't help society. Pointless makework that doesn't get done or done well, and you can't fire people from (not) doing is just asinine. And then you're making makework for people to monitor and administrate this pointless program.
Just give people the money. If they waste it, they waste it. If even small percent use it to springboard their life into something better, that's a higher net value than if they had just done makework.
Yep. It comes down to a cost-benefit analysis by the business. Does the power go out often enough to make it worth having a backup system, training staff, and practicing it a few times a year? If so, is doing business during the outage worth the cost of the backup system?
I've been in stores which chose different paths, like you and the GP here. I understand why they chose they way they did.
This is exactly the idea behind Microsoft's forced updates: most people are never applying updates, which causes problems...
Which I noted in another thread is mostly because of how fucking awful their updates are. They are maddeningly slow resource hogs with massive and random interruptions. They are inconsistent and provide no information about what they're doing, how long it will take, and sometimes crank so hard behind the scenes that other programs stop responding.
Why the fuck can't they do a reasonable update? Who the hell thought "Updating, don't lose power or force-shutdown or it will bork your OS" was a good idea? Why do we get extra-long boots sometimes for something? Why do we reboot, and then need to install more shit, and reboot again? Why do we sometimes boot part-way and do some shit, finish booting most of the way, then reboot, then do some more shit, and finally get to a login screen 10 minutes later?
This level of shittiness is exactly why people resist updates. If you make something obnoxious and painful, of course people will not do that thing. Unfortunately Microsoft has done this for so long that everyone is conditioned to avoid updates like the plague. Even if they made it smooth, quiet, and slick, most people won't choose to do it because of their past (and current) history of being abusive twats.
Even waiting until log-off isn't a solution some of the time. As I posted above, sometimes I need to shutdown, grab the laptop and go. When my only options are Cancel, Update and Restart, and Update and Shutdown, Microsoft has decided that their time is more important than mine. I just force shutdown at that point.
The biggest issue is that Windows updates are inexplicably resource-intensive and disruptive. Updates on my Linux boxes don't noticeably impact performance, and don't generally disrupt work and require multiple reboots and inexplicably long boots/shutdowns.
I think Windows updates have been so abusive and disruptive for so long that they are responsible for conditioning people to ignore them. Had they been quiet, sensible updates, they wouldn't be doing all of this shit to try to get people to stay updated.