If there are "targeted ads", that means that some advertiser has built a profile on me, and thinks they know me. I did not agree to that. I did not consent to be part of their database. I do not have a business relationship with them.
And in practice, they get it wrong. All of the time. Before I clamped down my personal phone, I visited the site of a vendor that we use in my work to look something up for someone who needed it desperately right then. Later I started getting targeted ads for that vendor, a) on my personal phone, and b) for products my work already purchased, and c) I have no say in the purchasing.
I fail to see how that is in any way better than random, but even random is not better than none at all.
That was my first thought. I definitely don't click on 99% or more of the links I find on the web. And a solid percent of them are obviously code red, do not click.
All it would take is one stumble into one of the malware sites where every click opens three more tabs and two windows, and that program would be mired in dodgy shit until the next time you logged in and shat your pants at what was on the screen. And downloaded. And installed as a toolbar.
Probably when it becomes a standard. I mean, any legitimate tech site would wait until that point, and then roll the change into their development cycle for the next release.
I don't know if I trust your extrapolation. We only have data on something like 13 out of every 14 people who have ever lived. That's a long way from 100%.
While you didn't include any decimals, you're betting that there's less than a one in 7.5 billion chance that someone's genetically immortal. Seems like a risky gamble to me. Have you ever counted 7.5 billion of anything? It turns out that it's rather a lot.
I watched the NHL all-star game this year, and it was 3 on 3 with no hits. I have to say, it was damn entertaining. The passes and shots you can take when you're not getting slammed around are works of art.
Full-speed, behind the back pass, hidden by the fake slapshot that came after it. Charging the net, lifting the stick, curling left to fake a shot in the top corner, all while the puck just slides through the 5-hole.
There were some truly stunning plays in that game. Sure, it helps that they are all-stars, but the ability to make shots was a major component. It's not the same game, but it was damn fun to watch. The question is if sports can drop some of the physical violence and improve other aspects enough to keep or improve the entertainment. I'm not sure that soccer could ban headers or the NFL could limit hits and still keep the same interest level. I know I don't go out of my way to watch flag football.
God, PulseAudio makes me shudder every time I see it. When it first came out, it absolutely barfed on my audio setup. For about 2 years every time I updated my distro it would infect my system, and I'd have to spend a half day purging it and getting Alsa set back up.
Here's the very short reason your anger is entirely misplaced: What you think is being taught is not what's being taught. When a kid gets the "correct" answer, but uses the wrong method, you view this as some major travesty, because you think that what's being assessed is the ability to find the answer.
That's not what's being assessed.
What's being assessed is the understanding of the method.
I don't understand why this is such a difficult concept for so many people. Maybe it's because they only ever learned one way to do things, and think it's the best way? I just don't get it.
Schools should not be in the business of making kids dumber.
In general, they are not. However, when blowhards like yourself don't understand what they're doing, it looks that way. What you don't get is that that's much more of a reflection on your intelligence than what's happening in schools.
We're almost twins! I know it was late 2001 or early 2002 due to the job I had where I was introduced to/. by a coworker. I know I was reading and commenting on stuff daily in late 2001, but I think I didn't make my account until sometime in 2002.
At work three of us just got the "you're the last ones" email from IT. We were asked to schedule a time for them to set up our new laptops running Windows 10. They were unamused when I technically met that request by choosing the last week in June.
I'm just not interested in this change over. Too much crap to reinstall, too much to reconfigure, and I have actual, useful shit to do. I just still can't get over how disruptive both the regularly scheduled updates as well as the distribution updates are on Windows. Just let me do my job, like linux does.
It's shitty for men, no doubt. But the goal is to get rid of witches, and a very public witch-hunt is one way to do that.
While some guys who just have shit humor, are socially inept, or have bad manners are going to get fucked over with all of this, a whole lot of the others who have been abusive are going to get spooked. And that's sort-of the point. A second point is that as the GP pointed out, not being able to be taken seriously about abuses at work still happens today. If there are some sacrificial lambs that ultimately allow workplace abuse to be taken seriously, that sucks, but it's better in the long run.
If you are a white male with any sort of power, this sucks because it's a very serious re-configuring of the power structure in the US. It's doubly painful if you've been abusing it.
But for everyone else? Going to make their lives better.
Thrashing and wailing about how equality makes you feel sad really makes you seem like a douchebag. Remember when you were 3 and had to learn how to share? Same thing here, except the stakes are far, far higher.
Sadly I don't, but I am starting to feel a little sick already. I'll try to tough it out this weekend, but I'm pretty sure I'll need to stay home Tuesday. With a pizza, some beers, and a great deal of childish excitement.
Sorry for your brain injury. I hope losing the ACA doesn't mean you can't still get treatment.
Maybe this is news to you, but a good 50% or more of education is controlled at the local level, through the local school board. That's made up of people voted in by the members in the community. Unless you're telling us that everyone in every state is voting in liberals for their local school board, your shrieking about the left is pretty stupid.
Another 25% or so of education is controlled by the state education agency, generally headed by a board and/or a state superintendent who's appointed by the governor of the state. Last I looked, all of the state governors weren't liberals, so it stands to reason that most of the state education agencies are not liberal.
Probably the last 25% is controlled by federal law, which, and this may surprise you, tends to be written by both republicans and democrats. The last major bill was ESSA, which was sponsored by Lamar Alexander and passed on a bipartisan vote.
Where do you get the idea that education is somehow owned by the left? Because the left is smart and the right is dumb?
So, why are you still in this position? You've had a decade to change your skills, change jobs, careers, and location. If you're not happy, fix your life!
In the same time period I moved a thousand miles away, went through 3 different jobs doing different things, and doubled my income in the process. My current job isn't similar to the one I had back then, but tangentially relies on some of those skills. I'm in an area with a reasonable cost of living and unemployment in my general field that often hovers under 3%. I.E., so desperate we'll pay extra to get you.
What I didn't do was just keep moping through life. Is that really the example you want to set for your kid?
If you're not saving for retirement now, you're not saving for retirement ever. You're planning to work into your 70s, while desperately hoping social security will still exist. Retirement saving only really works when you can compound interest over a couple of decades.
So yeah, I'm not going much of anywhere, and I probably never will.
Not with that attitude, buddy.
Change it up, if only so your kid doesn't have to house and feed your sorry ass when you're old. She'll appreciate it, I'm sure.
The summary and a bit of math point to the answer. On any given day, there's a 1 in 10,000 chance of them dying. 10,000/365 = 27 years and change, which pairs nicely with the "can live up to 30 years" statement.
Add in the "slight decrease in mortality rates as they get older", and that points to an early loss of those genetically unfit, and then random chances of random things killing them until they just can't beat the odds anymore.
Nice. If I do a bunch of shit that I shouldn't have to do and give away my personal information I can get worse service than I can get from someone else. How much does UPS pay you, shill?
If the US security apparatus wanted to implement an Orwellian system to monitor the movements of every US citizen via their cellphone it will not make a damn bit of difference whether the 5G network is publicly or privately owned.
I think Prism and the upcoming nation-wide license plate scanning project demonstrate that quite well. If they're not doing it via the cell network already, they don't have a need for it, or they don't have the capacity for it. Ability? Definitely have that.
Really? USPS delivers to my door 6 days a week, and drops off for Amazon on Sunday. UPS swings by at 10am on a Tuesday, and slaps a note on my door that if I want my package, I have to drive to a shady strip mall 3 miles away in another day or two and pick it up from an "unaffiliated" UPS Store.
And when I tell the employees at that store that it's fucking bullshit that I pay to have packages delivered to my door, and they don't even let me sign them to be left when I'm not there, they tell me that they're not affiliated with UPS. At a store branded "The UPS Store". And that I should call a 1800 number, wait on hold for 20 minutes, and then complain. And, of course, this "unaffiliated" store is open like 9 to 6, and Saturday morning.
All while a mile from my house USPS has a 24hr service center where I can bring my packages in, weigh them, affix the postage, and drop them off, and buy stamps and even snag some of the flat-rate boxes.
I'm in the upper Midwest in a small city. The difference between USPS and UPS is very stark around here. UPS sucks balls, and USPS is pretty fantastic, even when there's 2' of snow and a -20 wind chill.
I both agree and disagree. If there is one thing that the Teamsters are infamous for, it's an absolute unwillingness to budge on anything which might cost them a job, or a presence in a company. Unfortunately for UPS, there likely isn't another job that they need all these drivers for once automation really takes off.
That puts UPS in the situation where if they provide that "lifeboat" of training, it would be training these drivers for another job in another company. I can't see how you can request a company do that. The alternate is that the Teamsters force UPS to engage in something other than their core business to employ these people, and I can't see that as being reasonable either.
I understand why the Teamsters are doing this, however: It's what their members are paying them to do. I don't think that makes it right, and I also assume that they understand the futility in making this demand. Ideally they'd take the money generated from the folks at UPS and invest back into them for that "lifeboat" you describe. However, if there is one thing that large organizations are it's rather inflexible and slow to change.
Ultimately, I think that we need some large-scale societal change to help navigate this upcoming rapid change in employment opportunities. We can't just rely on companies to do the right thing, because of situations like this. All it takes is one existing or one new company to embrace automation, and a lot of these jobs will be lost anyway, just due to the market forces. Better social safety nets are one thing, but more opportunities to re-skill cheaply or for free in the short term, and likely some sort of UBI in the long term will be needed.
I don't see you lining up for the big jump.
If you knew me you would have seen a bunch of them. I'm ballpark 4-6 careers in at this point, depending on how fine you want to slice semi-related fields. 3 times now I've completely changed fields, and I have 3 degrees in 3 different fields to show for it.
The thing is, I understand that just because I can do that, it doesn't mean that everyone can. And I also understand that the Teamster's position is absolutely unreasonable, as they're not even demanding help for their members to make that jump. They're demanding that the ship not sink, while threatening to sink it if they don't get their way.
But forgoing a contract with the teamsters right now will also likely be the end of UPS. What the teamsters are doing is walking to the dry end of the titanic. They could save it by jumping off, but they're fucked either way. And UPS is powerless to convince them to jump off.
This is just them selfishly taking someone down with them, in order to survive for a bit longer than they otherwise would.
I expect that with automated transport, we'll start seeing huge fleets of delivery vehicles roaming the streets - even to the scale of having multiple delivery vehicles on the same street at the same time - and the workforce that used to drive will then move towards maintaining and managing the vast fleet.
I do not expect this.
I expect that with automated transport, we'll start seeing huge fleets of delivery vehicles roaming the streets - even to the scale of having multiple delivery vehicles on the same street at the same time - with a similarly automated fleet for maintaining and managing the delivery fleet.
I don't see a reason that the maintenance of the drone fleet would be anything but automated. Make the drones modular, and if the robot can't swap out a bad module for a good one, scavenge what you can, and trash the rest. Maybe at that point it would make more financial sense for a human to try a repair, or maybe they'll just supervise the robots breaking down and recycling the broken bits. Regardless, I don't see maintenance replacing any but a small fraction of the jobs lost.
Well, then we need to mandate artisan, hand-carved drones, with personalized software, written during the month of the customer's birth sign. Jobs for everybody!
For awhile I tried voting on the firehose, but I found myself getting both far dumber and far more angry.
Dumber because of all of the fucking stupid shit submitted, and angry because the "editors" of the site posted that shit even if it got well downvoted to make sure there was shit to post angrily about to drive ad revenue.
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In what world? Not mine.
If there are "targeted ads", that means that some advertiser has built a profile on me, and thinks they know me. I did not agree to that. I did not consent to be part of their database. I do not have a business relationship with them.
And in practice, they get it wrong. All of the time. Before I clamped down my personal phone, I visited the site of a vendor that we use in my work to look something up for someone who needed it desperately right then. Later I started getting targeted ads for that vendor, a) on my personal phone, and b) for products my work already purchased, and c) I have no say in the purchasing.
I fail to see how that is in any way better than random, but even random is not better than none at all.
That was my first thought. I definitely don't click on 99% or more of the links I find on the web. And a solid percent of them are obviously code red, do not click.
All it would take is one stumble into one of the malware sites where every click opens three more tabs and two windows, and that program would be mired in dodgy shit until the next time you logged in and shat your pants at what was on the screen. And downloaded. And installed as a toolbar.
Probably when it becomes a standard. I mean, any legitimate tech site would wait until that point, and then roll the change into their development cycle for the next release.
I don't know if I trust your extrapolation. We only have data on something like 13 out of every 14 people who have ever lived. That's a long way from 100%.
While you didn't include any decimals, you're betting that there's less than a one in 7.5 billion chance that someone's genetically immortal. Seems like a risky gamble to me. Have you ever counted 7.5 billion of anything? It turns out that it's rather a lot.
I watched the NHL all-star game this year, and it was 3 on 3 with no hits. I have to say, it was damn entertaining. The passes and shots you can take when you're not getting slammed around are works of art.
Full-speed, behind the back pass, hidden by the fake slapshot that came after it. Charging the net, lifting the stick, curling left to fake a shot in the top corner, all while the puck just slides through the 5-hole.
There were some truly stunning plays in that game. Sure, it helps that they are all-stars, but the ability to make shots was a major component. It's not the same game, but it was damn fun to watch. The question is if sports can drop some of the physical violence and improve other aspects enough to keep or improve the entertainment. I'm not sure that soccer could ban headers or the NFL could limit hits and still keep the same interest level. I know I don't go out of my way to watch flag football.
God, PulseAudio makes me shudder every time I see it. When it first came out, it absolutely barfed on my audio setup. For about 2 years every time I updated my distro it would infect my system, and I'd have to spend a half day purging it and getting Alsa set back up.
Better now, but those mental scars still remain.
Here's the very short reason your anger is entirely misplaced: What you think is being taught is not what's being taught. When a kid gets the "correct" answer, but uses the wrong method, you view this as some major travesty, because you think that what's being assessed is the ability to find the answer.
That's not what's being assessed.
What's being assessed is the understanding of the method.
I don't understand why this is such a difficult concept for so many people. Maybe it's because they only ever learned one way to do things, and think it's the best way? I just don't get it.
Schools should not be in the business of making kids dumber.
In general, they are not. However, when blowhards like yourself don't understand what they're doing, it looks that way. What you don't get is that that's much more of a reflection on your intelligence than what's happening in schools.
We're almost twins! I know it was late 2001 or early 2002 due to the job I had where I was introduced to /. by a coworker. I know I was reading and commenting on stuff daily in late 2001, but I think I didn't make my account until sometime in 2002.
At work three of us just got the "you're the last ones" email from IT. We were asked to schedule a time for them to set up our new laptops running Windows 10. They were unamused when I technically met that request by choosing the last week in June.
I'm just not interested in this change over. Too much crap to reinstall, too much to reconfigure, and I have actual, useful shit to do. I just still can't get over how disruptive both the regularly scheduled updates as well as the distribution updates are on Windows. Just let me do my job, like linux does.
I'd argue that this is fixing it.
It's shitty for men, no doubt. But the goal is to get rid of witches, and a very public witch-hunt is one way to do that.
While some guys who just have shit humor, are socially inept, or have bad manners are going to get fucked over with all of this, a whole lot of the others who have been abusive are going to get spooked. And that's sort-of the point. A second point is that as the GP pointed out, not being able to be taken seriously about abuses at work still happens today. If there are some sacrificial lambs that ultimately allow workplace abuse to be taken seriously, that sucks, but it's better in the long run.
If you are a white male with any sort of power, this sucks because it's a very serious re-configuring of the power structure in the US. It's doubly painful if you've been abusing it.
But for everyone else? Going to make their lives better.
Thrashing and wailing about how equality makes you feel sad really makes you seem like a douchebag. Remember when you were 3 and had to learn how to share? Same thing here, except the stakes are far, far higher.
Sadly I don't, but I am starting to feel a little sick already. I'll try to tough it out this weekend, but I'm pretty sure I'll need to stay home Tuesday. With a pizza, some beers, and a great deal of childish excitement.
Sorry for your brain injury. I hope losing the ACA doesn't mean you can't still get treatment.
Maybe this is news to you, but a good 50% or more of education is controlled at the local level, through the local school board. That's made up of people voted in by the members in the community. Unless you're telling us that everyone in every state is voting in liberals for their local school board, your shrieking about the left is pretty stupid.
Another 25% or so of education is controlled by the state education agency, generally headed by a board and/or a state superintendent who's appointed by the governor of the state. Last I looked, all of the state governors weren't liberals, so it stands to reason that most of the state education agencies are not liberal.
Probably the last 25% is controlled by federal law, which, and this may surprise you, tends to be written by both republicans and democrats. The last major bill was ESSA, which was sponsored by Lamar Alexander and passed on a bipartisan vote.
Where do you get the idea that education is somehow owned by the left? Because the left is smart and the right is dumb?
What do you mean? That's like half the world! 50% chance you don't even nee to go anywhere.
So, why are you still in this position? You've had a decade to change your skills, change jobs, careers, and location. If you're not happy, fix your life!
In the same time period I moved a thousand miles away, went through 3 different jobs doing different things, and doubled my income in the process. My current job isn't similar to the one I had back then, but tangentially relies on some of those skills. I'm in an area with a reasonable cost of living and unemployment in my general field that often hovers under 3%. I.E., so desperate we'll pay extra to get you.
What I didn't do was just keep moping through life. Is that really the example you want to set for your kid?
If you're not saving for retirement now, you're not saving for retirement ever. You're planning to work into your 70s, while desperately hoping social security will still exist. Retirement saving only really works when you can compound interest over a couple of decades.
So yeah, I'm not going much of anywhere, and I probably never will.
Not with that attitude, buddy.
Change it up, if only so your kid doesn't have to house and feed your sorry ass when you're old. She'll appreciate it, I'm sure.
If your lights use more energy than driving around in a car, just WTF do you light your house with? 1000W halogens? Do you use them for heating too?
Whoever modded you informative apparently doesn't math at all.
Gas has about 33 kWh/gallon.
Modern LED lights will draw around 0.01 kWh, and even hungry plasma screens are in the ballpark of 0.1 kWh.
Moving our fat asses around is ridiculously energy intensive.
The summary and a bit of math point to the answer. On any given day, there's a 1 in 10,000 chance of them dying. 10,000/365 = 27 years and change, which pairs nicely with the "can live up to 30 years" statement.
Add in the "slight decrease in mortality rates as they get older", and that points to an early loss of those genetically unfit, and then random chances of random things killing them until they just can't beat the odds anymore.
So, in other words, a bathtub curve.
Nice. If I do a bunch of shit that I shouldn't have to do and give away my personal information I can get worse service than I can get from someone else. How much does UPS pay you, shill?
If the US security apparatus wanted to implement an Orwellian system to monitor the movements of every US citizen via their cellphone it will not make a damn bit of difference whether the 5G network is publicly or privately owned.
I think Prism and the upcoming nation-wide license plate scanning project demonstrate that quite well. If they're not doing it via the cell network already, they don't have a need for it, or they don't have the capacity for it. Ability? Definitely have that.
Really? USPS delivers to my door 6 days a week, and drops off for Amazon on Sunday. UPS swings by at 10am on a Tuesday, and slaps a note on my door that if I want my package, I have to drive to a shady strip mall 3 miles away in another day or two and pick it up from an "unaffiliated" UPS Store.
And when I tell the employees at that store that it's fucking bullshit that I pay to have packages delivered to my door, and they don't even let me sign them to be left when I'm not there, they tell me that they're not affiliated with UPS. At a store branded "The UPS Store". And that I should call a 1800 number, wait on hold for 20 minutes, and then complain. And, of course, this "unaffiliated" store is open like 9 to 6, and Saturday morning.
All while a mile from my house USPS has a 24hr service center where I can bring my packages in, weigh them, affix the postage, and drop them off, and buy stamps and even snag some of the flat-rate boxes.
I'm in the upper Midwest in a small city. The difference between USPS and UPS is very stark around here. UPS sucks balls, and USPS is pretty fantastic, even when there's 2' of snow and a -20 wind chill.
I both agree and disagree. If there is one thing that the Teamsters are infamous for, it's an absolute unwillingness to budge on anything which might cost them a job, or a presence in a company. Unfortunately for UPS, there likely isn't another job that they need all these drivers for once automation really takes off.
That puts UPS in the situation where if they provide that "lifeboat" of training, it would be training these drivers for another job in another company. I can't see how you can request a company do that. The alternate is that the Teamsters force UPS to engage in something other than their core business to employ these people, and I can't see that as being reasonable either.
I understand why the Teamsters are doing this, however: It's what their members are paying them to do. I don't think that makes it right, and I also assume that they understand the futility in making this demand. Ideally they'd take the money generated from the folks at UPS and invest back into them for that "lifeboat" you describe. However, if there is one thing that large organizations are it's rather inflexible and slow to change.
Ultimately, I think that we need some large-scale societal change to help navigate this upcoming rapid change in employment opportunities. We can't just rely on companies to do the right thing, because of situations like this. All it takes is one existing or one new company to embrace automation, and a lot of these jobs will be lost anyway, just due to the market forces. Better social safety nets are one thing, but more opportunities to re-skill cheaply or for free in the short term, and likely some sort of UBI in the long term will be needed.
I don't see you lining up for the big jump.
If you knew me you would have seen a bunch of them. I'm ballpark 4-6 careers in at this point, depending on how fine you want to slice semi-related fields. 3 times now I've completely changed fields, and I have 3 degrees in 3 different fields to show for it.
The thing is, I understand that just because I can do that, it doesn't mean that everyone can. And I also understand that the Teamster's position is absolutely unreasonable, as they're not even demanding help for their members to make that jump. They're demanding that the ship not sink, while threatening to sink it if they don't get their way.
But forgoing a contract with the teamsters right now will also likely be the end of UPS. What the teamsters are doing is walking to the dry end of the titanic. They could save it by jumping off, but they're fucked either way. And UPS is powerless to convince them to jump off.
This is just them selfishly taking someone down with them, in order to survive for a bit longer than they otherwise would.
I expect that with automated transport, we'll start seeing huge fleets of delivery vehicles roaming the streets - even to the scale of having multiple delivery vehicles on the same street at the same time - and the workforce that used to drive will then move towards maintaining and managing the vast fleet.
I do not expect this.
I expect that with automated transport, we'll start seeing huge fleets of delivery vehicles roaming the streets - even to the scale of having multiple delivery vehicles on the same street at the same time - with a similarly automated fleet for maintaining and managing the delivery fleet.
I don't see a reason that the maintenance of the drone fleet would be anything but automated. Make the drones modular, and if the robot can't swap out a bad module for a good one, scavenge what you can, and trash the rest. Maybe at that point it would make more financial sense for a human to try a repair, or maybe they'll just supervise the robots breaking down and recycling the broken bits. Regardless, I don't see maintenance replacing any but a small fraction of the jobs lost.
Well, then we need to mandate artisan, hand-carved drones, with personalized software, written during the month of the customer's birth sign. Jobs for everybody!
Well, Santa would still have a job. Along with a couple guys in around central park, and the Amish.
For awhile I tried voting on the firehose, but I found myself getting both far dumber and far more angry.
Dumber because of all of the fucking stupid shit submitted, and angry because the "editors" of the site posted that shit even if it got well downvoted to make sure there was shit to post angrily about to drive ad revenue.