Thinking like that gets you a dictator like Hussein who will kill hundreds of thousands that do not go along with his agenda. Of course we all see that the world does not support ousting of someone like that so you'd be stuck with it.
Probably but using the 95th percentile like some ISPs do to not charge for temporary spikes in bandwidth would knock out the 5% or less fake IP sources. Just don't count the top 5% IP sources. If they are legit they wouldn't be clicking on a banner that many times anyway. The 5% could be tweaked so nobody wig over it being too high;)
And meta moderating to get rid of them doesn't seem to do any good. I keep having hope though and have been meta moderating for over 2 years. Eventually it might do some good or get me mod points but I don't have much hope in either.
You don't expect moderators to actually check things like this do you?;)
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No I think you missed my point. $500,000 is just from the extra hits/week without advertising at all. An extra half a million that just comes to you without you asking. Just imagine what it would be if it were advertised.
The Band of Brothers thing is much like Saving Private Ryan. They went through great lengths (and even interviewed the actual people at the beginning of each episode) to make it as true to life as possible. I liked it alot.
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I thought we were talking about them releasing via P2P in their own form then charging for upcoming episodes. If so, why is everyone assuming they WOULDN'T put advertising in? It is really hard to find a legit DVD these days without non-skippable commercials before the movie. If someone edits content and redistributes then they could complain about this, press charges, whatever. If it is in its original form with advertising they still get the advertising income.
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Wow, a whole 350 people emailing praise? Holy smokes! And assuming all those people would pay, only $9,996,500 to go! And 10,000 extra hits a week? How do you quantify all this stuff? More realistically, you've got maybe 10,000 people willing to pay $10/show, lowering your gross by a couple orders of magnitude.
Without advertising and only found by accidentally running across it on a search. Not many people email with comments after downloading something off of P2P either (it would be admission of guilt). The numbers are much better than you think. 10,000 per week @ $10 is over$500,000 annually just from the additional hits per week he is getting now without advertising. On a side note I have spent $70-100 on box sets like Band of Brothers, Taken, etc even after previously having a downloaded copy.
In 2001 Intel dumped their surplus in Japan and gained some market share that way. Another thing driving the figures is the number of chips in the X-Box. Personally I am surprised by these numbers since I do prefer Intel but find the price range and functionality of AMD to be more appealing to my budget.
Bah I'll run 2K Pro for games until they pry it from my cold dead hands;) Either that or when WINE starts working with all of my stuff. Then my journey to the dark side..er..linux will be complete.
But the Windows cost is a one time cost. Cedega is an annual cost I believe. It would be cheaper at first but would eventually surpass. I've tried cedega but some of the games that loaded had issues such as invisible buttons or lag. I love the idea though. It makes it possible to play a few games on my widescreen TV running Fedora and MythTV.
Actually it has nothing to do with that. Fasttrack trains are put up for vote in cities (Austin, TX recently did this). The cons people consider when voting are:
A) Where will it stop and who will it benefit
B) Who's land is going to be absorbed at "market price" when they draw the line
C) How many millions of dollars is this going to cost us only to be charged to get on it
D) Is it going to be in my way by adding yet another obstacle on my regular path to stop for?
I'm sure there are others but those were some of the main points when Austin put this up for vote. The biggest being "am I going to lose my home?". This brings up an interesting question though. Nobody is mentioning how a place as crowded as Japan manages to clear long straight railways. I'm assuming these already existed and were just upgraded? Even the international airport there was constructed by filling in part of the ocean.
I have never programmed Symbian but have been amazed at how small the installers are for some apps. Mario Kart was 45K I think. Putty.exe for my Symbian is awesome;)
So this is actually morally good then. Either way there are 16000 employees feeding their families, and now there are 16000 stockholders with larger retirement checks.
The way you state it makes it seem good...however...these are the well-off up to rich that we are talking about. Feeding their families isn't an issue in contrast to the thousands laid off who have zero income now to feed their families. I really don't get a "feel-good" attitude about someone bringing in an extra 10 grand to pay for their Porsche insurance at the sacrifice of thousands of blue/white collar workers who are left with nothing.
How did Google come to rule the Internet? Did they start out as a huge corporation? How did Yahoo do the same before Google? How did eBay become huge?
None of these have assembly lines and such to outsource. A skeleton crew of programmers can maintain a.com.
Any tiny company can compete against any large company by introducing a better product, service, or price point. It has happened millions of times in history.
Yes but this is a new time in history where the jobs are sent overseas and the consumer/original worker who helped get it there is left with no job.
The fact that you think having a job is linked to "luck" really explains a lot about your mentality towards capitalism.
It ahs nothing to do with capitalism. It has everything to do with shareholder and CEO greed. To make the bottom line look better they just ripped away the job, retirements, insurance, pension, and many other forms of retirement from the laboror who helped get them there.
The rest of your post I will ignore as it is based on complete ignorance of how capitalism and the economy works.
Thanks for playing (see above comments). The economy is driven by the consumers who spend their $$ on goods using the $$ they earned from their job. How can you claim you know how the economy works when you don't take into account the source of the income for capitalistic companies? That is the source of everything in capitalism. Without a consumer there is no company. Without a job there is no consumer.
Ahh I wasn't aware it was that way in Canada. Even when I was in grade school way back in the early 80s (born in 72) we had a student who was allowed to leave during prayer. We had a 'moment of silence' for prayer or whatever before football games and that was banned as well. These days it just seems to be kids coming home talking about what they learned about Muslims right after the note saying there would be no Christmas play even for volunteers only. Some small town here in TX had an elective class petition for Christianity signed by almost the whole town yet it was shot down by one person who was anti-Christian saying they had to offer other religion classes as well. The point being...if someone wanted other classes they had the same right to start a petition yet nobody did and it was banned anyway.
Thanks for keeping the reply to non-flame. I usually get slammed for comments like this.
Do the stats take into account disconnects or are they really counting current active subscribers? If about half of the population is subscribed to broadband and not everyone subscribes to it who lives in an area with it available, wouldn't that mean that approximately 75%+ of the country would be blanketed with it? If so that is truly amazing and I commend the telecoms in Canada for accomplishing this. Then again maybe the lines that go down in hard freezes means they have constant replacement of good copper;) Here in Texas the lines stay up until they rot in the sun. Even most phone lines located far away from any city have a constant hum on them from all of the cracked lines.
This is right along the lines of what I was going to post. I would be more interested in knowing % land mass covered rather than total connections. Sheer size of a country could put them on the top of this list even if they had 2% covered.
Everything EXCEPT Christianity is allowed to be taught in schools now. They even teach about the Muslims during ramadan(sp?) in some of the schools around here. You hear about it on the radio like everything is ok on that then hear about a huge lawsuit 2 ppl make against hundreds of others who want to have a Christmas play. Go figure. Even the bible itself says the Christians will be hunted down and there will be very few safe havens. Every tiny law passed to discriminate against Christian activity is one step closer to making it illegal. I know some people who are non-believers may see this as a good thing but it is the extreme opposite vs letting someone pray for the safety of their child when he/she is in a game. You would swear that the liberals ears will bleed if they have to hear a prayer yet they are all for alternate religions being taught in the schools. Sounds like media brainwashing against Christianity to me..
The WMD thing didn't play out but give me a desert the size of California, limitless budget, and 10 years and I could hide something you'd never find too. Liberal media focuses on the one item of WMDs when the actual speech made declaring Hussein and his sons had 48 hours to leave never mentioned it. It was all about tyranny, oppression, murder, and mass genocide. Too bad the liberals don't care about such things. They seem to be the only ones focused on oil and WMDs since the start of the war. Seriously. Think about it. More ppl died there than in the tsumani by the murderous hands of one man and only conservatives seem to care.
You are completely and totally biased if you truly believe what you just said. Nobody in the left knows a single fact that is incriminating against their own party. Both sides are equally bad. The left just whines much louder and gets everyones attention whether it be true or not (falsified papers against Bush in the service for example). The viewpoints going all the way up the thread from here shows that. They get modded +5 informative for outright speculation of liberal media viewpoints.
Have you bought anything from China recently? My Dad shopped all over the internet trying to find a non-Chinese drill press. He found one that said 'Made in the USA' by the Chicago . He received it with that exact label with a 'Made in China by Chicago - Hong Kong' label on the bottom.
Ok it was bad enough it was sleazy advertising to trick people into thinking they were buying American but when he opened it, it had plastic gears, a plastic cover that was so thin you could tear it with your fingers, and lasted an entire 15 minutes before the magic smoke got out. This is not an isolated incident. About the only thing I will buy from overseas is electronics from a previously established name that has already proved itself. They had a special on Christmas light last year on one of those hour long news specials. They grabbed 50 strings made in China and were reporting on how a string of house fires had been caused by the gauge of wiring being half of what is required to be manufactured in the U.S. During the report over 10 of them started smoking or outright burst into flames. I could go on all day about this but it is useless since I will be modded down by those who believe in outsourcing and wish to use mod points to squelch freedom of speech. Rather than mod me down I challenge someone to prove me wrong. Search for faulty chinese products on google and find proof otherwise.
Here I'll help get the skeptics started here
1 US dollar will get you 15855.00 Vietnamese dong;) If the American and European currency keeps falling you could invest in dong. It may sound funny but I'm serious. Driving the exchange rate down does have an impact. It takes much longer for the market to adjust than the consumer. Housing prices won't suddenly drop back under $100K just because the dollar falls 20%. However the exchange rate is instantaneous.
This may seem far fetched but using that same logic, imagine now what happens to the large companies with an investment in the overseas market they just helped bring the economy up in while the dollar dropped. The difference between the US dollar they spent while it was worth more stayed the same overseas and will be worth even more if they sell because of the increased economy there. Count that along with tax breaks and I can guarantee you that most of the arguments listed above about feeding families over there were not even remotely near the top of their list of reasons to outsource.
Oh, right, you simply overlooked the concept of "competition," which is what makes capitalism work.
Another oversight is that this "competition" is only valid for very large established companies that have the capital to start such a venture. Ma and Pop shops just trying to make a decent living have no chance vs the conglomerate using the equivalent of legal slave labor overseas. I miss the days when we bashed Iomega for using overseas sweat shops.
Citizens lucky enough to still have a job and enough $$ to buy a product will send the $$ to a conglomerate and in turn that $$ will be used in part to feed a family overseas and will not go into national taxes. This is like a hole in a bucket slowly leaking and it is only leaking from the consumers in the countries shipping out jobs. Once that bucket runs dry...well...that is how a 3rd world country is created. The only "leak" in the opposite direction is right back into the large corporations selling overseas. It never makes it back down to the end-user who started the circulation in the first place.
Another problem with the shareholder argument. Many people, including myself, used to invest in the stock market. I no longer have the means to do this. Will these companies become owned by majority overseas shareholders and themselves be ousted by the board when they decide he doesn't need to be sitting here in the U.S. with his corporate jet any more?
People in IBM obviously think differently and they are entitled to their opinions as well.
While I see where you are going with this, keep in mind that the "people in IBM" making this decision not only still have their jobs, they have higher profits now. The real cut in costs lies in common sense spending. The larger a company gets the more waste they have in spending. Joe Blow who was making $25,000/yr doesn't come close to the budget decision to spend $10/ream of print paper along with the banner page enforced on every print job. Long distance calls, international flights, training, new facilities, shipping EVERYTHING, etc all add up too.
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Thinking like that gets you a dictator like Hussein who will kill hundreds of thousands that do not go along with his agenda. Of course we all see that the world does not support ousting of someone like that so you'd be stuck with it.
Probably but using the 95th percentile like some ISPs do to not charge for temporary spikes in bandwidth would knock out the 5% or less fake IP sources. Just don't count the top 5% IP sources. If they are legit they wouldn't be clicking on a banner that many times anyway. The 5% could be tweaked so nobody wig over it being too high ;)
And meta moderating to get rid of them doesn't seem to do any good. I keep having hope though and have been meta moderating for over 2 years. Eventually it might do some good or get me mod points but I don't have much hope in either.
You don't expect moderators to actually check things like this do you? ;)
The Band of Brothers thing is much like Saving Private Ryan. They went through great lengths (and even interviewed the actual people at the beginning of each episode) to make it as true to life as possible. I liked it alot.
I thought we were talking about them releasing via P2P in their own form then charging for upcoming episodes. If so, why is everyone assuming they WOULDN'T put advertising in? It is really hard to find a legit DVD these days without non-skippable commercials before the movie. If someone edits content and redistributes then they could complain about this, press charges, whatever. If it is in its original form with advertising they still get the advertising income.
Without advertising and only found by accidentally running across it on a search. Not many people email with comments after downloading something off of P2P either (it would be admission of guilt). The numbers are much better than you think. 10,000 per week @ $10 is over$500,000 annually just from the additional hits per week he is getting now without advertising. On a side note I have spent $70-100 on box sets like Band of Brothers, Taken, etc even after previously having a downloaded copy.
Q4 2001 (same article) - Intel 80.6%, AMD 18.5%
2002 - Intel 86.8%, AMD 11.6%
2003 - Intel 82.6%, AMD 15.8%
2004 - Intel 81.9%, AMD 15.8%
In 2001 Intel dumped their surplus in Japan and gained some market share that way. Another thing driving the figures is the number of chips in the X-Box. Personally I am surprised by these numbers since I do prefer Intel but find the price range and functionality of AMD to be more appealing to my budget.
You forgot to end that sentence with 'overseas'.
Bah I'll run 2K Pro for games until they pry it from my cold dead hands ;) Either that or when WINE starts working with all of my stuff. Then my journey to the dark side..er..linux will be complete.
But the Windows cost is a one time cost. Cedega is an annual cost I believe. It would be cheaper at first but would eventually surpass. I've tried cedega but some of the games that loaded had issues such as invisible buttons or lag. I love the idea though. It makes it possible to play a few games on my widescreen TV running Fedora and MythTV.
Actually it has nothing to do with that. Fasttrack trains are put up for vote in cities (Austin, TX recently did this). The cons people consider when voting are:
A) Where will it stop and who will it benefit B) Who's land is going to be absorbed at "market price" when they draw the line
C) How many millions of dollars is this going to cost us only to be charged to get on it
D) Is it going to be in my way by adding yet another obstacle on my regular path to stop for?
I'm sure there are others but those were some of the main points when Austin put this up for vote. The biggest being "am I going to lose my home?". This brings up an interesting question though. Nobody is mentioning how a place as crowded as Japan manages to clear long straight railways. I'm assuming these already existed and were just upgraded? Even the international airport there was constructed by filling in part of the ocean.
I have never programmed Symbian but have been amazed at how small the installers are for some apps. Mario Kart was 45K I think. Putty.exe for my Symbian is awesome ;)
The way you state it makes it seem good...however...these are the well-off up to rich that we are talking about. Feeding their families isn't an issue in contrast to the thousands laid off who have zero income now to feed their families. I really don't get a "feel-good" attitude about someone bringing in an extra 10 grand to pay for their Porsche insurance at the sacrifice of thousands of blue/white collar workers who are left with nothing.
None of these have assembly lines and such to outsource. A skeleton crew of programmers can maintain a
Any tiny company can compete against any large company by introducing a better product, service, or price point. It has happened millions of times in history.
Yes but this is a new time in history where the jobs are sent overseas and the consumer/original worker who helped get it there is left with no job.
The fact that you think having a job is linked to "luck" really explains a lot about your mentality towards capitalism.
It ahs nothing to do with capitalism. It has everything to do with shareholder and CEO greed. To make the bottom line look better they just ripped away the job, retirements, insurance, pension, and many other forms of retirement from the laboror who helped get them there.
The rest of your post I will ignore as it is based on complete ignorance of how capitalism and the economy works.
Thanks for playing (see above comments). The economy is driven by the consumers who spend their $$ on goods using the $$ they earned from their job. How can you claim you know how the economy works when you don't take into account the source of the income for capitalistic companies? That is the source of everything in capitalism. Without a consumer there is no company. Without a job there is no consumer.
Ahh I wasn't aware it was that way in Canada. Even when I was in grade school way back in the early 80s (born in 72) we had a student who was allowed to leave during prayer. We had a 'moment of silence' for prayer or whatever before football games and that was banned as well. These days it just seems to be kids coming home talking about what they learned about Muslims right after the note saying there would be no Christmas play even for volunteers only. Some small town here in TX had an elective class petition for Christianity signed by almost the whole town yet it was shot down by one person who was anti-Christian saying they had to offer other religion classes as well. The point being...if someone wanted other classes they had the same right to start a petition yet nobody did and it was banned anyway.
Thanks for keeping the reply to non-flame. I usually get slammed for comments like this.
Do the stats take into account disconnects or are they really counting current active subscribers? If about half of the population is subscribed to broadband and not everyone subscribes to it who lives in an area with it available, wouldn't that mean that approximately 75%+ of the country would be blanketed with it? If so that is truly amazing and I commend the telecoms in Canada for accomplishing this. Then again maybe the lines that go down in hard freezes means they have constant replacement of good copper ;) Here in Texas the lines stay up until they rot in the sun. Even most phone lines located far away from any city have a constant hum on them from all of the cracked lines.
This is right along the lines of what I was going to post. I would be more interested in knowing % land mass covered rather than total connections. Sheer size of a country could put them on the top of this list even if they had 2% covered.
Everything EXCEPT Christianity is allowed to be taught in schools now. They even teach about the Muslims during ramadan(sp?) in some of the schools around here. You hear about it on the radio like everything is ok on that then hear about a huge lawsuit 2 ppl make against hundreds of others who want to have a Christmas play. Go figure. Even the bible itself says the Christians will be hunted down and there will be very few safe havens. Every tiny law passed to discriminate against Christian activity is one step closer to making it illegal. I know some people who are non-believers may see this as a good thing but it is the extreme opposite vs letting someone pray for the safety of their child when he/she is in a game. You would swear that the liberals ears will bleed if they have to hear a prayer yet they are all for alternate religions being taught in the schools. Sounds like media brainwashing against Christianity to me..
The WMD thing didn't play out but give me a desert the size of California, limitless budget, and 10 years and I could hide something you'd never find too. Liberal media focuses on the one item of WMDs when the actual speech made declaring Hussein and his sons had 48 hours to leave never mentioned it. It was all about tyranny, oppression, murder, and mass genocide. Too bad the liberals don't care about such things. They seem to be the only ones focused on oil and WMDs since the start of the war. Seriously. Think about it. More ppl died there than in the tsumani by the murderous hands of one man and only conservatives seem to care.
You are completely and totally biased if you truly believe what you just said. Nobody in the left knows a single fact that is incriminating against their own party. Both sides are equally bad. The left just whines much louder and gets everyones attention whether it be true or not (falsified papers against Bush in the service for example). The viewpoints going all the way up the thread from here shows that. They get modded +5 informative for outright speculation of liberal media viewpoints.
Ok it was bad enough it was sleazy advertising to trick people into thinking they were buying American but when he opened it, it had plastic gears, a plastic cover that was so thin you could tear it with your fingers, and lasted an entire 15 minutes before the magic smoke got out. This is not an isolated incident. About the only thing I will buy from overseas is electronics from a previously established name that has already proved itself. They had a special on Christmas light last year on one of those hour long news specials. They grabbed 50 strings made in China and were reporting on how a string of house fires had been caused by the gauge of wiring being half of what is required to be manufactured in the U.S. During the report over 10 of them started smoking or outright burst into flames. I could go on all day about this but it is useless since I will be modded down by those who believe in outsourcing and wish to use mod points to squelch freedom of speech. Rather than mod me down I challenge someone to prove me wrong. Search for faulty chinese products on google and find proof otherwise. Here I'll help get the skeptics started here
This may seem far fetched but using that same logic, imagine now what happens to the large companies with an investment in the overseas market they just helped bring the economy up in while the dollar dropped. The difference between the US dollar they spent while it was worth more stayed the same overseas and will be worth even more if they sell because of the increased economy there. Count that along with tax breaks and I can guarantee you that most of the arguments listed above about feeding families over there were not even remotely near the top of their list of reasons to outsource.
Another oversight is that this "competition" is only valid for very large established companies that have the capital to start such a venture. Ma and Pop shops just trying to make a decent living have no chance vs the conglomerate using the equivalent of legal slave labor overseas. I miss the days when we bashed Iomega for using overseas sweat shops.
Citizens lucky enough to still have a job and enough $$ to buy a product will send the $$ to a conglomerate and in turn that $$ will be used in part to feed a family overseas and will not go into national taxes. This is like a hole in a bucket slowly leaking and it is only leaking from the consumers in the countries shipping out jobs. Once that bucket runs dry...well...that is how a 3rd world country is created. The only "leak" in the opposite direction is right back into the large corporations selling overseas. It never makes it back down to the end-user who started the circulation in the first place.
Another problem with the shareholder argument. Many people, including myself, used to invest in the stock market. I no longer have the means to do this. Will these companies become owned by majority overseas shareholders and themselves be ousted by the board when they decide he doesn't need to be sitting here in the U.S. with his corporate jet any more?
While I see where you are going with this, keep in mind that the "people in IBM" making this decision not only still have their jobs, they have higher profits now. The real cut in costs lies in common sense spending. The larger a company gets the more waste they have in spending. Joe Blow who was making $25,000/yr doesn't come close to the budget decision to spend $10/ream of print paper along with the banner page enforced on every print job. Long distance calls, international flights, training, new facilities, shipping EVERYTHING, etc all add up too.