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Open CRS: Free Government Research Reports

securitas writes "Ted Bridis of the Associated Press reports that more than 8000 Congressional Research Service reports produced exclusively for legislators are now available to the public for free. The Center for Democracy & Technology's Open CRS project is a Web-based central clearinghouse that features several collections of government reports. The research service has '... a staff of more than 700 and a nearly $100 million budget ...' but 'CRS Reports do not become public until a member of Congress releases the report.' The Open CRS project wants your help in obtaining and adding reports to the database."

95 comments

  1. Ok by KaptNKrunchy · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Not like anything important won't get black inked anyway though.

    1. Re:Ok by Cross-Threaded · · Score: 1

      So that's why I have so many black lines on my monitor then?

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    2. Re:Ok by chickenmonger · · Score: 1, Funny

      We can always look forward to events like the "redacted PDFs" episode, though.

    3. Re:Ok by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you view the pdf in a text reader instead of acrobat reader, you can see what was underneath

  2. Re:FUCK THE GOVERNMENT by chez69 · · Score: 3, Funny

    nah, you might catch something

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  3. A nit worth picking ... by timothy · · Score: 3, Insightful

    "Ted Bridis of the Associated Press reports that more than 8000 Congressional Research Service reports produced exclusively for legislators are now available to the public for free."

    Shouldn't that read something more like "Ted Bridis of the Associated Press reports that more than 8000 Congressional Research Service reports produced exclusively for legislators are now available to the public, who already paid for it, and whose children will keep paying thanks to reckless spending and cavalier taxation, at no additional charge"?

    That complaint aside, kudos to the people who helped liberate some of the knowledge (and probably some of the fluff) that tax dollars have paid for.

    Ahem.

    timothy

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    1. Re:A nit worth picking ... by joeljkp · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Having had experience dealing with CRS in the past, I'm of the opinion that they are far from a fluff service.

      They provide comprehensive non-partisan reports on any subject imaginable at the request of the major decision-makers in this country. The public sees this in the short, clearly-worded descriptions that accompany every bill and resolution in the THOMAS system. They don't see the massive stacks of policy and historical reports intended to brief legislators on complex areas they may not have time to explore fully (or want a place to start).

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    2. Re:A nit worth picking ... by BlightThePower · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You think its reckless to spend money on a research service to inform democratically elected representatives with regard to the issues they are debating and making decisions upon?

      I think you take this libertarian notion of not paying taxes for anything superfluous too far, or would you rather politicians legislated on the basis of dog-eared back issues of Time magazine and National Geographic?

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    3. Re:A nit worth picking ... by securitas · · Score: 3, Insightful


      timothy,

      I thought about adding text to the write-up that pointed out the taxpaying public have already paid for those reports (and thousands more).

      I decided against it for a few reasons:

      1. Brevity
      2. The Open CRS site discusses that point
      3. I assumed that the 'staff of more than 700 and a nearly $100 million budget' quotation made it clear enough to Slashdot readers that the reports are funded by tax dollars
      4. 'Free' is much more economical than 'no additional charge'
      5. I didn't want to editorialize so I left that to the comments section.

      But point taken.

    4. Re:A nit worth picking ... by timothy · · Score: 1

      Hey, that's not what I said! (Or meant) :)

      The reckless spending I'm thinking of (which is both cause and symptom of the cavalier taxation) isn't on the CRS, which I understand to be pretty good value -- as government spending goes -- especially if it increases the apparent intelligence of the members of Congress.

      Also, while I tend to vote libertarian, I don't think anyone wants to pay taxes for things that are actually "superfluous" -- right? As to how I'd prefer politicians legislated, well, I'd mostly prefer they do it *less.*

      However, those things on which the government does spend money should be made to benefit the commonwealth as well as they practically can be; in the case of distilled knowledge as in CRS reports, this (opening them up) is the best thing that could happen. However, I still think it's worthwhile distinguishing this from "free," when all that money comes from somewhere; when the government is of / for / by the people, the government per se does not have its own money, only that granted by the populace to do its job. It's a leaky system, though, and there are lots of frictions (some of them quite reasonable) that sometimes make it hard to return as much value as I'd like for the tax dollars spent.

      And it's late, and I have stuff to do, so ... I'll end my rant here!

      Cheers,

      timothy

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    5. Re:A nit worth picking ... by timothy · · Score: 1

      heh -- if I hadn't refreshed the page and noticed that there were nearly no comments up, I might have left well enough alone. And I don't think anyone was misled by your phrasing; I just get hung up on certain words, and am not a big fan of the way the government tends to spend my money, so that's what my brain made my fingers do. "No additional charge" sure would be awkward, of course, I was just being contrary about it.

      Of course, for a micro-rant ... 700 people and nearly 100 million dollars?! That's pretty hefty, per-head. Do they write with James Bond typewriters?

      timothy

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    6. Re:A nit worth picking ... by timothy · · Score: 1

      I hope you're right about the lack of fluff, and don't have specific reason to doubt it.

      I'd prefer that the "major decision makers in this country" be ordinary citizens living their individual private lives rather than politicians, though; I'd like the job of Congress (generally) to be fairly pedestrian: keep laws in tune with the grand scheme laid out by the Constitution, in some cases by writing new ones and in some cases by revising or eliminating old ones.

      I do not believe that new laws are generally beneficial (especially ones that interfere with what should be decided by the market -- which, to me, means "just about everything" -- but I'll stipulate preemptively that there might be some cases where laws make enough sense to be worth the coercion which accompanies them).

      timothy

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    7. Re:A nit worth picking ... by wwwojtek · · Score: 1
      it's not that hefty - it adds up to about 130K per person. Salaries will easily account for half of that. A lot of their employees have PhDs.

      I'm an academic and I relied on a number of CRS papers in the past - they are usually excellently written, non-partisan, just the kind of source you want to look at if you need an objective reference on the topic you are interested in. In each case had to go to the library/send RAs to make copiess off microfilms because they were not (or were hard to find) online, so a central repository like opencrs is very welcom

    8. Re:A nit worth picking ... by wwwojtek · · Score: 0

      140K it should be

  4. Re:FUCK THE GOVERNMENT by Elbereth · · Score: 1, Funny

    As Benjamin Franklin once said, "He who would give up a chance to fuck the government deserves no more chances to fuck."
    Or something.

  5. Report on the Patriot Act by Woogiemonger · · Score: 5, Informative

    Just for a heads up, a couple of the reports cover details on the Patriot Act including provisions that expire at the end of this year. Figured it was a topic of interest on /.

  6. If the government were truly free by Dancin_Santa · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If the government were truly representative of the People, you wouldn't have trouble with openness. As it stands, though, the People care more about their Big Macs and SUVs than voting.

    This project is doomed to stagnate. The People are satisfied with their little flag bumper stickers and patriotic country music. They have little interest in the minutiae of government.

    And who blames them? That's the reason we have representatives in the first place.

    1. Re:If the government were truly free by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      yeah but the represntatives are just as stupid as the citizens you described.

    2. Re:If the government were truly free by QuantumG · · Score: 1

      As such we should abolish voting and replace it with something better. I suggest a lottery, just like we currently do for duty jury which is arguable way more important than legislation passing.

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    3. Re:If the government were truly free by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 4, Insightful

      If the government were truly representative of the People, you wouldn't have trouble with openness. As it stands, though, the People care more about their Big Macs and SUVs than voting.

      The government *is* representative of the people: as you say yourself, the people doesn't give a fuck about the government, so it's no surprise the government doesn't give a fuck about the people either.

      People have the government they deserve: if all they can do is groan a little during tax time, but otherwise trust the administration to run things, what do you expect? The government will (and does) run amok eventually.

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    4. Re:If the government were truly free by NanoGator · · Score: 2, Insightful

      "As it stands, though, the People care more about their Big Macs and SUVs than voting."

      I'd find this more insightful if not for the fact that nearly all politicians are self-serving asses. The problem isn't with the voters, it's who's running.

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    5. Re:If the government were truly free by FleaPlus · · Score: 2, Interesting

      As such we should abolish voting and replace it with something better.

      I prefer futarchy, myself.

      http://hanson.gmu.edu/futarchy.pdf

      Democracies often fail to aggregate information, while speculative markets excel at this
      task. We consider a new form of governance, wherein voters would say what we want, but
      speculators would say how to get it. Elected representatives would oversee the after-the-fact
      measurement of national welfare, while market speculators would say which policies they
      expect to raise national welfare. Those who recommend policies that regressions suggest
      will raise GDP should be willing to endorse similar market advice. Using a qualitative
      engineering-style approach, we present three scenarios, consider thirty design issues, and
      then present a more specific design responding to those concerns.

    6. Re:If the government were truly free by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If the voters cared, the politicans would be under control.

    7. Re:If the government were truly free by wallykeyster · · Score: 3, Funny
      As it stands, though, the People care more about their Big Macs and SUVs than voting.

      How many voters does it take to change a lightbulb?

      None. Voters can't change anything.

    8. Re:If the government were truly free by fuck+technology · · Score: 1

      It becomes more and more obvious everyday that government is obsolete. When will people take their lives into their own hands and start living without the chains of the sick abuse (any use of authority is abuse) of authority we call government.

    9. Re:If the government were truly free by quarkscat · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      "People have the government they deserve..."

      Well, I do have to object to that statement.

      The 2000 national election was not decided by the
      voters -- it was decided by shady politicians
      that illegally disenfranchised tens of thousands
      of voters, who used an illegal Florida state law
      that violated due process by barring state-wide
      ballot recounts, an apathetic US Senate that
      refused to protest the election, and a US Supreme
      Court. Don't blame THAT election on the voters.

      The 2004 national elections were not much better.
      The same method of illegally disenfranchising
      voters was committed again. But this time, we
      had $6 Billion USD worth of electronic voting
      machines and electronic accumulators installed,
      with untested software, very poor or nonexistent
      security, and no paper trail for validating the
      election results. If the tabulated votes came
      close to matching politically motivated exit
      polls, the vote count was deemed "close enough".

      When this country gives up on the notion of instant
      election returns, and switches back to hand counted
      paper ballots, I can almost guarantee that the
      election results will not favor the regime that
      is currently in power.

    10. Re:If the government were truly free by Breakfast+Pants · · Score: 0

      "I'd find this more insightful if not for the fact that nearly all politicians are self-serving asses. The problem isn't with the voters, it's who's running.

      I'd find this more insightful if not for the fact that nearly all voters vote on said politicians. The problem isn't just with the politicians, it is with the voters and the politicians.

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    11. Re:If the government were truly free by tempest69 · · Score: 2, Interesting
      People dont expect the government to be competent. They dont really expect the government to be active and efficient at resolving the issues of the everyday person. I'm quite suprised that the government is even close to the level of service that it maintains today.

      I dont care to worry about the day to day dealings of the government, Reading what congress changes daily (Reading the Full Bill with comprehension) would eat about 79 hours out of each day. When the Patriot Act was passed 98-0 how many of the senators actually read through the THOUSANDS of pages? I cant imagine more than five. The point is that it cant be done, and even if it could it would eat your life up.

      I want to be sure that I have a good shot at a good life. I want to have a fair and just government. We have some issues, but the down side is that America as a people tolerate things I find wrong. As long as your in a minority of your belief, you wont be heard.

      The Government does care about the people and their sensitivities. The problem is that people will always have some sort of opinion that is outside of what you feel is right.

      If people REALLY wanted their vote to count they would join the party opposed to their own, and vote against the primary election frontrunner who has an opinion you dislike. Then you've hedged your bets on issues you care about. You can still vote againt your new party in the general election..

      Vote with your wallet, The huge election money has to come from somewhere, make sure that your not spending money to elect the opposition. I'm wondering how many republicans permanantly switched to del-monte ketchup?

      It's late, I'm ranting,, I probably should have just popped this junk in a journal.

      Storm

    12. Re:If the government were truly free by Cat_Byte · · Score: 1

      Thinking like that gets you a dictator like Hussein who will kill hundreds of thousands that do not go along with his agenda. Of course we all see that the world does not support ousting of someone like that so you'd be stuck with it.

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    13. Re:If the government were truly free by fuck+technology · · Score: 1

      the thinking i have described is completely antithetical to what your are mentioning.

    14. Re:If the government were truly free by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      For the briefest of moments, I thought that PDF was a joke. But then I remembered back to the kind of cryptofascists-in-libertarians-clothing that I always ran into when I was at GMU a decade ago. It doesn't surprise me at all to see one of them suggest the masturbating of policy via "the invisible hand" so that its free-flowing love can cleanse the people.

      The looniest elite academics I saw in college were never lefties, as you often hear decried in the media. They were always the libertarian grad students, plying their networks for someone who could land them a cushy gig with a think tank. "In an ideal state, ALL government functions would be handled by the free market. For example, the right to enforce the law and collect the resulting fines can be a marketable asset." You go on thinking that, Mr. adjunct Econ professor, but that sounds an awful lot like the Mafia to me.

      Hey, I have an idea. Lets create a new form of government based on the Ponzi Scheme. I'll be the "President", and up to 5 people can join up as "Vice Presidents". They'll each recruit a bunch of "Senators".... Gimme a month or so and I could probably flesh it out into a dissertation of similar quality to the above PDF.

    15. Re:If the government were truly free by antonymous · · Score: 1

      This project is doomed to stagnate. The People are satisfied with their little flag bumper stickers and patriotic country music. They have little interest in the minutiae of government.

      I have to disagree...from the reports I've read so far, they are all concise and direct, not the wonkish 80-page reports that other gov't-related offices churn out. Remember, the CRS is writing for congressmen, not policy wonks!

    16. Re:If the government were truly free by FleaPlus · · Score: 1

      Yeah... futarchy is a great idea, but it'll take some work to figure out how to introduce it to people in a way that doesn't lead to knee-jerk reactions like yours.

    17. Re:If the government were truly free by falconwolf · · Score: 1

      When the Patriot Act was passed 98-0 how many of the senators actually read through the THOUSANDS of pages?

      Not one congress critter read the whole thing, at best they only read parts of it. I'd bet there's not many people who recall that when congress was "debating" the PATRIOT Act Ralph Nader challenged everyone in congress to take a quiz on the act, saying that if they passed it he would donate I think it was $10,000 to any charity the person wanted it donated to and not one person took him up on it. Here's an article written by Ron Paul, one of the less than handful in congress who voted against it, Monitor Thy Neighbor

      Falcon
    18. Re:If the government were truly free by falconwolf · · Score: 1

      I'd find this more insightful if not for the fact that nearly all politicians are self-serving asses. The problem isn't with the voters, it's who's running

      If people don't like who's running then they need to get someone they do want to run or run themselves. The problem with this is who is willing to deal with the hassle, have their lives put through an electronic microscope, or have dirt manufactured on them? Carl Rove is real good at that.

      Falcon
  7. Re:seems like too much money by Parham · · Score: 2, Insightful

    100,000,000 / 700 = 142,857.14

    that's just for the staff costs... now take out their paper expenses, mail, telephone services, and all the other office stuff that comes with it. I've heard that paper costs an arm and a leg in some places, so I wouldn't put it past these people. Some of the top people probably do get paid a lot, but a majority probably wouldn't make more than the average person after all the expenses of running the place.

  8. What's the point? by frovingslosh · · Score: 1, Interesting

    I understand the taxpayers already spent 100 million on this, likely a lot more, but are they really worth anything at all? Isn't it just going to cost the taxpayers more to make 8000 or more reports available for free? Do these reports have any real value at all, or are they just noise and opnions?

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  9. Read this newsletter! by Saint+Aardvark · · Score: 5, Informative
    If you've not already subscribed to the Secrecy Newsletter from the Federation of American Scientists, or added their RSS feed to your reader, do it now! It's an incredibly fascinating -- and exasperating -- daily report on government secrecy around the world.

    Plus, Steven Aftergood has been publishing CRS reports for a while now. Here's what he has to say on why the CRS won't release 'em in the first place:

    "CRS HAS NO PUBLIC MISSION"

    Why aren't non-confidential Congressional Research Service reports automatically made available to the public? At first glance, the policy appears to reflect institutional arrogance or reflexive secrecy on the part of CRS and the Congress. But there is more to it than that, congressional officials say.

    CRS repeatedly stresses that it works for Congress, and only for Congress.

    "CRS assists every Member and committee," said Director Daniel P. Mulhollan in May 23 testimony before the House Appropriations Committee. "All of our work is confidential and focuses solely, directly, and specifically on the needs of the congressional community. CRS has no public mission." By insisting on this point, CRS is distinguishing itself from the larger and higher-profile Government Accountability Office. More subtly, CRS is repudiating any comparison with the Office of Technology Assessment (OTA), which was dismantled by Congressional Republicans in 1995, an event that is seared in the consciousness of CRS officials.

    What CRS is saying is that it has no institutional agenda of its own aside from support to members of Congress, and that, unlike OTA, it takes no position on disputed policy matters.

    CRS believes that its uniqueness as a congressional support agency, which constitutes its central claim to continued funding, would only be diluted by direct interactions with public consumers.

    "Over time, CRS products might come to be written with a large public audience in mind and could no longer be focused solely on congressional needs," CRS Director Mulhollan said in a written statement yesterday.

    And the current congressional leadership apparently agrees.

    "CRS has received clear indication from its oversight committees that no change in the current policy is authorized," Director Mulhollan wrote yesterday.

    "It is important to recognize that while the restriction on public access to CRS products is frequently characterized as CRS 'resistance,' the reality is that the policy is a congressional one," he noted.

    In any case, "As CRS obtains no copyright in its products, little can be done to discourage the trend toward further public availability of CRS products brought about without the permission of a Member or committee."

    A 1999 CRS memorandum outlined several reasons why it believed direct public access to CRS products would have unfavorable legal and institutional consequences.

    See "Congressional Policy Concerning the Distribution of CRS Written Products," March 9, 1999:

    http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/policy.html

    1. Re:Read this newsletter! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      This might be a tougher battle, but would it be possible to get Congress to change its own policies, rather than CRS's policies?

      Currently, the default is that the reports are effectively secret, unless a congresscritter decides to release it. How about making a congressional policy that effectively inverts that. Congress gets the reports, and they go public automatically after, say 30 days, during which there is the potential for review. Anything truly classified/confidential could be flaggedas staying congressional-eyes-only for a certain finite length of time. Flagging could be done by having a sufficiently large minimum number of congresscritters *explicitly* request it.

  10. What's the point?-Lend an ear. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well at least we'll know how the legislators are being informed about what comes up.

  11. How Much Do Government Wonks Make? by Saeed+al-Sahaf · · Score: 2, Informative

    Google for the "GS" scale. Most government employees are anywhere from GS-5 to GS-9. Executives are around GS-13 to GS-15. It's not that much.

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  12. I read a useful report from this service last week by rhess460 · · Score: 2, Informative

    I think there is some good content, for example:

    U.S. Housing Prices: Is There a Bubble?
    May 16, 2003

    http://www.opencrs.com/document/RL31918/

  13. Authenticity by hobotron · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This is a great step for authenticity, Lord only knows how many bad/misrepresented/outright made up reports have graced the committees' of our government.

    Hopefully this quasi peer review will help eliminate erroneous research.

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    There is truth in humor.
  14. The government they deserve? by Dancin_Santa · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Surely you mean that the people get the government that the majority deserves. I don't think we can say that any of the people voting for Gore or McCain in 2000 or Kerry in 2004 deserve the current U.S. administration.

    So what is the giving-a-fuck minority to do when they are overwhelmed in numbers by Joe Sixpack?

    1. Re:The government they deserve? by TheKidWho · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      wow only slashdot would my post get modded as flamebait while the gp gets modded insightful!

    2. Re:The government they deserve? by TheKidWho · · Score: 1

      Ooo looks like some mods have their panties in a bunch!!!

      Burn Karma BURN!!!

  15. The deep-rooted problem by parasonic · · Score: 1, Insightful

    There's an inherent problem that lies in politically-sponsored research. Having "research" done on political ideas is a tactic that politions (e.g. Reagan) use to justify their point. If there is a group with sufficient grounds to cause any *possible* roadblock, the politician will have a committee research the issue, and then he is able to freely push his agenda once more because he has "disproven" the group. The bias may be so great that the work is worthless to all but the politicians themselves.

  16. Well, duh... by ankhcraft · · Score: 4, Informative

    "Over time, CRS products might come to be written with a large public audience in mind and could no longer be focused solely on congressional needs," CRS Director Mulhollan said in a written statement yesterday. And the current congressional leadership apparently agrees.

    I worked as a contractor at Congressional Research Services for a bit over a year, so let me put in my two cents.

    Of course they agree, because it's an obvious truth. When does a author not consider their audience when writing a document? How hard would it be to try not to consider your audience when writing a piece? Furthermore, how cumbersome do you think it would be, administratively, to effectively convince one's employees not to worry about what hundreds of millions of people think about your writing, and just focus on a few hundred? Here's a better idea: Don't worry about any of the above, because CRS's job is to inform congressman and their staffers on the issues so that they may legislative effectively.

    In my stay at CRS, I learned a good amount about a part of our government which was previously entirely unknown to me. CRS does very good work for our congressman, and I was proud to build good software for CRS employees' and congressman to use alike.

    Also, it's worth noting that 99.999% of what you'll find in CRS reports are gleaned from sourced that any Joe Q. Public could find anywhere. It's condensed into a format that lets congressman read a lot of facts at once, without having to go read 20-30 books/magazines/publications to glean the same content.

    OpenCRS is probably as public as this stuff is ever going to get. This way, CRS still doesn't have to deal w/ the public. They can keep their target audience narrow and their coverage broad.

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    1. Re:Well, duh... by OzPhIsH · · Score: 1

      "Over time, CRS products might come to be written with a large public audience in mind and could no longer be focused solely on congressional needs,"

      That sounds like a problem with CRS then. If CRS Director Mulhollan can't keep CRS directed at their target audience (congress) than congress should just do away with them at that point and support a different organization that stays on task: writing reports for congress. Blaming the public because CRS wouldn't be able stick to thier mission is ridiculous, and using it as justification for keeping the public in the dark as to the information congress receives is even worse.

      When does a author not consider their audience when writing a document? How hard would it be to try not to consider your audience when writing a piece?

      Your absolutly correct in these statements, but once again, just because the public is reading the reports doesn't necessarily mean that the public magically becomes the target audience. If writers can't differentiate between their target audience and "someone who might read the material" they shouldn't be writing.

      Furthermore, how cumbersome do you think it would be, administratively, to effectively convince one's employees not to worry about what hundreds of millions of people think about your writing, and just focus on a few hundred?

      Uhhh, isn't this what they are doing already? Just focus on writing for a few hundred congressmen?

      Here's a better idea: Don't worry about any of the above, because CRS's job is to inform congressman and their staffers on the issues so that they may legislative effectively.

      Yes, I agree, that is exactly what CRS should do. Who is suggesting that change at all? All people want to do is read those reports. That shouldn't involve any kind of modification or dumbing down of the original process. At that point they wouldn't remain the "independent" CRS reports I was interested in in the first place. I personally think they would be useful when looking at congressional votes. Did congressman X vote for Y despite the facts in the report being critical of Y? It can potentially let citizens better grasp the motives of their representitives. Additionally such reports might help citizens form their own opinions of the issues.

      In my stay at CRS, I learned a good amount about a part of our government which was previously entirely unknown to me.

      I'm glad that it sounds like you had a great experience. However, I must say that parts of the government entirely unknown to probably most of the public is NOT something that we need to encourage to foster.

      "It's condensed into a format that lets congressman read a lot of facts at once, without having to go read 20-30 books/magazines/publications to glean the same content."

      That sounds great. I don't see why it is unreasonable to make what sounds like a very useful resource, that the taxpayers paid for, available to... the tax payers. I mean this is congress's JOB, and they don't have time to read 20-30 publications, right? How can you reasonably expect CITIZENS to read and research those same 20-30 publications just to keep up with congress, in addition to all their other responsibilities?

      So I grasp what you're saying, We don't want CRS to become some politically-correct-don't-write-anything-really-us eful-the- public-might-see-it organization, but I really don't imagine that happening. It all just sounds like they're trying to justify keeping the public in the dark by saying it would be for our own good. I've had enough of that logic lately.

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      "To lead the people, you must walk behind them"

    2. Re:Well, duh... by Hartree · · Score: 4, Insightful

      So I grasp what you're saying, We don't want CRS to become some politically-correct-don't-write-anything-really-us eful-the- public-might-see-it organization, but I really don't imagine that happening.

      I can.

      In the late 70s when there was congressional investigation over windfall profits by the oil companies. There were also trials resulting from it. The lawyers of those companies tried to subpeona the files of the CRS to try to use in their cases. (Likely it was a tactic to create a chilling effect).

      Now, multiply that by everly pressure group and lobbyist you can think of on any side of any issue. It's hard to write a balanced and neutral report when you're worried about being called to testify, or going to have your phone overflow with angry (insert-special-interest).

    3. Re:Well, duh... by akb · · Score: 1

      Personally I find the legislative branch's (and your) attitude toward information puzzling. The Executive Branch produces all kinds of information with millions of people watching thanks to FOIA. Officials responsible for producing that information are expected to do their jobs in a responsible manner.

      How do you recouncile your view with the values codified in FOIA? At a very fundamental level those reports belong to the people of the US who paid for them.

    4. Re:Well, duh... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Two points in response to the fear of CRS reports being watered down by public "pressure."

      1) Look at the Government Accountability Office (GAO) as an example. GAO reports are requested by members of Congress, written for Congress, and made available to the public. Has public availability caused GAO to stray from its mission? I would argue that it hasn't. CRS, like GAO is entirely capable of keeping its eye on the ball and writing quality reports on legislative issues for Congress.

      2) All CRS reports can already be obtained by the public through a service called Penny Hill Press (http://www.pennyhill.com./ The only catch is that Penny Hill sells the reports. If there was a negative side-effect to reports being made "public" wouldn't we have already seen it?

    5. Re:Well, duh... by Hartree · · Score: 1

      Point one can be argued, as GAO is a considerably different organization in scope and legal grounding than CRS.

      As to point 2: Don't you love it when something you didn't know about renders your position moot? Yes, the mods should score my previous post -3:pwned!

      CRS reports used to be rather hard to get hold of, but PHP apparently has a backdoor into getting them. Since this would be well known on Capital Hill, at least to me, it looks like de facto publication.

  17. Re:I read a useful report from this service last w by zippthorne · · Score: 0

    That's an awful lot of words for,
    "No*"

    *unless there is one

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  18. Other meanings by lheal · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    Cranio-Rectal Syndrome.

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  19. Distributed Government Document Browsing by sjoplin · · Score: 2, Interesting

    This new glut of public information gave me an idea. Something similar to Distributed Proofreaders but for scrutinising government documents. Volunteer readers would look at a few scanned pages, marking the ones that would be of broad interest, and then the most interesting get compiled into a list.

    If only there were 25 hours in a day.

  20. When they say "free reports"... by Stormwatch · · Score: 1

    ...does it mean the reports are GPL'ed? We should ask Stallman to check this!

  21. Re:not to mention... by goofballs · · Score: 1

    no, this isn't going to cost the taxpayers more to make these reports available for free. opencrs is apparently being funded by CDT- http://www.cdt.org/. all the additional costs incurred by the taxpayers is from any negligible costs for congressional staffers to disseminate these reports.

  22. Kill me with excitement by Squawker · · Score: 1, Funny

    The chance to read thousands of pages of undigested government reports? I can't wait! Maybe just as soon as I've finished reading all my phone books.

  23. Re:FUCK THE GOVERNMENT by Chicago+Wolves · · Score: 1

    Maybe not fuck it, but I'm all for reducing the size of it. Our government is becoming more powerful each day and our civil liberties are being taken away left and right. Recent rulings showed that they now have the power of taking away your homes! As a U.S. citizen it is pretty sad to see our liberties being flushed down the toilet by beauracrats that are too ignorant to even read the bills that they pass.

    People need to wake up and say no to this tyranny!

  24. Re:FUCK THE GOVERNMENT by commodoresloat · · Score: 0, Offtopic
    IN SOVIET RUSSIA, government fucks you.

    Sorry, sorry, I had to.

  25. Program Policy/Accountability at the state level by Jon+Abbott · · Score: 1

    There are numerous program policy and accountability agencies at the state level that create similar reports for lawmakers (and the public alike). OPPAGA, the Office of Program Policy Analysis and Government Accountability, is one such example. I worked there for three years, and can safely say these folks are the most smart, objective folks around when it comes to issues that matter to state government. Almost all of their reports are available online in PDF format.

  26. Considering Congress no longer works for us by Shivetya · · Score: 1

    why should it be a surprise than an organization that serves them would not seek to serve us?

    Congress has long left the public interest behind, its probably been a good 50 years since they were accountable or felt accountable to the people. They have their own retirement programs so it not be surprising they have created other government groups just to service themselves.

    Now, one way to start fixing this is to make the public aware of it. The problem to overcome is the lack of interest the public has.

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  27. My Dad says everyone gets this by karlandtanya · · Score: 0

    when they get old

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  28. There is a lot of good stuff here. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There is a lot of good stuff here - related to what is discussed daily on /. reports on communications issues, privacy, profiling, copyright, DRM, DCMA (DCMA for dummies) and so on.

    These topics have been raised (and thus researched and documented) for the process of governing your country - I'd show a bit of interest in the content - especially as these are probably some of the only reports which get used in the process before laws get created (getting the relevant peeople aware of these issues).

  29. Re:FUCK THE GOVERNMENT by jratcliffe · · Score: 1

    "Recent rulings showed that they now have the power of taking away your homes!"

    The gov't has always had this power (well, at least since the 5th Amendment was ratified in December 1791). The gov't may take private property for "public use," so long as it pays "just compensation." The debate this year was around the Supreme Court's decision in Kelo v. New London, upholding the actions of a local gov't which used its eminent domain powers to transfer property from one private holder to another, as part of a local redevelopment project.

  30. Re:They want help by cecille · · Score: 1

    Maybe some do, but that's not the point. There are a LOT of reports there, and almost certainly not all of them are relased. Especially for some of the older stuff, why would a member of congress bother to release a report unless someone asked for it? People can ask members of congress for the reports, they release them, and then openCRS also grabs a copy.

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  31. PDFS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yea,PrintFu needs to jump all over this!

  32. Re:FUCK THE GOVERNMENT by krlynch · · Score: 1

    Eminent domain powers are not granted by the 5th Amendment ... it's a restriction on the extent of those powers. My understanding is that the "necessary and proper" clause of Article I, Section 8 is the Constitutional basis permitting "takings". The 5th Amendment provides that IF the federal government exercises eminent domain, then it MUST provide you "just compensation"; previously, takings did not require compensation of any kind. The 14th Amendment extends those protections against state and local governments.

    Not a lawyer blah blah blah...

  33. FOIA for Congress by akb · · Score: 1

    The Freedom of Information Act is one of the better laws the US has. All information produced by the USG belongs to its citizens (who paid for it), FOIA dictates that it must be shared unless a fairly narrow set of criteria is met.

    Unfortunately, FOIA does not apply to the legislative branch, as Congress apparently saw fit to exempt themselves from it. I could entertain an argument that FOIA is not appropriate for Congress, however, it is difficult to recouncile the values codified in FOIA with not making CRS reports available to the public.

    Where's Newt when you need him? THOMAS is considered his baby, information freedom needs an upgrade.

  34. I find it ironic that by suitepotato · · Score: 1

    this has the same acronym as the condition Can't Remember Sh*t which is something I often think most members of congress are afflicted with, but then so many don't read these research reports and their staffers are given to spinning the overview to their bosses to suit their bosses' point of view (frequently that Cranio-Rectal Syndrome mentioned already which is also funny).

    Now, instead of the ratio of external readers to congressmen being 10 to 1, it will be more like 1,000 to 1 which is sad given that the population is over 260,000,000 and paying for these things. I'm sure though that there will be some people now scanning through these for possible /. articles. "Congress recently generated a report on AMD and other non-Intel processors with regard to national security..." or some such...

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  35. Here's an good find... by Tyrsenus · · Score: 1

    "the National Commission on Terrorism (NTC), a congressionally mandated bi-partisan body, issued a report providing a blueprint for U.S. counterterrorism policy with both policy and legislative recommendations. The report could be significant in shaping the direction of U.S. policy and the debate in Congress. It generally argues for a more aggressive U.S. strategy in combating terrorism. Critics, however, argue that NTC conclusions and recommendations ignore competing U.S. goals and interests; i.e that a proactive strategy might lead to the curbing of individual rights and liberties, damage important commercial interests, and widen disagreements between the U.S. and its allies over using the "stick" as opposed to the "carrot" approach in dealing with states that actively support or countenance terrorism."

    This was dated February 6, 2001, 8 months before the Patriot Act (the aforementioned report was issued June 6, 2000).

    http://www.opencrs.com/document/RS20598/

  36. Medical Marijuana by Grifter · · Score: 1

    RL30274
    Medical Use of Marijuana: Policy and Regulatory Issues
    March 01, 2002

    Look up this article. You will find it's a historical listing of women in the congress. Also the pdf download is corrupted. I wonder if they are hiding anything.

  37. Re:not to mention $100,000,000 by frovingslosh · · Score: 1
    is from any negligible costs for congressional staffers to disseminate these reports

    By negligible costs for congressional staffers I assume you mean like the negligible one huundred million the congressional staffers were paid to create them in the first place.

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  38. what do they write with? by falconwolf · · Score: 1

    700 people and nearly 100 million dollars?! That's pretty hefty, per-head. Do they write with James Bond typewriters?

    What they write with is either black ink, to hide things, or invisible ink, again to hide things.

    Falcon
  39. secrecy by falconwolf · · Score: 1

    The Executive Branch produces all kinds of information with millions of people watching thanks to FOIA.

    The current admin, Bush's, is all to happy keeping secrets. Especially when it comes to whistleblowers. Take Sibel Edmonds , she worked as an FBI translator until they fired her because she was making too much noise. After she testified to congress after 911 the Bush admin slapped a classified rating on the info and a gag order on her. When she hired an attorney to sue over being falsely fired she had to get permission from the admin just to tell her lawyer anything. Or take Mary Schneider an INS agent who reported to Attorney General John Ashcroft and the FBI that terrorists linked to bin Laden were living in Central Florida and that they were preparing for an attack before 911. There have also been reports the Bush admin has buried scientific reports that don't fit their beliefs.

    Falcon
    1. Re:secrecy by akb · · Score: 1

      While I agree that the Bush administration is rolling back quite a bit of access that's important to our democracy, there is a vast amount of information that the executive branch routinely releases because of FOIA. The principle has been ensconced within the bureacracy enough that it would be extremely difficult to reverse.

      If CRS was under the executive branch these reports would be online because they would release them rather than have to deal with FOIA requests which require more work on their part.

    2. Re:secrecy by falconwolf · · Score: 1

      If CRS was under the executive branch these reports would be online because they would release them rather than have to deal with FOIA requests which require more work on their part.

      It doesn't take the FOIA to have the reports from CRS released, what is needed to someone from congress requesting them, then for that person to release them.

      Falcon
    3. Re:secrecy by akb · · Score: 1

      A FOIA that extended to the legislative branch would mean that any citizen is entitled to the information not just members of Congress. There's a big difference between a right to information and access to information being a privilege that can be granted when a member of Congress decides todo so.

      I hope you can see the difference between a right and a conditional privilege. FOIA is one of the most important tools that the press has for gaining information about what the US govt is doing.

    4. Re:secrecy by falconwolf · · Score: 1

      I hope you can see the difference between a right and a conditional privilege. FOIA is one of the most important tools that the press has for gaining information about what the US govt is doing.

      Yes I know the difference between rights and priviledges, and know all too well about FOIA requests. Leonard Peltier's legal defense team has been waiting year to get thousands of pages from FOIA requests of FBI records.

      Falcon
  40. Re:not to mention $100,000,000 by goofballs · · Score: 1

    umm, no. if you're going to be sarcastic, at least try to be correct. the $100M the article referred to was the CRS budget- they are not congressional staffers. by negligible cost, i'm referring to the staff that all congressmen already have- you request the already completed documents from them, and they do the leg work of getting it to you.