I want you to know, that I agree 100% with what you have said. No argument at all. But I want to pull the lens back a long ways and say that this is why War is horrible, This is why War is War. It is cruel, and indefensible,horrible and wrong. It is brutal beyond understanding too. And this is why you never go to War unless you are totally committed to destroy your enemy. We in the West do not commit to that anymore because we understand that totally destroying a people or a nation is wrong. This is what is supposed to make us more civilized and This is what makes this act so outre. This is the brutality of War, real War, not the crap most Americans get from a John Wayne movie. And that is why they hide it and lie about it. No one in the US really wants to see the real war, this is why Bush hid the caskets for so long. This is why they lie about friendly fire.
I have heard it said that politicians who have been in war are less likely to want one (look even at McCain before him running and after). If so, we have raised a crop that will do us proud soon.
As a foot note I will say that I am the most Hawkish Liberal that you have ever met. But I think I understand War and its costs and its consequences. We were doomed the moment we stopped looking for Bin Laden, who we never were (are) going to find anyway.
But then how do you mesh the 'bootstrap & personal responsibility' mentality of the Right with the 'Anyone who wants to go to college should be able to' mentality of... well everyone? Maybe we should make college free for everyone like k-12? Oh wait the Right wants that to die too.
I half agree with your sentiments about the increase of costs at colleges (and I work at one). But I will state that the driver of *that* is the 'bootstrap & personal responsibility' mentality of the Right.
We underfund education... and have too little oversight of that money. I watch money pour down the drain where I work and wish we had an external entity give some oversight to it all. But even with that oversight we would not have enough money to do what needs to done.
How much is enough? That is a classical questoin when dealing with education funding. To me it is the same as asking how much rock do you need, I dunno, how high do you want this tower? Every answer is infinity. But again, how tall do you want that tower? The real answer is taller than anywhere else in the world.
Religious people, across each of the 3 major monotheisms are all, every single one of them, either looking forward to, enabling, or otherwise taking part in a plot that involves the extinction of the human race. If they don't, they are not religious. It's as simple as that.
Hate to tell you buddy, but you and good old Fred are more alike then you are unalike.
Its called Reductio ad absurdum Dr Spock. You said you didn't understand why people were having a problem with it. I have taken precious seconds from my life to help you be more informed. You see, you find Interpretive Dance sensationalist. What I am trying to show you is that !!TA'DA!! So is twitter. No one thinks long and hard about sending out a tweet. And that he tweeted facts has nothing to do with it. Here is a little SAT stuff for you, maybe it will help.
Twitter:Journalism::Moneys flinging poo:Art
Another
The Death Penalty:Justice::Twitter:[you fill in here]
Bonus question: Why do I and others think it was ghoulish?
That's a lesson that the kid will remember for a long time. And when that kid is a wage earner, and the principal wants an increase to his social security check and better medicare, don't you think this kid will remember how it feels to have power over someone else and how to smack them down?
"Yeah with a lifetime to look back on I really was an asshole to Mr Principal, thank you for the smack down, I am a better person for it. Here, have some more Medicare, you deserve it for all the bullshit you had to go through for me."
Like that? Is that what they are going to say? Not everyone ends up bitter and twisted.
The most successful creature on earth is not Man. It is the grasses. We water them, feed them, and spread their young. Any alien watching from space would say that we are slaves to wheat, corn, rye, barley, and green green grass.
The computer models are getting better at this, but man what a storm. It is a wonder though to watch a whole branch of the evolutionary tree get torn off its ancient Linean home and regrafted back to the trunk or a different branch entirely.
My Systematics professor would say that you can only define a species after all the members are dead, and thus with the rise of Man, the greatest number of species have been created since the fall of the dinosaurs. I always enjoyed that. "We killed the Dodo!" "No, we Created the Dodo!" And that clear day is still there, we just can't see enough time. A mule can still be made, but it is sterile. Thus we can see two species that are on the brink. And I admit I would love to see if you could breed a high end Triple Crown horse with a random burro from rural Argentina. There are Sub-Species, and they make sense in context, but in reality it is it's own feild of study.
folks who believe in "morphological species" (often botanists - people who say a species is a species because it is visually distinct)
As a botanist I can tell you that your datum here is incorrect. Truth be told botany is on the cutting edge of DNA descriptors of species and sub-species (and further down the rabbit hole) mainly because no one cares if a ill fed and watered valiant corn plant dies for the cause. The software out there to describe some of this is awesome, literally like watching a swaying tree swap branches (which it is). However, we do not "believe in 'morphological species'". They are useful for drilling down yes, but the devil as always, is in the details.
Sera
What an unusual metric you have there. I can think of very very few things that taste better than a milkshake. Does that make all of them taste like shit? Not hardly. Just because you don't "get it" doesn't mean that others don't as well. You cut the bullshit first.
This experiment may not LOOK that impressive, but consider that the exact same technique can be used to computer modify any type of life you want in any way. Want a hen with teeth - no problem. Replace the feathers with scales... just a matter of computer programming, then "print" the DNA and animate it.
Except of course they blindly programmed. They copied the DNA, no more no less. All that they did was prove that a DNA photocopy machine can work. Yup, we knew that years ago. We could make DNA years ago, maybe I am missing something, but I am not surprised by this at all.
Slashdot Mirror
oh ... I dunno, get slashdotted?
Suemas,,
I want you to know, that I agree 100% with what you have said. No argument at all. But I want to pull the lens back a long ways and say that this is why War is horrible, This is why War is War. It is cruel, and indefensible,horrible and wrong. It is brutal beyond understanding too. And this is why you never go to War unless you are totally committed to destroy your enemy. We in the West do not commit to that anymore because we understand that totally destroying a people or a nation is wrong. This is what is supposed to make us more civilized and This is what makes this act so outre. This is the brutality of War, real War, not the crap most Americans get from a John Wayne movie. And that is why they hide it and lie about it. No one in the US really wants to see the real war, this is why Bush hid the caskets for so long. This is why they lie about friendly fire.
I have heard it said that politicians who have been in war are less likely to want one (look even at McCain before him running and after). If so, we have raised a crop that will do us proud soon.
As a foot note I will say that I am the most Hawkish Liberal that you have ever met. But I think I understand War and its costs and its consequences. We were doomed the moment we stopped looking for Bin Laden, who we never were (are) going to find anyway.
Sera
"the Mocha Messiah ... an embarrassment to Brown Bush"
Well, I am glad you got that out of your system. Not that you see color at all -
"there is nothing even approaching a free press here"
And here I thought you saw the world in sepia, not black and white.
"Remember these same parasitic, career politicians aren't part of the Social security system (not that they need it, they're all millionaires)"
And yet they pay into SS like every other Federal Employee, none of whom get to collect SS from their service....ever.
You are a walking, typing contradiction of yourself. Congrats!
Ok then. Lets not start that flame war.
... well everyone? Maybe we should make college free for everyone like k-12? Oh wait the Right wants that to die too.
... and have too little oversight of that money. I watch money pour down the drain where I work and wish we had an external entity give some oversight to it all. But even with that oversight we would not have enough money to do what needs to done.
But then how do you mesh the 'bootstrap & personal responsibility' mentality of the Right with the 'Anyone who wants to go to college should be able to' mentality of
I half agree with your sentiments about the increase of costs at colleges (and I work at one). But I will state that the driver of *that* is the 'bootstrap & personal responsibility' mentality of the Right.
We underfund education
How much is enough? That is a classical questoin when dealing with education funding. To me it is the same as asking how much rock do you need, I dunno, how high do you want this tower? Every answer is infinity. But again, how tall do you want that tower? The real answer is taller than anywhere else in the world.
Now explain this: http://www.itnews.com.au/News/221051,oracle-shuts-down-open-source-test-servers.aspx
No AT&T, you can't stop him. That is the problem, and the point of his talk.
Sera
Hate to tell you buddy, but you and good old Fred are more alike then you are unalike.
You honestly believe that they will not gather more than they convert?
TOM - OT, but I love the Kid Porno on your site.
Will squirt for cash?
Its called Reductio ad absurdum Dr Spock. You said you didn't understand why people were having a problem with it. I have taken precious seconds from my life to help you be more informed. You see, you find Interpretive Dance sensationalist. What I am trying to show you is that !!TA'DA!! So is twitter. No one thinks long and hard about sending out a tweet. And that he tweeted facts has nothing to do with it. Here is a little SAT stuff for you, maybe it will help.
Twitter:Journalism::Moneys flinging poo:Art
Another
The Death Penalty:Justice::Twitter:[you fill in here]
Bonus question: Why do I and others think it was ghoulish?
"It's a source of information. How is it that you don't see this?"
So is interpretive dance. How is it that you don't see this?
"This was more about informing your constituents what you are doing and less dancing,"
No one was up at that hour wandering twitter to see if the order to kill him had been given. This was something ghoulish.
So your 3 year old technology is just a source of information but a thousand years of storytelling using dance is silly in your eyes.
"But feel free to let your emotions run your opinion. That's always the best way to live your life."
OK, but you go first.
Good, then if you have a child killed in a car accident you won't mind being informed of it by the State Trooper Unit Police Interpretive Dance Squad.
I'm not sure I understand the sentiment that somehow the Interpretive Dance is different than the Internet media when reporting events.
Putting it on in Interpretive Dance is not like making a comic strip out of the event and joking about it. It's just another form of communication.
So is monkeys flinging poo.
Yes, but can it block button mashing when naming a website...I guess not.
"Yeah with a lifetime to look back on I really was an asshole to Mr Principal, thank you for the smack down, I am a better person for it. Here, have some more Medicare, you deserve it for all the bullshit you had to go through for me."
Like that? Is that what they are going to say? Not everyone ends up bitter and twisted.
It doesn't. I made a leap of logic from one sentence to the next. Mea Culpa.
Do you think that they know less about the 5000? I am sure they do. If there was one worth extorting for more they would go for the throat.
"I was just following orders"
The most successful creature on earth is not Man. It is the grasses. We water them, feed them, and spread their young. Any alien watching from space would say that we are slaves to wheat, corn, rye, barley, and green green grass.
Sera
The computer models are getting better at this, but man what a storm. It is a wonder though to watch a whole branch of the evolutionary tree get torn off its ancient Linean home and regrafted back to the trunk or a different branch entirely.
Sera
Well I guess we don't have to cue the "I am persecuted! I am a scientist!" then do we? Oh, you did.
My Systematics professor would say that you can only define a species after all the members are dead, and thus with the rise of Man, the greatest number of species have been created since the fall of the dinosaurs. I always enjoyed that. "We killed the Dodo!" "No, we Created the Dodo!" And that clear day is still there, we just can't see enough time. A mule can still be made, but it is sterile. Thus we can see two species that are on the brink. And I admit I would love to see if you could breed a high end Triple Crown horse with a random burro from rural Argentina. There are Sub-Species, and they make sense in context, but in reality it is it's own feild of study.
Sera
As a botanist I can tell you that your datum here is incorrect. Truth be told botany is on the cutting edge of DNA descriptors of species and sub-species (and further down the rabbit hole) mainly because no one cares if a ill fed and watered valiant corn plant dies for the cause. The software out there to describe some of this is awesome, literally like watching a swaying tree swap branches (which it is). However, we do not "believe in 'morphological species'". They are useful for drilling down yes, but the devil as always, is in the details. Sera
What an unusual metric you have there. I can think of very very few things that taste better than a milkshake. Does that make all of them taste like shit? Not hardly. Just because you don't "get it" doesn't mean that others don't as well. You cut the bullshit first.
Except of course they blindly programmed. They copied the DNA, no more no less. All that they did was prove that a DNA photocopy machine can work. Yup, we knew that years ago. We could make DNA years ago, maybe I am missing something, but I am not surprised by this at all.