but there is just too many inconsistencies in the standard, which is actually the biggest obstacle to a real implementation.
Not sure what you mean there. What inconsistencies? Nothing has prevented the likes of Adobe, BitFlash, Iviko, Access and Opera from doing excellent viewer implementations.
I'm long waiting already to have SVG in Mozilla by standard...so many things you can do with it.
Yes. Having it there will be good. And when SVG is supported natively in browsers, it can be coded inline as you like along with other XML namespaces.
Macromedia was gaining traction with selling Flash Lite players to mobile phone manufacturers. Adobe was competing by supporting an open standard, SVG with its mobile authoring tools.
Now Adobe eliminates this competitor by owning it.
"Looking back, I had more fun with the plain jane lookalikes who caught my attention because they were my kind of lighthearted kinky in the bedroom that with the look-at-me gorgeous women I've brought home from the bar only to find out that they were plain boring in bed. "
Yes, those gorgeous women sure are boring in bed. I am tired of the wasted effort pleasuring gorgeous women that I bring home from the bar. Please, let's just concentrate on the plain ones.
Look through the imported style sheet on the home page, and you'll see several uses of @media handheld {} to target certain rules for handheld devices.
Hey, that's good practise. The intent is for the one page to render appropriately for multiple device types. The web needs more implementations of this to make mobile browsing viable.
what, in the experience of the Slashdot pros, is that Holy Grail of Linuxes - - the one that does it all while also making upper management feel warm and fuzzy?"
Somewhat similarly, Sun honcho Jonathon Schwartz posts these comments about IBM's patent assignments to the OSS movement in his blog:
ps. You've got to love IBM's ability to play the community. Going through some of the patents they "donated" to the open source community a few weeks back, it looks as if they all, curiously, seem to be due for payment - and thus potential expiration - this year. Were they destined for the bit bucket (turns out IBM is among the largest patent expirers in the world, along with its largest issuer).
And some of the patents have nothing to do with open source software - my favorite in the heap is this one.
Sorry, I don't like Linux companies trying to get special favors from the government
Special favors? That's a whole other thing. Establishing a lobbying office is just one step towards getting seen and heard (as opposed to remaining unnoticed).
For a Linux company to obtain special favors would require more than an office.
Dude, your mind is closed and you are talking to the wrong target. I am not the group that you are compelled to attack mindlessly. Your debate is 100% decoupled from the content of my post.
Get a life. Start by acquiring the ability to read. You'll be less miserable then, your combativeness will subside and your grass will grow greener.
It sounds like you are saying it is a bad thing for a company to gain money...
Read the post. I didn't state what you say.
I would really like to know what you point is.
Read the post.
What are you not going to be happy until we move to a totally un-capitalistic society (i.e. socialism)?
Are you searching for a way to talk about socialism?
A majority of research money to advance technology comes from what companies take in as profit.
What is the relevance of that to my post?
So I don't sound like a total troll,
uh...
the Linux Kernel by proxy goes and helps IBM, and Red Hat to donate to these causes.
Is that the same subject as my post or have you started a new subject?
You should really check your hate at the door when replying to these articles.
er, what is this hate that you speak of?
In addition you mentioned that 50% of Office users have a pre-2003 version, it is probably higher than that, but does that mean they should just cease development on the product and stop moving it forward.
Who is proposing that?
In addition somebody has to define the schema for the files, why not Microsoft?
Microsoft has only freed up the right to use their XML schemas. This move doesn't change the way they sell Office. They still get their revenue from selling Office.
Regarding XML schemas, these are free and easy to define anyway. Anyone is free to invent an XML schema. The hard part for any vendor or industry group is getting stakeholders to use the particular XML schema that the interested party publishes.
Microsoft want customers to use Microsoft's XML schema and not somebody elses XML schema. This is part of their way to try to achieve popularization of their schemas by and amongst customers.
Microsoft customers will only be able to use Microsoft's schemas if they have Office 2003. Far more than 50% of Office users currently have a version prior to 2003.
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XSL-FO is probably a better fit than SVG.
XSL-FO is an important standard. A comparison with PDF risks exagerating the scope, reach and capabilities of PDF though, don't you think?
SVG has similar display capabilities to PDF, plus object level animation, object level scripting and event handling.
but there is just too many inconsistencies in the standard, which is actually the biggest obstacle to a real implementation.
Not sure what you mean there. What inconsistencies? Nothing has prevented the likes of Adobe, BitFlash, Iviko, Access and Opera from doing excellent viewer implementations.
I'm long waiting already to have SVG in Mozilla by standard...so many things you can do with it.
Yes. Having it there will be good. And when SVG is supported natively in browsers, it can be coded inline as you like along with other XML namespaces.
There already is an XML based WYSIWYG document format that does everything PDF does and more, the W3C's open standard, SVG.
SVG already works with all Windows programs.
Yeah no. Macromedia doesn't actually ship SVG-T to any customer or make it available for download. That statement is just their FUD.
Macromedia was gaining traction with selling Flash Lite players to mobile phone manufacturers. Adobe was competing by supporting an open standard, SVG with its mobile authoring tools.
Now Adobe eliminates this competitor by owning it.
But meanwhile, on phones, SVG is proliferating.
SVG is an open standard, XML, scriptable, event-driven UI.
Will Macrodobe support an oepn standard mobile web?
Or will it want developers to pay $xxx for tools to author content for the mobile web using formats it owns and controls?
Bad Windows problem.
My helpsvc.exe keeps growing and growing and taking up tens of megs of RAM!
Don't tell me they're going to make me get SP2 to fix it???
Yes!!!? What can I do?
These guys have the skills to be Microsoft millionaires
Skills isn't the hard part. It's the timing.
this trade off?.
"Looking back, I had more fun with the plain jane lookalikes who caught my attention because they were my kind of lighthearted kinky in the bedroom that with the look-at-me gorgeous women I've brought home from the bar only to find out that they were plain boring in bed. "
Yes, those gorgeous women sure are boring in bed. I am tired of the wasted effort pleasuring gorgeous women that I bring home from the bar. Please, let's just concentrate on the plain ones.
The $1.9B was a one-time payment.
"Nah, that's exactly right. Cos an operating system doesn't include..."
Maybe. But "Like it or not, Mr. Stallman's decision on the license is final," Moglen said.
This could take a while.
Google local looks good for people who live in Poughkeepsie New York.
We have a lot of pizza here in "Australia" but Google local doesn't seem to get it.
Unable to understand address australia. Please try another address.
Maybe it's just me and my stubborn reluctance to relocate.
From the eWeek article:
"Linus Torvalds, the creator of the Linux operating system"
Not a good start for this process...
Mod eWeek -50 Flamebait
Well, Rule 55 is the parliamentary equivalent of rebooting.
So, you could say the current status of the patent initiative is like BSOD.
But who knows what will happen next time around?
Look through the imported style sheet on the home page, and you'll see several uses of @media handheld {} to target certain rules for handheld devices.
Hey, that's good practise. The intent is for the one page to render appropriately for multiple device types. The web needs more implementations of this to make mobile browsing viable.
Schwartz says computing will become a commodity like electricity.
I am posting this now via Nokia 3650 left handed maintaing 80mph in a 40 zone, no problems.
what, in the experience of the Slashdot pros, is that Holy Grail of Linuxes - - the one that does it all while also making upper management feel warm and fuzzy?"
I don't know. My management just feels fuzzy.
Somewhat similarly, Sun honcho Jonathon Schwartz posts these comments about IBM's patent assignments to the OSS movement in his blog:
ps. You've got to love IBM's ability to play the community. Going through some of the patents they "donated" to the open source community a few weeks back, it looks as if they all, curiously, seem to be due for payment - and thus potential expiration - this year. Were they destined for the bit bucket (turns out IBM is among the largest patent expirers in the world, along with its largest issuer).
And some of the patents have nothing to do with open source software - my favorite in the heap is this one.
Sorry, I don't like Linux companies trying to get special favors from the government
Special favors? That's a whole other thing. Establishing a lobbying office is just one step towards getting seen and heard (as opposed to remaining unnoticed).
For a Linux company to obtain special favors would require more than an office.
Adopt pre-emptive strike doctrine.
The lines blur...
Take desktop search, for example.
It's been there since last century, as Jon Udell highlights in this screencast.
Dude, your mind is closed and you are talking to the wrong target. I am not the group that you are compelled to attack mindlessly. Your debate is 100% decoupled from the content of my post.
Get a life. Start by acquiring the ability to read. You'll be less miserable then, your combativeness will subside and your grass will grow greener.
It sounds like you are saying it is a bad thing for a company to gain money...
Read the post. I didn't state what you say.
I would really like to know what you point is.
Read the post.
What are you not going to be happy until we move to a totally un-capitalistic society (i.e. socialism)?
Are you searching for a way to talk about socialism?
A majority of research money to advance technology comes from what companies take in as profit.
What is the relevance of that to my post?
So I don't sound like a total troll,
uh...
the Linux Kernel by proxy goes and helps IBM, and Red Hat to donate to these causes.
Is that the same subject as my post or have you started a new subject?
You should really check your hate at the door when replying to these articles.
er, what is this hate that you speak of?
In addition you mentioned that 50% of Office users have a pre-2003 version, it is probably higher than that, but does that mean they should just cease development on the product and stop moving it forward.
Who is proposing that?
In addition somebody has to define the schema for the files, why not Microsoft?
Are you going to tell us why?
Microsoft has only freed up the right to use their XML schemas. This move doesn't change the way they sell Office. They still get their revenue from selling Office.
Regarding XML schemas, these are free and easy to define anyway. Anyone is free to invent an XML schema. The hard part for any vendor or industry group is getting stakeholders to use the particular XML schema that the interested party publishes.
Microsoft want customers to use Microsoft's XML schema and not somebody elses XML schema. This is part of their way to try to achieve popularization of their schemas by and amongst customers.
Microsoft customers will only be able to use Microsoft's schemas if they have Office 2003. Far more than 50% of Office users currently have a version prior to 2003.