I think the big mistake Sun has is that it is confusing what people mean by open source. When someone says open source they mean not only is the code fully open source but you can change it, redistribute it, and even submit patches to Sun. If you look at http://www.sun.com/software/communitysource/j2se/j ava2/download.xml you will see a few files for the Java souce code. One is simple labeled "JSCSL Source" but another is labeled "SCSL Binaries - needed to complete source build" so Java isnt fully open source. The first thing they need to do is make it so I can download just the source, with no binaries, and compile it on any OS/arch mixure I want. The second thing they need to do is change the license just a bit so that I can redistribute the source code on my own. I think most people would be fine with Sun making their own license that says you must say it isnt the offical Sun Java if you choose to redistribute it. I think right now Sun's big problem is that they dont want something stupid that you do effect Java's reputation.
heh ok Im just wondering since Im forced to use shitty win machines at school with AutoCad(Intel graphics 2.4ghz etc) while my machine at home runs a 7800 GT and an AMD X2 4400 on Linux.
This new Intel Duel Core chip is pretty fast. Im writing this on an AMD X2 4400 so im no Intel fanboy but the Intel Duel Core is right below the FX-57 and FX-60, much faster then any of the p4s or p-d's.
Maybe its because I play on Linux and most of my games have native Linux ports but not one of my games require the CD. I think thats really a thing of the past. Most people hated having to carry around all there game CDs when they wanted to play a different game. I know many people who had to buy new copies because there copies of the game got scratched to hell or lost. Many gamers will do anything for one more FPS so using the harddrive will give them that.
Well I know that many college kids now are getting the XPS. Almost every college has a deal with Dell(I know mine does) which will let you buy any laptop with a huge discount. Ive never heard of a college having a deal with Alienware though. The XPS enables them to get alot more people to buy there laptop and be happy with Dell.
I realise that but I think that the capps should be lifted after you stop using p2p or what ever you do to get capped, automatically. I was just reading about the Optimum Boost that is comming to my area. This service says it allows you to run "web and e-mail servers." After reading a little on the web about it it seems they cap web and e-mail server. These companies now seem to cap things they tell you you can do.
I download from newsgroups as well and download from HTTP and FTP servers but what annoys me is that if I download from bittorrent one or two things I perminatly capped on all ports. It seems though that they only are about p2p uploading speed because we upload all the time on FTP, games, and HTTP and are never capped.
Since your a network admin maybe you can answer my question. I am fine with my ISP throttling my p2p network traffic its when they throttle everything perminatly that it annoys the hell out of me. If you download from my ISP(optonline) they will throttle every from Bittorrent to HTTP connection, slowing everything down. This happens if I download once from any p2p software. This happened to me when I downloaded knoppix 4.0 from bittorrent and an admin came on saying that if I downloaded again I would be kicked off. Why is it that an ISP has to punish you perminatly for downloading once? Why cannt the throttling just be on the p2p stuff, not everything. I understand that your ISP has in the contract info about p2p software, mine dosnt they just classify it as running a server, how does that make sense when im basicly downing the same thing running any sort of game? As many other have pointed out my ISP adverties all the time that you can "download movies music and games faster then DSL" when infact my gf(who has DSL) now downloads faster with bittorrent.
I currently have optonline for the longest time I would use p2p software to download legal things like knoppix and game patches. About 6 months ago our internet was really slow for about a week so we called them and an admin was put on the phone. He told us that running any p2p software is considered running a server which violates there terms of use. He told us the next time we run any p2p software we will be kicked off there service with no warning. We pay for a service and the ISPs seem to only let you do what they want you to. I know many people who actually are using more bandwith since they discovered newgroups so really the ISPs are going to lose either way.
ummmm you dont need SAMBA to let Win 2k/XP print to your Linux computer. Win 2k, XP and possibly NT has support for ipp. Just goto add network printer and add an ipp printer the address will look like this http://192.168.1.100:631/printers/Deskjet replace 192.168.1.100 with your computer's IP, replace 631 if you changed the port, and replace Deskjet with your printer name, but keep the printers. I use this setup at work and when my mom's printer is out of ink she prints fine to my gentoo machine.
My old high school gave everyone a laptop and it was horrible. They locked us down so tight all we could do is browse a few sites with IE and use MS Office. Everything was blocked including windows explorer. Let the students do what ever they want with them otherwise they will find ways around and you'll spend more time fighting students and enforcing rules then doing your job.
Im a C, C++, Java, and ASM programming and I do the same thing. Each language has its own directory in my home directory in there I have many different programs ranging from a Java class that has functions doing every in/out you could ever need(for console) to a graphics engine I work on and off. Each sub directory has a name that you know what the code does just by looking at the directory. Keep a backup of all that code on another computer CD or something like that and remember to keep all that code well comented;)
I use Autocad at school(on there computers) and autocad or windows crash all the time. I would love to be able to run it on Linux and infact I think there would be very strong support for it. I looked into running it on wine/cedega once and found out it uses alot of Win only APIs and the latest versions use.NET. Its really sad to see how depended this is on Win.
I thought I remember reading awhile back AOL was experimenting with a Linux version, but then realized that more and more windows people hate AOL. Anyway if you goto aim.com right now you can download an offical AIM client for Linux.
Still Intel does have x86_64 chips, why couldn't Apple of used those? Im sure Intel is going to release a 64bit Pentium-M(or is it Intel-M now?) pretty soon.
I never understood why Apple didnt go 64bit when they made the switch to x86. It seems its just going to bring problems up down the road when Intel decided to make only 64bit chips.
Its funny how for years people have been petitioning Macromedia and now Adobe for and amd64 version of their flash player and have only weeks ago been told in a developers blog that amd64 is unofficaly planned after the flash 8.5 release for Linux x86. I am curious about Java though, I thought apple provided that in their OS.
For awhile I did some graphics programming in OpenGL with GLUT and SDL. I did all my development on Linux but I was about to sit down at a windows machine open up MS C++ 6.0 and compile it with no problem. The only reason why I brought up the Intel Mac is because some games use asm in their code.
It is really that Linux gamers offer Blizzard very little. Linux gamers generally dual boot or emulate, so they are already customers. Offering a Linux version would generally not produce a new sale, it would replace a Windows sale with a Linux sale, there is no new money to pay for development and QA costs.
Isnt that the same for the new Intel Macs? I thought all Intel Macs could run PPC apps fine(via emulation). Someone will soon port wine to Intel Mac, I woudlnt be surprised if transgaming releases cedega for Intel Mac, they could use that. Also apple has said that they are doing nothing to prevent Windows from being run on their machines so once M$ makes Windows XP work with the Macs(and im pretty sure they will quite soon) why not just tell the new Intel Mac users to dual boot with Windows?
I really not see a reason why Blizzard cannt/wont port games like WoW and WC3 to Linux. If anything is programmed right it will work fine on Linux, Mac, and Windows without much change in the code. This new version for Mac should work fine on Linux, they probably just need to recompile it.
Are you sure about that? Dell is trying to gain gamming support and many gammers want AMD. I wouldnt be surprised if Dell was putting AMD chips in their high end gaming machines as well.
They could be founding old laptops as well. Infact more and more laptops are getting bigger hard drives(60gig and 80gig). Anyway they might be looking at what the average consumer uses. I know I only have 50gigs left on my 200gig drive after about 1.5 years of use.
Skype has a version for Linux, Mac, Win, and Win CE, im sure it wouldnt be to hard to port it to the Nokia 770. The only thing holding it back is user demand.
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I think the big mistake Sun has is that it is confusing what people mean by open source. When someone says open source they mean not only is the code fully open source but you can change it, redistribute it, and even submit patches to Sun. If you look at http://www.sun.com/software/communitysource/j2se/j ava2/download.xml you will see a few files for the Java souce code. One is simple labeled "JSCSL Source" but another is labeled "SCSL Binaries - needed to complete source build" so Java isnt fully open source. The first thing they need to do is make it so I can download just the source, with no binaries, and compile it on any OS/arch mixure I want. The second thing they need to do is change the license just a bit so that I can redistribute the source code on my own. I think most people would be fine with Sun making their own license that says you must say it isnt the offical Sun Java if you choose to redistribute it. I think right now Sun's big problem is that they dont want something stupid that you do effect Java's reputation.
heh ok Im just wondering since Im forced to use shitty win machines at school with AutoCad(Intel graphics 2.4ghz etc) while my machine at home runs a 7800 GT and an AMD X2 4400 on Linux.
Most of the classes ive ever taken use Autocad, which is win only. Would you know of a good Linux replacement of Autocad(perferribly compatible to)
Ive done some simple CAD stuff in school and all they use is AutoCAD and PTC. I guess I dont know to much about this stuff :\
Why would you buy a Sun macine for CAD? Most CAD software is for Linux, Mac, or Win. Itd be cheaper to just build a box or buy a Dell.
This new Intel Duel Core chip is pretty fast. Im writing this on an AMD X2 4400 so im no Intel fanboy but the Intel Duel Core is right below the FX-57 and FX-60, much faster then any of the p4s or p-d's.
Maybe its because I play on Linux and most of my games have native Linux ports but not one of my games require the CD. I think thats really a thing of the past. Most people hated having to carry around all there game CDs when they wanted to play a different game. I know many people who had to buy new copies because there copies of the game got scratched to hell or lost. Many gamers will do anything for one more FPS so using the harddrive will give them that.
Well I know that many college kids now are getting the XPS. Almost every college has a deal with Dell(I know mine does) which will let you buy any laptop with a huge discount. Ive never heard of a college having a deal with Alienware though. The XPS enables them to get alot more people to buy there laptop and be happy with Dell.
I realise that but I think that the capps should be lifted after you stop using p2p or what ever you do to get capped, automatically. I was just reading about the Optimum Boost that is comming to my area. This service says it allows you to run "web and e-mail servers." After reading a little on the web about it it seems they cap web and e-mail server. These companies now seem to cap things they tell you you can do.
I download from newsgroups as well and download from HTTP and FTP servers but what annoys me is that if I download from bittorrent one or two things I perminatly capped on all ports. It seems though that they only are about p2p uploading speed because we upload all the time on FTP, games, and HTTP and are never capped.
Since your a network admin maybe you can answer my question. I am fine with my ISP throttling my p2p network traffic its when they throttle everything perminatly that it annoys the hell out of me. If you download from my ISP(optonline) they will throttle every from Bittorrent to HTTP connection, slowing everything down. This happens if I download once from any p2p software. This happened to me when I downloaded knoppix 4.0 from bittorrent and an admin came on saying that if I downloaded again I would be kicked off. Why is it that an ISP has to punish you perminatly for downloading once? Why cannt the throttling just be on the p2p stuff, not everything. I understand that your ISP has in the contract info about p2p software, mine dosnt they just classify it as running a server, how does that make sense when im basicly downing the same thing running any sort of game? As many other have pointed out my ISP adverties all the time that you can "download movies music and games faster then DSL" when infact my gf(who has DSL) now downloads faster with bittorrent.
I currently have optonline for the longest time I would use p2p software to download legal things like knoppix and game patches. About 6 months ago our internet was really slow for about a week so we called them and an admin was put on the phone. He told us that running any p2p software is considered running a server which violates there terms of use. He told us the next time we run any p2p software we will be kicked off there service with no warning. We pay for a service and the ISPs seem to only let you do what they want you to. I know many people who actually are using more bandwith since they discovered newgroups so really the ISPs are going to lose either way.
ummmm you dont need SAMBA to let Win 2k/XP print to your Linux computer. Win 2k, XP and possibly NT has support for ipp. Just goto add network printer and add an ipp printer the address will look like this http://192.168.1.100:631/printers/Deskjet replace 192.168.1.100 with your computer's IP, replace 631 if you changed the port, and replace Deskjet with your printer name, but keep the printers. I use this setup at work and when my mom's printer is out of ink she prints fine to my gentoo machine.
My old high school gave everyone a laptop and it was horrible. They locked us down so tight all we could do is browse a few sites with IE and use MS Office. Everything was blocked including windows explorer. Let the students do what ever they want with them otherwise they will find ways around and you'll spend more time fighting students and enforcing rules then doing your job.
Im a C, C++, Java, and ASM programming and I do the same thing. Each language has its own directory in my home directory in there I have many different programs ranging from a Java class that has functions doing every in/out you could ever need(for console) to a graphics engine I work on and off. Each sub directory has a name that you know what the code does just by looking at the directory. Keep a backup of all that code on another computer CD or something like that and remember to keep all that code well comented ;)
I use Autocad at school(on there computers) and autocad or windows crash all the time. I would love to be able to run it on Linux and infact I think there would be very strong support for it. I looked into running it on wine/cedega once and found out it uses alot of Win only APIs and the latest versions use .NET. Its really sad to see how depended this is on Win.
I thought I remember reading awhile back AOL was experimenting with a Linux version, but then realized that more and more windows people hate AOL. Anyway if you goto aim.com right now you can download an offical AIM client for Linux.
Still Intel does have x86_64 chips, why couldn't Apple of used those? Im sure Intel is going to release a 64bit Pentium-M(or is it Intel-M now?) pretty soon.
I never understood why Apple didnt go 64bit when they made the switch to x86. It seems its just going to bring problems up down the road when Intel decided to make only 64bit chips.
Its funny how for years people have been petitioning Macromedia and now Adobe for and amd64 version of their flash player and have only weeks ago been told in a developers blog that amd64 is unofficaly planned after the flash 8.5 release for Linux x86. I am curious about Java though, I thought apple provided that in their OS.
For awhile I did some graphics programming in OpenGL with GLUT and SDL. I did all my development on Linux but I was about to sit down at a windows machine open up MS C++ 6.0 and compile it with no problem. The only reason why I brought up the Intel Mac is because some games use asm in their code. It is really that Linux gamers offer Blizzard very little. Linux gamers generally dual boot or emulate, so they are already customers. Offering a Linux version would generally not produce a new sale, it would replace a Windows sale with a Linux sale, there is no new money to pay for development and QA costs. Isnt that the same for the new Intel Macs? I thought all Intel Macs could run PPC apps fine(via emulation). Someone will soon port wine to Intel Mac, I woudlnt be surprised if transgaming releases cedega for Intel Mac, they could use that. Also apple has said that they are doing nothing to prevent Windows from being run on their machines so once M$ makes Windows XP work with the Macs(and im pretty sure they will quite soon) why not just tell the new Intel Mac users to dual boot with Windows?
I really not see a reason why Blizzard cannt/wont port games like WoW and WC3 to Linux. If anything is programmed right it will work fine on Linux, Mac, and Windows without much change in the code. This new version for Mac should work fine on Linux, they probably just need to recompile it.
Are you sure about that? Dell is trying to gain gamming support and many gammers want AMD. I wouldnt be surprised if Dell was putting AMD chips in their high end gaming machines as well.
They could be founding old laptops as well. Infact more and more laptops are getting bigger hard drives(60gig and 80gig). Anyway they might be looking at what the average consumer uses. I know I only have 50gigs left on my 200gig drive after about 1.5 years of use.
Skype has a version for Linux, Mac, Win, and Win CE, im sure it wouldnt be to hard to port it to the Nokia 770. The only thing holding it back is user demand.