That's pretty much what I thought. Your technical solution is coherent, well-thought-out, clear, planned very well, and exactly not what original poster requested. I'm sure it's because you believe (and I agree) that what original poster requested is neither feasible nor practical.
So, in short, other than your excellent but basically off-topic suggestion, your answer is "no."
You can make MONDO money if you make the wires color coded, but in an obscure and almost-impossible-to-distinguish fashion, so that people who try to make their own terminations FAIL repeatedly and have to hire YOU to do it. That's definitely the ??? step right before sweet, sweet Profit!!!
We have that too. There, the lag becomes UI interaction lag, much finer-grained and subtle, unless it wedges completely.
It's the difference between a sprained ankle, which once taped only hurts once in a while but hurts a lot, and a toothache, which is a dull agony all the time.
I guess I'm optimistic enough to hope that I won't tweak my ankle, so I keep trying to use direct SMB rather than Citrix.
There's a mild irony here. The one profession great concern for canon misspelled it (unless he meant to speak of large-bore projectile weapons), and the one professing unconcern for canon spelled, and used, it perfectly.
My inner pedant is smiling a smug satisfied smile.
I was just a wee kid when this ran on TV the first time. I wondered why my dad took a double-take at the TV when McCoy said that. (He didn't swear, at least not audibly in my presence, so my ears were pretty naive.)
The first time I heard that line as a teenager (ah, Saturday afternoon syndication FTW), I did the double-take and ROFL'd a bit. Yeah, not explicit, but there was definitely some "adult situations" large and small in that show. They got away with a fair bit for late 60's prime-time broadcast TV. I think they made a point of trying to get away with a fair bit. Hack censorship!
Hm.... As in, "take all the hard drives out of current machines while preserving their contents someplace, install those drives in a new iSCSI NAS box, build a mondo-RAID out of those disparate hard drives, building zones for each machine's boot volume use, restore the clients' disk images into their individual zones, reconfiguring the clients to PXE boot"?
I'm pretty sure new hardware wasn't in GP's wish list. Hence, the iSCSI NAS box isn't happening. What's your plan B?
I'd be curious if anyone could actually address GP's original requirements, which is a distributed filesystem using spare capacity on existing client systems' current directly-attached JBOD disks.
Oh, but it's not an I/O fault, it's a pending I/O. Pending for tens of seconds at a time, sometimes minutes. If the network layer times out enough, at least you just get a corrupt document, but at least you get "control" of your machine back.
What version of Windows past Win98 or MacOS 8 would 'freeze' due to a "network brownout"?
Windows XP, filesystem browsing ("Computer Explorer") remote CIFS/SMB shares. Jitter, share, complete application freezeout*. Not hypothetical; I live it every day at a job where most of the documents I work on are hosted 1,000 miles away. (MS Word is a complete pig about temp files over the same remote link, too; that's another example of "jitter and freeze".)
*Yes. The kernel doesn't freeze. But it seems that large portions of the I/O complex does. Applications using the network mount definitely freeze. The desktop shell definitely does freeze. Since the "Start" button is tied to that same desktop shell, that means you can't start any other applications either. However, applications already running and not doing filesystem I/O are not frozen, I suppose. That means that I should keep Minesweeper running in the background to have something to do when most of the useful parts of the system are wedged solid.
Better yet, it's usually structured as slander with a built in escape clause:
"Would you vote for Joe Candidate if it turned out he was hiding a secret cocaine addiction, paid for by ongoing embezzlement at his current job and a flourishing side business in white slavery?"
When the inevitable crapstorm starts, push poller can say "Hey, I never said he did blow and pimped whores, I was just asking a hypothetical!"
Well, there are many perspectives on this. Yours advocates what I've always called "pragmatic", which boils down to (using your words) "path of least resistance" while accomplishing the desired affect. In many arenas, I'm like that too.
Others want the iPod (why? I dunno. It's spiffy and has neato features, and don't underestimate the power of "cool" and technofetishism.) But they don't want to be locked into iTunes. So, they find ways to overcome Apple's artificial monopoly-enforcement tool. I admire the tenacity, and wish them the best.
Me? I don't buy Apple stuff, not merely to avoid their lock-in traps, but as an actual statement. They get no money from me as long as they continue to use the courts and their own internal censorship systems (thread suppression on Apple fora) as their way of enforcing their vision of the world on their customers. Respect first sale and the customer's inherent right of use, and we can do business, Apple.
But that's just me.
Besides, I'm so old and crusty that I don't even bother with those new-fangled digital audio doohickeys. Now get offa my lawn!
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That's pretty much what I thought. Your technical solution is coherent, well-thought-out, clear, planned very well, and exactly not what original poster requested. I'm sure it's because you believe (and I agree) that what original poster requested is neither feasible nor practical.
So, in short, other than your excellent but basically off-topic suggestion, your answer is "no."
Nanoscale Inanimate Carbon Rod!
You can make MONDO money if you make the wires color coded, but in an obscure and almost-impossible-to-distinguish fashion, so that people who try to make their own terminations FAIL repeatedly and have to hire YOU to do it. That's definitely the ??? step right before sweet, sweet Profit!!!
Sweet, I see it!
That stupid differential equations class I took decade ago finally pays off!
or a species does not "want" to evolve.
Oh, I can think of at least two species who want, very badly, to evolve. At least to the point of not staring and begging for cheezburgers or hotdogz.
We have that too. There, the lag becomes UI interaction lag, much finer-grained and subtle, unless it wedges completely.
It's the difference between a sprained ankle, which once taped only hurts once in a while but hurts a lot, and a toothache, which is a dull agony all the time.
I guess I'm optimistic enough to hope that I won't tweak my ankle, so I keep trying to use direct SMB rather than Citrix.
And here I am with no mod points.
Mods, this is +1 Insightful as well as +1 Funny. Please vote appropriately.
Now my inner pedant is scowling bitterly at my epic fail at word usage: s/profession/professing/
Damn. Now I have to find a way to make my inner pedant smile again.
Ah, Ming the Merciless, Emperor of Planet Mongo, and all that. Hmmm... TOS as Flash Gordon. So much for " Wagon Train to the stars"...
There's a mild irony here. The one profession great concern for canon misspelled it (unless he meant to speak of large-bore projectile weapons), and the one professing unconcern for canon spelled, and used, it perfectly.
My inner pedant is smiling a smug satisfied smile.
And tenement halls.
Not the sounds of silence, more like the sound of Klingon opera.
I must confess disappointment it took this long for this thread to gain a Memory Alpha link.
Well, at least it's not Uwe Boll. We can be grateful for that.
It just wasn't explicit.
"Are you out of your Vulcan mind?"
I was just a wee kid when this ran on TV the first time. I wondered why my dad took a double-take at the TV when McCoy said that. (He didn't swear, at least not audibly in my presence, so my ears were pretty naive.)
The first time I heard that line as a teenager (ah, Saturday afternoon syndication FTW), I did the double-take and ROFL'd a bit. Yeah, not explicit, but there was definitely some "adult situations" large and small in that show. They got away with a fair bit for late 60's prime-time broadcast TV. I think they made a point of trying to get away with a fair bit. Hack censorship!
Hm.... As in, "take all the hard drives out of current machines while preserving their contents someplace, install those drives in a new iSCSI NAS box, build a mondo-RAID out of those disparate hard drives, building zones for each machine's boot volume use, restore the clients' disk images into their individual zones, reconfiguring the clients to PXE boot"?
I'm pretty sure new hardware wasn't in GP's wish list. Hence, the iSCSI NAS box isn't happening. What's your plan B?
I'd be curious if anyone could actually address GP's original requirements, which is a distributed filesystem using spare capacity on existing client systems' current directly-attached JBOD disks.
tlhap yIn!
(per http://www.mrklingon.org/ ; java applet warning!)
Our groundbreaking software can detect the presence of SHORTHAND* and allow law-enforcement decryption of this nefarious data-hiding technology!
*Currently can detect Gregg, Pitman, Teeline, and Speedwriting. Also detects the presence of steno pads and stenotype machines.
Oh, but it's not an I/O fault, it's a pending I/O. Pending for tens of seconds at a time, sometimes minutes. If the network layer times out enough, at least you just get a corrupt document, but at least you get "control" of your machine back.
What version of Windows past Win98 or MacOS 8 would 'freeze' due to a "network brownout"?
Windows XP, filesystem browsing ("Computer Explorer") remote CIFS/SMB shares. Jitter, share, complete application freezeout*. Not hypothetical; I live it every day at a job where most of the documents I work on are hosted 1,000 miles away. (MS Word is a complete pig about temp files over the same remote link, too; that's another example of "jitter and freeze".)
*Yes. The kernel doesn't freeze. But it seems that large portions of the I/O complex does. Applications using the network mount definitely freeze. The desktop shell definitely does freeze. Since the "Start" button is tied to that same desktop shell, that means you can't start any other applications either. However, applications already running and not doing filesystem I/O are not frozen, I suppose. That means that I should keep Minesweeper running in the background to have something to do when most of the useful parts of the system are wedged solid.
"We were able to shave 400 milliseconds off the shutdown time
BRILLIANT!
That will easily save me.... let's see... um... (google math)... 7.2 seconds in the coming year! YES! Time enough for sex!
Prior art alert! Honduras was the first banana republic, ca 1910.
it would also mean a sports replay that would last well into next year
Well, finally, a technical justification for how long sideline "instant" replay reviews seem to take.
kill Javascript.
And while you're at it, deep-six the rest of that Web 2.0 crap.
Just not on my lawn, you crazy kids!
Well, "BOFH" is "Bastard Operator From Hell".
By simple symmetry, I'd guess that "BOTH" stands for "Bastard Operator To Hell" and represents the sysadmin's commute home.
H2H.
Better yet, it's usually structured as slander with a built in escape clause:
"Would you vote for Joe Candidate if it turned out he was hiding a secret cocaine addiction, paid for by ongoing embezzlement at his current job and a flourishing side business in white slavery?"
When the inevitable crapstorm starts, push poller can say "Hey, I never said he did blow and pimped whores, I was just asking a hypothetical!"
Well, there are many perspectives on this. Yours advocates what I've always called "pragmatic", which boils down to (using your words) "path of least resistance" while accomplishing the desired affect. In many arenas, I'm like that too.
Others want the iPod (why? I dunno. It's spiffy and has neato features, and don't underestimate the power of "cool" and technofetishism.) But they don't want to be locked into iTunes. So, they find ways to overcome Apple's artificial monopoly-enforcement tool. I admire the tenacity, and wish them the best.
Me? I don't buy Apple stuff, not merely to avoid their lock-in traps, but as an actual statement. They get no money from me as long as they continue to use the courts and their own internal censorship systems (thread suppression on Apple fora) as their way of enforcing their vision of the world on their customers. Respect first sale and the customer's inherent right of use, and we can do business, Apple.
But that's just me.
Besides, I'm so old and crusty that I don't even bother with those new-fangled digital audio doohickeys. Now get offa my lawn!