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Klingons Cut From Final Star Trek XI Movie
darthcamaro writes "Classic era trek was all about Kirk kicking the Klingons' tails. But the new Star Trek XI movie, the reboot, will not have any spoken Klingon in it — a travesty that has some fan sites up in arms already. 'We actually had a sequence that ended up getting cut from the movie that took place on Rura Penthe, in a Klingon prison,' Star Trek co-writer Alex Kurtzman said, explaining the deletion. 'And there was definitely Klingon spoken in the movie, and it ended up getting cut.' Frakkin' Federation ..."
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Oh dear God.
The original Trek only rarely dealt with the Klingons. It was more about the crew exploring the unknown.
This is just a fanboi snit.
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As long as they don't replace the Klingons Gungans with Jamaican accents, we're cool! ;-)
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Seems like a non-story to me. Wrath of Khan didn't have any spoken Klingon either (closest was Khan claiming the Klingon proverb: Revenge is a dish best served cold.... It is very cold, in spaaaaaaaaaaace.) I don't seriously think anyone missed it there, and while I know little of the plot of this film (intentionally, so no -- I don't want a summary) if the story doesn't really involve Klingons, no need to toss them in just to have them.
Abrams sucks. This Trek will suck. I don't care about the Klingons, but from the ads I've seen, Abrams has worked his usual turdomancy on the franchise, turning a Sci-Fi gem into a steaming pile of Blockbuster Action Flick.
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Saw an advance viewing. Didn't come out of it thinking omg no Klingon.
Fanboys bitching about the lack of Star Trek, so they produced a movie and the first thing they do is Bitch about it.
Argh - can't believe I just wrote that.
Ok, what's the translation of "Frakkin' Federation" from Klingon to English?
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Funny how all of the swearing is following the BSG meme then. Frakking? Really? I would expect no less than a double dumbass on you!
In fact, I do believe that one of the Klingons in the TOS was actually John Colicos. He spoke Melodrama, not Klingon.
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Just wait for the sequel, it will be all about the Klingons.
Nice marketing strategy there.
It's left blank because I have nothing to say to you punks!
I heard Tom Bombadil isn't even in this one!
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Everybody complained that Spider-Man 3 tried to cram too many different characters and plots together. Chill out! This is but the first in a new series of films. There will be plenty of time for Klingons.
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We actually had a sequence that ended up getting cut from the movie that took place on Rura Penthe, in a Klingon prison,
So, how do you say "Bend over, you're my bitch now!" in Klingon, anyway? Did they abandon this scene because it was too much like This Ain't Star Trek XXX, and they were afraid they would get sued?
I've abandoned my search for truth; now I'm just looking for some useful delusions.
Apparently they had difficulty making the deletion at first, but were successful with a 2nd wipe.....
that 13 year old boy they've got to play kirk got scared when they spoke klingon.
I'm sorry I'm not watching a bunch of pre-pubescent twerps run around a starship, its as ludicrous as putting the Olsen Twins in charge of the USS Nimitz.
whats with turning all these shows into showcases for poorly acting teenagers? whats next? x-men babies?
Here I've always found wookies to be way more annoying vocally than gungans.
If you really, really, wanted to piss somebody off, they should remake the Edith Keeler episode as a feature film, but change it in some way as to really just make Harlan Ellison flip out. Have his "great work" get butchered by TWO generations of film-makers, now that would be priceless.
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No Klingons. Less space than TNG. Lame.
(minor spoilers)
I'm not a super Trekkie or anything, but I did see the movie this week, and I'm glad there's no Klingon. Hell, not only is there no Klingon speech, I didn't see a single Klingon at all. Who cares? The humans are the good guys, and they need bad guys. Since this is a fresh start, why re-hash the exact same enemies they already had in, what, 6 previous movies (just a guess, again, not a Trekkie)? I always thought the Klingons were just grumpy humanoids anyway. And AFAIK, they're been friends for nearly every TV series, so I'm not exactly fearful of their characters. Eric Bana as a really pissed off Romulan? That worked.
If there are Klingons in Star Trek XI who speak to each other and don't use Klingon, that's stupid. If there are no Klingons in Star Trek XI, then complaining about the lack of spoken Klingon is stupid.
This is officially the last Star Trek XI story I am reading until May 9.
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All the klingons have been replaced with walkie-talkies!!!!
And photon torpedoes have been replaced by quantum-Nerf!
Stay in a galaxy far far away from this movie.
something for the deluxe box set in two years. How else are they going to get us to download it a second time?
Um...which fans are up in arms? The linked article isn't exactly screaming like hardcore Trekkies, nor does it link or quote fans who are "up in arms". In fact, no one really seems to care much.
Klingons are stupid, the language is stupid, their weapons are stupid, their mating habits are stupid. I never understood people getting all fascinated with that shit.
You're never going to believe this, but...
*SPOILER ALERT*
there aren't any BORG in the movie, either!
OMG!
If they put modern (TNG and later) Klingons in the movie, Trekkies would say "WTF! Everyone knows Klingons in the time didn't look like that". OTOH, if they used TOS Klingons, everyone would say "WTF! Everyone knows the TOS Klingons were just humans who need more prune juice".
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No kidding. Chewbacca always struck me as very dog-like with his speech. He was practically incapable of whispering, and it looked like it caused him great physical discomfort to hold his tongue. I'm sure he was a good friend to have in a pinch, but sometimes you don't need your friends gargling every half-formed thought that flashes through their brains.
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This movie is shaping up to be, to quote Shakespeare: "...a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing."
because NOBODY f**ks with Data.
CHEWIE, get that hydrospanner out of your ass, and give the droid back his lube!
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What the hell are Romulans doing in this movie anyway? The first time anyone in the Federation ever saw a Romulan was after this movie is set (Balance of Terror).
"Classic era trek was all about Kirk kicking the Klingons tails."
Classic era Trek was all about Kirk kicking EVERYONE's butts.
(And getting the hot green chicks!)
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I know I'll be modded down for mentioning this: Why are the Klingons the only species in the whole movie series that the "Universal Translator" didn't automatically translate to both the audience and the characters while not in private conversation at home planet (i.e. TMP's Spock's failture scene)?
It should be all or nothing. Romulans should speak Romulan, Vulcans speak Vulcan (unless speaking Starfleet English) due to the technomagical universal translator.
J.J. Abrams was on TV just last night talking about he wasn't a real trekie, and that this movie was aimed at a broader audience (Hollywood talk for "everyone should buy a ticket for my movie and the trekies should buy several") . But from what little I've seen of the previews, this retelling isn't true to the Trek history.
McCoy was a beloved character in the show and movies. But as anyone who watched the original shows in the 60's (even those of us who don't consider ourselves trekies, don't go to conventions, have never made a starfleet uniform or a tricorder, and who don't live in our parent's basements), he wasn't the original ship's doctor and didn't come on board when Kirk did. There were two other ship's doctors in "Where no man has gone before" (not to mention the earlier failed pilot that was later incorporated into the trek history as a back story). To retell things with McCoy joining with Kirk as he takes command of the ship is just pandering as far as I'm concerned, handy to let the film focus on a bunch of backstory for these characters, and lets just ignore established "facts". After all, it's just a movie. We'll play off the fan loyalty and immense popularity of the franchise where it suits us, but we can ignore it when it get in the way of the film we want to make.
Yes, I know the file will be a huge hit. That was a given before the first scene was ever filmed or the first characters were cast. But I think it's a shame that Abrams decided just to throw something together based on the Trek franchise, film it in a spectacular way and profit, ignoring the existing trek history when it got in his way.
And in some ways I think that imposing the Trek franchise on his film making may have been a major mistake. I really think he could have done better if he didn't go for the quick and big bucks that the Trek franchise promises but rather had made something original in the Science-fiction area. In truth he's quite a talented film-maker, and he could have made something truly unique rather than just number 11 in a series. The original Starwars (despite what it has become) was a great movie, and one of the main reasons for that is that Lucas was free to tell an original story (even with all of the cliche's). Imagine how much less of a movie it would have been in the 70's if George Lucas had decided, or been told, that in order to make a science fiction movie and get it onto the big screen he could do all of the great special effects he envisioned and he could pretty much do the same story, but the main character had to be either Flash Gordon or Buck Rodgers, because they were established and no one wanted to risk a big movie on a new story.
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Yeah, but Gungans don't pull people's arms out of their sockets when they lose. Wookiees are known to do that.
"But this one goes to 11!"
Sadly, many people would.
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I heard that they were some PHB at NBC's idea, and that they were dispensed with when possible later. ...
I almost need a new sig. Comments like that are Quantum for me. They are either true or false, and I won't know since I don't have the time to look it up in detail.
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We now wait for the sequel to the prequel. They have us by the short 'n curlies... And are not letting go.
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No kidding. Chewbacca always struck me as very dog-like with his speech.
Gee, very strange for a being who's very name is a mixture of words for man (chelovek) and dog(sobaka). Its not a coincidence that in Spaceballs the character was "Mog". (half-man, half dog)
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...won't even read this post because they'll start a fight over whether or not they should be called Trekkies or Trekkers. Then they'll argue about how canon this is, even with time travel given Enterprise and what they did with time travel, and whether or not Enterprise should be canon, even though it was by definition, a canon Star Trek show.
In reality, everyone needs to realize that this will only vaguely look like any Star Trek you know. They hired a guy who wasn't a Trek fan, and asked him to remake Trek in a very different image. Correlations to past Trek incarnations should be kept to a minimum. Frankly, a whole lot of past-Trek sucked. It was the face of sci fi in American pop culture for many, but a whole lot of it did suck. This is what we have. It might very well make more money than all of the TNG-crew movies combined. Brian Fuller is already talking about a Trek TV show in Abram-verse. And you know what, I'm fine with that. Despite the 90210-looking captain, I have faith in Abrams to make an entertaining movie, and spin-off an entertaining TV show. That is far better than anything Trek has done as of late.
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What's a Klingon?
There was a pre-showing here in Iceland that I attended and I can attest that this movie is great. I was expecting it to suck or at least to be so-so. I especially liked the witty dialog :)
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The movie will still have Kirk acting like a loose cannon, a rebel, exploring the galaxy on his own time, in his own place, doing his own thing, with any female that crosses his path...
sounds like they got the movie just right to me. /shrug
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There will also be lens flares. Lots and lots of lens flares.
On the bridge, in dark bars or in closed shuttles with dimmed light source.
And if you thought that was annoying - wait until you watch it in a movie theater.
Your eyes will just LOVE those short flashes of extra bright white light.
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I would not suggest that, if another Trek movie has to be made, that McCoy be left out. Just that a different story be told, one that doesn't have to play fast and loose with the established story history. Why even bother to base the story on the Trek franchise if you don't keep with the established story line? Quite frankly I don't need to see a movie that spends a significant part of the time to establish needless back stories for the characters.
From other postings here it seems Abrams also made the villain a Romulan, ignoring that no one in the Federation ever saw a Romulan until well after the Stardate of this movie. By why? Was there really any need to label this character a Romulan? Couldn't Abrams have created some other race for him to be? Seems like just another case of the film maker wanting to get the benefits of the franchise but not be bothered by the pesky details of the story history.
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"Klingons Cut From Final Star Trek XI Movie"
"the new Star Trek XI movie, the reboot, will not have any spoken Klingon in it"
Well, which is it? No klingons at all in the movie as the story title indicates? Or will there be klingons that speak english in the movie as the summary implies? Huge difference. Huge.
The headline would have you believe that the wrinkly-headed (in certain series) nemeses never appear in the movie. In fact, the wrinkly-headed nemeses appear but do not speak their token language. Which is a big "so what", the language didn't appear in TOS anyway.
Chewbacca always struck me as very dog-like with his speech. He was practically incapable of whispering, and it looked like it caused him great physical discomfort to hold his tongue. I'm sure he was a good friend to have in a pinch, but sometimes you don't need your friends gargling every half-formed thought that flashes through their brains.
Han Solo: This is ridiculous. Even if I could take off, I'd never get past the tractor beam.
Ben Kenobi: Leave that to me.
Han Solo: Damn fool, I knew you were going to say that.
Obi-Wan: Who's the more foolish: the fool, or the fool who follows him?
Chewbacca: [subtitled] I know you are but what am I?
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Why up in arms!? Jeesh its a movie, and it couldn't put in all material and stay within a reasonable timeframe... Besides this is what gets added to the "special edition" blu-ray/dvd later when they are released so we're eventually gonna see it.. Other than that.. I'm not that much of a fanatic to waste my time bitching its not there
So...what about man-bear-pig?
Chewbacca always struck me as very dog-like with his speech.
That's not coincidental. Chewie's sounds are based on the unusual sounds made by the Alaskan Malamute. Lucas had owned one before writing the script for Star Wars and wanted Chewie to sound like that.
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Yeah, but Gungans don't pull people's arms out of their sockets when they lose. Wookiees are known to do that.
That, in a nutshell, is my very favourite thing about Lego Star Wars II.
Thick-headed, warmongering people are SOOOO last year.
Not if Hurley gets his script accepted in the weeks to come.
I really didn't miss the Klingons.
It had tons of fan service and rocked the world of all of my friends who got to see it with me, so just mellow out.
Although I did like a certain scene where Ambassador Spock realizes his traditional greeting wasn't the best choice at the time.
A very good restart.
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You think wookies are annoying? You must have loved the Star Wars Holiday Special
A Romulan from the TNG/DS9/VOY era goes back in time to kill Kirk and blows up the ship Kirk's father is on. His attack becomes the Federation's first encounter with the Romulans and radically changes history.
TNG Era Spock goes back in time and tries to set things back on course.
seriously? man-dog? I always thought it was an oddly weak name that was a riff on "Chew" & "Tobacco" At least the original french translators thought so since his name is "Chictabac," literally "ChewTobacco"
He looks more like the missing link or Bigfoot than he does a dog...
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What's all of this 'reboot' shite?
Do I need a kernel upgrade to watch this? Re-compile, or 'emerge'?
Log-out, log-in? make && make install?
'Kill -9' my brain, then start it back up?
WTF?
You marketdroids and your inane, warped, and twisted lexicon are getting to be too much.
Where's the 'synergy'?, the 'leveraging', and shouldn't this be 'value-added' or 'feature-rich'?
You don't 'reboot' a movie, only the computer it was running on.
Fscking kids, can't see any 'generational accomplishments' except to rename everything...'What Would John Wayne Do?'...*makes bumper sticker:WWJDD?'*... *mumble*
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Apparently George Lucas based the way Chewbacca talks on the sounds his Alaskan Malamute made
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malamute#Temperament>(linky)
I work with a guy who has a Malamute, and he says his dog makes the craziest noises, he swears its trying to talk to him.
"Classic era trek was all about Kirk kicking the Klingons' tails."
Apparently you've never watched the original TV series. If you count
the episodes, the Klingons appear a minority of the time.
Not for nerds. For the people nerds call nerds maybe. Regardless, it's certainly not stuff that matters.
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. . . if a Klingon ever got the chance, he'd edit you and everyone you care about!
No kidding. Chewbacca always struck me as very dog-like with his speech. He was practically incapable of whispering, and it looked like it caused him great physical discomfort to hold his tongue. I'm sure he was a good friend to have in a pinch, but sometimes you don't need your friends gargling every half-formed thought that flashes through their brains.
You just described all my co-workers !?!
Oh yeah? Well, go fuck yourself too, Mr Dvorak.
He was his own best friend.
Seriously, LOL.
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