The Americans are having an election, in most countries this means you quietly cast a vote, in the US there's nothing quiet about it and only half of them cast a ballot.
Give up, your troll leaders had a senate inquisition, even they couldn't burn him. Here's the testimony submitted by the National Academies. Note the NAS were asked by the senatorial trolls to verify the statistics, (a subject you and they seem to have a poor grasp on). Note NAS did find some minor problems with the strength of Mann's claims but did not find anything to refute the claims. Note that Mann addressed those CONSTRUCTIVE criticisms in a subsequent paper published by NAS in the journal Science.
Attacking the science does not work for trolls, at the end of the day you are just plain wrong. However the attacks strengthen the science and swell the ranks of your opposition. In the late 90's when I started posting about this stuff on slashdot, I was consistently attacked and down modded, most of my attackers have now realized (as I did about 15yrs ago) that they were being lied to for political reasons and have quietly swapped to the rational side. I'm certainly no climate scientists but I have been following the subject since reading a book about it in 1980, being a young 20yo geek at the time it took me at least 10yrs before I realized some people were being paid to be dumb.
Assassinating the character of individual scientists is also the hallmark of AGW trolls and FF shills, it's basically all you guys have left as an argument. Your noise is just making more people aware of that fact, the last thing you want is an informed electorate and yet your once respected front men are being openly mocked. So go ahead and troll, spew your unoriginal lies all over the place, they are easily refutable by an 8yo and as such will encourage rational people to turn their back on you. So thanks to all the trolls "teaching the controversy" most people now know how to easily debunk the controversy, and a lot of those people are about to get angry, just like they did when they caught your mob lying for the tobacco industry.
Look at contractors (plumbers, HVAC repair, etc.); they make really good money without any real education and without having to do any math.
Plumbers make good money because they are educated in plumbing, you think there is nothing to it because you are not educated in plumbing. Here in Oz it takes 4yrs to become a plumber and you must constantly keep your 'tickets' (qualification for doing job X) up to date. It took me 3yrs to get a degree in computer science 20yrs ago and there are no 'tickets' to maintain.
You were trained to speak english by your parents, does that make you a circus animal? Do you comprehend the noises you make? Actually don't answer that, I have no way of knowing if your answer is just another trained response.that comkes from being taught that humans have "special" abilities that are not found elsewhere in the natural world.
There's more to it than just chemical bonds, it has a lot to do with how the internal structure distributes the energy from an impact. Concrete without reenforcing is brittle, a surprisingly short length supported at each end will snap under its own weight. Wood is fibrous, it's much easier to split in one direction than the other, the fibers give wood a much greater ability to deform than concrete. Notice that none of the strongman stunts use plywood, cross-laminated timber doesn't split easily in any direction, structurally it's much stronger than either non-reenforced concrete or ordinary timber.
Your entitled to your opinion, I myself have lived in Melbourne for 50yrs. In 1969 our road toll was over 1000/yr, now with well over 10X the number of cars the toll hovers around 300-400/yr. The state government and the cops have put in a 30yr effort to keep the roads safe; speed cameras, booze buses, seat belts, unmarked cars, we invented the "shock" road saftey ads. The state is recognized internationally for its experiences and our methods have been widely copied by others. I think the occasional fine for a trivial infraction every now and then is a small price to pay for such a spectacular improvement, think of it as "insurance".
What is it they govern? Cops enforce the law they don't create it, sure they are instituted and funded by government, but that doesn't make them the government. Do people really believe every cop agrees with every law they are asked to enforce?
Yeah, no real harm done if the asprin is for your headache, not so fine if the asprin is for your heart problem, or the antibiotic is for an eye/lung infection, or your surgeon discovers the saline is in fact tap water after cutting you open. Knowingly defrauding the frail and the sick is the act of a morally bankrupt arsehole, placebo effect or otherwise. - rhetoric answer.
I watched a doco a while back about some people from doctors without borders and others who were talking about fake medicine, apparently it's quite a problem in Africa, they have fake generics as well as fake brands, and by fake I mean no active ingredient. Even fake saline solution for hospitals is a problem, it had became so troublesome for visiting surgeons on this documentary that they were bringing their own saline with them. As much as I resent a huge bureaucracy around medicine, all the alternatives I've seen are much worse.
They are meant to indoctrinate social order. "Nurturing nascent genius" would be in direct conflict with this goal.
Are you saying social disorder is the intelligent choice?
I'm not a genius, so maybe I'm just confused about your radical concepts, but I put it to you that you are young and socially powerless, the disorder you seek is ultimately all about getting yourself off the bottom of the social ladder. You want to be a 'real adult', you've had enough of the alpha monkeys throwing turds while you sit there and take it, now you want to fling a few back at them. My advise is concentrate on dodging the really big turds and get on with doing what you enjoy. Myself and the rest of the "boomer generation" will be dead soon enough, your generation (or maybe your parent's generation) will sprout silver hairs and will inherit the Earth. I seriously doubt the turds will stop flying when your parents generation are gone. However I do 'know' that if you take take every turd personally for the next 10-20yrs under the mistaken belief that freedom is something external to the mind, or that success is defined by society rather than arbitrarily acknowledged by it, then there's a very good chance you will die how you lived, blaming your self inflicted misery on others.
People can control your emotions only as much as you allow them to. Don't give them that power!
Thanks for posting something intelligent. Post after post from self proclaimed geniuses who couldn't work out how to amuse themselves at school were starting to bore me. And yeah, everyone is forced into a situations where they are powerless to one degree or another, working through that takes more than intelligence, it takes 'character'. Newton is recognized as one of the greatest polymaths of all time, but I've read two biographies on the guy and (unlike Eisenstein, Feynman, Sagan,...) his social skills were as sharp as Sheldon's.
At the end of the day intelligence is contextual, a genius in the lab is very different to a genius in the boxing ring. Muhammad Ali, Voltaire, Sun Tsu, Mozart - all geniuses, the only thing they have in common is they extend their chosen art, rather than just practiced it to the best of their ability. However being a genius in one context often comes at the cost of being a complete moron when the context changes, eg: from a warm basement full of wizz-kid toys to a cold class room full of other children.
...in North America, S America, in particular Brazil have cars that can run on anything from 0-100% ethanol and it's been that way since the 1970's oil crisis. N. America will move toward hydrogen fuel cells to power cars like the volt, the captains of industry want it that way and have planned for it to be that way since the mid 1990. Few people want planet wide ethanol because of the land use problems it would create, even now there are big problems in Indonesia because palm oil plantations are mowing down the rain forest at an alarming rate.
Oddly enough the push for Indonesia to be the "palm oil capital of the world" was triggered a few years back when the US and EU in what I think was a genuine attempt to be "green" offered subsides for ethanol producers. In the US it was basically pork for corn farmers, the EU were happy to import it from the Indonesians and others.
What humanity needs, is a serious fact based investigation into energy production in the same way it did in recent history with both the LHC and IPCC. It's really is hard to think of another industry with more economic and political clout than the Fossil Fuel industry. Our lives literally depend on it, and yet like smoking it will clearly kill us in the long run. Being a bit of a geek it took me quite some time to figure it out, but I have now come to the conclusion that pollution is a human problem, not a technical one. I know how a hydrogen fuel cell works, but humans?
If the US didn't have that kind of muscle why would NATO ask in the first place? Personally I think it was good diplomacy for the US to show it's capable team sports without always being captain and umpire.
Get a life, the magazine has done a GoodThing(TM). Timmothy can call it a 'fart in a bottle' for all I care, it's their deed that counts not Tim's talent for eyeball grabbing headlines, and certainly not your approval. But hey, good job derailing the conversation, I have totally forgotten what the story was about.
It's funny because it's true. If all laws were enforced with the same zeal as murder, civilization would end. The real mission of the police is to keep the peace, the courts enforce the law, the court has the right to take down a page if it thinks the page may prejudice the case. The Aussie cops are pretty blunt about these demands, they have stated on numerous occasions in all states, they are not interested in chasing internet trolls. They will however record your complaint in case the situation devolves into a real life conflict. Their standard advise is to ignore them and they will go away.
Besides, if the cops did start chasing seriously offensive trolls, surely they would have to start by arresting Andrew Bolt and tazering Alan Jones for refusing to drop his microphone, with the trolls communications in disarray they could send the swat team into the trolls fortress (AKA - Parliament).
Seriously though, I think to a large extent Aussies, (even those with power over you), believe in a single overriding, (and suitably vague), right we refer to as a "Fair go" (AKA "fair suck of the sav"), just like "free speech" it has to be both given and received by the majority for it to work as advertised. Even in Parliament this week our PM was given a "Fair go" when she defended her dignity, the dignity of the position she holds, and the right of the Speaker of the House to a fair trial. Abbot and the Libs to their credit "copped it fair" by remaining silent, the speaker did the honorable thing and stepped down voluntarily. Of course, after that subtle display of civilization was over, everyone immediately went back to what apes do naturally - throwing turds.
The US assisted a NATO mission in Lybia under the authority of the UNSC, the US did not lead. The mission was to keep the regime's military aircraft grounded, which obviously meant radar and AA installations were the primary targets. There is no such invitation from the global community for the US to assist in Syria, in fact they want the US to stay out of it. The UNSC itself is divided on what to do about Syria with Russia firmly against any action. So no, the same reasoning does not apply, Gadaffi's regime had run out of powerful sponsers, whereas the Syrian regime still has a few. Besides hasn't the US done enough damage with it's ham fisted attempts to help various brands of "feedom fighters" over the last half century or so?
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The constitution is like the bible, those who profess to know what it means usually haven't read it.
The Americans are having an election, in most countries this means you quietly cast a vote, in the US there's nothing quiet about it and only half of them cast a ballot.
You guys pissed off your own bull terrier, he turned around and bit you hard.
*Queue background Nelson laugh.*
HaHa.
Give up, your troll leaders had a senate inquisition, even they couldn't burn him. Here's the testimony submitted by the National Academies. Note the NAS were asked by the senatorial trolls to verify the statistics, (a subject you and they seem to have a poor grasp on). Note NAS did find some minor problems with the strength of Mann's claims but did not find anything to refute the claims. Note that Mann addressed those CONSTRUCTIVE criticisms in a subsequent paper published by NAS in the journal Science.
Attacking the science does not work for trolls, at the end of the day you are just plain wrong. However the attacks strengthen the science and swell the ranks of your opposition. In the late 90's when I started posting about this stuff on slashdot, I was consistently attacked and down modded, most of my attackers have now realized (as I did about 15yrs ago) that they were being lied to for political reasons and have quietly swapped to the rational side. I'm certainly no climate scientists but I have been following the subject since reading a book about it in 1980, being a young 20yo geek at the time it took me at least 10yrs before I realized some people were being paid to be dumb.
Assassinating the character of individual scientists is also the hallmark of AGW trolls and FF shills, it's basically all you guys have left as an argument. Your noise is just making more people aware of that fact, the last thing you want is an informed electorate and yet your once respected front men are being openly mocked. So go ahead and troll, spew your unoriginal lies all over the place, they are easily refutable by an 8yo and as such will encourage rational people to turn their back on you. So thanks to all the trolls "teaching the controversy" most people now know how to easily debunk the controversy, and a lot of those people are about to get angry, just like they did when they caught your mob lying for the tobacco industry.
You're being fooled by the media.
And you're fooling nobody, except yourself.
Look at contractors (plumbers, HVAC repair, etc.); they make really good money without any real education and without having to do any math.
Plumbers make good money because they are educated in plumbing, you think there is nothing to it because you are not educated in plumbing. Here in Oz it takes 4yrs to become a plumber and you must constantly keep your 'tickets' (qualification for doing job X) up to date. It took me 3yrs to get a degree in computer science 20yrs ago and there are no 'tickets' to maintain.
You were trained to speak english by your parents, does that make you a circus animal? Do you comprehend the noises you make? Actually don't answer that, I have no way of knowing if your answer is just another trained response.that comkes from being taught that humans have "special" abilities that are not found elsewhere in the natural world.
Unsurpising on a site where everyone talks out of their arse ;)
anyone remember SeaQuest DSV? ;)
Thanks, I was in the process of repurposing those neurons, now I have to start all over again.
There's also this strange behavior with humans where they value something more if they pay for it directly, even if the payment is trivial.
There's more to it than just chemical bonds, it has a lot to do with how the internal structure distributes the energy from an impact. Concrete without reenforcing is brittle, a surprisingly short length supported at each end will snap under its own weight. Wood is fibrous, it's much easier to split in one direction than the other, the fibers give wood a much greater ability to deform than concrete. Notice that none of the strongman stunts use plywood, cross-laminated timber doesn't split easily in any direction, structurally it's much stronger than either non-reenforced concrete or ordinary timber.
Simple, cheap, efficient, and trusted. - It's never gonna fly.
Your entitled to your opinion, I myself have lived in Melbourne for 50yrs. In 1969 our road toll was over 1000/yr, now with well over 10X the number of cars the toll hovers around 300-400/yr. The state government and the cops have put in a 30yr effort to keep the roads safe; speed cameras, booze buses, seat belts, unmarked cars, we invented the "shock" road saftey ads. The state is recognized internationally for its experiences and our methods have been widely copied by others. I think the occasional fine for a trivial infraction every now and then is a small price to pay for such a spectacular improvement, think of it as "insurance".
What is it they govern? Cops enforce the law they don't create it, sure they are instituted and funded by government, but that doesn't make them the government. Do people really believe every cop agrees with every law they are asked to enforce?
Yeah, no real harm done if the asprin is for your headache, not so fine if the asprin is for your heart problem, or the antibiotic is for an eye/lung infection, or your surgeon discovers the saline is in fact tap water after cutting you open. Knowingly defrauding the frail and the sick is the act of a morally bankrupt arsehole, placebo effect or otherwise. - rhetoric answer.
I watched a doco a while back about some people from doctors without borders and others who were talking about fake medicine, apparently it's quite a problem in Africa, they have fake generics as well as fake brands, and by fake I mean no active ingredient. Even fake saline solution for hospitals is a problem, it had became so troublesome for visiting surgeons on this documentary that they were bringing their own saline with them. As much as I resent a huge bureaucracy around medicine, all the alternatives I've seen are much worse.
They are meant to indoctrinate social order. "Nurturing nascent genius" would be in direct conflict with this goal.
Are you saying social disorder is the intelligent choice?
I'm not a genius, so maybe I'm just confused about your radical concepts, but I put it to you that you are young and socially powerless, the disorder you seek is ultimately all about getting yourself off the bottom of the social ladder. You want to be a 'real adult', you've had enough of the alpha monkeys throwing turds while you sit there and take it, now you want to fling a few back at them. My advise is concentrate on dodging the really big turds and get on with doing what you enjoy. Myself and the rest of the "boomer generation" will be dead soon enough, your generation (or maybe your parent's generation) will sprout silver hairs and will inherit the Earth. I seriously doubt the turds will stop flying when your parents generation are gone. However I do 'know' that if you take take every turd personally for the next 10-20yrs under the mistaken belief that freedom is something external to the mind, or that success is defined by society rather than arbitrarily acknowledged by it, then there's a very good chance you will die how you lived, blaming your self inflicted misery on others.
People can control your emotions only as much as you allow them to. Don't give them that power!
Thanks for posting something intelligent. Post after post from self proclaimed geniuses who couldn't work out how to amuse themselves at school were starting to bore me. And yeah, everyone is forced into a situations where they are powerless to one degree or another, working through that takes more than intelligence, it takes 'character'. Newton is recognized as one of the greatest polymaths of all time, but I've read two biographies on the guy and (unlike Eisenstein, Feynman, Sagan,...) his social skills were as sharp as Sheldon's.
At the end of the day intelligence is contextual, a genius in the lab is very different to a genius in the boxing ring. Muhammad Ali, Voltaire, Sun Tsu, Mozart - all geniuses, the only thing they have in common is they extend their chosen art, rather than just practiced it to the best of their ability. However being a genius in one context often comes at the cost of being a complete moron when the context changes, eg: from a warm basement full of wizz-kid toys to a cold class room full of other children.
we still don't have any cars running on ethanol
...in North America, S America, in particular Brazil have cars that can run on anything from 0-100% ethanol and it's been that way since the 1970's oil crisis. N. America will move toward hydrogen fuel cells to power cars like the volt, the captains of industry want it that way and have planned for it to be that way since the mid 1990. Few people want planet wide ethanol because of the land use problems it would create, even now there are big problems in Indonesia because palm oil plantations are mowing down the rain forest at an alarming rate.
Oddly enough the push for Indonesia to be the "palm oil capital of the world" was triggered a few years back when the US and EU in what I think was a genuine attempt to be "green" offered subsides for ethanol producers. In the US it was basically pork for corn farmers, the EU were happy to import it from the Indonesians and others.
What humanity needs, is a serious fact based investigation into energy production in the same way it did in recent history with both the LHC and IPCC. It's really is hard to think of another industry with more economic and political clout than the Fossil Fuel industry. Our lives literally depend on it, and yet like smoking it will clearly kill us in the long run. Being a bit of a geek it took me quite some time to figure it out, but I have now come to the conclusion that pollution is a human problem, not a technical one. I know how a hydrogen fuel cell works, but humans?
If the US didn't have that kind of muscle why would NATO ask in the first place? Personally I think it was good diplomacy for the US to show it's capable team sports without always being captain and umpire.
Get a life, the magazine has done a GoodThing(TM). Timmothy can call it a 'fart in a bottle' for all I care, it's their deed that counts not Tim's talent for eyeball grabbing headlines, and certainly not your approval. But hey, good job derailing the conversation, I have totally forgotten what the story was about.
It's funny because it's true. If all laws were enforced with the same zeal as murder, civilization would end. The real mission of the police is to keep the peace, the courts enforce the law, the court has the right to take down a page if it thinks the page may prejudice the case. The Aussie cops are pretty blunt about these demands, they have stated on numerous occasions in all states, they are not interested in chasing internet trolls. They will however record your complaint in case the situation devolves into a real life conflict. Their standard advise is to ignore them and they will go away.
Besides, if the cops did start chasing seriously offensive trolls, surely they would have to start by arresting Andrew Bolt and tazering Alan Jones for refusing to drop his microphone, with the trolls communications in disarray they could send the swat team into the trolls fortress (AKA - Parliament).
Seriously though, I think to a large extent Aussies, (even those with power over you), believe in a single overriding, (and suitably vague), right we refer to as a "Fair go" (AKA "fair suck of the sav"), just like "free speech" it has to be both given and received by the majority for it to work as advertised. Even in Parliament this week our PM was given a "Fair go" when she defended her dignity, the dignity of the position she holds, and the right of the Speaker of the House to a fair trial. Abbot and the Libs to their credit "copped it fair" by remaining silent, the speaker did the honorable thing and stepped down voluntarily. Of course, after that subtle display of civilization was over, everyone immediately went back to what apes do naturally - throwing turds.
the general consensus
Police were "pretty much laughing there", she added.
The US assisted a NATO mission in Lybia under the authority of the UNSC, the US did not lead. The mission was to keep the regime's military aircraft grounded, which obviously meant radar and AA installations were the primary targets. There is no such invitation from the global community for the US to assist in Syria, in fact they want the US to stay out of it. The UNSC itself is divided on what to do about Syria with Russia firmly against any action. So no, the same reasoning does not apply, Gadaffi's regime had run out of powerful sponsers, whereas the Syrian regime still has a few. Besides hasn't the US done enough damage with it's ham fisted attempts to help various brands of "feedom fighters" over the last half century or so?
Imagine a Beowulf cluster of E. coli ....
No imagination required, I have a tub of yoghurt in the fridge. I don't actually use the API myself, it gives my tongue a furry feeling.