I had to scroll past reams of crap about bikes and fat to find the first ontopic comment and I wholeheartedly agree with you. The medical research result these "meta-researchers" are failing to account for is the doubling of life expectancy over the last 100yrs.
The GP clearly hates the way Monstanto abuses GMO technology (and with good reason), equating this to hatred and/or ignorance of GMO technology is blatantly wrong.
He was an odd character that crammed a lot into his life, some were great scientific/mathematical achivements, some were great social achievments (gold standard) and some were just batshit crazy by our current standards. For example; he wrote almost a million words on the numerology of 666, stuck pins in his eyes to investigate the nature of light, claimed jesus was sent to earth to "operate the levers of gravity", and sucked down mecury fumes from the alchemist's bowl. But by shear volume his most prolific work was not as a scientist or alchemist but as a theologan.
I found it kinda sad when I went to see his grave at Wesminster Abbey, I asked one of the attendents where Newton's grave was and he said "Ahhh, a Davinci code fan, eh?", I replied a little indignantly - "No, I'm a Newton fan".
"This right here is the key sentence. When was the last time you've seen "restraint in the community" for the greater good of the whole?"
The last time I drove thru a green light.
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Hamas do have the ability to stop the rockets and have done so in the past for long periods of time, those gestures were largely ignored by Isreal. For it's part Isreal forcibly evicted all jewish settlers from the west bank, that gesture was largely ignored by Hamas.
When I was 3 or 4 years old I spent a lot of time mixing dirt with water and all I got was mud, but that was back in the early 60's so maybe things have changed?
"Those big engines in ships are the most efficient machines humans have ever built in terms of work done for energy input."
Only a large whale can offer transportation more energy efficient than a human on a bicycle. Of course a bicycle (or whale's) efficency suffers when carrying containers across the ocean.
I recall reading that someone tried this with a finite number of monkeys, they got a few pages covered mainly in the letter 'S' before the alpha male attacked the keyboard with a rock the others finished it off by pissing and shitting on it. The conclusion was that monkeys have intentions, they cannot be used as random input devices.
"3*27 is a perfect problem for either a rough estimate or a calculator....Arithmetic in your head is a good party trick in 2010, but it's not a useful skill."
Of course colours are useless to a blind man but it doesn't mean they are useless to everyone else.
You can't change a society overnight. When the civil rights movement was fighting for what you have today, China was gripped with a politically inspired famine.
1. Experiments demonstarte the GHG properties of CO2 and give the forcing formula as RF=5.35ln(C2/C1).
2. Observations demonstrate the global temprature aligns with the lab experiment after all other known forcings are taken into account.
3. Models predict unexpected large scale phenomena such as polar amplification and the cooling of the stratosphere.
4. Observations confirm the predictions in point 3.
5. Theories to explain the mechanisims behind the new phenomena are devised and tested in the lab.
Nothing in the above sequence of events demands a "faith in maths" but it certtainly demands an understanding of how to use maths to answer physical questions. Sure they could be wrong but that also implies that much of modern physics is wrong, especially spetral analysis and quantum mechanics. In that respect AGW-deniers attack science in the same way as creationists do, ie: with intellectual dishonestly and a complete lack of self-skepticisim. If that sounds harsh then show me a climate model from a denier that explains why the pysical properties of CO2 do not have any affect on the Earth's climate.
Here is something you won't find on ClimateAudit or RealClimate, the NAS testimony given to the US senate's inquisition into Mann's original Hockey stick paper.
Spoiler - The testimony shows McIntyre is at best just plain wrong. It also shows Mann made a minor technical error in his confidence levels (which he subsequently corrected in his 2005 follow up paper published in the journal Science).
Aside from that, the whole idea of "auditing science" is just plain stupid. It implies the auditer is the ultimate omniscient authority and reveals that McIntyre has no clue about the philosophy of science.
"Cuccinelli thoroughly analyzes the relevant law and doesn't misinterpret it to fit his preconceptions."
Cuccinelli claims on page 28 of the subpoena that since Mann used the word “community” in a blog post, he must be using “Post Normal” jargon, and that might be “misleading/fraudulent” in the context of a grant application. Now if that's not making a pretzelised interpretation of the law I don't know what is.
Given a fair judge, I cannot see any possibility of Cuccinelli nailing Mann to a cross while simultaneously grasping at such tenuous straws.
Have you actually seen the 10:10 mini movie? It's typical UK style black humour, written by the same guy who wrote Blackadder, it's style is reminicent of Monty Python's "Holy Grail". It was withdrawn due to complaints about violence from people like you who didn't get the joke.
"Researchers like Mann (as opposed to scientists who develop logical theories based on science)"
You have got to be fucking kidding, Mann is at the top of his field and lists well over 100 papers in his CV, many of them in journals such as Nature and Science.
The only reason this crooked AG can get away with resurecting McCarthyisim is because useful idiots like you allow him to do so.
"implementation cost of the policy [Mann] advocates"
I've read a lot of stuff from Mann but I'm unaware of any particular policy he is advocating other than the general "we need to cut emmissions". Can you provide a link to the "policy Mann advocates", and please no hearsay from the usual suspects, I want it in his own words.
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I had to scroll past reams of crap about bikes and fat to find the first ontopic comment and I wholeheartedly agree with you. The medical research result these "meta-researchers" are failing to account for is the doubling of life expectancy over the last 100yrs.
The GP clearly hates the way Monstanto abuses GMO technology (and with good reason), equating this to hatred and/or ignorance of GMO technology is blatantly wrong.
Yeah, it made me wince when I first read about it.
He was an odd character that crammed a lot into his life, some were great scientific/mathematical achivements, some were great social achievments (gold standard) and some were just batshit crazy by our current standards. For example; he wrote almost a million words on the numerology of 666, stuck pins in his eyes to investigate the nature of light, claimed jesus was sent to earth to "operate the levers of gravity", and sucked down mecury fumes from the alchemist's bowl. But by shear volume his most prolific work was not as a scientist or alchemist but as a theologan.
I found it kinda sad when I went to see his grave at Wesminster Abbey, I asked one of the attendents where Newton's grave was and he said "Ahhh, a Davinci code fan, eh?", I replied a little indignantly - "No, I'm a Newton fan".
The University of California published very similar research last year.
"This right here is the key sentence. When was the last time you've seen "restraint in the community" for the greater good of the whole?"
The last time I drove thru a green light.
Hamas do have the ability to stop the rockets and have done so in the past for long periods of time, those gestures were largely ignored by Isreal. For it's part Isreal forcibly evicted all jewish settlers from the west bank, that gesture was largely ignored by Hamas.
When I was 3 or 4 years old I spent a lot of time mixing dirt with water and all I got was mud, but that was back in the early 60's so maybe things have changed?
"Never judgde a creature solely by its size"
I caught a cute little possum by the tail when I was a kid, it was a mistake I won't make again!
"Those big engines in ships are the most efficient machines humans have ever built in terms of work done for energy input."
Only a large whale can offer transportation more energy efficient than a human on a bicycle. Of course a bicycle (or whale's) efficency suffers when carrying containers across the ocean.
For those who are interested, the quote comes from this interview.
Bet they were happy while they were spending it, fool and his money, etc.
I recall reading that someone tried this with a finite number of monkeys, they got a few pages covered mainly in the letter 'S' before the alpha male attacked the keyboard with a rock the others finished it off by pissing and shitting on it. The conclusion was that monkeys have intentions, they cannot be used as random input devices.
That's all fine and dandy until you have to cut the steel for the bridge.
"The fact of the matter is that, in real world situations, 3*27 is close enough to 90 for most purposes"
+1 Sad.
"3*27 is a perfect problem for either a rough estimate or a calculator....Arithmetic in your head is a good party trick in 2010, but it's not a useful skill."
Of course colours are useless to a blind man but it doesn't mean they are useless to everyone else.
You can't change a society overnight. When the civil rights movement was fighting for what you have today, China was gripped with a politically inspired famine.
For a practical POV the "inside of the universe" is all there is.
1. Experiments demonstarte the GHG properties of CO2 and give the forcing formula as RF=5.35ln(C2/C1).
2. Observations demonstrate the global temprature aligns with the lab experiment after all other known forcings are taken into account.
3. Models predict unexpected large scale phenomena such as polar amplification and the cooling of the stratosphere.
4. Observations confirm the predictions in point 3.
5. Theories to explain the mechanisims behind the new phenomena are devised and tested in the lab.
Nothing in the above sequence of events demands a "faith in maths" but it certtainly demands an understanding of how to use maths to answer physical questions. Sure they could be wrong but that also implies that much of modern physics is wrong, especially spetral analysis and quantum mechanics. In that respect AGW-deniers attack science in the same way as creationists do, ie: with intellectual dishonestly and a complete lack of self-skepticisim. If that sounds harsh then show me a climate model from a denier that explains why the pysical properties of CO2 do not have any affect on the Earth's climate.
Here is something you won't find on ClimateAudit or RealClimate, the NAS testimony given to the US senate's inquisition into Mann's original Hockey stick paper.
Spoiler - The testimony shows McIntyre is at best just plain wrong. It also shows Mann made a minor technical error in his confidence levels (which he subsequently corrected in his 2005 follow up paper published in the journal Science).
Aside from that, the whole idea of "auditing science" is just plain stupid. It implies the auditer is the ultimate omniscient authority and reveals that McIntyre has no clue about the philosophy of science.
wanker.
"Cuccinelli thoroughly analyzes the relevant law and doesn't misinterpret it to fit his preconceptions."
Cuccinelli claims on page 28 of the subpoena that since Mann used the word “community” in a blog post, he must be using “Post Normal” jargon, and that might be “misleading/fraudulent” in the context of a grant application. Now if that's not making a pretzelised interpretation of the law I don't know what is.
Given a fair judge, I cannot see any possibility of Cuccinelli nailing Mann to a cross while simultaneously grasping at such tenuous straws.
Have you actually seen the 10:10 mini movie? It's typical UK style black humour, written by the same guy who wrote Blackadder, it's style is reminicent of Monty Python's "Holy Grail". It was withdrawn due to complaints about violence from people like you who didn't get the joke.
"Researchers like Mann (as opposed to scientists who develop logical theories based on science)"
You have got to be fucking kidding, Mann is at the top of his field and lists well over 100 papers in his CV, many of them in journals such as Nature and Science. The only reason this crooked AG can get away with resurecting McCarthyisim is because useful idiots like you allow him to do so.
"implementation cost of the policy [Mann] advocates"
I've read a lot of stuff from Mann but I'm unaware of any particular policy he is advocating other than the general "we need to cut emmissions". Can you provide a link to the "policy Mann advocates", and please no hearsay from the usual suspects, I want it in his own words.