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Carnivorous Swamp Beast Discovered In Madagascar

crudmonkey writes "Researchers have identified a previously unknown species of carnivore lurking in one of the world's most endangered lakes. Durrell's vontsira, named in honor of the late conservationist and writer Gerald Durrell, was first photographed swimming in Madagascar's Lake Alaotra in 2004. Subsequent surveys confirmed the mongoose-like creature was indeed a new species. Durrell's vontsira is the first new carnivorous mammal discovered in Madagascar in 24 years. Little is known about the species, which is roughly the size of a cat."

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  1. I don't usually complain about summaries by phantomfive · · Score: 5, Informative

    I don't usually complain about the summaries (because I know they're all bad) but this one was a real disappointment to me. Carnivorous swamp beast?? I'm looking for this bad boy. But no, it's just a little cute furry guy, a little irate because someone is holding him by the throat. I would be irate too. OK, I know it's news, but such a disappointment.

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    1. Re:I don't usually complain about summaries by Kenja · · Score: 2, Funny

      You're looking for a tin submarine toy and plaster? But we found that years ago...

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    2. Re:I don't usually complain about summaries by Sulphur · · Score: 1

      That's no vontsira, that's a water fox.

    3. Re:I don't usually complain about summaries by syousef · · Score: 4, Funny

      I don't usually complain about the summaries (because I know they're all bad) but this one was a real disappointment to me. Carnivorous swamp beast?? I'm looking for this bad boy. But no, it's just a little cute furry guy, a little irate because someone is holding him by the throat. I would be irate too. OK, I know it's news, but such a disappointment.

      If it was a slashdotter vs that cute little guy, I'd put money on the beaver like thing. You're forgetting what years of living in a basement does to muscle. To most of us that is a BEAST.

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    4. Re:I don't usually complain about summaries by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I don't usually complain about the summaries (because I know they're all bad) but this one was a real disappointment to me.

      But you aren't even complaining about the summary, you're complaining about the title.

      If you'd read the summary you wouldn't have been disappointed by the pictures because of the following.

      mongoose-like creature

      roughly the size of a cat.

      So stop complaining about the summary when you didn't even read the summary.

      Also, heh. The captcha was "retorts".

    5. Re:I don't usually complain about summaries by Hognoxious · · Score: 5, Insightful

      But no, it's just a little cute furry guy

      I'd be careful about describing a previously unknown carnivore as cute. It might have been unknown because nobody met one before, but it could be because nobody who met one lived to tell about it.

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    6. Re:I don't usually complain about summaries by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      ...

      Have you, uh, looked at the pictures of it in the article?

    7. Re:I don't usually complain about summaries by arivanov · · Score: 2, Funny

      I will give you my mom's siamese to hold.

      It is roughly the same size, is very old for a cat (17y), frail, slow and has terminal cancer.

      Wanna try? I am happy to call the ambulance afterwards.

      Never judgde a creature solely by its size. That is a very fine set of fangs and razorblades I see there...

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    8. Re:I don't usually complain about summaries by Nursie · · Score: 2, Funny

      That's no vontsira. It's a space station.

    9. Re:I don't usually complain about summaries by Neil+Boekend · · Score: 4, Funny

      Your knowledge of rabbit carnivorous creatures is lacking my friend. Although it looks cute the Rabbit of Caerbannog should not be trifled with!
      On a side note: is copy paste somehow destroyed on /.? I was trying to copy the name from Wikipedia but it will not paste.

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    10. Re:I don't usually complain about summaries by MonsterMasher · · Score: 1

      But no, it's just a little cute furry guy

      I'd be careful about describing a previously unknown carnivore as cute. It might have been unknown because nobody met one before, but it could be because nobody who met one lived to tell about it.

      Short book title for you: The Legacy of Heorot (1987)
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    11. Re:I don't usually complain about summaries by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Yesterday I went out to buy some groceries. When I came back home my wife commented that the carrots I had bought were very big, so I told her: "If this is what the carrots look like, just imagine the size of the rabbit!"

      She did not laugh. She does not share my sense of humor.

    12. Re:I don't usually complain about summaries by moonbender · · Score: 1

      I agree that rabbit should generally not be part of a trifle. That said, it's originally a British dish, so who knows.

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    13. Re:I don't usually complain about summaries by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      You're forgetting what years of living in a basement does to muscle.

      Wait - what does years of a slashdotter living in the basement do to muscle? Oh, so as long as we hold the beastie in our right arms, we'll be fine?

    14. Re:I don't usually complain about summaries by agw · · Score: 3, Funny

      Took them 24 years to find the cute babies. Just wait until they find the first full grown one.

    15. Re:I don't usually complain about summaries by Some1too · · Score: 3, Funny

      I don't usually complain about the summaries (because I know they're all bad) but this one was a real disappointment to me. Carnivorous swamp beast?? I'm looking for this bad boy. But no, it's just a little cute furry guy, a little irate because someone is holding him by the throat. I would be irate too. OK, I know it's news, but such a disappointment. If it was a slashdotter vs that cute little guy, I'd put money on the beaver like thing. You're forgetting what years of living in a basement does to muscle. To most of us that is a BEAST.

      I think the average slahdotter living in his basement would have no problem choking something of the size of a small rodent...

      I tried to resist but it was just too easy. I feel like I should also state I live in a basement, post on slashdot and have a girlfriend... ;-)

      S.

    16. Re:I don't usually complain about summaries by oddaddresstrap · · Score: 1

      Looks can be deceiving. The beast guarding the Cave of Kyle Banor in The Holy Grail was furry and cute, too.

    17. Re:I don't usually complain about summaries by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      Are there those that call you ... "Tim"?

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    18. Re:I don't usually complain about summaries by TapeCutter · · Score: 1

      "Never judgde a creature solely by its size"

      I caught a cute little possum by the tail when I was a kid, it was a mistake I won't make again!

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    19. Re:I don't usually complain about summaries by slyrat · · Score: 0, Troll

      On a side note: is copy paste somehow destroyed on /.? I was trying to copy the name from Wikipedia but it will not paste.

      This seems to be a problem with how it is coded for particular browsers. Copy/paste works fine for me using firefox 4beta6.

    20. Re:I don't usually complain about summaries by darthdavid · · Score: 1

      I masturbate left-handed you insensitive clod!

    21. Re:I don't usually complain about summaries by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      I've had that issues with Firefox under windows.

      Try tapping the 'windows' key. It usually fixes it (for some reason firefox gets into an odd keys-have-a-different-meaning mode that isn't carrot browsing.) It involves combinations of the windows key and [ctrl], and possibly the multiple-desktops addon.

    22. Re:I don't usually complain about summaries by shadowfaxcrx · · Score: 1

      As long as we're picking nits, it's not new. It's just new to us. It's probably been around as long as, or longer than, we have.

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    23. Re:I don't usually complain about summaries by randizzle3000 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Haha...Palmela Handerson?

    24. Re:I don't usually complain about summaries by Vexor · · Score: 1

      About the size of a cat? Are we talking household "domestic" cat or .....? For science/news "about the size of x" is rather vague.

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    25. Re:I don't usually complain about summaries by cynyr · · Score: 1

      copy paste seems to be destroyed for chrome on linux at least for me.

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    26. Re:I don't usually complain about summaries by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      and have a girlfriend...

      Use caution with sharp items around her.

    27. Re:I don't usually complain about summaries by MokuMokuRyoushi · · Score: 1

      Risking offtopic here, hit me.

      Oddly, I've had the same ctrl+c ctrl+v issues. Are you perhaps using Chrome?

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    28. Re:I don't usually complain about summaries by shadowbearer · · Score: 1

        Indeed. Anyone who considers something the size of a cat not dangerous, has never tried to bathe a cat.

        I tried. Once. He is 23lbs of gentle, loving, lazy tomcat with a permanent dander problem. That was five years and some odd months ago. I still have scars. I have the section of denim jeans I was wearing, that he tore four ragged six inch rips in (and the flesh underneath, 20 stitches). He didn't bite me, wasn't even after me in any serious manner, he just wanted to get the hell out of the bathtub.

        Just because they are small, furry, and cute, does not mean they are harmless. Think of what one of the critters like the one in the article could do if it decided to take you out while you were sleeping...

      SB

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    29. Re:I don't usually complain about summaries by Neil+Boekend · · Score: 1

      Yes. They try to disable us. The insensitive clods!

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    30. Re:I don't usually complain about summaries by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh, come on. The handler hasn't been shredded by those very long, and I assume sharp claws. I hope they don't stuff it in a collecting jar to prove it exists...

    31. Re:I don't usually complain about summaries by BraksDad · · Score: 1

      Just keep it away from water after midnight

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  2. R.O.U.S. by schlesinm · · Score: 3, Funny

    Obviously it's a Rodent Of Unusual Size.

    1. Re:R.O.U.S. by The_mad_linguist · · Score: 4, Funny

      Look, which is a more sensible size for a Carnivorous Swamp Beast? "Roughly the size of a cat", or "roughly the size of a car"?

      I can get a poet to testify under oath if necessary.

    2. Re:R.O.U.S. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I take it that in true ./ fashion, you did not, in fact, look at the photos in the article?

    3. Re:R.O.U.S. by $RANDOMLUSER · · Score: 4, Funny

      Look, which is a more sensible size for a Carnivorous Swamp Beast? "Roughly the size of a cat", or "roughly the size of a car"?

      Roughly the size of Cthulhu.

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    4. Re:R.O.U.S. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Mr Coward: Do you or do you not recall hearing, on the morning of Monday, October the eleventh, in the year of two thousand and ten, a loud sound that one would generally describe as a "whoosh?"

    5. Re:R.O.U.S. by Arancaytar · · Score: 2, Insightful

      More like a Rodent Of Usual Size. It's not much larger than a rat. :P

    6. Re:R.O.U.S. by terminallyCapricious · · Score: 0

      Carnivorous swamp beasts often make a very good meal for visiting tourists.

    7. Re:R.O.U.S. by MichaelSmith · · Score: 1

      I don't believe they exist.

    8. Re:R.O.U.S. by Neil+Boekend · · Score: 3, Funny

      Carnivorous swamp beasts often make a very good meal of visiting tourists.

      FTFY

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    9. Re:R.O.U.S. by AVryhof · · Score: 1

      Carnivorous swamp beasts often make a very good meal of forty visiting tourists.

      FTFY

      FTFY

    10. Re:R.O.U.S. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's a grendel.

    11. Re:R.O.U.S. by thousandinone · · Score: 1

      Roughly the size of Cthulhu.

      But Cthulhu can change size at will...

    12. Re:R.O.U.S. by AragornSonOfArathorn · · Score: 1

      Obviously it's a Rodent Of Unusual Size.

      So is your mom.

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    13. Re:R.O.U.S. by BraksDad · · Score: 1

      AMC Gremlin?

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  3. and then... by OnePumpChump · · Score: 4, Informative

    it went extinct.

    1. Re:and then... by Fluffeh · · Score: 4, Insightful

      it went extinct.

      Oh come on, that's not trolling. The creature in question lives in a single lake. The land around the lake, which used to be heavy forest has been cut down. This now causes all the soil to get dumped into the lake whenever it rains. Even this article itself said that so much soil has been dumped into the lake that during the dry season, the level of water drops to a depth of 2 feet!

      The comment there isn't a -Troll. It is merely prematurely +Informative.

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    2. Re:and then... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Shame too. Hopefully they can get some people in there to deal with it quickly and try to get a stable habitat going again. But i doubt it will happen.

      Guess all they can do now is take a snapshot of its cells, DNA, etc, and store it in the DNA banks for whenever we can revive the species...

    3. Re:and then... by andr00oo · · Score: 1

      The land around the lake, which used to be heavy forest has been cut down.

      The land has been cut down? Weird

    4. Re:and then... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      but its so cute ;'-(

      -sad panda

    5. Re:and then... by LizardKing · · Score: 4, Informative

      The uncompacted soil absorbs most of the water which previously remained standing on a thick, compacted and sludgy lake bottom. The soil has also raised the lake bed, which allows the water to drain off more easily into the denuded land surrounding the lake - soil which is less tightly bound together thanks to the increasing absence of deep rooted vegetation.

    6. Re:and then... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      You seem to think that a lake is as simple as a impermeable bathtub or a bowl with a fixed volume of water. It isn't. Water has a constant volume, but we aren't dealing with a constant volume. It's a dynamically flowing system. And the basin in which the water sits isn't fixed either.

      Infilling of lakes by sediment happens all the time, and, yes, it does result in shallowing of the lake and its eventual conversion into dry (or at least swampy) land. Lakes rarely deepen. Vegetation and sediment usually fills them up unless some process is regularly cleaning that material out (e.g., river erosion), dissolving the bedrock (e.g., in limestone areas) or the lake bottom is subsiding for some reason (e.g., tectonics or sediment compaction).

      Lakes are at a given level because of an equilibrium between inflow and outflow. Inflows can be from direct precipitation, from water on the surface of the land (i.e. runoff) or can be subsurface (i.e. groundwater). Outflows can also be over the surface or into the groundwater, plus evaporation. Independent of the water inflow and outflow, the equilibrium level is often strongly determined by the terrain and the effect it has on those inflow/outflow rates. For example, if the lake level overtops a natural barrier, then the outflow increases greatly and the lake doesn't get significantly higher no matter how much extra water flows in. Think of it like a natural dam with a reservoir behind it. In this circumstance, if "extra dirt" fills to the level of the top of the dam, then guess what? No more lake. All you have is mud-filled plain and maybe a river flowing over it. Change the shape of the terrain (e.g., by dumping sediment on it) and even with the same amount of water passing through the system and no change in climate you can make a lake disappear entirely. The water flow is still there, but it may be largely in the groundwater, not forming a pool on the surface.

      In areas where vegetation is stripped away another effect comes into play. Not only will you deliver more sediment into the lake due to increased erosion, but you also change the timing and rates at which water flows over the terrain and into the groundwater. Vegetation acts as a kind of buffer, so that when heavy rains fall, it tends to soak up the water like a sponge and impede its flow. This has three important effects: 1) it increases the amount of infiltration of surface water into the groundwater, 2) it slows down the surface flow and prolongs it, and 3) it decreases the peak amount of surface flow. This means that if you strip away the vegetation more of the water fill flow quickly down the slopes into the lake basin, overtop the natural barriers, and keep on going down the drainage system. Raging river floods will become more common. Whereas if the plants are there, the water will be released more slowly into the lake and there is more groundwater, replenishing the lake in between the rainstorms. This difference in flow amounts and timing can mean the difference between the lake drying out completely between rainfalls and merely being lower, even with the rainfall pattern being exactly the same as it was before.

      All other things kept the same, stripping away vegetation around a lake will often have profound effects. It's one of the reasons that it is standard practice in environmentally responsible parts of the world to leave a significant buffer of forest around lakes to try to minimize the effect of human activities.

    7. Re:and then... by TapeCutter · · Score: 1

      When I was 3 or 4 years old I spent a lot of time mixing dirt with water and all I got was mud, but that was back in the early 60's so maybe things have changed?

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    8. Re:and then... by elrous0 · · Score: 1

      If a species goes extinct in the woods, and some whiny group of hippies never knew it existed, did it really ever exist?

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  4. Which is it? Or is it both? by adamofgreyskull · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Beneath the picture, is this:

    Durrell's vontsira is the first new carnivorous mammal discovered in Madagascar in 24 years.

    Elsewhere in the article, twice, is this:

    The first new carnivorous mammal to be discovered for 24 years

    Was the last carnivorous mammal that was discovered, discovered 24 years ago in Madagascar? I don't know about anyone else, but I would infer from the qualifier "in Madagascar" that a carnivorous mammal was discovered less than 24 years ago somewhere else in the world.

    1. Re:Which is it? Or is it both? by Kilrah_il · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I guess they assume that having written "in Madagascar" once, you would understand the point and they would not need to keep repeating it. OTOH, why pass up an opportunity for being unnecessarily pedantic.

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    2. Re:Which is it? Or is it both? by GoochOwnsYou · · Score: 1

      I agree with parent. The latter sentence is implying there hasn't been a carnivorous mammal discovered in 24 years at all and if that is not the case then it should specify "in Madagascar"

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    3. Re:Which is it? Or is it both? by norminator · · Score: 1

      Do you agree with the parent of your post, or that parent's parent, that is to say, the grandparent (for you, but the great grandparent to me)?

      We're all vulnerable to pedantic jerks, so let's all just start letting some crap slide.

    4. Re:Which is it? Or is it both? by Dabido · · Score: 1

      I discovered my ex-wife around about 24 years ago. She was a swamp beast carnivorous thing. She wasn't from Madagascar though, she was from Sydney, Australia!

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  5. First things first by jamesh · · Score: 3, Insightful

    what does it taste like?

    1. Re:First things first by fotbr · · Score: 4, Informative

      Chicken.

    2. Re:First things first by $RANDOMLUSER · · Score: 2, Funny

      That's just Western chauvinism. For example, in Japan, parents tell their children that chicken "tastes just like squid".

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    3. Re:First things first by ozmanjusri · · Score: 4, Funny

      ...And in Shunga Japan, squid parents tell their children that fishermen's wives taste just like fish.

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    4. Re:First things first by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What? If chicken tastes like squid and this tastes like chicken, then it also tastes like squid. Transitivity!

    5. Re:First things first by LearnToSpell · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Doubtful. Carnivorous animals tend to taste awful.

    6. Re:First things first by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 1

      what does it taste like?

      It probably tastes, like whatever it ate.

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    7. Re:First things first by xaxa · · Score: 1

      Had Charles Darwin discovered the animal, he'd probably have tried it. (ref).

    8. Re:First things first by Beriaru · · Score: 1

      You probably wouldn't tell appart cat from rabbit in a stew.

    9. Re:First things first by Anne_Nonymous · · Score: 1

      >> what does it taste like?

      A bit like Dodo bird with a hint of Moa.

    10. Re:First things first by moonbender · · Score: 1

      Tuna tastes pretty good to me. Lots of other reasons for not eating it all that often, though.

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    11. Re:First things first by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think you meant carnivorous mammals tend to taste awful.

      Fish, crustaceans, reptiles, and similar all taste pretty good.

      I'm not sure about carnivorous birds (maybe some of our elected officials can tell us what bald eagle tastes like).

    12. Re:First things first by elrous0 · · Score: 1

      Being someone who is very rich I can tell you that bald eagle tastes a lot like giant panda.

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    13. Re:First things first by RealGrouchy · · Score: 1

      I'm not so sure. Some of my vegetarian friends have very bad taste.

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    14. Re:First things first by Laxori666 · · Score: 2, Informative

      You begin to eat the fox corpse. This fox corpse tastes terrible!

    15. Re:First things first by wisdom_brewing · · Score: 1

      I quite like the taste of a pig raised on human flesh...

    16. Re:First things first by CAIMLAS · · Score: 1

      I'd not be surprised if it tastes like pork, which tastes like cat, bear, and beaver (of type rodentia - the other kind tastes like fish).

      Quite possibly, it has a stringy, dark meat which is bitter unless stewed (and then becomes quite savory).

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    17. Re:First things first by LearnToSpell · · Score: 1

      Pigs aren't carnivores. Neither are bears, and beavers don't eat meat at all. I have no idea what cat tastes like... that I know of. :)

    18. Re:First things first by jamesh · · Score: 1

      They've just started playing the Goodies again here in Australia. I'm hanging out for the Dodo episode :)

    19. Re:First things first by ElderKorean · · Score: 1

      Doubtful. Carnivorous animals tend to taste awful.

      Many of the fish species that we eat are carnivores though

    20. Re:First things first by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Huh ?? I guess you don't like Pork...or Most fish ..how about Crabs ?

  6. We are so quick to label it a 'beast' by ParkedStar · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The...'beast'...has most probably NEVER encountered humans before...and I'm sure if I were a small animal who has lived most of my quiet existence never crossing the path of a 20-fingered, land-dwelling giant and suddenly found myself being strangled, dangling in the air in front of 2+ of these foreigners and kidnapped from my perfectly-fine home and family; I'd be questioning who the beast really is.

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    1. Re:We are so quick to label it a 'beast' by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is it peer pressure?

    2. Re:We are so quick to label it a 'beast' by mister_playboy · · Score: 3, Funny

      20-fingered

      Inbreed much? :)

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    3. Re:We are so quick to label it a 'beast' by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Meh. Among biologists, beast refers to any therian (basically, any placental mammal, I.E. mammals that are not marsupials(kangaroo) or monotremes(platypus.)) Only on Slashdot would butting into a conversation that you are not qualified to speak in and making an ass of yourself be called "informative."

      Now, an animal with 20 fingers would be new to science. I mean, the discovery of even 8 digits to a limb would be quite the curiosity. Finding that on the digits of the front limb of a primate would be quite amazing. I suppose it would be more likely to find one with two extra front limbs, most likely due to a partially absorbed twin.

    4. Re:We are so quick to label it a 'beast' by tokul · · Score: 1

      Now, an animal with 20 fingers [wikipedia.org] would be new to science.

      In some languages toe uses same noun as finger. 10 fingers + 10 toes = 20.

    5. Re:We are so quick to label it a 'beast' by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The...'beast'...has most probably NEVER encountered humans before...

      I wouldn't say so, as this region is quite populated. I bet that this species was already well known amongst local natives, but simply not to our scientists.

    6. Re:We are so quick to label it a 'beast' by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And in some languages, they don't have a word for numbers larger than three. Your point is?

    7. Re:We are so quick to label it a 'beast' by Sique · · Score: 5, Informative

      I mean, the discovery of even 8 digits to a limb would be quite the curiosity.

      I hereby present you the Acanthostega, which has eight digits per arm. The number of toes per limb is yet unknown. But the Ichthyostega, which has seven digits per arm, has also seven toes per limb, so I would not be surprised if newly found fossils would show eight toes per limb for the Acanthostega.

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    8. Re:We are so quick to label it a 'beast' by CProgrammer98 · · Score: 1

      8 fingers + 2 thumbs + 10 toes = 20 digits

      Fixed.

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    9. Re:We are so quick to label it a 'beast' by tokul · · Score: 1

      Your point is?

      An animal with 20 digits is not new to science. Homo sapiens has 20 digits. Original poster only confused fingers with digits.

    10. Re:We are so quick to label it a 'beast' by RevWaldo · · Score: 2, Funny

      Look, do you want a SyFy original movie based on this critter (Swamp Beast!, starring Lucy Lawless and Erik Estrada) or don't you?

      .

  7. species by nxcho · · Score: 1

    I hope they name it Jozin.

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    1. Re:species by spineboy · · Score: 1

      Maybe they can bomb it with the collectives crop duster.

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  8. beast , Any animal other than a human by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    for some reason you're assuming beast has a different meaning

  9. Sjezus Christ! by santax · · Score: 1

    It is coming right for us!

  10. I for one... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    welcome our new flesh eating cat-bear looking overloards

    1. Re:I for one... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I, for one, hope it likes the taste of retard, so we can feed it pieces of you and your children.

  11. Nessie by Ron+Bakker · · Score: 1

    See .... the lochness monster is not that improbable ...

  12. First carnivorous mammal discovered in 24 years. by Hermanas · · Score: 0

    TFA states that it's the first carnivorous mammal discovered in 24 years (presumably world-wide), not only the first in 24 years in Madagascar like in the summary. Which one is it?

  13. I was hoping.... by Fizzol · · Score: 2, Funny

    for Mokele-mbembe.

  14. It seems very nervous in the pictures. by SharpFang · · Score: 2, Funny

    Did they try wrapping towels around their heads to calm it down?

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    1. Re:It seems very nervous in the pictures. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Did they try wrapping towels around their heads to calm it down?

      I think it was waiting for them to slather their fingers with delicious ketchup, mustard, BBQ, honey, and "duck" sauces. But not waiting too long. ("On second thought, I'll have those finger tips au natural, sauteed in their own juices. Now if only they'll relax their grip on my throat...")

  15. New film anyone by dredwerker · · Score: 2, Funny

    Madagascar 4 the wild beast of the lake - a homecoming story.

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  16. Re:First carnivorous mammal discovered in 24 years by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Reading. You fail it.

  17. Hardly new by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's not a "new species" – it might be previously unknown to us, though.

  18. Its head looks a bit weasel-like by Arancaytar · · Score: 1

    Minus the ears.

  19. Explanatory You Tube Link by Liambp · · Score: 1

    For those who didn't get the reference above to Jozin
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4aqM_wu6Ns

  20. Debianicus Ice Weaselius by flyingfsck · · Score: 1

    To me, it looks like an African Dassie, which like cockroaches, will *never* go extinct. However, maybe it is the illusive Debianicus Ice Weaselius?

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  21. Endangered Lake??? by x_IamSpartacus_x · · Score: 1, Funny

    Ok... what the heck is an endangered lake? Aren't all lakes different and therefore "the last just like it", therefore endangered? If there's only one left of any species of animal that animal would be endangered, so wouldn't you say that every lake is endangered simply because it's the last and only of it's kind? Am I missing something?

    1. Re:Endangered Lake??? by flyingfsck · · Score: 1

      Well, you go to be careful. When a lake is in danger, it will curl up into a ball and pee on your foot...

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    2. Re:Endangered Lake??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My guess is that an endangered lake is one that is drying out, either because of a (natural) cvhange in climate, or because of the intervention of people (diverting the water away from it for irrigation etc.

      Sometimes these things are cyclical, my father-in-law comes from Devils Lake (ND) and it nearly dried up when he was a kid.

    3. Re:Endangered Lake??? by sznupi · · Score: 1

      A critter with only one living individual left isn't endangered, it's functionally extinct.

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  22. Is it Old Greg? by definate · · Score: 1

    I imagine that whatever this is, it must be Old Greg.

    He doesn't like people playin' in his waters. He's gonna hurt you, he likes you, what do you think of him? Don't lie to him boy!

    He knows what you're thinking, he's Old Greg, he's a scaly man fish!

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  23. An orange is just a carrot of unusual size by k2r · · Score: 4, Informative

    > Obviously it's a Rodent Of Unusual Size.
    The most obvious feature defining rodents are their teeth.
    The most obvious feature of the newly discovered animal to see in the picture(s) are its teeth which are about as non rodent as an animal's teeth can be.

    1. Re:An orange is just a carrot of unusual size by captainpanic · · Score: 1

      Indeed... it seems closer to an otter (non rodent) than a beaver (rodent).

    2. Re:An orange is just a carrot of unusual size by Greyfox · · Score: 1

      It looks like a mustilid of some sort, though it might also be some offshoot of mongoose (Which I think are not in that family.) I can't see its ears in that photo. It could just be someone's pet badger that got loose...

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    3. Re:An orange is just a carrot of unusual size by Stargoat · · Score: 1

      It's not even classified as a Musteloidea. According to the Wikipedia article, the Salanoia durrelli is from a completely different family, endemic to only Madagascar. If you look careful at the teeth, you'll see they don't resemble Musteloidea in the least.

      Poor thing looks absolutely terrified.

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    4. Re:An orange is just a carrot of unusual size by smillie · · Score: 1

      quote: Poor thing looks absolutely terrified.

      It's not scruffed and the person is holding the feet up. If that animal were unhappy (like some of my ferrets get) there would be some serious blood from bites and claw rips.

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    5. Re:An orange is just a carrot of unusual size by CAIMLAS · · Score: 1

      The look of this creature is very similar to that of a badger or a wolverine - I'd not be surprised if it were related.

      It also has a tail and shares a lot of characteristics with the lemur; I wonder if it might not be related to the lemur and have a marsupial heritage?

      Depending on its age, it may be young (ie not full grown). It looks like a younger creature.

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  24. re: you did not raise your hand by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    After much deep and profound brain things inside my head, I have decided to ignore your point.

    Therefore, your heinous comment will be stricken from the record. Does anyone else have the heebiedibigibies? No? Good. So shut up.

    How can you have the heebie jeebies for Durrell's vontsira? He's so cute, and plushy!

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  25. Huge Hands by zAPPzAPP · · Score: 0

    If this is the size of a cat (even roughly), that man has really huge hands.

    1. Re:Huge Hands by sznupi · · Score: 1

      Hm, so not only humans in the US are overfed...

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  26. Rabbit of Caerbannog by BrightSpark · · Score: 1

    Ni!

  27. I can't believe that by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    they haven't closed the ports yet.

  28. And this is on /. because ...? by yet-another-lobbyist · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Stuff that matters? Are you kidding? What's next? Filing weather forecasts?

    1. Re:And this is on /. because ...? by Yamata+no+Orochi · · Score: 1

      Stuff that matters? Are you kidding? What's next? Filing weather forecasts?

      ...Discovery of new species posted as a Slashdot Science story. And you're complaining? Give me some examples of what YOU think the Science column should post.

    2. Re:And this is on /. because ...? by yet-another-lobbyist · · Score: 1

      * Quantum Computing
      * Bandwidth of Optical Fibers
      * Transistors based on Graphene
      * New Display Technology
      * New Input Devices
      * Image Recognitions Techniques
      * Encryption Algorithms
      * Computer-powered Mathematics
      * Computer-powered Physics
      * New Processor Designs
      * Laser technology (data transmission)
      * Integrated Optics
      * Magnetic (and optical) storage
      * Solar Cells and other alternative energies

      ... and if I spend ten more minutes, I can probably come up with 50 more items which I believe are more interesting and relevant to geeks and the technology they like use and like to have in the future. Sounds a lot more "sexy" to me than a rodent-like looking little creature.
      Sure, I will admit that my point of view is subjective. Everyone is free to disagree; different readers will prefer different topics. But how is my contribution "off-topic"? There are lots of comments every day discussing whether a submission is "worthy". I thought that this would be a valuable kind of feedback.

    3. Re:And this is on /. because ...? by MozeeToby · · Score: 1

      Not one of those things should be under the 'Science' heading, which is what the question was in reference to. Besides, just because the only subject you care about is technology doesn't mean that biology isn't interesting science to a lot of other people. Discovering a carnivorous mammal for the first time is quite rare, as the article says, the last time it happened was 24 years ago.

    4. Re:And this is on /. because ...? by yet-another-lobbyist · · Score: 1

      I respectfully disagree on which of these items would be called science or technology. The Physics Nobel Prize was just awarded for graphene with all its electronic applications. So you do not deem it science. Well, you have your right to your point of view.
      And, btw, it was the first time in 24 years in Madagaskar that they found a new carnivore (at least according to the summary). So it may not be as rare an event considering how many countries and islands there are around the globe...

    5. Re:And this is on /. because ...? by sznupi · · Score: 1

      All of the listed areas practically didn't exist a mere century ago, most not really even half of that time (and some can be easily looked at more as areas of engineering)

      I didn't realize science was such a young thing...

      An example of a newfound beast which will be soon extinct, prompting is (perhaps... slightly...) to take a closer look at holocene extinction event - a very transformative thing - is decently notable.

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  29. Its teh chupacabra! by xmorg · · Score: 1

    You were warned! We told you! You wouldnt listen! how many more time swill you ingore us wen the aliens come!!!!

  30. Durrell by Anne_Nonymous · · Score: 3, Informative

    For what it's worth, Durrell wrote a number of fun books about Zoology and his explorations of the natural world. I'd recommend them as good beach reading or for young people interested in animals or natural sciences.

    1. Re:Durrell by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...And he was carnivorous!

  31. Looks Tasty. by drmattnd · · Score: 0

    I wonder who will be the first to go on record as having eaten this beast.

    1. Re:Looks Tasty. by phrackwulf · · Score: 1

      Chuck Norris

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  32. I don't usually complain about nicks on /. by roman_mir · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    But when I see a nick name like this: "phantomfive", I expect to see this bad boy but what we normally observe behind such impressive name on the interwebs is something like this.

    Did I get that right?

    1. Re:I don't usually complain about nicks on /. by roman_mir · · Score: 0, Redundant

      Oooooh, common, that was considered to be off-topic in that thread?

    2. Re:I don't usually complain about nicks on /. by phantomfive · · Score: 1

      lol Ironically I actually do have a picture of myself looking somewhat like the first one, glowing photoshopped lightsaber and everything.

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  33. Whatever knows fear... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Burns at the salanoia durrelli's touch!!!!

  34. New Species? by bigrockpeltr · · Score: 1

    looks like our local mongooses ( which im not sure are unique to our island. )

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  35. Size of a cat? by InsertCleverUsername · · Score: 1

    Dang. Reading the summary, I was all excited until they ruined it at the end by revealing that it was only "the size of a cat." Mondays are filled with disappointment.

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  36. There are cats and there are cats by voss · · Score: 1

    they are talking about cats overseas which weigh 6 to 10 lbs not those supersize 20 lb cats that live in the usa.
    Im not talking about the superfat overfed cats in the US im talking about the generally larger breeds here in the US. The domestic
    cat breeds in Africa and asia tend to be quite a bit smaller and slender.

    When the article says that animal is as large as a cat, they mean a smaller african domestic cat.

    1. Re:There are cats and there are cats by sznupi · · Score: 1

      One other thing might be contributing greatly - this is an aquatic animal. Cats are furry; they become much slender and smaller when totally soaked.

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  37. Good news, everyone! by paiute · · Score: 1

    It lives only in Madagascar, so no matter how nasty it is, it will be extinct in ten years.

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  38. Another reason... by Thelasko · · Score: 1

    to support your local cryptozoologist.

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  39. Hell... by dvoecks · · Score: 2, Funny

    Jimmy Carter was attacked by a scarier-looking swamp beast than that!

  40. And in this slide.. by phrackwulf · · Score: 1

    We have a close-up of a feature of the animals jaw we call the "durellitzer" after the late Gerard Durrell. *shudder* poor man.

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  41. Amazing by cloakedpegasus · · Score: 1

    I'm still amazed at how we are still discovering new species.

  42. Also dissapointed... by Ecuador · · Score: 1

    "Carnivorous swamp beast"... Oh, come on! I was expecting something close to the Ravenous Bugblatter Beast of Traal and all I go is a groundhog with better dental hygiene and a temper...

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  43. New Carnivorous Beast Discovered? by UndyingShadow · · Score: 3, Funny

    New Carnivorous Beast Discovered? In Madagascar? SHUT DOWN EVERYTHING!