Perhaps it was, as someone else has suggested the whole thing mearly put him back to where he had started. It's been a long time since I watched the movie and there are a million different ways to interpret Kubrick (which is why I like his stuff).
"I suppose it's "profound," in the sense that its message seems to be that the horrible (but independent-minded) Alex is actually better than the hypocritical government and other people who tried to use his plight for political ends"
That's what I got out of it, although for me the ending speech puts Alex in the position of a government manafactured Frakenstien. I saw the whole thing as a warning that said a society that aims to rid itself of violence through "phycological eugenics" will ultimately destroy itself. I'm not sure how old you are but there was a general fear in the late 60's - early 70's of government mandated "Skinner boxes" for humans. The ending of the book sounds more like a real world senario. Damm you, I will have to go and read it now....
It was a sin because in the end it didn't ruin Beethoven for him it had the opposite effect and made violence a thing of beauty for him.
ALEX's voice over at the end of the movie - "And what do you know, my brothers and only friends, it was the 9th, the glorious 9th of Ludwig van. Oh, it was gorgeosity and yummy yum yum. I was cured. As the music came to its climax, I could viddy myself very clear, running and running on like very light and mysterious feet, carving the whole face of the creeching world with my cut throat britva. I was cured all right."
No, that's what the TV is for. OTOH what do I know, I thought the whole point of a robotic vacum cleaner was to spend less time with your vacum cleaner.
"Some (one?) states, you see, have had intelligent water restrictions for many years and have enough water because of smart planning."
No I don't "see".
Please tell me how anyone can plan for a 10yr drought that's said to be the worst in 600yrs.
Please tell me which state was slow to introduce water restrictions.
Please tell me why Tassie imports electricity from the mainland when it spent most of the 90's building dams to export hydro power.
Melbourne is chock full of household water tanks, private bores, grey water systems, people who take a bucket into the shower to reuse on their plants, ect. The reason you can use your sprinklers is that WA has largely escaped the drought and Perth was the first Aussie city that was forced to build a massive desal plant to feed said sprinklers. You may not have noticed but evey other state capital is also in the process of building similar desal plants.
If you are suggesting that Victoria should dam the Mitchell river then you have spent too much time reading Murdoch's rags. If you are suggesting the Murray-Darling basin that crosses 3 states has been mismanaged for decades then I agree. But that's an agricultural land use problem that has nothing to do with metropolitan water supplies.
BTW: My parents have an acre of beautifull unwatered native garden in the Dandenong's and it's been that way since I was a teenager in the 70's helping dear old dad spread six inches of sawdust over the entire property. My brother has 5 acres of wholesale nursery in the Dandenongs with a 5 megaliter dam on it. My own backyard is full of sand and sparse weeds because it's 100meters from the beach, but since it's an investment and will have a couple of townhouses on it next year I would have to be an idiot to do any landacaping now.
The ABC/SBS is set up like the BBC but we got rid of the licenses in the 70's. The money now comes from general taxation. Most Aussies will know the expression "My 8 cents worth". It refers to a 1990's promotion the ABC ran informing taxpayers what the ABC was costing them per day. Taking inflation into account it's probably double that now. Even if you don't personally watch it, it's still a far better investment than any of Murdoch's daily rags.
When Murdoch says shit, politicians jump on the shovel. Here is a recent example of how this arsehole does bussiness.
The meat from the (non-Murdoch) link...
"Last week Mr Smith [shadow communications minister] gave qualified support to the hand-out, saying the opposition acknowledged financial support for the networks was warranted during the transition to digital television. But on Tuesday, after the meeting with Mr Murdoch, Mr Abbott [opposition leader] blasted the hand-out as ''dodgy'' and an election-year bribe to free-to-air networks."
Between my OP above and this post I watched the Larry Flint doco The right to be left alone on ABC. This is the second time in the last few years I have seen the doco on state sponsred TV, it's an excellent doco that no commercial station here would play because of the way Flynt highlights their bullshit. To quote Flynt - "I watch the mainstream news to see what they leave out....The problem with the MSM is it's corporate...The models they put in front of the camera have to tow the corporate line".
Murdoch has also been making a lot of noise about the Australian broacasting commission's (ABC) "stealing" his audience. The state sponsered TV channels in Oz are the only one's left with any real journalists, this prick won't be satisfied until he removes every last skeric of independence.
The idea is to plant drought resistant plants in the woodchips. They are definitely NOT a fire hazard, in fact they are just the opposite they prevent weeds and hold in moisture. Here in Australia the various authorities actually encourage the practice and levy hefty fines if you are caught watering your lawn from the mains when water restrictions are in force.
No, technically they are different otherwise they wouldn't be a derivation they would be a copy. Sure, at a high enough level of abstraction an ICBM and a spear may be considered the same idea but I've yet to see a javelin thrower launch a spear into LEO.
"If someone wants to spread terror and sponsor/support the killing of innocent civilians I have no problem whatsover with them being "taken out". They gave up their right to life the moment they started killing people who are doing nothing but going about their lives."
In that case you should have no problems if someone takes out most of the Israeli government.
I know that Arnie was in a few hit science fiction movies but that hardly makes him a scientist. Your posts consistently talk about politics, politics is the anti-thesis of science. Also note that the quote from Arnie comes 10yrs after Singer instigated the stupid meme in a somewhat successfull attempt to descredit real scientists.
"We should also note that making a pseudo-sphere diameter smaller doesn't shorten the daylight/obscurity period on the said sphere. Even if Earth went to half its current diameter, days should remain the same length unless we change the rotation speed as they suggest in TFA."
Shrinking the sphere and keeping the mass the same will increase the rotation speed. This is why the nutron star left behind after a supernova spins so fast. It's also the reason an ice skater spins faster when they draw in their arms. - Please hand in your geek card on your way out.;)
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"Low but alarming concentrations over a substantial area of ocean are completely useless as an energy source"
But can singe your eyebrows.
Perhaps it was, as someone else has suggested the whole thing mearly put him back to where he had started. It's been a long time since I watched the movie and there are a million different ways to interpret Kubrick (which is why I like his stuff).
"I suppose it's "profound," in the sense that its message seems to be that the horrible (but independent-minded) Alex is actually better than the hypocritical government and other people who tried to use his plight for political ends"
That's what I got out of it, although for me the ending speech puts Alex in the position of a government manafactured Frakenstien. I saw the whole thing as a warning that said a society that aims to rid itself of violence through "phycological eugenics" will ultimately destroy itself. I'm not sure how old you are but there was a general fear in the late 60's - early 70's of government mandated "Skinner boxes" for humans. The ending of the book sounds more like a real world senario. Damm you, I will have to go and read it now....
"Mind you, in the book Alex basically just grows up and gets over it."
:P
In that case I think the movie is far more profound.
"And as for the helpful translation, below: Wow, you are one insightful dude. And here I thought he might have a cut throat banana peel."
Thanks. Keep reading books it will help you with your comprehension.
"Britva" means "razor".
It was a sin because in the end it didn't ruin Beethoven for him it had the opposite effect and made violence a thing of beauty for him.
ALEX's voice over at the end of the movie - "And what do you know, my brothers and only friends, it was the 9th, the glorious 9th of Ludwig van. Oh, it was gorgeosity and yummy yum yum. I was cured. As the music came to its climax, I could viddy myself very clear, running and running on like very light and mysterious feet, carving the whole face of the creeching world with my cut throat britva. I was cured all right."
You are aware that A Clockwork Orange was fiction, aren't you? It was a movie and not a documentary.
Yes, but it was based on the real life documentry Transistorized Carrot
Can it watch my kids while I'm at work?
No, that's what the TV is for. OTOH what do I know, I thought the whole point of a robotic vacum cleaner was to spend less time with your vacum cleaner.
So go and flip the cops, you won't get sympathy from me unless they actually do something illeagal.
"Some (one?) states, you see, have had intelligent water restrictions for many years and have enough water because of smart planning."
No I don't "see".
Please tell me how anyone can plan for a 10yr drought that's said to be the worst in 600yrs.
Please tell me which state was slow to introduce water restrictions.
Please tell me why Tassie imports electricity from the mainland when it spent most of the 90's building dams to export hydro power.
Melbourne is chock full of household water tanks, private bores, grey water systems, people who take a bucket into the shower to reuse on their plants, ect. The reason you can use your sprinklers is that WA has largely escaped the drought and Perth was the first Aussie city that was forced to build a massive desal plant to feed said sprinklers. You may not have noticed but evey other state capital is also in the process of building similar desal plants.
If you are suggesting that Victoria should dam the Mitchell river then you have spent too much time reading Murdoch's rags. If you are suggesting the Murray-Darling basin that crosses 3 states has been mismanaged for decades then I agree. But that's an agricultural land use problem that has nothing to do with metropolitan water supplies.
BTW: My parents have an acre of beautifull unwatered native garden in the Dandenong's and it's been that way since I was a teenager in the 70's helping dear old dad spread six inches of sawdust over the entire property. My brother has 5 acres of wholesale nursery in the Dandenongs with a 5 megaliter dam on it. My own backyard is full of sand and sparse weeds because it's 100meters from the beach, but since it's an investment and will have a couple of townhouses on it next year I would have to be an idiot to do any landacaping now.
The ABC/SBS is set up like the BBC but we got rid of the licenses in the 70's. The money now comes from general taxation. Most Aussies will know the expression "My 8 cents worth". It refers to a 1990's promotion the ABC ran informing taxpayers what the ABC was costing them per day. Taking inflation into account it's probably double that now. Even if you don't personally watch it, it's still a far better investment than any of Murdoch's daily rags.
When Murdoch says shit, politicians jump on the shovel. Here is a recent example of how this arsehole does bussiness.
The meat from the (non-Murdoch) link...
"Last week Mr Smith [shadow communications minister] gave qualified support to the hand-out, saying the opposition acknowledged financial support for the networks was warranted during the transition to digital television. But on Tuesday, after the meeting with Mr Murdoch, Mr Abbott [opposition leader] blasted the hand-out as ''dodgy'' and an election-year bribe to free-to-air networks."
Between my OP above and this post I watched the Larry Flint doco The right to be left alone on ABC. This is the second time in the last few years I have seen the doco on state sponsred TV, it's an excellent doco that no commercial station here would play because of the way Flynt highlights their bullshit. To quote Flynt - "I watch the mainstream news to see what they leave out....The problem with the MSM is it's corporate...The models they put in front of the camera have to tow the corporate line".
Murdoch has also been making a lot of noise about the Australian broacasting commission's (ABC) "stealing" his audience. The state sponsered TV channels in Oz are the only one's left with any real journalists, this prick won't be satisfied until he removes every last skeric of independence.
The cops didn't break any laws they just figured one good harrasment deserves another. Crying about it is just a case of the pot meeting the kettle.
lol, I bagged half a dozen with that one. :)
The idea is to plant drought resistant plants in the woodchips. They are definitely NOT a fire hazard, in fact they are just the opposite they prevent weeds and hold in moisture. Here in Australia the various authorities actually encourage the practice and levy hefty fines if you are caught watering your lawn from the mains when water restrictions are in force.
Wow, that's a mighty clean brain you have, who does your laundry?
Touche!
"technically they are the same."
No, technically they are different otherwise they wouldn't be a derivation they would be a copy. Sure, at a high enough level of abstraction an ICBM and a spear may be considered the same idea but I've yet to see a javelin thrower launch a spear into LEO.
"If someone wants to spread terror and sponsor/support the killing of innocent civilians I have no problem whatsover with them being "taken out". They gave up their right to life the moment they started killing people who are doing nothing but going about their lives."
In that case you should have no problems if someone takes out most of the Israeli government.
"Hu, that's pretty interesting but what's a nutron star again?"
Irresistible bait for spelling Nazi's.
I know that Arnie was in a few hit science fiction movies but that hardly makes him a scientist. Your posts consistently talk about politics, politics is the anti-thesis of science. Also note that the quote from Arnie comes 10yrs after Singer instigated the stupid meme in a somewhat successfull attempt to descredit real scientists.
I'm sure the heartland institute will come up with something for you.
"We should also note that making a pseudo-sphere diameter smaller doesn't shorten the daylight/obscurity period on the said sphere. Even if Earth went to half its current diameter, days should remain the same length unless we change the rotation speed as they suggest in TFA."
;)
Shrinking the sphere and keeping the mass the same will increase the rotation speed. This is why the nutron star left behind after a supernova spins so fast. It's also the reason an ice skater spins faster when they draw in their arms. - Please hand in your geek card on your way out.
"flipping off the cops is an indication of gross stupidity"
;)
Exactly, baiting the cops and then complianing about being picked on is like a teasing a bear and complaining about having your arms ripped off.
BTW: I'm fat, lazy, and a little senile but all that occured after my kids started reproducing.