A poor box is not a court cost, it goes to charity. Like everything else that involves money, there is the opportunity for corruption but usually the money involved is "small change".
"Unfortunately most of the people in your group do the exact same thing and try to impose your values and beliefs on the Republicans. Gay marriage, abortion, freedom to practice religion, etc. Two sides of the same coin."
Ummm, no. You don't have to marry a gay, nor are you forced to have an abortion, and you can certainly reject your freedom of religion by allowing your parents to pick it for you. This is not to say Democrats don't impose their "values", eg: both support "the war on drugs", preventing and allowing are not "two sides of the same coin".
This is not to say the "coin" doesn't exist, in general, the conservatives desire to control "personal freedoms" (eg: sex, religion, social welfare), and the liberals desire to control "social freedoms" (eg: gun control, business, corporate welfare). In most developed counties universal health cover is supported by anyone who has a chance of being elected, the US is a glaring and expensive exception.
I have to say not much of your post makes sense to me. Untill the age of 30 I was dirt poor with young kids and simple labouring skills. I dragged myself out if it with the aid of Australian welfare for "mature age" study. For the past 15yrs my pay pack has been ~50% above the national average, I willingly pay back through tax and charity much more than I ever took.
People tend to vote on their accumulated predjudices, if a particular welfare program has helped others, like it did me, then people will vote for it. That is why once a country has had universal health cover for a few years, no politician can remove it and still remain in power.
You have summed up my thoughts very nicely, they bought it just when things were starting to go a bit wobbly, a smart investor will "buy trouble" if he knows he can deal with it. It would have been a wasted opportunity watching youtube wither to save a few bucks. I belive Google has the experience, muscle and a long term plan to tip the copyright regime in the consumer's favour, it will gobble up and almagamate good/popular content along the way.
The only downside to Google is it's wedded to and limited by the internet.
Newtonian Zen: Does it exist if it cannot be observed?
TFA: If you go to youtube, give the cassini (and other space exploration) videos a go and rate them, it will encourage them (and others) to put up more.
I'm glad someone mentioned this, I wonder if titanium oxide is the "secret ingredient"? Titanium oxide surfaces that "eat grime" have been touted since the 90's but cost too much for wide adoption. Unless you intend to walk or drive on it, why pay 30% more for the "special" concrete when you can simply paint it with a titanum oxide based paint?
Today's victims, the lame excuse and the predictable response. Collective punishment is an abhorent war crime, it does not matter if the punishment was delivered via suicide belts or hellfire missles. No single group started this conflict but at this moment in time Israel has by far the best opportunity to stop it, they have chosen to escalate it instead.
Our system is very close to that of the UK, Australia does not generally vote on "issues", we employ politicians to do that. If the politicians don't have the power then they can call for a referendum (eg: We had a referendum that rejected the idea of becoming a Republic a few years ago).
"If you can't stomach any of the alternatives, what do you do then?"
Nothing, just deposit a blank ballot. You can assign prefferences OR you can vote for a single party, if the party is knocked out of the race and you didn't assign any second prference they are given to another party of the candidates choosing (this gives third parties a little more clout to negotiate policy initiatives with the big boys).
Thankfully our electoral commission understands elections to such a degree that they dissmissed paperless machines with an appropriate level of contempt. Probably the worst election rigging we have had in recent memory would be the "alleged" gerrymandering of Queensland state elections in the 80's.
TFA (that is customary not to read) may be short on substance but it can also be said "I can pull results out of my arse", science = observations + models, you cannot judge any result without access to the observations and a basic understanding of the model.
If you missed this story over the last month or so I can only assume you have been drinking for longer than just today. I'm a 47yo Aussie and this debate has been all over the news and talking head shows for quite a while. The official debate in the senate started a couple of days ago, last nights news reported the (non partisan) vote was due today, lateline (amongst others) did a special report on it. Also today, besides the horse race, our various governments decided to do fuck all about "the worst drought in 1000yrs" at their "national water crisis meeting".
"the plan is to insert human DNA into a rabbit's egg"
I insert two chicken eggs into my DNA for breakfast. As an Aussie I can however support the notion that Catalyst is a reputable and interesting science show.
Jews have lived in the area since the dead sea was sick, so what, you are blurring the issue. ie: The UN established a jewish state that did not exist before WW2. They (mainly UK) also cut cyprus in half in case you didn't notice, not to mention also dividing India when Ghandi kicked them out.
"As far as I know, isreal hasn't demanded the death of all Hezbollah members and the ultimate destruction of their organization."
I agree that If you want to spin something that happened a few months ago then I'm not interested. OTOH: if what I'm telling you is news then broaden your sources, the cold war is still alive and well in the Caspian sea area, study question: Why is the UNSC farcical?
"There are enablers on both sides of that issue. They usually have some part of history incorrect or have some other disposition against one side or the other."
Yep, there are bad guys everywhere and history is open to interpretation, how does that excuse the current palestinian "concentration camps" surrounded by those "staunch US allies" Israel, Jordan and Egypt?
"This is/. buddy, what you'll get is a bunch of reasons why its right or wrong from people that didn't read the article."
Yep, I skimed the article and found "the UN abolished the medieval warm period", if the submitter found the article "convincing" then it does not reflect well on his knowledge of the subject. My view is the guy has nothing new to add and is very pissed off about suggestions we should pay the full costs of an industrialised society.
Assuming the submitter really does want a detailed rebuttal on the climate (psudeo)science in the article he could try a seach for the word myth on
RealClimate. If it has not already been debunked in that list then the world renowned climatoligists from the site (many of whom he is attacking), may have a look at it for him.
Having said that I would be very surprised to see something new, similar articles have appeared since the Stern report, and (surprisingly?), have also been debunked by the "mainstream media". Now this may be coincidence but I do belive Rupert has gone pale green.
BTW: Apart from the Melbourne Cup, the headlines today in Australia are telling us about the "the worst drought in 1000yrs". My only advise is to invest in solid gold "bling" and hunker down for the population implosion that is coming our way (Exhibit A: the plethora of "surviour" type TV shows).
"...a mod who drives an SUV and sporting a twin GFX card monster PC muttering about how no commie liberal...
More likely he's the mod with 187 trillion AOL cd's, muttering about how NASA are going to launch them to build this thing. Seriously though, this has been on/. before, it's a crackpot idea stolen from a simpsons episode, nothing has changed 'cept it's a bit older and less funny the second time around.
Well, a Cuba under occupation where US snipers shoot children sitting in UN schools may be a comprable situation.
The UN "gave" Israel to Jewish refugees from WW2 and entrenched the religion in it's constituion thereby excluding Muslims from the get-go. At the time, and to it's credit, the US objected to the idea of a Jewish state. However the US quickly warmed to the idea as the cold war heated up, Isreal and the US became best mates.
The hitch was the country they drew on the map and called Israel was already populated and called "palestine", if any "genocide" occured the Jews were not the victims ( hint: how many Bedouin do you see wandering around nowadays? ). Anyway, a few wars later the palestinians are now literally fenced into a poofteenth of the land their grandfathers populated.
As I'm-a-dinner-jacket's rhetoric goes: The problem was created by Europe so why not solve the "ME problem" by shifting Israel back to Europe (say Ireland, just to stir things up a bit).
"Forcing them to concede that "Israel has a right to exist" would mean a symbolic end to the violence from that group and likely ensure peace in the area."
The people in the world's largest "concentration camp" would rather not be shot at while the politicians work out the "symbolisim".
As for Hezbollah, they are polling above 80% across all political/religious divides including the Maronite Christians, the nutcase leading them is now seen as a fucking hero by Muslims across the entire ME and as far away as Indonesia, before July they only had that sort of popularity in their strongholds.
Ironically, the reason Hezbollah is now "untouchable" in Lebannon can clearly be traced to Isreal's horrific attempt to physically deny Hezbollah's "right to exist" back in July.
You have misinterpreted me, I said the trial was a farce, I didn't say it wasn't fair. Similar trials have been held in the past with the same cage-match theater with various groups demanding various conditions (Re: Italian Mafia trials). I don't belive anyone has the right to impose a death penalty but I do belive justice has been served, may he rot in hell.
Yep, Australia has a similar leagal history for the mail, treason was the most serious charge for intefering with it. When I went for my drivers license (late 70's), the postal service were the only people legally permitted to speed, a phone call from Australia to the UK cost roughly one adult-hours-pay per minute. Everything changed when the telegram died.
I completely agree with everything you say but how long would the Iraq government last without an approving "nod" from the US/UK? You only have to look at how palestinians have been treated since they dared to elect Hamas in a free and fair election. The extreme levels of hypocricy from the west is why many people belive the US has it's hand up the arse of the Iraq government.
I'm not sure when the next election is due in Lebannon but if Hezbollah runs they will win by a landslide, we will then have yet another state who will be continually punished until they "recognise Isreal's right to exist" (whatever that euphemisim means?).
Yes it has been a farce but there was more than one trial. One of the trials was specifically to address genocide against the Kurds, it included eye witnesses accounts from the gas attack as primary evidence.
OTOH: A "fair trial" for attrocities against Iranians during the Iran/Iraq war would raise some akward questions for the west, particularly the US, UK & France.
Forgive me for picking on your post, there were dozens of others. I wanted to make a point and you just happened to be on top of what was then a couple of pages of jokes.
I agree global population is the root cause of the 2k fish buffer problem (and many other "show stoppers"). We either reverse the "add-on" bloat very soon or Earth's O/S will core dump the resource hog, maybe even self-boot with a clean image.
To paraphrase Seinfeld: "These surveys are making me grumpy".
I remeber a young guy who drove too fast, we all told him repeatedly he would crash and hurt someone but he just shrugged it off and tried in vain to crack jokes about it. He worked with us for six months, even though he had his seat belt on the force of the impact threw him out of the drivers window, his father who had also lectured him recognised the car as he drove past the smash on the way home from work. The kid didn't die but he spent a year in hospital and AFAIK still requires full time care, nobody needed or wanted to say "I told you so".
TFA: They didn't pick the number, it is simply the point where the trend line cuts the X-axis, also it wasn't really the aim of the study to come up with a number it was simply a by-product of their survey. The study took current trends in fish catches and found we will run out of commercial fish stocks IF we continue our current fishing practices. In other words: Behaviour has both predicatble and unpredictable consequenses, think about them before shrugging the warning off as a computer glitch.
Disclaimer: I appreciate humour as much as the next bloke but I find it hard to laugh at the "soylent oceanographic servey".
Good grief, I expected to get modded to troll hell not an aknowledgement (albiet from an AC). You guys really need an independent "weight's and measures" department for elections, the "public service" (hah!) can make sure grocer scales, petrol pumps, ATM, and even money itself are all trustworthy but "somehow" can't do that for elections, get the fuck outta here, you guys have got to be kidding?
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A poor box is not a court cost, it goes to charity. Like everything else that involves money, there is the opportunity for corruption but usually the money involved is "small change".
"Unfortunately most of the people in your group do the exact same thing and try to impose your values and beliefs on the Republicans. Gay marriage, abortion, freedom to practice religion, etc. Two sides of the same coin."
Ummm, no. You don't have to marry a gay, nor are you forced to have an abortion, and you can certainly reject your freedom of religion by allowing your parents to pick it for you. This is not to say Democrats don't impose their "values", eg: both support "the war on drugs", preventing and allowing are not "two sides of the same coin".
This is not to say the "coin" doesn't exist, in general, the conservatives desire to control "personal freedoms" (eg: sex, religion, social welfare), and the liberals desire to control "social freedoms" (eg: gun control, business, corporate welfare). In most developed counties universal health cover is supported by anyone who has a chance of being elected, the US is a glaring and expensive exception.
I have to say not much of your post makes sense to me. Untill the age of 30 I was dirt poor with young kids and simple labouring skills. I dragged myself out if it with the aid of Australian welfare for "mature age" study. For the past 15yrs my pay pack has been ~50% above the national average, I willingly pay back through tax and charity much more than I ever took.
People tend to vote on their accumulated predjudices, if a particular welfare program has helped others, like it did me, then people will vote for it. That is why once a country has had universal health cover for a few years, no politician can remove it and still remain in power.
You have summed up my thoughts very nicely, they bought it just when things were starting to go a bit wobbly, a smart investor will "buy trouble" if he knows he can deal with it. It would have been a wasted opportunity watching youtube wither to save a few bucks. I belive Google has the experience, muscle and a long term plan to tip the copyright regime in the consumer's favour, it will gobble up and almagamate good/popular content along the way.
The only downside to Google is it's wedded to and limited by the internet.
Newtonian Zen: Does it exist if it cannot be observed?
TFA: If you go to youtube, give the cassini (and other space exploration) videos a go and rate them, it will encourage them (and others) to put up more.
I'm glad someone mentioned this, I wonder if titanium oxide is the "secret ingredient"? Titanium oxide surfaces that "eat grime" have been touted since the 90's but cost too much for wide adoption. Unless you intend to walk or drive on it, why pay 30% more for the "special" concrete when you can simply paint it with a titanum oxide based paint?
If you want both justice and a deterent, how about $1/track to the RIAA and $749/track to the court "poor box" (if you have them in the states?).
I could have some sympathy for your argument if she were uploading but how is 1000X the damages reasonable for a download?
RTFA Disclaimer: I only read the summary, it states: "wholesale price of the downloads"
Today's victims, the lame excuse and the predictable response. Collective punishment is an abhorent war crime, it does not matter if the punishment was delivered via suicide belts or hellfire missles. No single group started this conflict but at this moment in time Israel has by far the best opportunity to stop it, they have chosen to escalate it instead.
Our system is very close to that of the UK, Australia does not generally vote on "issues", we employ politicians to do that. If the politicians don't have the power then they can call for a referendum (eg: We had a referendum that rejected the idea of becoming a Republic a few years ago).
"If you can't stomach any of the alternatives, what do you do then?"
Nothing, just deposit a blank ballot. You can assign prefferences OR you can vote for a single party, if the party is knocked out of the race and you didn't assign any second prference they are given to another party of the candidates choosing (this gives third parties a little more clout to negotiate policy initiatives with the big boys).
Thankfully our electoral commission understands elections to such a degree that they dissmissed paperless machines with an appropriate level of contempt. Probably the worst election rigging we have had in recent memory would be the "alleged" gerrymandering of Queensland state elections in the 80's.
TFA (that is customary not to read) may be short on substance but it can also be said "I can pull results out of my arse", science = observations + models, you cannot judge any result without access to the observations and a basic understanding of the model.
Actually it was 99%, he was planning to do better next time.
If you missed this story over the last month or so I can only assume you have been drinking for longer than just today. I'm a 47yo Aussie and this debate has been all over the news and talking head shows for quite a while. The official debate in the senate started a couple of days ago, last nights news reported the (non partisan) vote was due today, lateline (amongst others) did a special report on it. Also today, besides the horse race, our various governments decided to do fuck all about "the worst drought in 1000yrs" at their "national water crisis meeting".
"the plan is to insert human DNA into a rabbit's egg"
I insert two chicken eggs into my DNA for breakfast. As an Aussie I can however support the notion that Catalyst is a reputable and interesting science show.
Jews have lived in the area since the dead sea was sick, so what, you are blurring the issue. ie: The UN established a jewish state that did not exist before WW2. They (mainly UK) also cut cyprus in half in case you didn't notice, not to mention also dividing India when Ghandi kicked them out.
"As far as I know, isreal hasn't demanded the death of all Hezbollah members and the ultimate destruction of their organization."
That's odd considering Olmert was claiming that "Hezbollah has been destroyed" not so long ago?
I agree that If you want to spin something that happened a few months ago then I'm not interested. OTOH: if what I'm telling you is news then broaden your sources, the cold war is still alive and well in the Caspian sea area, study question: Why is the UNSC farcical?
"There are enablers on both sides of that issue. They usually have some part of history incorrect or have some other disposition against one side or the other."
Yep, there are bad guys everywhere and history is open to interpretation, how does that excuse the current palestinian "concentration camps" surrounded by those "staunch US allies" Israel, Jordan and Egypt?
"This is /. buddy, what you'll get is a bunch of reasons why its right or wrong from people that didn't read the article."
Yep, I skimed the article and found "the UN abolished the medieval warm period", if the submitter found the article "convincing" then it does not reflect well on his knowledge of the subject. My view is the guy has nothing new to add and is very pissed off about suggestions we should pay the full costs of an industrialised society.
Assuming the submitter really does want a detailed rebuttal on the climate (psudeo)science in the article he could try a seach for the word myth on RealClimate. If it has not already been debunked in that list then the world renowned climatoligists from the site (many of whom he is attacking), may have a look at it for him.
Having said that I would be very surprised to see something new, similar articles have appeared since the Stern report, and (surprisingly?), have also been debunked by the "mainstream media". Now this may be coincidence but I do belive Rupert has gone pale green.
BTW: Apart from the Melbourne Cup, the headlines today in Australia are telling us about the "the worst drought in 1000yrs". My only advise is to invest in solid gold "bling" and hunker down for the population implosion that is coming our way (Exhibit A: the plethora of "surviour" type TV shows).
"...a mod who drives an SUV and sporting a twin GFX card monster PC muttering about how no commie liberal...
/. before, it's a crackpot idea stolen from a simpsons episode, nothing has changed 'cept it's a bit older and less funny the second time around.
More likely he's the mod with 187 trillion AOL cd's, muttering about how NASA are going to launch them to build this thing. Seriously though, this has been on
"The comparison might be more similar to Cuba"
Well, a Cuba under occupation where US snipers shoot children sitting in UN schools may be a comprable situation.
The UN "gave" Israel to Jewish refugees from WW2 and entrenched the religion in it's constituion thereby excluding Muslims from the get-go. At the time, and to it's credit, the US objected to the idea of a Jewish state. However the US quickly warmed to the idea as the cold war heated up, Isreal and the US became best mates.
The hitch was the country they drew on the map and called Israel was already populated and called "palestine", if any "genocide" occured the Jews were not the victims ( hint: how many Bedouin do you see wandering around nowadays? ). Anyway, a few wars later the palestinians are now literally fenced into a poofteenth of the land their grandfathers populated.
As I'm-a-dinner-jacket's rhetoric goes: The problem was created by Europe so why not solve the "ME problem" by shifting Israel back to Europe (say Ireland, just to stir things up a bit).
"Forcing them to concede that "Israel has a right to exist" would mean a symbolic end to the violence from that group and likely ensure peace in the area."
The people in the world's largest "concentration camp" would rather not be shot at while the politicians work out the "symbolisim".
As for Hezbollah, they are polling above 80% across all political/religious divides including the Maronite Christians, the nutcase leading them is now seen as a fucking hero by Muslims across the entire ME and as far away as Indonesia, before July they only had that sort of popularity in their strongholds.
Ironically, the reason Hezbollah is now "untouchable" in Lebannon can clearly be traced to Isreal's horrific attempt to physically deny Hezbollah's "right to exist" back in July.
You have misinterpreted me, I said the trial was a farce, I didn't say it wasn't fair. Similar trials have been held in the past with the same cage-match theater with various groups demanding various conditions (Re: Italian Mafia trials). I don't belive anyone has the right to impose a death penalty but I do belive justice has been served, may he rot in hell.
Yep, Australia has a similar leagal history for the mail, treason was the most serious charge for intefering with it. When I went for my drivers license (late 70's), the postal service were the only people legally permitted to speed, a phone call from Australia to the UK cost roughly one adult-hours-pay per minute. Everything changed when the telegram died.
I completely agree with everything you say but how long would the Iraq government last without an approving "nod" from the US/UK? You only have to look at how palestinians have been treated since they dared to elect Hamas in a free and fair election. The extreme levels of hypocricy from the west is why many people belive the US has it's hand up the arse of the Iraq government.
I'm not sure when the next election is due in Lebannon but if Hezbollah runs they will win by a landslide, we will then have yet another state who will be continually punished until they "recognise Isreal's right to exist" (whatever that euphemisim means?).
Whatever you may think about Hamas, the fact remains that they kept their end of the bargain
Yes it has been a farce but there was more than one trial. One of the trials was specifically to address genocide against the Kurds, it included eye witnesses accounts from the gas attack as primary evidence.
OTOH: A "fair trial" for attrocities against Iranians during the Iran/Iraq war would raise some akward questions for the west, particularly the US, UK & France.
Forgive me for picking on your post, there were dozens of others. I wanted to make a point and you just happened to be on top of what was then a couple of pages of jokes.
I agree global population is the root cause of the 2k fish buffer problem (and many other "show stoppers"). We either reverse the "add-on" bloat very soon or Earth's O/S will core dump the resource hog, maybe even self-boot with a clean image.
To paraphrase Seinfeld: "These surveys are making me grumpy".
I remeber a young guy who drove too fast, we all told him repeatedly he would crash and hurt someone but he just shrugged it off and tried in vain to crack jokes about it. He worked with us for six months, even though he had his seat belt on the force of the impact threw him out of the drivers window, his father who had also lectured him recognised the car as he drove past the smash on the way home from work. The kid didn't die but he spent a year in hospital and AFAIK still requires full time care, nobody needed or wanted to say "I told you so".
TFA: They didn't pick the number, it is simply the point where the trend line cuts the X-axis, also it wasn't really the aim of the study to come up with a number it was simply a by-product of their survey. The study took current trends in fish catches and found we will run out of commercial fish stocks IF we continue our current fishing practices. In other words: Behaviour has both predicatble and unpredictable consequenses, think about them before shrugging the warning off as a computer glitch.
Disclaimer: I appreciate humour as much as the next bloke but I find it hard to laugh at the "soylent oceanographic servey".
Good grief, I expected to get modded to troll hell not an aknowledgement (albiet from an AC). You guys really need an independent "weight's and measures" department for elections, the "public service" (hah!) can make sure grocer scales, petrol pumps, ATM, and even money itself are all trustworthy but "somehow" can't do that for elections, get the fuck outta here, you guys have got to be kidding?