The IPCCreport is published roughly every four years.
From your post it is obvious you have not seen the horse let alone have any evidence as to it's state of health. The credibility problems do not belong to the IPCC, you may find it surprising that a large proportion of the the reaserch in the reports has come from the cream of US institutions. Read or even just skim the reports, find out who wrote them, find out why they are so confident and compare their previous predictions to the actual outcomes. Don't just spam people with "junk science" propagnda, it makes you look nieve.
Thanks for the link but I already knew about the MET conference. I don't know where you got your information about the "presence of a large number of falsifiable hypotheses" at the MET confrence. Can you provide a link that gives a concrete example or perhaps one that points out the "serious proplems" with the 1991 IPCC report.
BTW, due to past experience I consider links that simply parrot the FUD from
Fred
Singer
and/or
ExxonMobil as SPAM and will ignore them. Here are a few
mythbustinglinks from
Real Climate
to get you started.
Yep, that's what I meant by "childish propaganda". The real pussies are the PHB's who turn to fairytales because they can't look you in the eye and tell you the work has dried up.
"We are expecting very annoying data logging problems at 2AM BST/3AM GMT as Windoze automatically switches timezone. Which is why I'm recommending we use a Linux laptop which has been forced to GMT hardware clock."
Are you sure that is your only option?
Is there a ghost of a chance that your recommendation will acted apon?
"GMT was a bit to Ye-Olde-British-Empire for most people."
The "G" in GMT stands for Greenwich, a town in England that houses the royal observatory. The French disputed the position of the GMT line for a couple of hundred years. They said it was ~1km to the left, they even went to the trouble of marking it on the countryside with a line of poles. Given the history of the two countries it's remarkable they settled the matter without going to war.
I know Mach2 was just a guess but it is also a snails pace for space flight. The escape velocity for Earth is ~40,000km/h, so the spacecraft will need to travel at least that fast to ever get to Mars (might be easier from the moon, thus all the talk about a moon base). So probably Mach33-34 is a better estimate.
"...wouldn't planning for one of these time-frames be a good idea"
Yes, but alas someone has beaten you to it. Earth has already sent quite a few unmanned craft to Mars, all of them have taken advantage of the Mars fly-by to minimise travel time. This is what they mean when they talk about a "launch window". Using the orbits and gravity of planets and moons to get around the solar system is well understood. Have a look at the intricate looping and twisting paths of the cassini or voyager missions for an example of elegance and precision.
I have not read TFA but being a closet space geek I find the summary confusing. Mars and Earth pass each other every 2-3yrs. Mars has a more eliptical orbit than Earth. Just draw an elipse with a circle inside of it and you can see that sometimes they will pass where the two orbits are closer together and other times where they are further apart.
In 2003 the two planets passed each other at a point where the orbits are very close together, you have to go back 60,000 yrs to find another example of such a close fly-by. In 2005 the fly-by is the closest it has been since, well....2003, it wont get as close as the 2005 fly-by for another 13yrs, so what?
Sorry, it's a term used by software developers, where I work at the moment it stands for Linux, Solaris, Aix & HPUX. We write our C code so that it runs on both *nix and Windows.
A language tool should help you write in that language regardless of the target platform, if you knew what you were doing with VS you would realize it excellent productivity tool.
Are you sure you know what "Unix" is?
Does anybody? I learnt C 17yrs ago on a flavour of Unix called System V.
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My advice to you is go and "dig ditches" for ten years so you can get some perspective into your life.
During the late 90's (2000?) I worked for a very large, very blue IT corporation who were busy gobbling up the Australian market from the top down. They rounded everyone up into confrence rooms and paid us (contractors included) to watch a video version of "who stole my cheese". I didn't know wether to be insulted or amused. I took the cheque and figured it was just another "Through the looking glass" moment from the HR department in order to qualify for a tax break. I trully didn't think anyone could possibly swallow what to me was the most childish propaganda I had seen since the "just say no" campaing.
But alas I was wrong, within a week the book started appearing on the desks of the office arse-lickers who then passed it on to the people who slept curled up like rats all day, a few months later the NYT declared it the years #1 selling bussiness book!!!
"If I recall correctly, the year with the record for hurricanes before 2005 happened before weather sats existed, so there were almost certainly storms that were not counted "
The Atlantic has been a busy place for over 100yrs, I don't think the weather geeks missed too many big storms in the last century just because they didn't have satellites.
The GW aspect is not about the frequency of storms but rather the total amount of energy they contain, although given enough energy more storms could be expected to reach hurricane status. There is no hard evidence that the frequency is trending upwards (the frequency increase over the last few years is on too short a time scale to be significant). However there is good evidence that the total energy over the last 30 yrs has steadily increased but as far as I know the jury is still diliberating.
If you look back over the last 30yrs or so at reports such as from the IPCC and many other credible publications before it, you will find a plethora of predictions. Many of these predictions have already been verified by observation, unfortunately they have occured much sooner than the scientific establishment thought they would.
As an example, 10yrs ago the GHG feedback loop from melting permafrost was thought to be at least 50yrs away (if it happened at all). Recently one of those weather satelites observed this process over Siberria. A higher frequency of extreme weather has also been a long standing prediction, but you are technically correct, just because it waddles and quacks doesn't mean they are right.
The US has contributed as much to climate research as all the other countries combined. The rest of the planet appreciates this incredible scientific effort but cannot understand why the US continues to insist their emporer is not stark naked.
As for TFA, magnets will not stop a hurricane, cure arthritis or sterilize your water but they can be used to scan for brains.
England is where the modern idea of a constitutional democracy took root with the signing of the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magna_carta. Interestingly, the English parliment was formed by a group of wealthy Barrons who forced the king to divest some of his power because he was screwing up their bussiness interests (seems aggressive lobbying is nothing new).
The parent post is however correct, the Greeks invented the basic "seperation of powers" concept, every other democracy since that time has simply tinkered with the details.
The word "instant" was not intended to mean nanoseconds, every firefighter knows how hard it is to extinguish magnesium and you definitely don't throw water on it. I once had a car that would "pop" along for 20-30 seconds when you turned off the key and it was really anoying. The difference with the magnesium is that you have to seperate it from steam and oxygen to stop it burning that then stops it producing H2 to run the car. The H2 itself can be stopped from entering the motor "instantly".
Interesting, pilots turn off the plane the same way I turn off the lawn mower.
"My politics are extremely opposed to others trying to "engineer" my life."
That is an oxymoron, politics by definition is medling with other peoples lives. You may not be consious of it but your life has already been engineered towards consumerisim, capitalism and several other major -ism's.
"That's your problem right there...You want to engineer behavior."
The parent never said they wanted to engineer the price of gas. If you actually took the time to investigate, you would find out US oil prices are engineered to be cheap. A large part of the US military budget is devoted to ensuring the continuos flow of oil, now I am being political!
IIRC, in commonwealth countries you cannot use the word "Royal" in your company name unless your company has actually had royal patronage. The Onion would do well to respond by promptly exchanging the eagle for a suitably comedic turkey and declare no contest.
"Sounds like there's still an obstacle or three in the way..."
3. How do they propose to instantly extinguish the burning (oxidizing) magnesium when the driver turns the car off?
Article Summary: The SUMMARY should simply use quotes or paraphrase statements that SUMMARISE TFA. Offering an outlandish opinion that gets instantly shot to pieces by experts just makes the front page of slashdot look uneducated and niave.
These type of psudeo-scientific articles belong on slashdot so geeks can pull them to bits, perhaps every comment on a science article could also require the postee to rate TFA as either "snake oil", "science" or "I ate my crayon".
"there is no benefit to the company for employees having "green" cars."
Society benifits so the company does too, however the benifit is not cash so it doesn't make their bottom line look good.
"it might be possible if enough of the shareholders lean one way or another politically,"
Pepole from all across the political spectrum are "green", but somehow in the USA it is a "Liberal" idea.
But I think you are right, I doubt it will take off and TFA is probably just a gimmick to advertise motorbikes.
I don't think anyone has a problem with a reasonable license fee or drug companies making a profit. There is nothing reasonable about Roche's behaviour in any of this.
Roche is one of the most profitable companies in Europe, very few drugs cost $1B to develop into nothing. Drug companies are like everyone else, they will not throw good money after bad but they will bargain for a lower price if there is no other choice.
That is because real-estate is, well... bricks and mortar, you get "market value" for your house so you can buy another house, ideally you don't loose or gain. The expense is "one house".
"The problem with patent-law violation reasoning is that it seems to be without regard to the future."
An African peasant with AIDS has no future. Leaglized extortion is not the answer, if it were there would be no problems accessing drugs today.
"It only requires a few billion USD to develop drug lines"
A very large percentage of which is spent on epidemiologial studies to gain FDA approval. What if any drug manafacturer could license from the FDA for a predictable and fair fee. In return the company or companies that provided the research could claim a percentage of all fees collected. Medicine could then become a commodity whereby competing manafacturers will keep each others profits reasonable, the goverment can still enforce quality, drugs are as cheap as practicable, research is encouraged, greed takes a back seat.
While on the subject of FDA approval (the defacto international standard), why is it a yes/no proposition. Couldn't promising drugs be gradually introduced with levels of certainty and control rather than waiting in the isle for 5yrs until all the evidence is in. I can understand waiting 5yrs for a new type of antibiotic or headache pill when there are already good ones available, people facing more serious "orphan" conditions need to be given an opportunity to weigh their own risks.
That doesn't mean they have a right to profit, it's only to claim out of pocket expenses. In this case since it is virtual property that has already paid for it's own research, it has only cost the company potential profit. They should have sold the license for a reasonable amount but they refused, now they get nothing.
It's about time more goverments took this bargaining approach to make drugs available to those who need them and to stomp on those who see $$$ signs in other peoples misery. Sure we need profitable drug companies, it's not cheap to get a new drug to market. However in return for expenditure by the drug companies, taxpayers contribute serious money to police the quality (and patents) of the drugs.
Everyone is a victim of a disease at one time or another and lack of sanitation and quality medicines will turn a "simple" illness into a death sentence. In the interests of public health, governments should have an obligation to demand reasonable contributions from patients, taxpayers and drug companies. If patent law gets in the way, change it.
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The IPCC report is published roughly every four years.
From your post it is obvious you have not seen the horse let alone have any evidence as to it's state of health. The credibility problems do not belong to the IPCC, you may find it surprising that a large proportion of the the reaserch in the reports has come from the cream of US institutions. Read or even just skim the reports, find out who wrote them, find out why they are so confident and compare their previous predictions to the actual outcomes. Don't just spam people with "junk science" propagnda, it makes you look nieve.
Thanks for the link but I already knew about the MET conference. I don't know where you got your information about the "presence of a large number of falsifiable hypotheses" at the MET confrence. Can you provide a link that gives a concrete example or perhaps one that points out the "serious proplems" with the 1991 IPCC report.
BTW, due to past experience I consider links that simply parrot the FUD from Fred Singer and/or ExxonMobil as SPAM and will ignore them. Here are a few myth busting links from Real Climate to get you started.
Yep, that's what I meant by "childish propaganda". The real pussies are the PHB's who turn to fairytales because they can't look you in the eye and tell you the work has dried up.
"We are expecting very annoying data logging problems at 2AM BST/3AM GMT as Windoze automatically switches timezone. Which is why I'm recommending we use a Linux laptop which has been forced to GMT hardware clock."
Are you sure that is your only option?
Is there a ghost of a chance that your recommendation will acted apon?
Boom-Boom! Thankyou, I'll be here all night.
"GMT was a bit to Ye-Olde-British-Empire for most people."
The "G" in GMT stands for Greenwich, a town in England that houses the royal observatory. The French disputed the position of the GMT line for a couple of hundred years. They said it was ~1km to the left, they even went to the trouble of marking it on the countryside with a line of poles. Given the history of the two countries it's remarkable they settled the matter without going to war.
I know Mach2 was just a guess but it is also a snails pace for space flight. The escape velocity for Earth is ~40,000km/h, so the spacecraft will need to travel at least that fast to ever get to Mars (might be easier from the moon, thus all the talk about a moon base). So probably Mach33-34 is a better estimate.
"...wouldn't planning for one of these time-frames be a good idea"
Yes, but alas someone has beaten you to it. Earth has already sent quite a few unmanned craft to Mars, all of them have taken advantage of the Mars fly-by to minimise travel time. This is what they mean when they talk about a "launch window". Using the orbits and gravity of planets and moons to get around the solar system is well understood. Have a look at the intricate looping and twisting paths of the cassini or voyager missions for an example of elegance and precision.
I have not read TFA but being a closet space geek I find the summary confusing. Mars and Earth pass each other every 2-3yrs. Mars has a more eliptical orbit than Earth. Just draw an elipse with a circle inside of it and you can see that sometimes they will pass where the two orbits are closer together and other times where they are further apart.
In 2003 the two planets passed each other at a point where the orbits are very close together, you have to go back 60,000 yrs to find another example of such a close fly-by. In 2005 the fly-by is the closest it has been since, well....2003, it wont get as close as the 2005 fly-by for another 13yrs, so what?
I have never heard of "*nix".
Sorry, it's a term used by software developers, where I work at the moment it stands for Linux, Solaris, Aix & HPUX. We write our C code so that it runs on both *nix and Windows.
A language tool should help you write in that language regardless of the target platform, if you knew what you were doing with VS you would realize it excellent productivity tool.
Are you sure you know what "Unix" is?
Does anybody? I learnt C 17yrs ago on a flavour of Unix called System V.
My advice to you is go and "dig ditches" for ten years so you can get some perspective into your life.
During the late 90's (2000?) I worked for a very large, very blue IT corporation who were busy gobbling up the Australian market from the top down. They rounded everyone up into confrence rooms and paid us (contractors included) to watch a video version of "who stole my cheese". I didn't know wether to be insulted or amused. I took the cheque and figured it was just another "Through the looking glass" moment from the HR department in order to qualify for a tax break. I trully didn't think anyone could possibly swallow what to me was the most childish propaganda I had seen since the "just say no" campaing.
But alas I was wrong, within a week the book started appearing on the desks of the office arse-lickers who then passed it on to the people who slept curled up like rats all day, a few months later the NYT declared it the years #1 selling bussiness book!!!
"The incompetence of CS teachers lately has surprised me"
As they say, "...those who can't, teach.". There is no more reason to include the project files than there is to include the makefile for *nix.
"There's a reason we start with printf("Hello World."); and not with dragging a text box into a big white rectangle."
So tell me, what stops you from writing a traditional "Hello World" in VS?
Burning magnesium is a class D type fire, the more water you apply the more violently it will burn.
Go and read a book.
"If I recall correctly, the year with the record for hurricanes before 2005 happened before weather sats existed, so there were almost certainly storms that were not counted "
The Atlantic has been a busy place for over 100yrs, I don't think the weather geeks missed too many big storms in the last century just because they didn't have satellites.
The GW aspect is not about the frequency of storms but rather the total amount of energy they contain, although given enough energy more storms could be expected to reach hurricane status. There is no hard evidence that the frequency is trending upwards (the frequency increase over the last few years is on too short a time scale to be significant). However there is good evidence that the total energy over the last 30 yrs has steadily increased but as far as I know the jury is still diliberating.
If you look back over the last 30yrs or so at reports such as from the IPCC and many other credible publications before it, you will find a plethora of predictions. Many of these predictions have already been verified by observation, unfortunately they have occured much sooner than the scientific establishment thought they would.
As an example, 10yrs ago the GHG feedback loop from melting permafrost was thought to be at least 50yrs away (if it happened at all). Recently one of those weather satelites observed this process over Siberria. A higher frequency of extreme weather has also been a long standing prediction, but you are technically correct, just because it waddles and quacks doesn't mean they are right.
The US has contributed as much to climate research as all the other countries combined. The rest of the planet appreciates this incredible scientific effort but cannot understand why the US continues to insist their emporer is not stark naked.
As for TFA, magnets will not stop a hurricane, cure arthritis or sterilize your water but they can be used to scan for brains.
England is where the modern idea of a constitutional democracy took root with the signing of the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magna_carta. Interestingly, the English parliment was formed by a group of wealthy Barrons who forced the king to divest some of his power because he was screwing up their bussiness interests (seems aggressive lobbying is nothing new).
The parent post is however correct, the Greeks invented the basic "seperation of powers" concept, every other democracy since that time has simply tinkered with the details.
The word "instant" was not intended to mean nanoseconds, every firefighter knows how hard it is to extinguish magnesium and you definitely don't throw water on it. I once had a car that would "pop" along for 20-30 seconds when you turned off the key and it was really anoying. The difference with the magnesium is that you have to seperate it from steam and oxygen to stop it burning that then stops it producing H2 to run the car. The H2 itself can be stopped from entering the motor "instantly".
Interesting, pilots turn off the plane the same way I turn off the lawn mower.
"My politics are extremely opposed to others trying to "engineer" my life."
That is an oxymoron, politics by definition is medling with other peoples lives. You may not be consious of it but your life has already been engineered towards consumerisim, capitalism and several other major -ism's.
"That's your problem right there...You want to engineer behavior."
The parent never said they wanted to engineer the price of gas. If you actually took the time to investigate, you would find out US oil prices are engineered to be cheap. A large part of the US military budget is devoted to ensuring the continuos flow of oil, now I am being political!
IIRC, in commonwealth countries you cannot use the word "Royal" in your company name unless your company has actually had royal patronage. The Onion would do well to respond by promptly exchanging the eagle for a suitably comedic turkey and declare no contest.
"Sounds like there's still an obstacle or three in the way..."
3. How do they propose to instantly extinguish the burning (oxidizing) magnesium when the driver turns the car off?
Article Summary: The SUMMARY should simply use quotes or paraphrase statements that SUMMARISE TFA. Offering an outlandish opinion that gets instantly shot to pieces by experts just makes the front page of slashdot look uneducated and niave.
These type of psudeo-scientific articles belong on slashdot so geeks can pull them to bits, perhaps every comment on a science article could also require the postee to rate TFA as either "snake oil", "science" or "I ate my crayon".
IIRC, the ones after iron eventually decay back into iron (or elements before iron).
"there is no benefit to the company for employees having "green" cars."
Society benifits so the company does too, however the benifit is not cash so it doesn't make their bottom line look good.
"it might be possible if enough of the shareholders lean one way or another politically," Pepole from all across the political spectrum are "green", but somehow in the USA it is a "Liberal" idea.
But I think you are right, I doubt it will take off and TFA is probably just a gimmick to advertise motorbikes.
I don't think anyone has a problem with a reasonable license fee or drug companies making a profit. There is nothing reasonable about Roche's behaviour in any of this.
Roche is one of the most profitable companies in Europe, very few drugs cost $1B to develop into nothing. Drug companies are like everyone else, they will not throw good money after bad but they will bargain for a lower price if there is no other choice.
That is because real-estate is, well... bricks and mortar, you get "market value" for your house so you can buy another house, ideally you don't loose or gain. The expense is "one house".
"The problem with patent-law violation reasoning is that it seems to be without regard to the future."
An African peasant with AIDS has no future. Leaglized extortion is not the answer, if it were there would be no problems accessing drugs today.
"It only requires a few billion USD to develop drug lines"
A very large percentage of which is spent on epidemiologial studies to gain FDA approval. What if any drug manafacturer could license from the FDA for a predictable and fair fee. In return the company or companies that provided the research could claim a percentage of all fees collected. Medicine could then become a commodity whereby competing manafacturers will keep each others profits reasonable, the goverment can still enforce quality, drugs are as cheap as practicable, research is encouraged, greed takes a back seat.
While on the subject of FDA approval (the defacto international standard), why is it a yes/no proposition. Couldn't promising drugs be gradually introduced with levels of certainty and control rather than waiting in the isle for 5yrs until all the evidence is in. I can understand waiting 5yrs for a new type of antibiotic or headache pill when there are already good ones available, people facing more serious "orphan" conditions need to be given an opportunity to weigh their own risks.
"just compensation"
That doesn't mean they have a right to profit, it's only to claim out of pocket expenses. In this case since it is virtual property that has already paid for it's own research, it has only cost the company potential profit. They should have sold the license for a reasonable amount but they refused, now they get nothing.
It's about time more goverments took this bargaining approach to make drugs available to those who need them and to stomp on those who see $$$ signs in other peoples misery. Sure we need profitable drug companies, it's not cheap to get a new drug to market. However in return for expenditure by the drug companies, taxpayers contribute serious money to police the quality (and patents) of the drugs.
Everyone is a victim of a disease at one time or another and lack of sanitation and quality medicines will turn a "simple" illness into a death sentence. In the interests of public health, governments should have an obligation to demand reasonable contributions from patients, taxpayers and drug companies. If patent law gets in the way, change it.