It's not a technical must in that nothing will explode should routable IP space be used... but by only using 10.x.x.x IP space, a user could be connected to this network and the wide open Internet at the same time and have no address conflicts be possible.
WiFi can travel pretty far when done properly... which would involve an omnidirectional transmitter/antenna setup mounted high and broadcasting at the max power allowed by FCC rules. Most consumer devices are designed to only transmit at 1/10th the FCC limit out of the box, so anybody rigging such a setup should look for more professional-grade equipment.
Besides, in a rather densly populated city, you could hit several large appartment structures within the range.
I'm not quite sure how the limited-by-proximity access to a network is going to make it "safe" in terms of being spam/scam/scum feee. It'll limit the spammers/scammers/scummers to being those from the local area, but that still doesn't make it a kid-safe zone.
I think that's the point of this project. To create an interesting oracle of information that is only available within the range of a WiFi signal... no connection to the outside world in or out available.
Be interesting to see if he can pull it off and get enough content and user interactivity to make it work...
The tech side to this is relatively simple. What you're going to want to do is to basically create your own IP-based network that isn't the Internet... that means your WiFi should have a DHCP server that hands out 10.x.x.x (unroutable) addresses to anybody who wants to get one to get them on board...
Once there, your DNS universe is gonna be a bit funny. You should map all.com,.net,.org and for that matter any "real" web request to a "Hello World!" webserver that explains that your WiFi link isn't offering a connection to the Internet, instead it's a one-of-a-kind location that's offering...
From there, you just assign your own server names to whatever have to offer, and serve it using standard Internet technologies for web content.
I think your problem is that you're not searching on the right term on Google. What you want to do is called an "intranet"... and it's really nothing more than setting up Internet-designed IP-based stuff and forgetting to add the link to the outside world.
Now, how you're gonna promote such a thing... well, that's up to you.
In a related story, the IRS has recently ruled that the cost of Windows upgrades can NOT be deducted as a gambling loss.
Gambling losses aren't really tax deductible anyway. The only time they even impact your taxes is in the event that you have large gambling winnings (to the point that the casino or track had to file a form W-2G about your big wins...) AND you're not taking the standard deduction. At that point, you can report losses as offseting factors to counterbalance your reported winnings, but only to the point that they bring you back to even.
Really, it's not that you get to deduct your losses so much as you get to show them to prove that despite forms saying you won a lot, you didn't really win that much because you had to play so many times to get to that payout.
Imagine a world where PHBs can turn their office wall into a window onto any cube.
Just takes a camera kit from that site with all the pop-up ads and an off-the-shelf LCD mounted on the wall...
The show is also available live Weekends at 3pm ET / Noon PT at KFI 640's website and of course over the air in the LA area. The downloadable version usually appears 2-3 days later depending on Leo's personal schedule, but when it does all newsbreaks, commericals, and traffic updates are removed.
The abundant Wi-Fi saturation in the area is actually causing interference between access points. The over-propagation in the area is incredible.
WiFi's collision domain is with anything else that's transmitting on the same frequencies within the 2.4gHz/5.8gHz bands. It's not just your subnet anymore, it's everybody transmitting there.
Just like how these new "Turbo WiFi" devices are suggesting using the entire 2.4gHz range instead of just 1/3 of it like the proper channel-based protcol suggests, it's a tragedy of the commons waiting to happen. When too many people are using WiFi, it'll become unusable for everybody.
Oversaturation is a big issue. WiFi shouldn't be painting a whole city in places where it wasn't asked for.
There is a business model available in somebody creating a pay-for-access server full of OSS software... the feature being that you don't have to fight the rest of the world to get what you want when you want it.
For that matter, ISPs should see value in mirroring major OSS distros on servers within their network... let customers use local bandwidth without having to the real "Internet" backbones, and that saves money for the ISP in the long run.
For those who do operate home mail servers, why can't such people just configure their outgoing SMTP server to pass all outgoing mail through the ISP's SMTP server to get around such blocks, and therefore have a more "trustwrothy" and less likely to be blocked IP address in the headers?
But the Comcast execs would then realize that the unblocking process costs money in terms of staff time and phone expenses for the support call... and just axe that "feature".
The answer to that is simple... it would be done by somebody who wants to destroy the integrity of the multiplayer environment, basically to deny the fun to all of the legit players by making it impossible for them to get anything done.
It's the same reason why kids bully others in school... just to have the fun of making somebody else miserable.
The current business model is that when the first game for the new game engine comes out, the mod tools to go with that engine ship as part of the game package. Anybody who has bought the game can create new levels or whole new game concepts.
Once you have a good mod thrown together, you can release it however you want... but in order for your mod content to be playable your users are going to need a licensed copy of the game engine and that for the most part will mean purchasing the original game.
If mods are really good, they can enter the retail channel by striking a deal with the original game writers. At that point, the original game content is replaced with the mods and sent into retail stores as its own box. Profit for all involved.
It'd be nice if there was an OSS gaming engine of record to make the commercial game engines obsolete, but let's face it... those things are not easy to come up with. Furthermore, I'm not sure a "fair" multiplayer environment can ever be done with open source code... what would there to be to block people who have hacked the engine code to give them an autopilot shooter?
Try doing that when there's somebody else downloading something big on your network and tell us how that works...
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Furthermore, there's no possible way to order all of the other devices that are causing conflicts on 802.11x to shut up... there's no promise that the interfering device is even part of your network! In fact, there's no promise that the competiting device is even a WiFi device.
IP is nothiing but extra overhead that really isn't needed over a "last inch" network hop.
VoIP over WiFi isn't dead... it's aborted before it's even born.
There is no point. There's enough room on the 900mHz and 5.8gHz bands for classic circuit-switched wireless phones to work. If you want better sound quality, you can go digital over that link... but there's no reason to bring along all of the overhead of UDP/IP and WiFi on the exchange. It's better to use a much simpler system of ones and zeros with a basic bit-flipping encryption key.
There's just no benefit to VoIP over WiFi when instead of going over the WiFi bridge you could use a standard consumer 900mHz phone instead.
If you tweak the QOS etc settings and don't just throw things together haphazardly, then it works beautifully. Personally, I just wire VOIP to a cordless phone, then let the phone handle the wireless part. Enough of the ____ is dead articles.
WiFi is always haphazard compared to wired. You never know if a packet's going to make it safely or crash into something else in 2.4gHz land.
Phone calls work better when circuit switched... we only do VoIP because packet-based is less wasteful.
As a subscriber, I've seen red-barred stories have clear mistakes in them, that end up getting repaired before the story goes live and becomes visible to normal users. I've also seen some outright bad stories go up for subscribers and then get pulled from the queue never to be seen again.
Overall, I'd say that they're at least looking at the DaddyPants e-mail account... but a complaint should have a hyperlink citation backing up what you claim if you want any hope of them taking action.
Then again, we've been talking about this problem for a year and a half, yet there still are people stupid enough to be selling HDs with readable data that should be kept secret on them without doing DOD-level formatting.
Howard Stern was only thrown off the air in a small number of cities to begin with. Clear Channel took him off of every station that they own... but the station that produces his show and a majority of the stations that air it are owned by Viacom. Not one Viacom station has touched the show at all.
Then who would enforce things when somebody without a license is noticed to be broadcasting when they don't have a license to do so, whether they're doing it on purpose or not? You really think the local police forces would have the equipment or knowledge to take care of such situations?
Powell cannot be blamed for the consolidation of radio broadcasters. He didn't set that into motion... in fact, you can't even blame the Bush administration.
The last major change to the ownership limits happened in the Telecommunications Act of 1996. Clinton was the president then.
And that'd mean that the RF spectrum would run just about as smoothly as the Internet is runing now...
We'd have a whole lot less Spam and viruses if the IANA or somebody could simply revoke the IP address allocations of those who misbehaved on the Internet. Lets face it, right now those who annoy over the Internet can be taken to court, but that's not effective at shutting down the annoyances. Having an enforcer with the ability to silence those who bother others sometimes does come in handy.
As much as the government has loosened the ownership caps over recent years, they still exist and companies like ClearChannel and Viacom own just about as many stations as they're allowed to own in certain areas.
If those ownership caps were to no longer exist, we'd likely see the marketplace force us down to just one major media company... and I don't think we want that.
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It's not a technical must in that nothing will explode should routable IP space be used... but by only using 10.x.x.x IP space, a user could be connected to this network and the wide open Internet at the same time and have no address conflicts be possible.
WiFi can travel pretty far when done properly... which would involve an omnidirectional transmitter/antenna setup mounted high and broadcasting at the max power allowed by FCC rules. Most consumer devices are designed to only transmit at 1/10th the FCC limit out of the box, so anybody rigging such a setup should look for more professional-grade equipment.
Besides, in a rather densly populated city, you could hit several large appartment structures within the range.
I'm not quite sure how the limited-by-proximity access to a network is going to make it "safe" in terms of being spam/scam/scum feee. It'll limit the spammers/scammers/scummers to being those from the local area, but that still doesn't make it a kid-safe zone.
I think that's the point of this project. To create an interesting oracle of information that is only available within the range of a WiFi signal... no connection to the outside world in or out available.
Be interesting to see if he can pull it off and get enough content and user interactivity to make it work...
The tech side to this is relatively simple. What you're going to want to do is to basically create your own IP-based network that isn't the Internet... that means your WiFi should have a DHCP server that hands out 10.x.x.x (unroutable) addresses to anybody who wants to get one to get them on board...
.com, .net, .org and for that matter any "real" web request to a "Hello World!" webserver that explains that your WiFi link isn't offering a connection to the Internet, instead it's a one-of-a-kind location that's offering...
Once there, your DNS universe is gonna be a bit funny. You should map all
From there, you just assign your own server names to whatever have to offer, and serve it using standard Internet technologies for web content.
I think your problem is that you're not searching on the right term on Google. What you want to do is called an "intranet"... and it's really nothing more than setting up Internet-designed IP-based stuff and forgetting to add the link to the outside world.
Now, how you're gonna promote such a thing... well, that's up to you.
In a related story, the IRS has recently ruled that the cost of Windows upgrades can NOT be deducted as a gambling loss.
Gambling losses aren't really tax deductible anyway. The only time they even impact your taxes is in the event that you have large gambling winnings (to the point that the casino or track had to file a form W-2G about your big wins...) AND you're not taking the standard deduction. At that point, you can report losses as offseting factors to counterbalance your reported winnings, but only to the point that they bring you back to even.
Really, it's not that you get to deduct your losses so much as you get to show them to prove that despite forms saying you won a lot, you didn't really win that much because you had to play so many times to get to that payout.
Imagine a world where PHBs can turn their office wall into a window onto any cube. Just takes a camera kit from that site with all the pop-up ads and an off-the-shelf LCD mounted on the wall...
The show is also available live Weekends at 3pm ET / Noon PT at KFI 640's website and of course over the air in the LA area. The downloadable version usually appears 2-3 days later depending on Leo's personal schedule, but when it does all newsbreaks, commericals, and traffic updates are removed.
The abundant Wi-Fi saturation in the area is actually causing interference between access points. The over-propagation in the area is incredible.
WiFi's collision domain is with anything else that's transmitting on the same frequencies within the 2.4gHz/5.8gHz bands. It's not just your subnet anymore, it's everybody transmitting there.
Just like how these new "Turbo WiFi" devices are suggesting using the entire 2.4gHz range instead of just 1/3 of it like the proper channel-based protcol suggests, it's a tragedy of the commons waiting to happen. When too many people are using WiFi, it'll become unusable for everybody.
Oversaturation is a big issue. WiFi shouldn't be painting a whole city in places where it wasn't asked for.
There is a business model available in somebody creating a pay-for-access server full of OSS software... the feature being that you don't have to fight the rest of the world to get what you want when you want it.
For that matter, ISPs should see value in mirroring major OSS distros on servers within their network... let customers use local bandwidth without having to the real "Internet" backbones, and that saves money for the ISP in the long run.
For those who do operate home mail servers, why can't such people just configure their outgoing SMTP server to pass all outgoing mail through the ISP's SMTP server to get around such blocks, and therefore have a more "trustwrothy" and less likely to be blocked IP address in the headers?
But the Comcast execs would then realize that the unblocking process costs money in terms of staff time and phone expenses for the support call... and just axe that "feature".
The answer to that is simple... it would be done by somebody who wants to destroy the integrity of the multiplayer environment, basically to deny the fun to all of the legit players by making it impossible for them to get anything done.
It's the same reason why kids bully others in school... just to have the fun of making somebody else miserable.
The current business model is that when the first game for the new game engine comes out, the mod tools to go with that engine ship as part of the game package. Anybody who has bought the game can create new levels or whole new game concepts.
Once you have a good mod thrown together, you can release it however you want... but in order for your mod content to be playable your users are going to need a licensed copy of the game engine and that for the most part will mean purchasing the original game.
If mods are really good, they can enter the retail channel by striking a deal with the original game writers. At that point, the original game content is replaced with the mods and sent into retail stores as its own box. Profit for all involved.
It'd be nice if there was an OSS gaming engine of record to make the commercial game engines obsolete, but let's face it... those things are not easy to come up with. Furthermore, I'm not sure a "fair" multiplayer environment can ever be done with open source code... what would there to be to block people who have hacked the engine code to give them an autopilot shooter?
Try doing that when there's somebody else downloading something big on your network and tell us how that works...
Furthermore, there's no possible way to order all of the other devices that are causing conflicts on 802.11x to shut up... there's no promise that the interfering device is even part of your network! In fact, there's no promise that the competiting device is even a WiFi device.
IP is nothiing but extra overhead that really isn't needed over a "last inch" network hop.
VoIP over WiFi isn't dead... it's aborted before it's even born.
There is no point. There's enough room on the 900mHz and 5.8gHz bands for classic circuit-switched wireless phones to work. If you want better sound quality, you can go digital over that link... but there's no reason to bring along all of the overhead of UDP/IP and WiFi on the exchange. It's better to use a much simpler system of ones and zeros with a basic bit-flipping encryption key.
There's just no benefit to VoIP over WiFi when instead of going over the WiFi bridge you could use a standard consumer 900mHz phone instead.
If you tweak the QOS etc settings and don't just throw things together haphazardly, then it works beautifully. Personally, I just wire VOIP to a cordless phone, then let the phone handle the wireless part. Enough of the ____ is dead articles.
WiFi is always haphazard compared to wired. You never know if a packet's going to make it safely or crash into something else in 2.4gHz land.
Phone calls work better when circuit switched... we only do VoIP because packet-based is less wasteful.
As a subscriber, I've seen red-barred stories have clear mistakes in them, that end up getting repaired before the story goes live and becomes visible to normal users. I've also seen some outright bad stories go up for subscribers and then get pulled from the queue never to be seen again.
Overall, I'd say that they're at least looking at the DaddyPants e-mail account... but a complaint should have a hyperlink citation backing up what you claim if you want any hope of them taking action.
Stop, timothy... we've heard this joke before. In fact, you seem to post this same story every nine months or so.
Circa September 2003... nine months ago.
Circa January 2003... eighteen months ago.
Then again, we've been talking about this problem for a year and a half, yet there still are people stupid enough to be selling HDs with readable data that should be kept secret on them without doing DOD-level formatting.
Howard Stern was only thrown off the air in a small number of cities to begin with. Clear Channel took him off of every station that they own... but the station that produces his show and a majority of the stations that air it are owned by Viacom. Not one Viacom station has touched the show at all.
Then who would enforce things when somebody without a license is noticed to be broadcasting when they don't have a license to do so, whether they're doing it on purpose or not? You really think the local police forces would have the equipment or knowledge to take care of such situations?
Powell cannot be blamed for the consolidation of radio broadcasters. He didn't set that into motion... in fact, you can't even blame the Bush administration.
The last major change to the ownership limits happened in the Telecommunications Act of 1996. Clinton was the president then.
And that'd mean that the RF spectrum would run just about as smoothly as the Internet is runing now...
We'd have a whole lot less Spam and viruses if the IANA or somebody could simply revoke the IP address allocations of those who misbehaved on the Internet. Lets face it, right now those who annoy over the Internet can be taken to court, but that's not effective at shutting down the annoyances. Having an enforcer with the ability to silence those who bother others sometimes does come in handy.
Get rid of the FCC....?
Welcome our new master... Clearchannel...
As much as the government has loosened the ownership caps over recent years, they still exist and companies like ClearChannel and Viacom own just about as many stations as they're allowed to own in certain areas.
If those ownership caps were to no longer exist, we'd likely see the marketplace force us down to just one major media company... and I don't think we want that.